LICC Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 25 minutes ago, FrogginBullfish said: I believe the argument is that it's an alignment aid, but if that's the point should Golf Pride's Align grips also be banned? Should SeeMore's visual alignment thing on their putters be banned? Should alignment marks on woods and other putters be banned? Should lines/arrows/triple track on balls be banned? Where do you draw the line on alignment aids on the actual club/ball? Sent from my Pixel 2 using MyGolfSpy mobile app It has nothing to do with being an alignment aid. It is not a golf stroke when you anchor the club to your forearm. ryan.mzzz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrogginBullfish Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 It has nothing to do with being an alignment aid. It is not a golf stroke when you anchor the club to your forearm.In regards to people claiming rotating the grip so a flat portion is flush with the inside of the forearm is cheating, it is a question of it being an alignment aid.I don't agree that armlock is anchoring either.Sent from my Pixel 2 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Quote DRIVER PXG 0811XF GEN4 (10.5°) FAIRWAY WOODS PXG 0341XF GEN4 (16°) HYBRIDS PXG 0317XF GEN4 (19°), PXG 0317X GEN4 (22°) IRONS PXG 0311T GEN3 (5 - 9) WEDGES TAYLORMADE MG3 (45°, 50°, 55° TW Grind, 60° TW Grind) PUTTER PXG BATTLE READY ONE & DONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP043 Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 On 4/17/2021 at 3:31 PM, excourse said: The only caveat would be that no club longer than the driver be used to measure drops to eliminate the broomstick cheaters. That's what the rule says now, read the definition of "club-length". Its the longest club in your bag, besides the putter. 9 hours ago, Siamese Moose said: One of the key things I took from Horschel's comments was that guys are using putter grips that are turned 90°, so the flat surface is against the forearm. This means that the face will always be square to your arm. I agree with him that I don't think that is fair. The rule change for that should be simple: make it so the flat portion of the grip has to be perpendicular to the face. Other than that, I don't have a problem with armlock putting. A lot of the newer grips are pretty much square in cross-section, so if one side is perpendicular to the face, the adjacent side is parallel. ryan.mzzz 1 Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHolmes Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I hold my putter in both hands. I do n t rotate the face. And actually, i do everything possible to maintain a square face.According to your definition, my style should be illegal too. And my putter is locked in my hands, and i keep my left wrist stifc (locked). Two hands on the putter is gripping it. Locking it against your arm is anchoring the stroke. Not for the pivot point but for the face rotation. It shouldn’t be allowed. Sent from my SM-G991U using MyGolfSpy mobile app ryan.mzzz and excourse 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LICC Posted April 18, 2021 Author Share Posted April 18, 2021 30 minutes ago, JDHolmes said: I hold my putter in both hands. I do n t rotate the face. And actually, i do everything possible to maintain a square face. According to your definition, my style should be illegal too. And my putter is locked in my hands, and i keep my left wrist stifc (locked). Sent from my SM-G991U using MyGolfSpy mobile app I don't understand your point. If the only part of your body that is touching the club is your hands, how is that comparable to the arm lock? ryan.mzzz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I'm not sure why turning the grip any direction you want is cheating??? I'm not for banning any type of putter. If you want to hold it like a broom stick or burry it in your belly... have at it! If you are upset over that, do the same... or get better at your preferred method.Well said! I tried to like my arm lock however it fizzled out. It definitely takes some adapting to and I was short on patience. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ParrJuan2, excourse, sirchunksalot and 2 others 5 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chip Strokes Posted April 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2021 unless a handful of guys who switch to armlock star tearing though rounds with 20 putts, this seems like an awful lot of wasted energy and key strokes Peaksy68, cnosil, Nolan220 and 7 others 9 1 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Steve Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Do any of you remember when the "wasp waist " shaped putter grip was banned? I think they may have wanted to go after the ping grip too but I might be wrong there.... it was a Long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I hold my putter in both hands. I do n t rotate the face. And actually, i do everything possible to maintain a square face.According to your definition, my style should be illegal too. And my putter is locked in my hands, and i keep my left wrist stifc (locked).Sent from my SM-G991U using MyGolfSpy mobile appSame here, though I use left hand low. No wrist break or rotation. Just a straight back and through putting stroke.Take Dead Aim Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfhandds Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 This is all silly to me. Studies show over and over that speed control is more important than aim. Reading the green and controlling the line with correct speed is the key. I suspect you give up some speed control on long putts anchored and maybe gain some face control on short putts. Of course, you gain face control with claw or left hand low or other methods as well. Putt any way you want. If everyone can do it, it is not an advantage because anyone can do it if they want. excourse, ole gray, silver & black and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LICC Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share Posted April 19, 2021 11 hours ago, Golfhandds said: This is all silly to me. Studies show over and over that speed control is more important than aim. Reading the green and controlling the line with correct speed is the key. I suspect you give up some speed control on long putts anchored and maybe gain some face control on short putts. Of course, you gain face control with claw or left hand low or other methods as well. Putt any way you want. If everyone can do it, it is not an advantage because anyone can do it if they want. Aim and impacting the ball with the face square to the target doesn't matter?? Sorry, that's way off. ryan.mzzz and d.lama 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LICC Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share Posted April 19, 2021 15 hours ago, FrogginBullfish said: In regards to people claiming rotating the grip so a flat portion is flush with the inside of the forearm is cheating, it is a question of it being an alignment aid. I don't agree that armlock is anchoring either. Sent from my Pixel 2 using MyGolfSpy mobile app The issue is in how it aids the movement, not the alignment. Golf Magazine writers were asked if Horschel is on to something with the inappropriateness of arm-lock putting: Bamberger: Definitely. The USGA banned anchored putting. But not all anchored putting. This is not the free-swinging stroke the USGA seems to hold so dear. I agree with Billy. But only at the highest level. For regular-Joe golf, by whatever means necessary is my motto. Sens: Agreed. It’s like finding loopholes in the tax code. You can make rules, but people will always find creative ways around them that are technically legal but just don’t feel right. I agree with the whatever-means-necessary approach for the rest of us as well, which is why I’m sticking to the pool-cue method. So much easier. Dethier: Yeah, I don’t really understand why it’s still permitted when the spirit of the rules change seemed designed to make everyone a free-swinger. It was rather bold for Billy to take this stand in the midst of two rounds with arm-locker Will Zalatoris, but I guess he deserves credit for speaking his mind, regardless of present company. Piastowski: It certainly looks like it, doesn’t it? ryan.mzzz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfhandds Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, LICC said: Aim and impacting the ball with the face square to the target doesn't matter?? Sorry, that's way off. Did I say aim doesn't matter? Please reread, then ask yourself this question, How many putts with perfect aim but insufficient distance go in? NM01, ole gray and ryan.mzzz 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LICC Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Golfhandds said: Did I say aim doesn't matter? Please reread, then ask yourself this question, How many putts with perfect aim but insufficient distance go in? Your exact words: " ... speed control is more important than aim. Reading the green and controlling the line with correct speed is the key." Aim, speed, and stroke (impact) are all important to good putting. d.lama and ryan.mzzz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP043 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Golfhandds said: Did I say aim doesn't matter? Please reread, then ask yourself this question, How many putts with perfect aim but insufficient distance go in? Aim is important, being able to hit the intended line is important, reading the green properly is important. I don't believe any one aspect is more important than the others. If two of the three are correct, and the third is off, the putt will miss. If two aspects are off, its possible that they'll counteract each another, but that's typically an accident. As far as arm-lock, its one of a multitude of nontraditional methods of gripping the club that are designed to produce more consistent directional control. I have no problem with it in general, as the butt of the club still moves, which seems to me to be within the intention of the rules. I think that drawing the line at anchoring to the body itself is appropriate. NM01, Nolan220, excourse and 1 other 4 Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfhandds Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, LICC said: Your exact words: " ... speed control is more important than aim. Reading the green and controlling the line with correct speed is the key." Aim, speed, and stroke (impact) are all important to good putting. Yep, they are all important. But I can tell you this. If I had a wish to get 100% correct every time, it would be distance control. Three putts would be eliminated. Let me figure out the aim and let me always hit it the right distance. cnosil, THEZIPR23 and excourse 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP043 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, Golfhandds said: Yep, they are all important. But I can tell you this. If I had a wish to get 100% correct every time, it would be distance control. Three putts would be eliminated. Let me figure out the aim and let me always hit it the right distance. I'll agree that for 3-putt avoidance, speed control is the primary concern. But at some point you need to MAKE putts with some regularity, say the 3 to 10-foot range, and making putts requires all three aspects. Golfhandds, ryan.mzzz, cnosil and 1 other 3 1 Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I don't believe any one aspect is more important than the others. If two of the three are correct, and the third is off, the putt will miss. If two aspects are off, its possible that they'll counteract each another, but that's typically an accident. I would think saying matchup would be better than correct. There are multiple combinations of line and speed that will work for any putt. I can hit a putt with different line and or speed than I intended and still make a putt. Skill level probably has a lot to do with importance. Someone just learning how to putt I would put line as being most important,Then speed, then Read. As you get more experienced, speed becomes more important because they have a decent stroke and can start the ball on line. Once you can control line and speed daily well you can start to fine tune reading greens. At the professional level these guys are good with speed control and startline so reading the greens and matching correct speed becomes the most key. Tying this back to the topic. While armlock helps with stroke, it does very little to helpwith speed control and green reading which are the two things that I believe are most important at the professional level. Professionals simply start the ball on their intended line. While people don’t like the looks of armlock, I am not seeing any data that shows armlock; Or even anchoring, produces Better mechanics and performance. People have “locked” the putter in place for many years. Like the rollback of equipment this is a problem of perspective and people saying it goes against the traditions of the game. Golfhandds, Nolan220, Kenny B and 4 others 6 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrogginBullfish Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 You are arguing a completely different point. None of what I said about turning the grip strictly relates to armlock putting. There's nothing stopping a player using a more traditional putting stroke from turning their grip either for better alignment.Armlocking in and of itself doesn't improve alignment, and I've never said that it does, so I really don't know why you're trying to argue me on that when it's irrelevant to what I was talking about, which was solely the turning of the grip for better alignment. The issue is in how it aids the movement, not the alignment. Golf Magazine writers were asked if Horschel is on to something with the inappropriateness of arm-lock putting: Bamberger: Definitely. The USGA banned anchored putting. But not all anchored putting. This is not the free-swinging stroke the USGA seems to hold so dear. I agree with Billy. But only at the highest level. For regular-Joe golf, by whatever means necessary is my motto. Sens: Agreed. It’s like finding loopholes in the tax code. You can make rules, but people will always find creative ways around them that are technically legal but just don’t feel right. I agree with the whatever-means-necessary approach for the rest of us as well, which is why I’m sticking to the pool-cue method. So much easier. Dethier: Yeah, I don’t really understand why it’s still permitted when the spirit of the rules change seemed designed to make everyone a free-swinger. It was rather bold for Billy to take this stand in the midst of two rounds with arm-locker Will Zalatoris, but I guess he deserves credit for speaking his mind, regardless of present company. Piastowski: It certainly looks like it, doesn’t it? Sent from my Pixel 2 using MyGolfSpy mobile app ryan.mzzz and NM01 1 1 Quote DRIVER PXG 0811XF GEN4 (10.5°) FAIRWAY WOODS PXG 0341XF GEN4 (16°) HYBRIDS PXG 0317XF GEN4 (19°), PXG 0317X GEN4 (22°) IRONS PXG 0311T GEN3 (5 - 9) WEDGES TAYLORMADE MG3 (45°, 50°, 55° TW Grind, 60° TW Grind) PUTTER PXG BATTLE READY ONE & DONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LICC Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share Posted April 19, 2021 46 minutes ago, cnosil said: I would think saying matchup would be better than correct. There are multiple combinations of line and speed that will work for any putt. I can hit a putt with different line and or speed than I intended and still make a putt. Skill level probably has a lot to do with importance. Someone just learning how to putt I would put line as being most important, Then speed, then Read. As you get more experienced, speed becomes more important because they have a decent stroke and can start the ball on line. Once you can control line and speed daily well you can start to fine tune reading greens. At the professional level these guys are good with speed control and startline so reading the greens and matching correct speed becomes the most key. Tying this back to the topic. While armlock helps with stroke, it does very little to help with speed control and green reading which are the two things that I believe are most important at the professional level. Professionals simply start the ball on their intended line. While people don’t like the looks of armlock, I am not seeing any data that shows armlock; Or even anchoring, produces Better mechanics and performance. People have “locked” the putter in place for many years. Like the rollback of equipment this is a problem of perspective and people saying it goes against the traditions of the game. Pros don't magically have the ability to always putt on line. Pros struggle with this like everyone else. When Morikawa switched to a new grip, he said it was a gamechanger for him because he didn't have to worry about the line anymore and only had to worry about speed. If anchoring didn't help, you wouldn't have seen Keegan Bradley and some others drop off a cliff with their putting after it was banned. Bryson's putting has improved considerably using the armlock. This technique goes against the concept of swinging the club without an anchor. Disallow it. ryan.mzzz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 28 minutes ago, LICC said: Disallow it. i think maybe just one more new topic complaining about the current state of golf will get you over the hump and make the ruling bodies take heed. definitely just ooooone more. you’re almost there, don’t stop now. Golfhandds, THEZIPR23, Nolan220 and 2 others 3 2 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP043 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said: i think maybe just one more new topic complaining about the current state of golf will get you over the hump and make the ruling bodies take heed. definitely just ooooone more. you’re almost there, don’t stop now. Maybe @LICC should write his own rules, starting from scratch. There are certainly a bunch that he thinks need to be changed. cnosil, ole gray, Kevin W and 6 others 3 1 5 Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEZIPR23 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 16 hours ago, Chip Strokes said: unless a handful of guys who switch to armlock star tearing though rounds with 20 putts, this seems like an awful lot of wasted energy and key strokes Welcome to the world of golf, 24/7 news cycle, and forums. A lot of wasted hot air. GolfSpy_BNG, cnosil, excourse and 1 other 3 1 Quote Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Pros don't magically have the ability to always putt on line. Pros struggle with this like everyone else. When Morikawa switched to a new grip, he said it was a gamechanger for him because he didn't have to worry about the line anymore and only had to worry about speed. If anchoring didn't help, you wouldn't have seen Keegan Bradley and some others drop off a cliff with their putting after it was banned. Bryson's putting has improved considerably using the armlock. This technique goes against the concept of swinging the club without an anchor. Disallow it.I will still say that pros are good with line. Like with full swing face angle is a variable that pros want to make more consistent going from .75* to .5* is huge for a pro. There is variation with armlock as well. Prior to the ban how long had those players been using belly or broomstick putters? Forcing them change something they have been doing for years will have a performance impact. While you don’t like armlock, it isn’t against the rules and therefore isn’t cheating. This like the groove changes and distance debate is about perception of what golf should look like. I get your perspective but there is no evidence of any significant performance improvement. Let’s ban all grips but reverse overlap for putting. No left hand low and no claw players shouldn’t be allowed to grip the club in a way that gives them a performance benefit. For your next change the rules discussion how about we discuss wedge grinds. I think there should be a standard grind for all wedges and a single bounce. Players are hitting the ball too well with their wedges since they can alter the clubs too optimize specific type of shots. They should rely on talent and not the club. NM01, THEZIPR23, excourse and 4 others 5 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off The Tow Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) Many have been saying using armlock should be illegal because the locking prevents face rotation. The last time I checked, my forearms (radius and ulna) can rotate freely from the elbow with or without a putter attached. Edited April 19, 2021 by Off The Tow cnosil, DaveP043 and excourse 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP043 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 Its interesting to me, Horschel says these guys are doing it "too good". Well if this is a better way to putt, if they're gaining strokes on him because of this putting grip, why in the hell is he not doing it himself?? To be honest, this sounds a bit like jealousy to me. A small number of guys are using a different method, but those guys aren't winning every tournament. Perhaps Billy is simply a substandard putter (by PGA Tour standards) and is looking for excuses. Or perhaps the interviewer just caught Horschel at a bad moment. Nonetheless, PGA Tour players, in general, aren't knowledgeable enough about the rules for their opinions about the rules to be taken all that seriously. ole gray, Nolan220, cnosil and 4 others 7 Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LICC Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 hours ago, cnosil said: I will still say that pros are good with line. Like with full swing face angle is a variable that pros want to make more consistent going from .75* to .5* is huge for a pro. There is variation with armlock as well. Prior to the ban how long had those players been using belly or broomstick putters? Forcing them change something they have been doing for years will have a performance impact. While you don’t like armlock, it isn’t against the rules and therefore isn’t cheating. This like the groove changes and distance debate is about perception of what golf should look like. I get your perspective but there is no evidence of any significant performance improvement. Let’s ban all grips but reverse overlap for putting. No left hand low and no claw players shouldn’t be allowed to grip the club in a way that gives them a performance benefit. For your next change the rules discussion how about we discuss wedge grinds. I think there should be a standard grind for all wedges and a single bounce. Players are hitting the ball too well with their wedges since they can alter the clubs too optimize specific type of shots. They should rely on talent and not the club. You are the king of straw men. There is evidence that the arm lock has improved performance- all the players who improved their putting after using it. Bryson, Bradley, Simpson, Kuchar, etc. And arm locking is not the same as different hand grips. Arm, not hand. Hence the term, "arm lock". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LICC Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share Posted April 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Chip Strokes said: i think maybe just one more new topic complaining about the current state of golf will get you over the hump and make the ruling bodies take heed. definitely just ooooone more. you’re almost there, don’t stop now. So just post about rules that you agree with? Hmm, that rule not allowing you to ground your club in a bunker is great. Let's talk about that ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinkie Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 I don't understand why the USGA and RGA don't put a max putter length in the rules. That would get rid of all this. d.lama and LICC 2 Quote Golf without a cigar has not been a good use of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip Strokes Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 hour ago, LICC said: So just post about rules that you agree with? Hmm, that rule not allowing you to ground your club in a bunker is great. Let's talk about that ... Kevin W and Nolan220 1 1 Quote SIM2 8º | KuroKage XD 70TX SIM 3W 14º | Fujikura Atmos Black Tour Spec 9TX SIM2 5W 18º | Fujikura Ventus Black 10X U500 2i | Fujikura Ventus HB Black 10TX T100 4-PW | Dynamic Gold X7 SM6 52* SM8 56* SM8 60* | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 DW | BGT Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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