Popular Post vandyland Posted October 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2021 A bit of a dramatic title but I have been on quite the rollercoaster with putting the last few months. To summarize, went from conventional putting to heads up putting, then tried to incorporate a straight back and straight through stroke, then tried to switch to the saw grip, then tried an armlock putter (in store) and finally returned to conventional putting the last few rounds. I have always disliked putting because I felt I was a poor putter and that scoring was too heavily influenced by putting. Well, whether any of that is true or not is irrelevant. Putting IS important and you can't really ball strike your way around poor putting unless you are ELITE (which I am not). So, after getting some good advice from @cnosilin the heads up thread, I had to step back and see if I was a bad putter or if I just had too high of expectations. I used this strokes gained putting calculator for my last two rounds (9 hole and 18 hole, respectively) and found out I was gaining strokes putting. Now, I will admit that the 18 hole round was clearly a good putting day, for the most part. In the past I would have dwelled on the missed 3ft putt and the 3 putt from 40 ft instead of the makes from 12 and 9 feet. So what is the point? I guess I would encourage others to take a look at their putting and see if it is as bad (or good) as you think it is. To get better, I think having consistently solid putting performances is the fastest way to lower scores. So it is my goal to keep getting better at putting or at least have it at the forefront of my practice. Maverick McNealy noted that his rise from obscurity in the WAGR was down to forcing himself to become a better putter by practicing putting FIRST anytime he went to the golf course. To accomplish that goal I have the following tasks/habits I am working on: _Commit to practicing 3x times a week with my blast golf motion sensor and a metal yard stick to work on the hitting my starting line (minimum of 75 putts per session) _Establish a preshot routine that involves walking off the putt (quickly, we don't have all day here), reading the putt and then "feeling my line". A key here is that I try to spend a lot more time looking at the hole than my ball or my stroke. The more time I can spend softly looking at my target and the intended line, the better chance I have of executing a good putt. _Giving full attention to my putts (I have been guilty in the past of just walking up to putts and glancing at the line and hitting them, I would never do that over a 150 yd shot from fwy) _Literally remind myself I am an above average putter (using the above data points) and that it can and should be a strength of my game _Continue to track strokes gained on putting each round with the understanding that there will be ups and downs. I hope to update this with evidence of me sticking to this plan. I would encourage anyone else who struggles with putting or who has ideas for their own putting progress to participate. Kenny B, Bohnson, cnosil and 8 others 9 2 Quote STZ 230 9.5* / Pro Fli-Hi 21* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* / Carnoustie 60* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 HackMotion Official Review -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 Have had two practice sessions over the last two days and wanted to show off a nice feature of the Blast Motion Sensor, the graphs over the entire practice session. Still working on consistency but at least I have a two way miss with the putter now, haha. The first graphs show the face angle at impact (above the line represents open face and below the line is closed face): And tempo (ideal tempo is 2:1): Kenny B, vamosjackets and cnosil 3 Quote STZ 230 9.5* / Pro Fli-Hi 21* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* / Carnoustie 60* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 HackMotion Official Review -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Is your ideal tempo 2.1? There is no single "ideal" tempo for all golfers. Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 I would say I pay less attention to that then face angle. The 2:1 ratio is what Blast recommends and I usually stay around that EXCEPT when my through stroke starts getting longer. In a way, the ratio helps me keep my backstroke and through stroke even in that way. Face angle, for me, is the end all be all. tony@CIC 1 Quote STZ 230 9.5* / Pro Fli-Hi 21* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* / Carnoustie 60* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 HackMotion Official Review -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted November 1, 2021 Author Share Posted November 1, 2021 Well had a great round (back 9 really) yesterday. I played a new course with nice greens but some wild pin placements so I think putting well was a premium. I had recently switched back to my Seemore FGP and my speed was good all day but reads were bad on the front. I sorted it out by the last few holes and finished on a heater (shot 32 on the back): All pars and birdies on the back. The putt on 18 probably broke about 3 feet. I'm buzzing. Putting is everything. tony@CIC and Haro 2 Quote STZ 230 9.5* / Pro Fli-Hi 21* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* / Carnoustie 60* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 HackMotion Official Review -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 Another pretty good day putting. Didn't really make anything on the front until 9 and then went on a run on the back. The 7 footer I made on 16 I had to put like 4 balls outside of the hole. Just a really rewarding day putting and I ended up shooting 74 which I would chalk up mostly to no 3 putts and making several par saves from over 5 feet. Haro and tony@CIC 2 Quote STZ 230 9.5* / Pro Fli-Hi 21* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* / Carnoustie 60* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 HackMotion Official Review -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 Several months in and I must say that focusing on putting and having a good attitude about putting has improved my overall enjoyment of the game significantly. Just came off a round with: - Zero 3 putts! - 2.04 strokes gained - +3 75 on a day where I didn't really have it ballstriking wise. Add to that, I didn't make any bombs over 12 ft and it really shows me how important putting is. I played with a guy who hit it significantly better than I did but he 3 putted from 30-40 ft 3 times and I realized that was me a few months ago. Also, a few things that have worked for me lately: - Spend much more time looking at the hole while setting up for your putt. Trying to "feel it" with my stroke while looking at the hole was pretty useless. I find just slowly looking up and down my line while over the ball gives me a good sense of feel. - Once you look down at the ball the final time, just pull the trigger. - Keep your through stroke short and definitely shorter than your backstroke or AT MOST the same length. The long through stroke is a recipe for a push most of the time. Especially on short putts. tony@CIC, Shapotomous and Haro 3 Quote STZ 230 9.5* / Pro Fli-Hi 21* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* / Carnoustie 60* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 HackMotion Official Review -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonSal Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Putting is really hard, and if you find a technique that helps, that's a beautiful thing. It took me years to discover that I would never putt the ball into the ocean from the deck of a cruiseship using a conventional putting stroke. If I stand with my head over the ball and my feet parallel to the line, I'm more likely to catch a fish than sink putt. I putt with an open stance so I can triangulate my view, and I push the putter straight up the line, with no arc, using my right hand. I'm just using my left hand to keep my hands on the grip. My right elbow is tucked in while I'm completely unaware of where my left elbow might be. This method does not make me a great putter by any means. It does prevent me from being an attrocious one, however. It feels more natural to me, and I don't shake and shiver standing over the ball. Fairwayguy2, tony@CIC and vandyland 3 Quote Louisville Golf Persimmon___2, 4, 5, 7-woods; Epon AF-906___driving iron; Titleist T100 5, 6, 7, 8, 9-irons; Titleist T100S___48°; Edison 2.0___53º; Titleist SM-9 (T)___58º; Tad Moore Otto Hackbarth___putter; Titleist Pro V1x___ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 @BostonSalI think whatever gets you as close as possible to 0.0 face angle at impact and you can consistently hit a certain speed is what is needed for putting. I understand exactly what you are talking about with putting open and I have done that before. Currently I am putting completely square because I am back with my Seemore. Ultimately, this thread is less about me trying to say "I've figured out putting" (because of course I haven't) but more to be a reminder to myself that what I am doing is working and moving in the right direction. One bad putting day shouldn't force a change or overreaction on my part. And, finally, once you have a reliable overall game...putting along with chipping/pitching is what is going to be the difference between a good day and a great day, scoring wise. Tom D., BostonSal and tony@CIC 3 Quote STZ 230 9.5* / Pro Fli-Hi 21* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* / Carnoustie 60* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 HackMotion Official Review -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 hours ago, vandyland said: Several months in and I must say that focusing on putting and having a good attitude about putting has improved my overall enjoyment of the game significantly. ... Great progress! Granted there is reading the green and having a repeatable stroke involved but putting is much more mental than physical. We can't hit drives like anyone on the PGA Tour but we can putt like they do. Don't try and make a decent putt, don't try and lag it close ... try and make every putt you face. If you believe you can, the odds go up exponentially. The power of positive thinking is never stronger than rolling a ball several feet into a hole. Literally anyone can do it. You just have to believe you can. vandyland, downlowkey, Shapotomous and 3 others 6 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r Irons: P770 5-pw ... Steelfiber i80r TP UDi 4 ... Steelfiber i80r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Custom 5.1 (no alignment) 33" Ball: '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArnieM Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I’ve been to hell and back with my putting. Yesterday 3 putted from 3 feet, threw my ball into the water, wife asks why, I reply the ball is cheaper than the putter. The only hope I seem to have (yes I have tried everything else - EVERYTHING - is the old Arnold Palmer method, pigeon toed knees locked together, arms locked and motionless, entire stroke with the wrists, straight back straight through pop stroke. It works on the practice green I just need the strength of purpose to take it to the course. Can’t be worse than I am now. Truly makes the blade travel straight back and through, the alinement feature on top of the putter travels in a straight line. Anyone else try this/resort to this? Palmer and Casper were brilliant putters in their day, second to none. tony@CIC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDTVMAN Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Go to Club Champion, get fit and get a lesson. RollingGreens and tony@CIC 1 1 Quote Certified Club Fitter. Ping G425 Max Driver 10.5° w/Fujikura Ventus TR Ping G425 Max 5-7-9 Fairway Woods w/Ping Alta CB Ping G425 Irons 5-U w/Ping Alta CB (Power-Spec Lofts) Ping 4.0 Eye2 Glide Wedges 54°-58° w/Recoil SmacWrap Ping Redwood ZB Putter w/PP58 PING Pioneer Cart Bag Lamkin Sonar+ Wrap Mid-Size Grips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingGreens Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Really cool how you are tracking your progress. Typically when most golfers take a step back I would think the opposite occurs and their not as good of a putter as they think. Plus the sensor is a great way to work toward consistency. You can eliminate the variables like face angle and temp and the last part is green reading which cannot really be objectified outside of made or missed putts vandyland, tony@CIC and Tom D. 3 Quote Stealth 2 Plus 9deg Kai' li Red Stealth 2 13deg Aldilla Rogue Silver Stealth 2 15deg Aldilla Rogue Silver JPX 921 Hot Metal 4-PW Nippon Modus 120s SM8 54 and 58deg Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex Scotty Cameron Newport 2 Titleist ProV1 Hoofer Stand Bag Stewart Q Follow Electric Caddie 300 PRO Rangefinder Official Nippon Regio B+ Driver Shaft Review Official Stewart Q Follow Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 87 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 It's a black art for sure. But I think you're on the right line. Pun intended. tony@CIC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haro Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 For the mental side of putting I try to minimize hope and fear Meaning I just practice holing out fairly flat short putts that don’t break at all or just a bit of break to gain confidence first This way I eliminated the fear of fast breaking short putts until I have to play Concentrate my practice to 12 foot and in as those are more make able range I was practicing to many long putts “hoping” they go in For longer putts I just practice distance control to fringe, or to another ball Percentages are that I’m not going to make most of my long putts but if I have good distance control and proper read I have a chance to wobble the ball in If I stick to that process I should never 3 putt tony@CIC, cnosil, Tom D. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybogey Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Yep; played with a couple of Wrong Armers!! One even went Left Hand Low. Didn't seem to help him & the Other Guy could not Putt from either side!! No Pro, however, think keeping side consistent from Tee to On Green keeps your Head on Straight!! tony@CIC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegolfgal Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Putting can be fickle to say the least. What helped me to be what I consider a decent putter you ask? I bought one of those stand alone putters and realized where the putter is actually aiming and not where I think it is aiming. I used the putter to learn not to play with as I hate the grip but it worked. I now putt with confidence and make many more putts because of it. Happy golfing! chisag and tony@CIC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfzilla70 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Just my two cents' worth: Putting expectations for most people are way too high. You can go to the green, basically master 5' putts, and then go to the course and get robbed because of a blemish in the green, or perhaps just misread the green itself. The pros are in another class, and they have to be because it's their livelihood at stake. I'm about a 3 handicap myself, and while i see golfers that are better than me regularly, they putt only marginally better at close range. It's truly amazing, when you look at stats, how close everyone is in their putting between 3' and 10'. I truly believe an area that you can practice in putting that really makes a difference is in your ability to 2-putt from longer ranges. If you rarely 3-putt, you're probably gaining strokes on just about everybody. Stuka44 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donn lost in San Diego Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Cross handed. Index finger of front hand is straight on the front of the shaft, helps feel for straight align at moment of stroke. Heads up on medium and long, head down on short, but look at hole out of the corner of my eye. Use a balanced face putter. No stats to offer. Practice practice practice, and focus focus focus, and also, relax, at the same time as focus. Think positive, it is fun to putt. Quote #1 PXG 0211 10.5 deg, Evnflo Riptide CB 40 gram A flex. 3W: Callaway Steelhead Xr, Tensei Blue CK 55 gram A flex. 5W : Titleist TSi 1, Aldila Ascent 40 regular flex. Driving Iron: Mizuno MP 18 MMC Fli-Hi 3i 18 degree, Recoil 95 reg flex. 4 iron: GFF Mizuno Fly-Hi, 24 degree forged hollow body, Aerotech Steelfiber . 5 Hybrid: Mizuno (2017) JPX Fli-Hi wave tech, Recoil ESX 460 reg flex. Irons: 6 - PW: Ping I 500, on Recoil Smacwrap ES 760, reg flex. Wedges: 2 x Mizuno S5 52/09. 1@ 50 deg, 1@ 54 deg; New (July 2024) Mizu ES 21, 58 x 08, jet black. Chipper: Don Martin "Up n In" brass/bronze. Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab "R" Ball, face balanced, with 2 piece Stroke Lab multi material shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted December 16, 2021 Author Share Posted December 16, 2021 Well yesterday was a quick 9 holes and a bit of a disappointing putting day except for a nice 21 footer made for birdie on #5. All around it was a humbling day as I just didn't really have it in any facet of the game but was interesting because of how volatile my scoring was (went double, bogey, double, birdie, birdie, PAR, bogey, bogey, PAR). I will chalk this up to rushing a bit in my "process" as I was playing by myself and trying to finish before dark. Managed to play 9 holes in about 58 minutes walking. Quote STZ 230 9.5* / Pro Fli-Hi 21* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* / Carnoustie 60* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 HackMotion Official Review -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share Posted December 20, 2021 Update, I might be a good (or at least streaky) putter now with all this practice: Quote STZ 230 9.5* / Pro Fli-Hi 21* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* / Carnoustie 60* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 HackMotion Official Review -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droptopman Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 @vandylandboy can I relate to your situation. Thanks for posting your story and the data of your practice sessions. This year has been terrible on the greens. 4 handicap giving up 4-5 strokes on average on the greens a round. Great year for ball striking though...I think I tried 12 different putters this year. I have a nice collection of Scotty's but most are blades with lots of toe hang. For most of my golf life I have been above average putter and putting was a strength. Got the yips this spring and was routinely missing 3 footers. Got so bad, I would rather have a 10 footer than a 3 footer. So I did what any crazy golfer would do, buy more equipment. On top of that, tried about every technique known to man. Here is the list: 50 inch broom style, SIK 45 inch arm lock, Scotty T22 Newport II 37 inch, Scotty Phantom X 5.5 (JT), Scotty GoLo 5, Several old vintage Scotty's, Scotty Futura X7 38 inch, Taylor Made Spider EX, SIK Pro 37 inch. Multiple grips changes, grips, set ups. Heads up, left hand low, pencil, saw, traditional....even tried putting left handed. Finally snowed here so practicing on a perfect practice mat. Trying to stick with something, so most consistent visually (where the putter face and track is and how the ball is rolling and of course going in the hole) is the Futura X7 which is the only face balanced putter I own with min toe hang. Super stroke 2.0 XL grip, using the pencil grip. I seem to be able to keep the face on my line the most consistent with this set up. No yips. I have used it before on the course and see improvement 10 feet and I, but historically have struggled with longer putts with mallets. I did order a Odyssey Two Ball Ten 38 inch/2 upright which it total face balance and no toe hang, which will be here in a few weeks. I hate giving up the feel I have with a blade putter, especially the trillium putters, but I need performance over feel at this point. Will continue to practice until the snow melts or until the wife and I get to Palm Springs in February. Come spring, practice, practice, practice on all lengths until I get comfortable with the set up. I know I need to stick with something though. Golf buddies are always cracking jokes about what putter and technique I will be using today. What kind of launch monitor are you using to track your putting? Kenny B, vandyland and Haro 3 Quote Stealth 2+ Ventus Black S, Epic Max 3 wood Smoke Black S, Epic 21 3 Hybrid Smoke Black S or an old Titleist 712U 2 iron with Smoke Black X, Mizuno 923 Tours Project X LS 6.0, Mizuno T21 50, 54, 58 KBS V tour S. Everything is +1 inch. Currently rolling a Cameron T-22 Limited Release Newport 2. Titleist ProV1 X left dash or AVX in the winter when its cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedeausen Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 What is the website you are using to track your strokes gained putting stats? Please share with us, so we can all experience some your putting magic, or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted December 21, 2021 Author Share Posted December 21, 2021 @joedeausen Strokes Gained Calculator - Track And Improve Your Putting (golfrankingstats.com) @Droptopman I can certainly relate. It is going well now but I know any day it could flip on me. I don't use a launch monitor, I use a Blast Motion sensor ( Blast Motion | Wearable Sports Analysis Technology - 3D Motion Sensor ) which, as noted above, tells me the face angle at impact which is the key (for me). I just practice 5-10 footers on repeat and try to keep the face angle between 0.5 and -0.5. Clemsonfan 1 Quote STZ 230 9.5* / Pro Fli-Hi 21* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* / Carnoustie 60* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 HackMotion Official Review -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Droptopman said: @vandylandboy can I relate to your situation. Thanks for posting your story and the data of your practice sessions. This year has been terrible on the greens. 4 handicap giving up 4-5 strokes on average on the greens a round. Great year for ball striking though...I think I tried 12 different putters this year. I have a nice collection of Scotty's but most are blades with lots of toe hang. For most of my golf life I have been above average putter and putting was a strength. Got the yips this spring and was routinely missing 3 footers. Got so bad, I would rather have a 10 footer than a 3 footer. So I did what any crazy golfer would do, buy more equipment. On top of that, tried about every technique known to man. Here is the list: 50 inch broom style, SIK 45 inch arm lock, Scotty T22 Newport II 37 inch, Scotty Phantom X 5.5 (JT), Scotty GoLo 5, Several old vintage Scotty's, Scotty Futura X7 38 inch, Taylor Made Spider EX, SIK Pro 37 inch. Multiple grips changes, grips, set ups. Heads up, left hand low, pencil, saw, traditional....even tried putting left handed. Finally snowed here so practicing on a perfect practice mat. Trying to stick with something, so most consistent visually (where the putter face and track is and how the ball is rolling and of course going in the hole) is the Futura X7 which is the only face balanced putter I own with min toe hang. Super stroke 2.0 XL grip, using the pencil grip. I seem to be able to keep the face on my line the most consistent with this set up. No yips. I have used it before on the course and see improvement 10 feet and I, but historically have struggled with longer putts with mallets. I did order a Odyssey Two Ball Ten 38 inch/2 upright which it total face balance and no toe hang, which will be here in a few weeks. I hate giving up the feel I have with a blade putter, especially the trillium putters, but I need performance over feel at this point. Will continue to practice until the snow melts or until the wife and I get to Palm Springs in February. Come spring, practice, practice, practice on all lengths until I get comfortable with the set up. I know I need to stick with something though. Golf buddies are always cracking jokes about what putter and technique I will be using today. What kind of launch monitor are you using to track your putting? Looks like we miss each other in Palm Springs. My wife and I are leaving on Feb 1. But we are only an hour away the rest of the year. Where do you normally play? Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haro Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) Winter months is the time to review my putting stroke This year I been doing drills at 4, 8, 12 foot range and less so from longer range I feeling more confident as most off my chips or 2nd putts are from this range And sometimes birdie putts too ! As long as I make my fair share off those short putts im content. Nothing worse then feeling that I will miss from 4 feet before I even step into the putt Also I notice that indoor putting to a table leg is sometimes detrimental as I found out when I go to outside afterwards I subconsciously hit it too hard and ball either rolls over the hole or bounces of the pin I think it better to roll it to a hole if I can Edited December 21, 2021 by Haro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom the Golf Nut Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 My goal over the winter is to work on putting. I have always been a pretty good putter but I noticed this past season I didn't have as many 1 putts as I normally do. I got lazy to put it frankly. If I was on the green in regulation my mind was easy par instead of possible birdie and didn't focus. On my Christmas list is a putting mat. Well I saw a UPS delivery that I probably wasn't supposed to see. So for sure I will be focusing on putting. Even though I said I wasn't going to chase numbers next season, if I can play as well next season as I did this year and make one more putt per round that should be the ticket to scratch. Wishful thinking but you always need a goal to shoot for. Thanks for the link to the strokes gained calculator. I'm sure that will come in handy. Since I have no clue where I stand versus where I think I stand. Tools are good. cnosil, vandyland and JFish350 3 Quote Driver, TSi 1 S Flex 3 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex Irons, Vice VGI01 Mitsubishi Wiz 60-gram regular flex (6 - PW) VGW01, 50 Degree. Mitsubishi Wiz 60-gram regular flex, Wedges, Snakebite KBS Hi- Rev2.0 54* & 60* Putter, Sacks Parente Drac Center Shafted 35" Ultralight 14-way Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droptopman Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 14 hours ago, vandyland said: @joedeausen Strokes Gained Calculator - Track And Improve Your Putting (golfrankingstats.com) @Droptopman I can certainly relate. It is going well now but I know any day it could flip on me. I don't use a launch monitor, I use a Blast Motion sensor ( Blast Motion | Wearable Sports Analysis Technology - 3D Motion Sensor ) which, as noted above, tells me the face angle at impact which is the key (for me). I just practice 5-10 footers on repeat and try to keep the face angle between 0.5 and -0.5. Thanks for the response. Makes sense. Keep up the good work! Quote Stealth 2+ Ventus Black S, Epic Max 3 wood Smoke Black S, Epic 21 3 Hybrid Smoke Black S or an old Titleist 712U 2 iron with Smoke Black X, Mizuno 923 Tours Project X LS 6.0, Mizuno T21 50, 54, 58 KBS V tour S. Everything is +1 inch. Currently rolling a Cameron T-22 Limited Release Newport 2. Titleist ProV1 X left dash or AVX in the winter when its cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Droptopman Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 13 hours ago, Kenny B said: Looks like we miss each other in Palm Springs. My wife and I are leaving on Feb 1. But we are only an hour away the rest of the year. Where do you normally play? Terra Lago for the most part since we stay right next door in the condos. But I usually hit a couple other courses during the week. Try to hit PGA West for at least one round. Wife cannot manage the harder courses well so those are generally solo or pair up with strangers rounds. Not looking good here so I may have a long layoff from playing when we go. Kenny B 1 Quote Stealth 2+ Ventus Black S, Epic Max 3 wood Smoke Black S, Epic 21 3 Hybrid Smoke Black S or an old Titleist 712U 2 iron with Smoke Black X, Mizuno 923 Tours Project X LS 6.0, Mizuno T21 50, 54, 58 KBS V tour S. Everything is +1 inch. Currently rolling a Cameron T-22 Limited Release Newport 2. Titleist ProV1 X left dash or AVX in the winter when its cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haro Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Had a really good day in the course putting All I can remember is that for the short ones I was not “finessing” Just using my shoulder blade muscles particularly my lead shoulder blade as pendulum and as I got more lengthy putts used a bit more wrist as double pendulum wrist and shoulders. Probably something that only works for a day. Lol vandyland 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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