GaryF Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Anyone familiar with or play any of the Sub70 line of putters? I know I need a putter fitting but not in the cards for the time being. I strongly prefer traditional blade putters and I have a slight arc. Have struggled with an old ping that on long putts often “mishit”. It has a small insert and hitting the edge kills the putt. I reverted back to a very only Nicklaus blade, with larger, heavier head. I do better with it and don’t get the mishits but just don’t like the look/feel. Have been looking at the sub70 001 blade. I like that it is milled and has a heavier head - thinking about ordering it. Opinions? Hobert, James Dougall and GolfSpy_APH 3 Quote Driver: Fusion, 9 deg, UST Recoil 450 ES F3/2 430 MAX 4w (5w head delofted 1* with 3w shaft), 7w, 5h w/ Alta CB Soft Regular shaft JPX923 HM 6i - GW w/ UST Recoil 460 ESX F3 RTX6 52* and 56* with Recoil 760 ESX F2 Versa DB DoubleWide : Z-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobert Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, GaryF said: Anyone familiar with or play any of the Sub70 line of putters? I know I need a putter fitting but not in the cards for the time being. I strongly prefer traditional blade putters and I have a slight arc. Have struggled with an old ping that on long putts often “mishit”. It has a small insert and hitting the edge kills the putt. I reverted back to a very only Nicklaus blade, with larger, heavier head. I do better with it and don’t get the mishits but just don’t like the look/feel. Have been looking at the sub70 001 blade. I like that it is milled and has a heavier head - thinking about ordering it. Opinions? Based on the quality of their other products, what I have read about their putters, and their return policy, I wouldn't hesitate. GolfSpy_APH and GaryF 2 Quote 849D with Evenflow Riptide (stiff) V Steel 3 wood 699U 3 (19.5*) 699 (4-6) / 699 Pro (7-PW) with Tour 120 shafts (stiff) JAWS Raw (50/54/58 degrees) ER8v with Fujikura MC shaft (firm) Kirkland V3 2023 2.5+ / University of Miami Stand Bag Nitron - Forum Test Review Pro L2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, GaryF said: Have been looking at the sub70 001 blade. I like that it is milled and has a heavier head - thinking about ordering it. Opinions? Having tried them during most wanted testing I can say they are high quality products and are equivalent to any putter on the market. You can pay lots more for some brands like a Scotty but it isnt any better or worse than the Sub70. The big OEMs just provide more options/configurations. If the putter fits your stroke and you can control line and distance it could be the best putter you could ever owned. Looks, sound, and feel are all subjective so this may be where the different product separate. berkeleybob, GaryF, GolfSpy_APH and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschott Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Spoiler Currently playing the Sub 70 FN1 putter and love it. Puts a good roll on the ball and nice feel. Had the 004 before that, both are very good just putting better with the blade at the present time GaryF, GolfSpy_APH, fozcycle and 2 others 3 2 Quote Driver-Sub70 849D 3 wood-Sub70 939X 5 wood-Callaway Rogue 4 hybrid-Tour Edge EXS 220 irons-Sub70 699 V2 irons wedges-Sub70 JB wedges, 50, 54, 58 putter-Sub 70 FN 001 with Evenroll Gravity Grip Ball-OnCore Elixir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryF Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Hobert said: Based on the quality of their other products, what I have read about their putters, and their return policy, I wouldn't hesitate. I think I am going to. I like plumbers neck and it is on back order for sometime this month. Hobert and Placasse61 2 Quote Driver: Fusion, 9 deg, UST Recoil 450 ES F3/2 430 MAX 4w (5w head delofted 1* with 3w shaft), 7w, 5h w/ Alta CB Soft Regular shaft JPX923 HM 6i - GW w/ UST Recoil 460 ESX F3 RTX6 52* and 56* with Recoil 760 ESX F2 Versa DB DoubleWide : Z-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattF Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 I have the 005 Wide double bend face balanced. I put the heaviest weights in it and have to say I love the putter. berkeleybob, Hobert and GaryF 3 Quote In the bag: Driver: Darkspeed X 9° UST Mamiya LIN-Q M40X Blue 7F4 Fairway: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Fairway 14 stand bag Balls: Chrome Tour Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the King, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryF Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 10 hours ago, MattF said: I have the 005 Wide double bend face balanced. I put the heaviest weights in it and have to say I love the putter. I called Sub70 if they had any updated status on the 001 and after a short discussion they were suggesting a “mid mallet” style might fit my profile better, and I’m pretty sure they said the 005 fits that definition. Now that I have read the description, what characteristics would cause one to lean ‘face balanced’ vs 40* toe hang. Should smeone with a slight arc stroke go face balanced and someone with a strong arc go 40*? Or? Quote Driver: Fusion, 9 deg, UST Recoil 450 ES F3/2 430 MAX 4w (5w head delofted 1* with 3w shaft), 7w, 5h w/ Alta CB Soft Regular shaft JPX923 HM 6i - GW w/ UST Recoil 460 ESX F3 RTX6 52* and 56* with Recoil 760 ESX F2 Versa DB DoubleWide : Z-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 The 005 Wide has my attention. I don't necessarily think I will be making a putter change. The last time I did well it didn't go so well, however often it is just too tempting! Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattF Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 8 hours ago, GaryF said: I called Sub70 if they had any updated status on the 001 and after a short discussion they were suggesting a “mid mallet” style might fit my profile better, and I’m pretty sure they said the 005 fits that definition. Now that I have read the description, what characteristics would cause one to lean ‘face balanced’ vs 40* toe hang. Should smeone with a slight arc stroke go face balanced and someone with a strong arc go 40*? Or? Face balanced is for a straight back and through stroke, which I have. If you have a mid arc a low to mid toe hang and if you have a high arc, a high toe hang, around 70° is suggested. Best thing to do if you can't get a fitting is try to test the 3 main types to see how you get on. GaryF 1 Quote In the bag: Driver: Darkspeed X 9° UST Mamiya LIN-Q M40X Blue 7F4 Fairway: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Fairway 14 stand bag Balls: Chrome Tour Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the King, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hack62tpi Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 I have a 005 wide and I love it. It comes with a weight kit that allows you to adjust the weighting to your liking. It is a good looking putter and performs well. Sub70 customer service is first rate. BobBC78 and tschott 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryF Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 50 minutes ago, hack62tpi said: I have a 005 wide and I love it. It comes with a weight kit that allows you to adjust the weighting to your liking. It is a good looking putter and performs well. Sub70 customer service is first rate. Does the weight kit low a full range of adjustment so if I have a slight arc I can get it adjusted close to that? Quote Driver: Fusion, 9 deg, UST Recoil 450 ES F3/2 430 MAX 4w (5w head delofted 1* with 3w shaft), 7w, 5h w/ Alta CB Soft Regular shaft JPX923 HM 6i - GW w/ UST Recoil 460 ESX F3 RTX6 52* and 56* with Recoil 760 ESX F2 Versa DB DoubleWide : Z-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hack62tpi Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 I believe that you should be able to adjust the weighting to your liking. The kit includes 5, 10, 15 and 20 gram weights. I play with the 20 grams weights since my putter is only33 inches in length. MattF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 10 hours ago, GaryF said: I called Sub70 if they had any updated status on the 001 and after a short discussion they were suggesting a “mid mallet” style might fit my profile better, and I’m pretty sure they said the 005 fits that definition. Now that I have read the description, what characteristics would cause one to lean ‘face balanced’ vs 40* toe hang. Should smeone with a slight arc stroke go face balanced and someone with a strong arc go 40*? Or? IMO, the goal of any putter is to help you start the ball online and control distance. Toe hang is simply a byproduct of getting the right combination of design characteristics. I have a slight arc, left biased, low rotation stroke that I tend to hold open on the forward stroke to avoid a left miss. Face balanced for me is typically a right miss because it resists rotation. The left bias makes it look like a straight back stroke, but all strokes are, mine is just tilted left. what this means is I need to find the right balance of weight and amount of rotation that helps me get the putter to the right impact location. rotation can be controlled with features like offset and weight. long way of saying you really need to try the putter to get a definitive answer; both could work but other characteristics may influence rotation. What questions did they ask you, what were you answers, and which did they recommend? Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryF Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 53 minutes ago, cnosil said: what this means is I need to find the right balance of weight and amount of rotation that helps me get the putter to the right impact location. rotation can be controlled with features like offset and weight. long way of saying you really need to try the putter to get a definitive answer; both could work but other characteristics may influence rotation. What questions did they ask you, what were you answers, and which did they recommend? As to the first part, that is absolutely my goal too. When I called, I was on wait for a long time and late in the afternoon. Maybe i gave TMI, but I mentioned I prefer blade-like putters and have a small (might be mid) arc and for years played a ping B60, which I have 2 inter-related complaints: 1) on long putts occasionally get miss hits, and 2) the head is small and feels too light (he looked it up, it’s 350g). Long putts, because of the light head, requires a long stroke. IMO, the mishits occur due to a longer backstroke and likely at impact the club is raised above the ground causing some impact along the edge of the insert. I said I was interested in the 001 and liked the fact it is milled and solid without any insert. The past few months, I reverted back to a very old Nicklaus blade and the mishits all but eliminated, just not feeling it. He looked up the ping, etc. Soooo….then said it’s hard to tell why I’m getting toe and heel mishits. I said the mishits I’m referring to are at the edge of the bottom edge of the insert. (Not dismissing some could be off center too). Anyways, he suggested I look at a mid-mallet. I asked for an example and he mentioned 005, and to tryout different style putters at a local store, which I intend to do. All comments here have been educational for me so ty. berkeleybob and cnosil 2 Quote Driver: Fusion, 9 deg, UST Recoil 450 ES F3/2 430 MAX 4w (5w head delofted 1* with 3w shaft), 7w, 5h w/ Alta CB Soft Regular shaft JPX923 HM 6i - GW w/ UST Recoil 460 ESX F3 RTX6 52* and 56* with Recoil 760 ESX F2 Versa DB DoubleWide : Z-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, GaryF said: which I have 2 inter-related complaints: 1) on long putts occasionally get miss hits, and 2) the head is small and feels too light (he looked it up, it’s 350g). Sounds like you got some basic information and based on the suggestion mid mallet style is probably a good option. As suggested, now go hit a bunch of different models and see what works. The 005 is probably a good suggestion based on what you wrote. It is definitely heavy; way too heavy for me since I tend to prefer lighter putters. GaryF, berkeleybob and MattF 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckZ Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 If you are seeking a heavy putter then the Sub70 might be your anser, it comes in at 380grms and they run around $159. Other lesser expensive Anser style putter by Cleveland weighting 345grams, at $149-199 on line at Carl's Golfland 345grms and $199-249 PGA Superstore, which their heaviest is 370grms. Cleveland has a great reputation for making golf clubs and have some Anser style putters with milled faces that might meet your needs. Might want to give them a look. I have the Ping PLD Anser Premium Milled Putter and absolutely love it. On faster greens it is awesome at any distance. I am tall and had it delofted 1* flat. The weight on it is 350grms. These are a bit more expensive ($449), but with it's performance, I find it to my liking. Am not one that buys every club that comes along. Find one that I like and work on it. GaryF, berkeleybob and MattF 3 Quote Driver - TSi3 10.75* - Fujikura Speeder 661 TR Fairway - TSi2 14.25* - Fujikura Motore Speeder VC 6.1 Fairway - TSR1 17.0* - Fujikura Vista Pro 65S Hybrid - TSR1 19.0* - Fujikura Atmos Red Tour 75 Hybrid - TSR1 23.0* - Fujikura Atmos Red Tour 75 Irons - T350 (2023) - 5-48W - True Temper AMT Red 95g-107g Wedges - Vokey SM9 - 52.08F, 56.10S - True Temper AMT Red 94 ** GolfPride MCC +4 Midsize Grips (all woods/irons/wedges) Putter - 2023 Scotty Cameron Super Select Squareback 2 35" ** Superstroke 1.0 Pistol Grip Golf Ball - TITLEIST - Prov1 (2023) Golf Bags - TITLEIST - Cart 14 (black), Mid Size Tour (black/white) Golf Glove - FootJoy (StaSof), Shoes, Apparel and Outerwear Rangefinder - Bushnell Pro XE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mybluc4 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 This reminds me of the Bruce Sizemore SB-2 Blade. The face, like the Sub70, is a beautifully milled design that gets the ball rolling true. The feel and workmanship is terrific. Sizemore's quality is absolutely top notch. Would put the quality of this fine putter up against Bettinardi, Epic, Miura, Piretti, TP Mills, Byron Morgan, any of them. "Its smooth blend of angles combined with tiered flanges, and centered mid-size plumber’s neck provide additional assistance when focusing on the sight line." Sizemore's signature cross milled face finish ensures a true roll and does not deflect a ball off-line as with other milled surfaces. Original design that has a unique look and feel • Highest level of craftsmanship and construction • Tolerances less than 1/1000 of an inch • Tip-Stiff shaft technology for maximum stability • IND-X™ face finishes guarantee the flattest putting surface • 3-D optical design for superior alignment." from Golf Review MuniGolfer and MattF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fetch29 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Obviously the fit comes down to the individual -I picked up an 007 (8802-style blade) for fun more than anything. It's a touch softer than other 303 SSS putters I've used, in my opinion at least. Build quality is fantastic. The closest comparable that comes to mind (feel, weight, comparable build quality) is a SIK DW Swept Neck that I parted with last year. Both on the heavier side, and I found them both to be a bit softer than my typical gamers (Scotty Futura X5 from 2013ish, replaced with an x9.5 last year). I think the Sub70 steel is a bit softer before any milling, but could be wrong. Still firmer than anything with an insert. Overall the very solid, while not being clicky, if that makes sense. Quote Driver: Cobra LTDx @ 8* w/ Fujikura Speeder Evo Tour Spec 3w: Taylormade SLDR TS 14* w/ Speeder 757 3hy: Callaway Mavrik Pro 20* w/ KBS Hybrid Irons (4-P): ZX5/ZX7 combo w/Modus 120 Wedge: Vokey SM8 50-08F, 54-10S, 58-08M w/ DG S200 Putter: Scotty Cameron Futura X5 Ball: Bridgestone Tour B-XS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterT Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 I play the Sub70 Sycamore 002 - the mid-mallet and love it. What I needed was a heavier head than you can find in most putters and this does the trick for me. GaryF 1 Quote TaylorMade Stealth2+ 9° - Fujikura Ventus Black VeloCore 5-S TaylorMade M5 15° - Fujikura Ventus Black VeloCore 6-S Callaway CF-18 18° - KBS Tour Prototype 85 S Srixon 4-AW Nippon Modus 3 105 R Cleveland ZipCore 54° Mid and 58° Mid DG Spinner Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2 35" Titleist Pro V1 Arccos Gen 3 sensors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryF Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 3 hours ago, ChuckZ said: If you are seeking a heavy putter then the Sub70 might be your anser, it comes in at 380grms and they run around $159. Other lesser expensive Anser style putter by Cleveland weighting 345grams, at $149-199 on line at Carl's Golfland 345grms and $199-249 PGA Superstore, which their heaviest is 370grms. Cleveland has a great reputation for making golf clubs and have some Anser style putters with milled faces that might meet your needs. Might want to give them a look. I have the Ping PLD Anser Premium Milled Putter and absolutely love it. On faster greens it is awesome at any distance. I am tall and had it delofted 1* flat. The weight on it is 350grms. These are a bit more expensive ($449), but with it's performance, I find it to my liking. Am not one that buys every club that comes along. Find one that I like and work on it. Thanks for pointing Cleveland out. I was just looking online at pgatss and they have a nice full line of 10 Cleveland styles ranging from classical blade, wide blade (similar to the 007) to you name it. This would give me the best side-by-side comparison. Closest store is 1 1/2 hrs away but will stop by next visit to my daughter. Quote Driver: Fusion, 9 deg, UST Recoil 450 ES F3/2 430 MAX 4w (5w head delofted 1* with 3w shaft), 7w, 5h w/ Alta CB Soft Regular shaft JPX923 HM 6i - GW w/ UST Recoil 460 ESX F3 RTX6 52* and 56* with Recoil 760 ESX F2 Versa DB DoubleWide : Z-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryF Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 3 hours ago, mybluc4 said: This reminds me of the Bruce Sizemore SB-2 Blade. The face, like the Sub70, is a beautifully milled design that gets the ball rolling true. The feel and workmanship is terrific. Sizemore's quality is absolutely top notch. Would put the quality of this fine putter up against Bettinardi, Epic, Miura, Piretti, TP Mills, Byron Morgan, any of them. "Its smooth blend of angles combined with tiered flanges, and centered mid-size plumber’s neck provide additional assistance when focusing on the sight line." Sizemore's signature cross milled face finish ensures a true roll and does not deflect a ball off-line as with other milled surfaces. Original design that has a unique look and feel • Highest level of craftsmanship and construction • Tolerances less than 1/1000 of an inch • Tip-Stiff shaft technology for maximum stability • IND-X™ face finishes guarantee the flattest putting surface • 3-D optical design for superior alignment." from Golf Review That looks beautiful! So beautiful I’d almost expect it to be a self-putting putter! Quote Driver: Fusion, 9 deg, UST Recoil 450 ES F3/2 430 MAX 4w (5w head delofted 1* with 3w shaft), 7w, 5h w/ Alta CB Soft Regular shaft JPX923 HM 6i - GW w/ UST Recoil 460 ESX F3 RTX6 52* and 56* with Recoil 760 ESX F2 Versa DB DoubleWide : Z-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Played a couple rounds with the 006 - its a classic mid-mallet shape but made for medium / strong arc putts. Overall, I LOVED the quality / weight of the putter, but decided on a Scotty Phantom instead. If I was in the market for a new putter, I wouldn't hesitate to try them out (they have an INCREDIBLE return policy)! OdinSnipes414 and berkeleybob 1 1 Quote Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge/Testing Bag (Link Here) Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-GW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Jaws Raw Plasma 54 & 58 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Other Reviews: Callaway Paradym Titleist White Box Testing (2023) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacesr4suckers Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 I had an odyssey mallet the last two years and midway through last summer I got the putting yips worse than I’ve ever seen anyone have. Obviously not the putter’s fault but mentally I wanted to reset with something completely different so I got the sub 70 007 and from the first round this year I’m putting better than I have in my 20 years of golfing. I don’t see me taking that out of the bag anytime soon MattF 1 Quote Me winning isn’t, you do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rx1232 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 They are offering graphite/steel composite shaft upgrades for $12 right now for putters btw. I was in the market for a new putter and ordered one with that. Quote rx1232 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschott Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 On 3/24/2023 at 12:04 PM, CFreddie said: Played a couple rounds with the 006 - its a classic mid-mallet shape but made for medium / strong arc putts. Overall, I LOVED the quality / weight of the putter, but decided on a Scotty Phantom instead. If I was in the market for a new putter, I wouldn't hesitate to try them out (they have an INCREDIBLE return policy)! I just picked up one of these on the used rack at an Edwin Watts store of $99. Played my first round with it today and had no 3 putts. It didn't come with the weight kit and had the 10 gram weights in it, great feel and distance control. Now have to decide between it and the FN001. Quote Driver-Sub70 849D 3 wood-Sub70 939X 5 wood-Callaway Rogue 4 hybrid-Tour Edge EXS 220 irons-Sub70 699 V2 irons wedges-Sub70 JB wedges, 50, 54, 58 putter-Sub 70 FN 001 with Evenroll Gravity Grip Ball-OnCore Elixir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCPA Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I have a 002 Mid Mallet, but it's not in the bag at the moment. It's very heavy as is - 390g. Pretty sure all of their putters are beefy on the swing scale. So, if weight is what you need, Sub70 is definitely a place to look. Quote Stealth 2 Plus 10.5* driver G425 14.5*, 17.5* FWs G425 22* hybrid i230 irons, 5 - W Glide 4.0 S 50*, 54*, 58* wedges EV 5.3 33" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbern Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I recently got the Sub70 AL-6 armlock putter and it's the nicest putter I've ever owned. I just put an unofficial review up about it at the link below. It's a great looking putter and I got a pretty good deal on it from the Sub 70 pre-owned putter site. I wanted to dip my toes into the world of armlock and this was a great way for me to go. @GaryF, what did you end up going with for your putter? Quote WITB (link to detailed post here): Driver: LTDx 9* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) Fairway metals: 3W TSR2 14.25* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) | 5W Gen4 0341XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75 S) Hybrid: 4H Gen4 0317XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75HY S) Irons: 659 CB 5-AW (Project X Rifle 6.0) Wedges: 286 54* & 58* (KBS Tour 120 S) Putter: AL-6 armlock | Unofficial review here Ball: pro drip: red & blue | Tour S Pushcart: 4.0 | '23 MGS Clicgear 4.0 Pushcart Tester | Link here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryF Posted August 31, 2023 Author Share Posted August 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, jbern said: I recently got the Sub70 AL-6 armlock putter and it's the nicest putter I've ever owned. I just put an unofficial review up about it at the link below. It's a great looking putter and I got a pretty good deal on it from the Sub 70 pre-owned putter site. I wanted to dip my toes into the world of armlock and this was a great way for me to go. @GaryF, what did you end up going with for your putter? I ended up going with the Oddesey Versa Double Wide. One of our courses has a full line of Versa demos that we could check out. Interesting that my ‘preferred look’ of a putter was a blade, but after trying several of the Versa’s, I visually started to prefer the mid mallet look. Whenever I looked a Sub70s, they were on back order and they never seemed to have any demos to try out. I did make a few pgatss trips and spent a lot of time in those sessions. The store in Altamonte FL actually pulled out ‘SAM’ and did an impromptu putting analysis. The result was I needed a mild toe hang. When I got back to GA, I checked out the aforementioned Versa DoubleWide. The results were good and checked it out 4 times. I really wanted to try the Ping DS72, but it was always out of stock at pgatss. I finally pulled the trigger on the Versa and was on sale for about $240. My putting has improved dramatically. Long putts are rarely an issue and my 3-puts have almost disappeared. Missed 3 foot putts are a thing of the past. The extra weight and balanced feel let the club do its job and being ‘handsy’ is no longer an issue and for the first time I actually feel confident when putting. Quote Driver: Fusion, 9 deg, UST Recoil 450 ES F3/2 430 MAX 4w (5w head delofted 1* with 3w shaft), 7w, 5h w/ Alta CB Soft Regular shaft JPX923 HM 6i - GW w/ UST Recoil 460 ESX F3 RTX6 52* and 56* with Recoil 760 ESX F2 Versa DB DoubleWide : Z-Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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