Popular Post Aotearoa_Brad Posted February 3, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted February 3, 2015 MG Golf Tour C4 Often you get manufacturers, big and small, making bold claims about their products, but it’s not often that they have the stats to back it up. Sometimes the claims are half-truths, or completely true depending on certain word definitions... MG Golf are very proud of their Tour C4 ball, and are not shy about touting it as delivering “MORE carry, MORE total distance, and similar wedge spin, compared to the Pro V1!” I wouldn't necessarily say that I'm a sceptic, but I have been burned with my own experiences not measuring up to manufacturers claims previously, so I guess you could call me a 'cautious optimist'. At first glance the MG Golf website does come across as pretty basic and with a bit of an infomercial look, so my heckles were raised a little, but at $19.99/dzn, I thought it’d be rude not to see how the MG Tour C4 performs for me. Tour C4 Specs: Long distance, straight drives. The aerodynamic 332-dimple design and the extra-large core give you longer and straighter drives with low spin! High-velocity core = more distance. We reformulated the extra-large core amping up ball velocity to the extreme making the Tour C4 go farther than ever! High spin, soft feel with short irons. Like the Pro V1, the Tour C4 urethane cover (not Surlyn® like an ordinary ball) gives you high spin and a very soft feel close to the green and without sacrificing durability! Conforms with USGA rules. So it's legal for tournament play. Claims: Better Carry than the ProV1 Better overall distance than the ProV1 Comparable wedge spin to the ProV1 As accurate as the ProV1 Trackman Results I wasn’t going to be able to replicate the test that MG Golf did on the range, but I did manage to get a little time on the Trackman to measure the same metrics that they’d based their claims on. My numbers below are based on 5 good swings for each ball with both Driver (Carry and Total Distance numbers) and my 60 degree wedge (Wedge Spin). FWIW I'm not certain what loft wedge MG Golf used in their test. The Trackman numbers for me showed a similar pattern to what MG Golf found in their testing: slightly higher carry and total distance with the MG Tour slightly lower wedge spin On Course With my wife and kids away over the last few weeks I have been able to get out more often than normal. I played two rounds using both ProV1 and Tour C4 side by side, and one more round with a Srixon Z-Star and Tour C4 side-by-side. All three I found to perform really well for me. Very little difference off the tee, and I think the biggest difference I found was from 100-yards to 40-yards from the green. The MG Tour C4 basically wanted to stop where it pitched, whereas both the ProV1 and Z-Star consistently hopped once then stopped. Considering the Tour C4 slightly lower spin numbers this is a little strange, but it wouldn't be the first time I've been accused of being a freak of nature. Intrigued by the first round of ball testing #inforreview #watchthisspace $20/doz tour level spin? Is it possible? #mygolfspy A photo posted by Brad Clarke (@golfspybrad) on Jan 2, 2015 at 4:40pm PST Putting I'm not really going to be much help to anyone here - I don't find a lot of difference between balls with putting. I find it difficult to perceptively give an opinion on whether a ball is clicky, firm, etc. The graphics are a little busy on the ball, but I do like the long putting guide on the Tour C4. Durability Excellent. I recently purchased non-confirming Sonartec wedges and was really interested in whether they would cut up the ball, but used the same ball for two rounds and haven't found any noticeable scarring as yet. I usually change balls every round anyway, so for my uses these are great. Overall I can confidently say that, for me anyway, these are performing as advertised. I haven't tried any of the other smaller-brand or lower cost 'tour performance' balls on the market, but I can say that if you're looking for tour-level performance, and don't want to pay tour-level price, then definitely give these a try. For $19.99/dozen, these represent real value in my opinion. MG Golf website --- While not necessarily an in-depth review, my experience with these balls has been really positive. I know that there are a few other forum members who have tried out these balls at various times, so I'd really value your overall and/or specific thoughts on the MG Golf tour C4. MattF, GolfSpy Barbajo, azstu324 and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeasy Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Great review! Quote <p><strong>D:</strong> 9* G400 Max w/Xcalibur TSL</p><p> </p><p><strong>F: </strong> 14* XR Pro 16 w/Hzrdous Red</p><p><strong>I:</strong> SLS-01 4-SW w/Paderson SL</p><p><strong>W:</strong> DGR 59 w/Dynamic Gold SL</p><p><strong>P:</strong> Artisan 0318 or Edel TB</p><p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbil8802 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I'm intrigued. I might have to try these out. Quote Driver - M1 9.5* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 70X Fairway - M1 5W 19* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 70X Hybrids - G25 4H 23* Irons - JPX 850 Forged 4-PW w/ Nippon N.S. Pro 1150S Wedges - S5 50*07, 54*12, 58*12 w/ Nippon N.S. Pro 1150S Putter - Oddyssey Metal-X #7 w/ SuperStroke Pistol GT 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongy5 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Any test done on the new snell golf ball? Dean snell from taylormade seems to have his own ball company. Quote Titleist 910 7.5 driver,callaway 48,56 degree wedges.ping g irons 5-pw purple dot.19,21 degree titleist 913 hybrids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbealsd Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Thanks, this re enforces what I've heard and I need to order some myself, the next time I'm ready to re-stock. Quote What's In the Bag Driver - GBB Hybrids Halo XL Halo 18* & T-Rail 20* Irons T-Rail 2.0 Wedges 60* TS / SCOR 48* 53* 58* Putter Ball Bag Datrek DG Lite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBones Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 "Iron Pythons"......I'm rolling. Great review. Quote Follow @GolfspyBones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP The Dansome Posted February 4, 2015 SPY VIP Share Posted February 4, 2015 Excellent review Quote Yo #JustPlayBetter Follow @GolfSpyMBP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aotearoa_Brad Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 "Iron Pythons"......I'm rolling. Great review. what ... what... what's so funny... wbealsd 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Way to go Brad. Good review with stats to back it up. As some of you may know I've commented (crowed) about the MG Tour C4 a few times. It really is a great ball. Like GS Brad I too experienced the type of spin stopping power he described. I didn't have any data to back up my earlier claims but I could just tell the ball was a winner. As for putting; the C4 feels great to me. No difference than a PV1 that I could tell. fozcycle and wbealsd 2 Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Great analysis Brad. I have found them to be exceptionally durable and perform admirably. Plaid, I also game the MG gloves, although the Bionic is my go to glove. Quote Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER2 w/Gravity Grip or ER6 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip or Tommy Armour Impact No. 3 Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Bridgestone RXS Mindset, Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 I decided take the glove off my earlier post. This is a ball review. I'll post a short review on the MG Gloves later in the week. Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACcustomX Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Nice Review! I still haven't really been wowed by a ball yet. Started out last season playing the Z-Stars, ended up going back to Bridgestones (E6 on cooler days and practice rounds B330-RX for tournament's). I really like the B-series balls. But, they're pricy! Definitely going to have to give these a try! Quote Driver: XTD Ti 9* Matrix Ozik Red Tie s flex Fairway: AMP 15* Aldila RIP s flex Hybrid: 588 Custom 20.5* Matrix Ozik Altus Irons: 2014 Tour Preferred MC 4-pw w/ KBS Tour s flex +1" Wedges: 8620 50*DD w/ KBS Rev, 54* and 58* DD w/ KBS C-Taper Putter: TD-01 True Balance 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undershooter Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Great review Brad! I'm going to have to give these a shot when I run out of zstar xv balls. Quote Driver- Tmag 2017 M2 tour issue 8.5* actual loft 7.8* w/ HZRDS Green PVD 70TX" Fairway Metal- Taylormade SLDR Mini Driver 12* w/ Fujikura Rombax TP95-X" Utility- Mizuno MPH5 1 iron w/ Aldila RIP 85X (depending on course/ conditions) Irons- Mizuno MP- FLI HI 2i w/ Aldila Proto ByYou 100X Mizuno MP59 4i-6I w/ PX 6.5 Mizuno MP69 7i-PW w/ PX 6.5 Wedges- Scratch 8620 Driver/Slider set. 50*, 54* bent to 55* and 60* Putter- Taylormade Spider Tour w/ flow neck Ball- Bridgestone Tour B X Bag- Sun Mountain C130 Supercharged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo42 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Yup, they are a really good ball. Not a better ball, just a good ball. For the price, they're a really good ball Quote TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Theoo Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Good review Brad! Can't say I didn't think of this shirt when I read the iron Pythons line lol Quote Driver: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5 FW: F6 baffler set at 16º Hybrid: NONEIrons: 3i 2014 TP CB 4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400 Wedges: 52º 56º 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped Putter: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aotearoa_Brad Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Hahahaha - nice one Theoo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotblades Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 My pops has been buying the gloves for years. Solid deal. deejaid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Tan Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Just too bad it will probably cost a bomb to ship it to Singapore. Else I'll give them a try. Quote Irons: Miura PP9003 KBS Tour 90 R 5-P Wedges: Miura New Wedge Series 51 Deg, Cobra Tour Trusty 56 Deg Driver: Bridgestone JGR 10.5 with Tour AD J16-11W Reg stock JDM 3 Wood: Bridgestone JGR 3W with Tour AD J16-11W Stiff Reg stock JDM Hybrid: Bridgestone JGR 4H with Tour AD J16-11W Reg stock JDM Putter: Ping Sigma G Kinloch C Right handed, lives in Singapore Playing in the mid 90s and trying my best to break 90 consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattF Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Still have to get my arse in gear and order a couple of dozen. Quote In the bag: Driver: Darkspeed X 9° UST Mamiya LIN-Q M40X Blue 7F4 Fairway: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Fairway 14 stand bag Balls: Chrome Tour X Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hula Rock Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 BONELESS CHICKEN >>>>>>>>>> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! #BULUT Great review.......... ......... I cannot stop laughing...... wbealsd and MGoBlue100 2 Quote Driver: M3 Tensei CK Pro Blue3-Metal:: GBB EPIC, FujiKura Pro Green 5-Metal: F-7, FujiKura Pro Irons: MP-18 SC, KBS Tour 120 Wedges: RTX-3 52 - 56 - 60Putter: EVN-Roll ER-5 Ball : Tour B XS Range Finder: Busnnell Tour-X, Garmin S20 Follow me: @Hula_Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Great review - I've always liked boneless chicken and at that price I might just give it a try - But do you suppose I might have to let it age a bit? Quote Driver: Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 R flex - 44.25 Fairways: Ping G410 5, 7, 9 wood Alta CB red 65 R flex Hybrid: Ping G410 26 degree Alta CB Red 70 R flex Irons: Ping G430 7-PW, 45, 50 Alta CB black 65 soft R flex Wedges: Ping 195 S54, E58 Wedges and irons are - 1/2” and one degree flat Putter: Sacks Parente Duke 32.5” Ball: Titleist Pro VI or Callaway Chrome Soft X ls While not at the same time I was fit for every club in my bag as well as the Pro VI ball. I use the chrome soft x ls on my league course. It has much softer softer greens than the club that I belong to. I’m on a mission to shoot my age - lifetime lowest round is 66 and I’m currently 67. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeasy Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Great review - I've always liked boneless chicken and at that price I might just give it a try - But do you suppose I might have to let it age a bit? I like my boneless chicken like I like my steak. Aged and medium rare. Quote <p><strong>D:</strong> 9* G400 Max w/Xcalibur TSL</p><p> </p><p><strong>F: </strong> 14* XR Pro 16 w/Hzrdous Red</p><p><strong>I:</strong> SLS-01 4-SW w/Paderson SL</p><p><strong>W:</strong> DGR 59 w/Dynamic Gold SL</p><p><strong>P:</strong> Artisan 0318 or Edel TB</p><p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCLeo12 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Interesting review. I have been gaming the Ariva AR-3 and love it after playing the ProV1x for the last 10+ years. I also am very interested in the new Snell Ball so I pre-ordered a dozen for when the ship in March. I also really liked the 3up 3F12 but for me it wasnt as durable as I would like. Quote Ping G410 LST 10.5 set -1* Flat Accra TZ5 65 M5 Callaway Epic Flash 15* set -1 Aldila ATX Blue 75TX Ben Hogan FT Worth Hi 19* KBS Tour V X Ben Hogan PTX Pro 4-P KBS Tour V X 2* Flat 4* loft increments Hogan Equalizer 50* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 X 2* Flat Hogan Equalizer 56* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 2* Flat Hogan Equalizer 62* KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 2* Flat EVNROLL ER7 P2 Aware Tour Scotty Cameron Newport2 Buttonback P2 Aware Tour Grip Snell MTB-X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chal Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Nice Review. I ordered a dozen to give a try. If anything they sound like a great ball when traveling or at the beginning and end of season. Look forward to trying these out. Quote Driver: Taylormade SIM 8^ Shaft: Evolution III 6X 3 Wood: Titleist TSi3 13.5^ Shaft: Project X Smoke Black RDX 6.5 2 Hybrid: Callaway Mavrik Pro Shaft: Project X EvenFlow Black 85X 3/5 Hybrid: Titleist 816 H2 Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana Whiteboard 85X Irons: Taylormade P790 Shaft: UST Recoil 110 S (6-PW) 50 Degree: Taylormade P770 Shaft: UST Recoil 110 S 55/60: Cleveland RTX Zipcore Shaft: DG Spinner Tour Issue Putter: Bettinardi MK Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RookieBlue7 Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Here's my review from 2010 http://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/2591-master-grip-tour-c4-urethane/?fromsearch=1 W.J Bosley 1 Quote In The BagDriver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400 SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerLW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerXW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger steppedPutter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chal Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Rookie, Just out of curiosity. Do you still use the balls? Quote Driver: Taylormade SIM 8^ Shaft: Evolution III 6X 3 Wood: Titleist TSi3 13.5^ Shaft: Project X Smoke Black RDX 6.5 2 Hybrid: Callaway Mavrik Pro Shaft: Project X EvenFlow Black 85X 3/5 Hybrid: Titleist 816 H2 Shaft: Mitsubishi Diamana Whiteboard 85X Irons: Taylormade P790 Shaft: UST Recoil 110 S (6-PW) 50 Degree: Taylormade P770 Shaft: UST Recoil 110 S 55/60: Cleveland RTX Zipcore Shaft: DG Spinner Tour Issue Putter: Bettinardi MK Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RookieBlue7 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Occasionally. They're a ProV1 competitor and I play the ProV1x (or similar, I prefer the Lethal). Though when I do it's in the winter when it's cold and the golf balls get harder. Quote In The BagDriver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400 SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerLW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerXW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger steppedPutter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGoBlue100 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Great review. I'm pretty flush with golf balls right now (Thanks Santa!!) but will definitely try these. The Trackman numbers are the ticket. Appreciate you doing all this work! Quote "Where'd it go?" "Right in the Lumberyard..." Gen 2 0811 XF 10.5* Graphite Design Tour AD DI-6x Gen 2 0211 15* 3W Mitsubishi Tensei Raw Blue 65-S Tour B JGR 15* Fairway UST ProForce V2 7F5 76g X-Flex (These two are gonna fight it out in early "24 to see who stays in the bag...) Tour B JGR 19* & 22* Hybrid UST ProForce V2 90g X-Flex Tour B JGR HF-2 irons (5i - PW) KBS Tour 130x CBX Wedges (50, 54, 58) TT Dynamic Gold 115 Wedge Shaft MATI Mamo Putter 33" Super Stroke Football League 3.0 Slim Hoofer Camo Stand Bag Precision Pro Nexus Rangefinder FAN! PRO Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.J Bosley Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 This was the original disrupter in the premium urethane ball area ,,,, why didn't it get more recognition. I believe they should have done the reviews etc much earlier to make their case and or the market today is more open to playing a non Tour validated design ,,,,, I find it all quite interesting though and it will be but one of a large number of similar bargain performance balls to hit your market. fozcycle 1 Quote Vision Golf Ball Concepts & Designs by The Atanak Co Australia (1980 - 2016) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 I know I got an eagle with a C4 ......175 yard 5 Wood for my second shot on a par 4. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy W.J Bosley and PlaidJacket 2 Quote Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER2 w/Gravity Grip or ER6 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip or Tommy Armour Impact No. 3 Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Bridgestone RXS Mindset, Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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