Micah T
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I’ve been scouring the inter-webs for 21 Tour x, to no avail. I’m a little sad that I won’t get to keep gaming these past this year.
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Interesting results in the ball lab for the tour X: I’m glad I have a few cubes of the 21’s left!
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Final Review is up! This test has been a blast!
- MDGolfHacker and Preeway
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Some pics of a ball used 4 straight rounds….
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So I was able to get some data on the 23 tour x head to head with the 21 tour x and the 21 provlx: these numbers are mine, and your experience may vary, but for me it shows that the new maxfli tour x is just as good as the 21 tour x, and for my money, as good as Titleist.
I hit about 10 shots from each distance with each ball, except for the Driver since I was pretty gassed by that point! I hit:
50 yard
100 yard
180 yard
230 yard
300 yard
I really don’t see a statistical difference between these balls: I’m sure if my sample size was larger the numbers would be even closer! Ball speed, launch and spin numbers were all in the ballpark of each other. And when you factor in the cost difference between a dozen maxfli(or who am I kidding, a cube) and a dozen Titleist, I don’t see a need to pay more. I have buddies that still razz me about playing an “inferior” golf ball; but the scorecard doesn’t have pictures, only strokes…
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Numbers coming soon!
- cjeffs12, cptnkirkdog, Rchang and 1 other
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I can’t do anything with a hybrid besides hook it. 5 wood recently kicked my 2 iron out of the bag, as the 2 iron was really a tee-shot only club for me. 5 wood is much more versatile for me.
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3 over today: only 7 Gir and 6 Fir but got up and down extremely well today. Also only 28 putts: funny how that works…
- MattF, Kenny B, RollingGreens and 6 others
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Played my first round with the ‘23 tour x today: I honestly can’t tell the difference between it and the ‘21 tour x. Same sound, feel, flight and spin. Still on the fence about which alignment aid I like more.
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Shake up at the top of the bag! New 3 wood and 5 wood! Cobra Aerojet LS replaces my Ping g410 LST, and the Aerojet 5 wood bumps my Titleist U-505 to the bench!
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What’s good, spy fam?!
I’m Micah, and I live in Salt Lake City, Utah. My wife and I live that D.I.N.K lifestyle(dual-income, no kids) which leaves plenty of time for golf. I picked up the game in 2016 after getting married, and was more or less instantly hooked. My wife realized pretty quickly if she was going to see me on weekends she better learn to play: and now that she’s also a golfer, I don’t have to come up with a good story every time a golf club shaped box shows up on the doorstep. Besides golf, I love to travel, cook, and snowboard, probably in that order. I’m a certified club-ho, exotic shaft snob, golf stat geek sort of golfer. Also a member of the push-cart mafia, but I’m not supposed to talk about that…
About my golf game:
I’m a high speed, high spin player who’s prone to hitting the occasional tee shot off the planet: as such, I’m definitely interested in saving money on golf balls. My progression thru golf balls was as follows:
Wilson 50/50
Chromesoft truvis(quickly switched after discovering MGS)
Snell Mtbx-x
Srixon z-star xv
Bridgestone tour BX
Titleist prov1x
Maxfli Tour X
I had resigned myself to paying $50 a dozen as I improved for premium balls: but it stung each time I sent my one thru the wardrobe into Narnia. Then I stumbled onto the maxfli tour x while at golf galaxy with my wife. “Don’t tell anyone how good that ball is, or the price will go up” said the associate who was letting my wife demo 3 woods. I thought, “how good could a $30 a box ball be?” As I tee’d up on my first hole with the tour x, I decided if it was as good as a q-star tour, I’d be satisfied with the purchase. Suffice it to say my expectations were blown away! I checked MGS to see if a ball lab had ever been done on this steal of a ball, and yep there was: 91 total score. There was already a thread up on the forum of course, you can check that out here:
I’ll be putting the new tour X thru it’s paces against the ‘21 tour X, as well as the Titleist prov1x, widely considered to be the benchmark in ball quality. And what good would having a stat geek be a part of this test if he wasn’t going to post GCquad numbers? So I’ll be doing just that, and we’ll all get to see if the ‘23 tour x measures up to, in my opinion, the greatest deal in golf: the ‘21 maxfli tour X. Stay tuned!
1st Impressions:
Getting product shipped from DSG/GG is hassle free: boxes are well packed and arrive in good condition. Maxfli definitely improved upon the previous iterations in terms of how premium the new box looks.
Sleek, all-black box definitely looks premium to me. But I never buy 1 or 2 dozen, and I’ll wager most here don’t either, so how do the cubes look? Just as sleek, IMO: here’s the new head to head with the old:
Some subtle changes with the statements/claims on each sleeve as well:
I’ve always appreciated the the frank nature of Maxfli’s claims: nothing too crazy there. Interesting to see Maxfli call out the CG balancing; definitely a premium feature there. The only huge change I see straightaway is the alignment aid:
I’m not sure how I feel about it yet: on the one hand, I loved using the alignment lines on the ‘21 model, on the other, the alignment aid kinda made it look like a range/practice ball. Time to get on course and see how this new Maxfli performs!
Final review
Aesthetics: 19/20
The ‘23 Tour X loses one point for the alignment aid: I’ve decided I don’t like the new one and I feel like they took a step back personally. I liked the double line and found it more helpful in lining the ball up on putts and tee shots. The packaging is premium and looks sleek.
The sound off the putter is clicky, but I’ve grown accustomed to that playing very firm balls. Might be a turn off for some, but it sounds/feels very much like a -prov1x on partial wedges and putts.
Durability: no issues here: the average ball lasts about 4 rounds(unless I send it to Narnia 1st) before being retired. As durable as a Titleist? No: but really I don’t think any other ball is as durable as a prov1 or prov1x. Well struck wedges will leave a scratch as well as most bunker shots. Most of us have seen the MGS report on scuffed balls, so I’m pretty quick to retire a ball. But at $2.50 a ball, you can afford too!
The numbers: 19/20
Ball flight characteristics
Spin - the 23 ball has less spin on short/green side shots for me.
I didn’t notice a difference 7 iron thru drive compared to the ‘21 tour X, but the loss of spin on partial shots for someone like me who basically has nothing but partial shots into greens is a potential issue. The ‘23 tour X spins significantly less than a prov1x - some will enjoy that off driver and woods and find it problematic when trying to hold a green with a 7 iron.
There are distance gains to be had off the tee with driver compared to the ‘21 tour X. On the GC Quad I don’t see a difference in distance, but on course, I’d say a prov1x is about 2-3 yards longer for me. Not enough to justify paying double!
Launch/flight- virtually identical to the ‘21 tour x, but significantly higher than a prov1x, most notably on wedges and driver. I tend to launch my drives too low, so now worries there, but some will not like their wedges in a slighter higher window…
On course testing: 20/20
The 23 tour x is long off the tee: some of my longest all time drives have been during testing!
The low spin characteristics of the ball off the driver are really impressive. The low spin characteristics of wedges? Maybe less so…
Love the feel off the face on all shots, sounds great to my ear. The ball does what I expect it to, and I can move it the direction I intend to.
The good and bad: 18/20
This ball is a fantastic value! For 1/2 the price of a prov1x you get a ball 98.5% as good. Sound/feel, looks and workability are all top notch for me. Where I deduct points is for a slightly higher launch and a significant reduction in spin. As I mentioned before, while I enjoy the higher launch off the driver, the higher launch off my wedges is alarming. The ‘21 tour x is the equal of the prov1x, but the ‘23 is a step behind. Is a step behind worth saving 50%?
Play it or trade it? 20/20
If I wasn’t very familiar with the ‘21 version, this ball would receive even higher marks: as it stands, it’s a remarkable ball for the price. Would I trade these in? Only for more of the ‘21 tour x! I will be on the lookout for any liquidation sales on the ‘21 tour x, but when those are gone, I’ll happily switch to the ‘23!
Conclusion:
For all those that feel like they “aren’t good enough to play a premium ball/ can’t feel the difference between urethane and ionomer covers / don’t know how to make their wedges spin, why not play this premium ball that cost what non premium balls cost? It’s literally the best of both worlds: a premium ball you can afford to lose!
Final score: 96/100
- cjeffs12, GolfSpy_APH, Shrek74 and 8 others
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4 over 75 and 2 over 74 for the weekend: hit a ridiculous(for me) 8/14 and 10/14 fairways. 12/18 Gir and 14/18 Gir. But 68 putts over 2 rounds is sending me straight to the putting green for some serious practice.
- ejgaudette, MattF, edingc and 3 others
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Congrats testers!!!! Can’t wait to hear about these…
- GolfSpy_KFT, JerryB, sirchunksalot and 2 others
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21 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:
What does everyone think about the PTC release?
I personally love it and it actually makes me want to game it, however I am also a lefty so no dice here.
Cobra traditionally does such a good job with their limited releases.
Love it! Prefer it to the regular version
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So, I talked a lot of smack about this driver when it was released. No milling, interesting, almost TM-like color ways, etc. I was way out of pocket talking about the Aerojet before hitting it. Like dead wrong. I cracked my LTDx LS, and my guy at club champion gave me a Aerojet LS head to use for the weekend(my company was having 1 of our 2 annual scrambles)The sound and feel are vastly superior to the LTDx. It wasn’t any longer, but it looks great in the playing position, and imo, just sounds amazing at impact. No need to run out and scoop one if you have the LTDx, but a fantastic club nonetheless.
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79 at Sand Hollow over my long weekend: could’ve been better, but I had a few 3 putts. Can’t beat the views tho…
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Testing product is cool, but what I enjoy most is the wealth of knowledge/experience on the forum.
- KC Golf, MattWillGolf, EasyPutter and 4 others
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15 hours ago, GolfSpy_BOS said:
Checkin time! I had a few minutes today on lunch and tossed my GW on the Planemate for a little partial swing checkup.
Who's still using planemate? Anyone give up or more on to something else? I need to review the protocols and see what I should be looking to do in the Spring as I haven't dug into some of the advanced protocols yet.
Gave up on mine: my instructor didn’t like how it encouraged an early wrist set for me, nor how vertical I got the shaft during takeaway. For me, it made me too concerned with what my arms where doing in the backswing.
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11 hours ago, chisag said:
... I hear ya and waiting a year or more makes perfect sense. At age 69 I am fighting a losing battle but fighting none the less and I only have so many "I'll buy next years model" left before my distance falls to where clubs/shafts won't make that much difference. So if something blows me away when released I will purchase it, but that very rarely happens.
Totally agree, I too can be swayed on occasion. Probably not on a driver(see previous post), but I did swoon for my i59’s. And I know plenty of people who balked at that price. But they came out when I was already looking, and once at the fitting, they didn’t deter me from pulling the trigger. Timing is everything, right?
3i -> 7W ??
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Welcome @nate.graham13!
I game:
4 wood (Cobra Aerojet 3 wood lofted up to 16degrees)
6 wood (Cobra Aerojet 5 wood lofted up to 19.5 degrees)
4 iron (ping i210 22.5 degrees)
But everyone’s swing/delivery is different! For some, this gapping would result in clubs that would all carry around the same distance - not ideal, but for me it works! Best to identify what you need the club to do(specific yardage, tee shot only etc) and try everything you can to fit the niche: happy tinkering!