NM01 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, cnosil said: Trying to do the slow work indoors; but personally I start to question or “fix” some of the movements. My mind is trying to correct the over the line at the top and it makes me swing flatter on the backswing….which I know is the wrong thing to do. In my mind this is one of the limitations of lessons (unless you have an unlimited plan for a period of time) I have a 2 minute question and want to validate something but I have to consume another lesson. Yes, there should be time to make sure things are done right but as you know we stray a little over time or without reinforcement. then we get into terminology, “dumping the right shoulder” doesn’t mean anything to me . Traditionally, I have been the step down, shallow late type of player. Remembering my numbers, I was probably a little too step of an AoA (6-7*) and when I got down to the 4* range I was getting better numbers across the board. i don’t work hard to close the face; if anything, my face is too closed. Prior to implementing the wrist hinge, I was about 3* in to out or less and the face would vary between a couple of degrees closed to a couple of degrees open. Yesterday, I was 2-6* closed. Feel free to post videos if your practice and I can help guide you. dumping the right shoulder means you add too much right bend or what some refer to as leaning away from the target cnosil and cksurfdude 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shaw Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, MarcB11 said: I practiced 1/4 & 1/2 swing drills. 100 on toe release and 100 on blocks. what does "toe release" mean Quote committed to performance excellence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew75 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Turning my hips left in the downswing while keeping right heel down in a fairly narrow stance. It shallows the downswing. Just keep your head steady. cksurfdude 1 Quote Settled clubs: Epon 50/8, 45/6, 40/5, 35/4, 30/4, 26/3 all with Zelos 8 stiff, 1/2 degree flat. Mizuno CLK Hybrid 20 degrees. Putter: 37" rife.h Hbore xl 2wood (the unicorn)--16 degrees, 420 cc? Not settled: 54/10 Vokey Not settle: 12 degree Mizuno stx 12* set to 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syks7 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 3 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: The one suggestion would be to look at getting the face to be facing a little more closed at shaft parallel in the downswing. Definitely on my list of things to work on. AMG has become one of my favorite resources for drills. sirchunksalot, cksurfdude and NM01 3 Quote Driver 0311 Gen 5 -- Ventus Velocore+ Blue Hybrids 0317X 2&3 -- Tensei CK Orange Irons ZX7 4/AW -- C-Taper Lite 110 Wedges RTX Zipcore 56/10º@55º 58º/10 C-Taper Lite 110 Putter Link.1 -- Accra Ball Zstar Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin1313 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 It's a balmy 26* here today, so my practicing has been relegated to swing practicing inside (club position/transition/body rotation........) it's supposed to get close to 45* tomorrow- so I'm gonna try and get out to work on my 30-50yd approach shots and maybe some chipping. Been doing a LOT of putting practice cksurfdude, Dweed and JerryB 3 Quote ALL Paradym 10.5*(11.5*) (Hzrdus Gen 4 Silver 60/KBS TD) Apex UW 17* (Tensei AV Blue 75) Apex Pro 21 Hybrid 20*/23* (KBS Hybrid) Paradym 6-PW (Nippon NS Pro Modus 3 Tour 105X) Jaws Raw Face Chrome 48* (Nippon NS Pro Modus 3 Tour 105X) Jaws Raw Chrome Full Toe 54*/ 58* (Nippon Pro Modus 125 Wedge) Jaws Full Toe Black Wedge 64* (DG Tour Issue Spinner 115) WHOG #5 Chrome Soft X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacTourney Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 3 hours ago, cnosil said: ...then we get into terminology, “dumping the right shoulder” doesn’t mean anything to me . Confusing terms do little in terms of helping others, especially being driven through different prisms of understanding and perspectives that folks have. One of my favorites to consider concerns direction. If at last parallel before the strike the shoulders point, which they should do, to the opposite side of an imaginary target line we are standing to the side of, the shoulders are considered 'closed', yet the corresponding club face orientation at that location with a toe up orientation is considered 'open', yet the face points to the same area as the shoulders do. It begs the question, why close a face that already is closed while in the toe up position....and it has really nothing to do with arc shapes or arc locations. Hmmm cksurfdude 1 Quote Good hand action comes from good body action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew75 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, MacTourney said: Confusing terms do little in terms of helping others, especially being driven through different prisms of understanding and perspectives that folks have. One of my favorites to consider concerns direction. If at last parallel before the strike the shoulders point, which they should do, to the opposite side of an imaginary target line we are standing to the side of, the shoulders are considered 'closed', yet the corresponding club face orientation at that location with a toe up orientation is considered 'open', yet the face points to the same area as the shoulders do. It begs the question, why close a face that already is closed while in the toe up position....and it has really nothing to do with arc shapes or arc locations. Hmmm I was taught "one is pretty much a captive to what has come before during the downswing" . I think this is largely true, and any consciousness of movements during that phase of the swing needs to be within the context of a completed swing or else it likely won't hold up or last. cksurfdude 1 Quote Settled clubs: Epon 50/8, 45/6, 40/5, 35/4, 30/4, 26/3 all with Zelos 8 stiff, 1/2 degree flat. Mizuno CLK Hybrid 20 degrees. Putter: 37" rife.h Hbore xl 2wood (the unicorn)--16 degrees, 420 cc? Not settled: 54/10 Vokey Not settle: 12 degree Mizuno stx 12* set to 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Andrew75 said: I was taught "one is pretty much a captive to what has come before during the downswing" . I think this is largely true, and any consciousness of movements during that phase of the swing needs to be within the context of a completed swing or else it likely won't hold up or last. Correct and really it’s any issue up until lead arm parallel. At this point timewise the swing is half over. From the top of the swing it’s roughly .25 seconds til impact and any correction one tries to make occurs after impact. So from lead arm parallel to impact any movement is a compensation for out of place clubface cksurfdude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew75 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Well, I'm a minimalist, my lead arm doesn't go past parallel to the ground except maybe on a hard hit driver or fairway. In fact that's one of my swing keys on drives, "left arm parallel to ground backswing is finished". cksurfdude 1 Quote Settled clubs: Epon 50/8, 45/6, 40/5, 35/4, 30/4, 26/3 all with Zelos 8 stiff, 1/2 degree flat. Mizuno CLK Hybrid 20 degrees. Putter: 37" rife.h Hbore xl 2wood (the unicorn)--16 degrees, 420 cc? Not settled: 54/10 Vokey Not settle: 12 degree Mizuno stx 12* set to 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacTourney Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Andrew75 said: I was taught "one is pretty much a captive to what has come before during the downswing" . I think this is largely true, and any consciousness of movements during that phase of the swing needs to be within the context of a completed swing or else it likely won't hold up or last. ...that's pretty much it, but there is some wiggle room after transition to 'square' an 'open' from last parallel to the strike but it's set up prior to transition so that transition becomes a launching point for a very deep drop down to that last parallel. Quote Good hand action comes from good body action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy SAM Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 After a disastrous front nine yesterday, followed by a +4 back nine (all four strokes on 10&11), I went back to the range today to see if I could recreate the good stuff I had over the final 7 holes. Wedges were excellent - especially the partials (70/80yd shots) - seem to have found a technique that's repeatable and effective, which is awesome. Driver, after forcing a few, fell into a good groove, and most irons were behaving. Overall, a super productive session. cksurfdude, sirchunksalot and JerryB 3 Quote Driver - Callaway Ai Smoke Max - 9* - Draw setting; Maltby UL (Otto Phlex) 5/7 Wood - Takomo Ignis Utility - Caley X01 Driving Iron (3 = 18*) (currently benched) Irons (5-PW) - Caley 01T Wedges (48, 52, 56, 60) - Indi Wedges FLX 48 / ATK 52, 56, 60 Putter - L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 - 65*/DF3 65* Ball - Chrome Tour Triple-Track Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanMI Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 I practiced turning up the thermostat in the barn a little higher today!! Single digits around here now. cksurfdude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegolfdean7 Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Not today, but at least every other day have been going to our local YMCA, they have a nice hitting area with 3 bays. I have been doing a drill to stop coming over the top, At 66 years I do about 100 per day, then practice my pitching with about 50, half at 7:30 other half 9:30 ( Dave Pelz ). Going to start working on chipping, at least the basic moves. Next 4 foot putts starting by the end of the month. Dean Miller cksurfdude and JerryB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweed Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Totally in the house doing practice swings without clubs. Too cold outside -5* and 10* in the barn. cksurfdude, JerryB and Merlin1313 3 Quote D- Ping G 400 SFT 16*- Adams Tight Lie 19*- Adams Tight Lie 4H- Ping G 400 5-U- Ping G 400 SW- Nike 56*- Ping Glide 2 P- Sub70 004 Mallet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I had lessons only twice with different PGA club pros. Instead of trying to work with what I have and just making small tweaks, both tried to completely change my swing. So that was that. I hardly use a driving range. But I play alone frequently, so when no one is behind me, that is when I practice-especially approach shots, as a weakness in my game is greens in regulation. And will take time to practice on greens out on the course. I usually have found that practice putting greens do not emulate green conditions on the course. I am now 80 years old and am a high 70 to low 80s shooter. . cksurfdude 1 Quote ff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I play almost every day I can during the season, and average over 200 rounds per year. At age 80, I have no illusions of getting much better than I already am. I feel that playing over 200 rounds per year gives me all the practice I need. JerryB and cksurfdude 2 Quote ff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlH Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Yesterday, I took my new putter to the practice green for about 15 minutes to work on distance control. I didn't care much about line but rather getting the ball to within tap in range. Afterwards, my wife and I were going to play about 3 holes (she's a newbie) but after our drives, she said it was too cold and didn't want to continue. Rickp, JerryB and cksurfdude 3 Quote Driver: Black Ops 12* with Cypher 50 5.0 Fairway: Black Ops 3 wood with Cypher 50 5.0 Hybrids: Black Ops 19* and 22* with Cypher 50 5.0 Irons: Gen6 6, 7, 8, 9, W, G with Cypher 50 5.0 Wedges: Sugar Daddy II 52* and 56* with Cypher 50 5.0 Putter: DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft @ 34" Ball: Tour, Chrome Tour, Pro V1 Other: C10 Bag, glove My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcB11 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 On 2/3/2023 at 7:40 AM, Jim Shaw said: what does "toe release" mean Rotation of the left forearm after impact. Jim Shaw 1 Quote Driver -Sim Max 9* Ventus Red S or Callaway Rogue ST Max Tensei Blue Raw 55S 3 Wood - TSI2 Kurogage S 3/4 Hybrid - Srixon ZX Irons - PXG 0311XP 5-6 -, PXG 0311P 7-GW MMT 80S Wedges - Haywood 48 bent to 50, 56 bent to 54, 60 bent to 58 KBS Tour 90 steel Putter - TM Spider Tour or Oddessy Big-T #5 (350g) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shaw Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, MarcB11 said: Rotation of the left forearm after impact. ahh, gotchya, to square up the club face at impact... Quote committed to performance excellence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew75 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 57 minutes ago, Jim Shaw said: ahh, gotchya, to square up the club face at impact... Interesting Quote Settled clubs: Epon 50/8, 45/6, 40/5, 35/4, 30/4, 26/3 all with Zelos 8 stiff, 1/2 degree flat. Mizuno CLK Hybrid 20 degrees. Putter: 37" rife.h Hbore xl 2wood (the unicorn)--16 degrees, 420 cc? Not settled: 54/10 Vokey Not settle: 12 degree Mizuno stx 12* set to 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang60 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Not practiced for a few days been digging behind a retaining wall that's leaning over a bit because the ground is half sand and I didn't set the posts correctly, I'm pleased with the work I've done and happy my body has stood up to it well, actually doing almost 3hours daily digging and spreading I'm hoping getting stronger digging will help my golf muscles. Should be back to golf mid next week if the weather finds some Sun... Syks7 and cksurfdude 2 Quote I’m a hacker who loves nothing more than to change how I play, be that grips shafts and heads its all fair game lol… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Finally got to the range to hit some golf balls. It was packed. All the indoor spots were taken along with the top tracer so it was just a visual practice which wasn't a bad thing. Swing felt pretty good I must admit. Only a couple awful shots, but it was cold. Maybe 35 F or so and it was a bit wet so the balls were going nowhere. Not the end of the world again haven't swung a bunch recently and it was more to get the body loose again. I will say I love the sub70 irons, but I may move on from them. They work great don't get me wrong, but something witha little more power and forgiveness may be in the works. I think I will go and look at some options this week and just see whats there. Ping i230 will be on the short list. I won't be selling the sub70's as I still really like them and maybe its that I keep a few of them in like the pw and aw and go 9-5 iron with something else. Not sure yet, but I am going to look at exploring some options for an iron that is a bit more on the forgiving side. edingc, ejgaudette, cksurfdude and 5 others 8 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy TCB Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said: Finally got to the range to hit some golf balls. It was packed. All the indoor spots were taken along with the top tracer so it was just a visual practice which wasn't a bad thing. Swing felt pretty good I must admit. Only a couple awful shots, but it was cold. Maybe 35 F or so and it was a bit wet so the balls were going nowhere. Not the end of the world again haven't swung a bunch recently and it was more to get the body loose again. I will say I love the sub70 irons, but I may move on from them. They work great don't get me wrong, but something witha little more power and forgiveness may be in the works. I think I will go and look at some options this week and just see whats there. Ping i230 will be on the short list. I won't be selling the sub70's as I still really like them and maybe its that I keep a few of them in like the pw and aw and go 9-5 iron with something else. Not sure yet, but I am going to look at exploring some options for an iron that is a bit more on the forgiving side. SO many good new options out there, I completely understand! I am planning a full multi club fitting process - probably March timeframe. I want to put my current Stealth irons up against Mizuno JPX923 (HMP and Forged), Callaway Paradym, Cobra King Tour, Srixon ZX MkII, not to mention a few DTC irons I've had my eye on.. I will be a busy spring. sirchunksalot, Vegan_Golfer_PNW, GolfSpy_APH and 2 others 5 Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Just now, Golfspy_TCB said: SO many good new options out there, I completely understand! I am planning a full multi club fitting process - probably March timeframe. I want to put my current Stealth irons up against Mizuno JPX923 (HMP and Forged), Callaway Paradym, Cobra King Tour, Srixon ZX MkII, not to mention a few DTC irons I've had my eye on.. I will be a busy spring. It is that or I may look at making the lofts a bit stronger. They spin plenty so maybe getting a bit of spin off would help? cksurfdude, sirchunksalot and GolfSpy TCB 3 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
202 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 I spent an hour with the wedges today. JerryB, GolfSpy_APH, Jim Shaw and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shaw Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 1 hour ago, 202 said: I spent an hour with the wedges today. good call, day off today for me, tomorrow, chip and putt again, hoping for a full swing session 4 weeks post surgery... cksurfdude, cnosil, chisag and 4 others 7 Quote committed to performance excellence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
202 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 good call, day off today for me, tomorrow, chip and putt again, hoping for a full swing session 4 weeks post surgery... Yes sir! Chipping and putting is where the money is at.No need to rush things. Wait until you are 100% before going for full swings. Jim Shaw and cksurfdude 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Shaw Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, 202 said: Yes sir! Chipping and putting is where the money is at. No need to rush things. Wait until you are 100% before going for full swings. thanks for that, I am impatient by trade...my wife is a recovery room nurse, so she is keeping, how do you say, a close eye on me lol cksurfdude and 202 2 Quote committed to performance excellence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Multi faceted range day today videoed my iron and driver for a lesson. Todays focus was Adam young impact drills with many rehearsals and then half swings. Worked up to full swings along with the arm dropping. Lead to straight to soft fade shots. Driver focused on turn and really had to think only take 25% swing, otherwise I was coming way across the line Chipping work was ok. Worked on different spots and distances with my 54. Holed a few putting work with the DF is coming along. Need more lag work but starting to get the feel down. Realized I used to compensate a lot reading putts. The lab hits my line and I can really see true break. I need to recalibrate. ejgaudette, 202, cksurfdude and 1 other 4 Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS TD Cat 4 60g 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S DI: Caley 01X 18* with PGH Stiff plus 95g 4-AW: 0211 with Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter:Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue Ball: Prime 4.0 Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize Glove: My Reviews: Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023 Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23) TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 28 minutes ago, Jim Shaw said: thanks for that, I am impatient by trade...my wife is a recovery room nurse, so she is keeping, how do you say, a close eye on me lol ... and if anyone has had surgery they know a real Saint when they see one. After my first devastating back surgery early in the morning my night nurse let me use a bedpan. But my afternoon nurse the next day, an older black lady said she ain't given' me no bedpan and If I want to get out tha hospital I best get up and start moving around. Not just the bathroom but walking with my IV in the hallway. Made it to the bathroom in considerable pain and later took a walk in the hallway. She passed me and with a slight twinkle in her eye and a barely detectable smile whispering "mmmm hmm". All of the nurses were awesome. Vegan_Golfer_PNW, 202, Jim Shaw and 3 others 6 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r Irons: P770 5-pw ... Steelfiber i80r TP UDi 4 ... Steelfiber i80r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Custom 5.1 (no alignment) 33" Ball: '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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