Popular Post chisag Posted June 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2020 … I always find it amusing when someone says “If drivers were longer and better every year, I would be hitting it 500 yds by now!” Golfers don’t buy new drivers every year, they buy them when they are ready to upgrade. That might be every 10 years, every 5 years and for some, sooner than that. I was so impressed with the performance of my Cobra Speedback F9 last season, I just could not see playing anything else in 2020. Would the new Cobra Speedzone be that much better than my F9 Speedback? Again, I was so pleased with my Speedback F9 I was probably not going to find out. But then Cobra informed me they were releasing a Speedzone Xtreme driver that was forgiving. Xtremely forgiving. Who was I kidding? I was all in. … I do not envy any OEMs that are trying to appease golfers with sound and feel. One players explosive cannon is another players empty tin trash can and a wonderfully dense, muted driver can be dead feeling and sounding to another. For me, it just didn’t get any better than the sound and feel of the F9 which has that dense and muted sound and feel. The Xtreme is a little more modern sounding/feeling but without that explosive high pitched sound. Certainly not loud or tinny, but just the right amount of the modern sound that lets you know you have hit a big drive. I think Cobra nailed the sound and feel with a great compromise and it should appeal to a wide range of players. … The USGA sets limits for CT which measures the amount of spring like effect the club face can legally produce. CT stands for Characteristic Time, a measurement of how fast the ball comes off the face of a club. The springier the club face is, the farther the golf ball can fly and all OEMs basically now have the same CT so it is as close to the limit as possible. Engineering a driver that produces more distance has to be accomplished in other ways. Cobra has done that with speed and identified 6 Speed Zones to optimize driver speed. … The 1st speed zone is the Infinity Milled face and this is Cobra’s 3rd year utilizing a milled face on their driver. This year they have taken this technology another step forward with a fully milled wrap around face. Judging a club by early photo’s is never a good idea but we are all guilty of being excited about a sneak peek at a new offering. I was admittedly leery of the wrap around face coming up onto the crown, because in early photo’s it looked like it might be distracting at address. But to my surprise, it was not a distraction at all and seeing it in person I immediately thought it looks really good and on the course it actually aids in club head alignment. I think we should always judge a club by how it looks next to a ball on the golf course. This fully milled face expands the area for maximum ball speed when missing the center of the face. I would add the milling process makes the face up to 5 times more precise than hand polishing. A nice bonus is you can see where your ball makes face contact on every shot, a feature I find very helpful while playing. You can leave the marks for the entire round to see how you make contact for the day or you can wipe it after every drive. … The 2nd is from the Titanium T-Bar Speed Chasis. A titanium bar that extends from the top of the crown to the rear of the head creating a stronger frame that can stand up to the most powerful swings as well as improving stability. The 3rd comes from using 10% more carbon fiber that wraps around the head adding stiffness to the chasis. This wrap around carbon fiber covers 50% of the body and allows the engineers to utilize 25gms in a more ideal location to improve launch and forgiveness. Speed Zone Weighting is the 4th, utilizing 69gms of mass that is positioned as low as possible promoting a higher launch with lower spin, ideal for a combination of distance and forgiveness. Speedback Aero Shape is number 5. Cobra engineers are always looking to refine aerodynamics and with the Speedzone driver they have streamlined the shape even more and along with the milled perimeter leading edges, airflow is maximized with the potential for increased acceleration. Gone are the Speed Trips and the crown is cleaner and looks awesome at address. The last speed zone comes from the High MOI Design. Weight is strategically positioned around the perimeter creating an amazingly forgiving driver head when missing the center. In fact, My Golf Spy named the Xtreme the most forgiving driver this year and after just a few rounds I found myself in complete agreement. … These 6 speed zone optimizations create a driver that finds the fairway more than any driver I have ever played. Last year I saw a 5-7 yard gain with the Speeback F9 and while I only have a small sample size in 2020, the Xtreme may not add any more distance, but for me at least it is more forgiving which means consistently longer drives on average and more fairways hit. When my back is stiff, my miss tends to be a little toward the toe, not only losing distance but it usually results in a push that moves even further right. With the Xtreme I find the distance loss is minimal and the ball starts less right and does not move further right. I have had several big drives on the right side of the fairway that I thought would be penalized more based on my swing and how contact felt, confirmed when looking at the milled face and seeing the ball mark toward the toe. Those of you that have hit or play the F9 know it is no slouch in the forgiveness category, and this just shows you the Xtreme driver is amazingly forgiving. … The Xtreme produces the highest MOI of any driver Cobra has ever offered. Which as most of you know is a fancy way of saying it is their most forgiving driver. Considering how forgiving the Fly Z is, that is quite an accomplishment. According to Cobra, the Xtreme is ideal for golfers in the 10 - 25 index player, but I think many with a lower index will find the combination of mid to low spin and Xtreme forgiveness just too good to pass up. As a + index player I will be keeping it in my bag because it is the most forgiving driver I have ever played. Forgiveness equals more confidence and confident swings produce more distance and better accuraccy. Offered in 9.5* and 10.5* the Xtreme gives players options to provide the best combination of spin and trajectory for their swing. I also love that it comes in a 12* head, a great option for seniors, ladies, those with slow swing speeds or some that battle too low of a trajectory. And I tip my cap to Cobra again for the MyFly adaptor that works with shafts going all the way back to the Fly Z. Those of us that use high end shafts know the frustration of buying a new driver and finding out that expensive shaft you were fitted into doesn’t work in your new driver. Some of the labeling on the adaptor has changed, but the concept is identical and if your shaft fit your Fly Z, F6, F7, F8 or F9 it will also fit your Speedzone or Xtreme. … Club Fitters know more than a few golfers perform better with a shorter than standard shaft and to my knowledge Cobra is the only OEM to offer their Tour Length option. All things considered, your longest drives are not produced by longer shafts. Your longest drives are produced by hitting the center of the face. And for many players a shorter shaft makes it easier to hit the center consistently. Called Tour Length because players on Tour know this and play shorter drivers than most retail offerings and find their best combination of distance and accuracy is achieved with a shorter shaft. Byshortening the shaft length and adding a heavier weight low and to the rear, the Tour Length increases MOI and is even more forgiving. I have never played a driver any longer than 44.5” and that is exactly what is offered in the Xtreme Tour Length driver. It might be a Special Order as some retail stores do not stock Tour Length so ask your Sales Associate or Club Pro about ordering one. And of course Cobra’s Tour Length can also be ordered directly through Cobra’s website. … The Xtreme is offered in a Gloss Black/Yellow or a Matte Black/White. I think the Matte Black and White head is just stunning. A small matching colored chevron on the crown for alignment is subtle and a classy touch. The Xtreme is offered with premium stock shafts including the UST Helium 4 or 5, a lightweight shaft for distance with great feel and stability. Tensei CK AV Blue, a very popular shaft with coated fibers in the butt end to improve stability and stiffness with lower torque than previous models while maintaining its smooth feel profile. Project X HZRDUS Smoke Yellow, a counter balanced design allowing for more mass in the club head to increase ball speed and a higher MOI. The Aldila Rogue Silver 110 features a stiff tip for the stronger player producing a mid to low launch with low spin. As a no charge option the Xtreme can also be ordered with two of my favorite shafts from last season as well. The Fujikura ATMOS Tour Spec Blue 6 is a midweight shaft ideal for medium to faster swing speeds seeking a mid-launch, mid-spin profile in Regular and Stiff flexes and the ATMOS Tour Spec Black 7 with a stouter and heavier profile that is ideal for faster swing speeds seeking low-launch and low-spin in Stiff and X-Stiff. Cobra offers quite a few more ultra premium shafts offered at a reduced cost like the Ventus Blue/Black/Red, Tensei Pro Orange/White and most every Graphite Design AD shaft. … If you are in the market for a new driver this year, I highly recommend the Xtreme. In fact even if you are not in the market, I highly recommend at least demoing the Xtreme if you could use more forgiveness, and really who can't? The Xtreme is priced at $449 compared to most OEM drivers at $499 or higher. That makes the most forgiving and consistently longest driver I have ever played a bargain and something you should really experience yourself. https://www.cobragolf.com/speedzone-xtreme-tour-length-driver AmishJason, daviddvm, downlowkey and 20 others 23 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r Irons: P770 5-pw ... Steelfiber i80r TP UDi 4 ... Steelfiber i80r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... 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Miketheripper Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 The Cobra King extreme is definitely a driver I've been looking at, as an older golfer with a mid handicap, I don't see a lot of difference in distance between most drivers. I mainly need something that's going to stay in the fairway, and this club seems to fit the bill. Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk cksurfdude, chisag, braveheart and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Good info! Makes me want one (of course .. duh..) Curious, tho - you mentioned the milled face leaves a ball mark .. does that imply that the milling grooves and ridges may be causing extra wear to the cover of the ball.? downlowkey, daviddvm and chisag 3 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym AI Smoke Max (Grafalloy ProLaunch Blue 45/A*) 3W...Callaway Bertha Mini 1.5 (ProForce V2 HL 5F3) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha '19 (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) SW, LW...Mizuno ES21 54-08, 60-06 (KBS Hi Rev 2.0) Putter...MLA Tour XDream or EvnRoll ER5 ...all in a Bag Boy hybrid bag on an MGI Zip Navigator. ..ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour/Tour S. Or a found Pro V1/x. * (current) Forum tester for the Newton Motion driver shaft (2024) Forum tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Other tests: MLA putter; Cleveland Hi Bore driver; Ben Hogan hybrids. For Sale in Classifieds: SkyTrak home launch monitor in excellent condition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, cksurfdude said: Good info! Makes me want one (of course .. duh..) Curious, tho - you mentioned the milled face leaves a ball mark .. does that imply that the milling grooves and ridges may be causing extra wear to the cover of the ball.? ... No, good question though and I hadn't even thought of that. But I have used a ball for 2 rounds and it still looked new. It is like a ghost impression that wipes right off. Here is a picture from my F8: GolfSpy_BOS, braveheart, daviddvm and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r Irons: P770 5-pw ... Steelfiber i80r TP UDi 4 ... Steelfiber i80r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Custom 5.1 (no alignment) 33" Ball: '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BOS Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I’m looking forward to testing the Standard Speedzone vs Extreme for the Cobra Connect challenge. I’m 95% sure I’m going tour length as my old G30 was 44.5 and I loved it. I really don’t feel like I gave up ANY distance with it.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk chisag and edingc 2 Quote Qi10 - Terra Forza White | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | G430 3-Hybrid - Kai'li White 80s SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 Mezz Max | Pro V1x | Vortex Blade | Ghost Maverick Black Ops - Forum Edition | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchiller Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 I love the look of this driver. I was a bit bummed it didn't produce the results at my fitting last month for me to spend the dough on it. I'm curious if anyone knows the reason behind the milling design on the infinity face? It seemed like on previous versions there was a rhyme or reason to the milling design. Now, all of a sudden they've milled an infinity sign in the middle of the face. Looks badass, but does it not effect performance? chisag and GolfSpy_BOS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BOS Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 I love the look of this driver. I was a bit bummed it didn't produce the results at my fitting last month for me to spend the dough on it. I'm curious if anyone knows the reason behind the milling design on the infinity face? It seemed like on previous versions there was a rhyme or reason to the milling design. Now, all of a sudden they've milled an infinity sign in the middle of the face. Looks badass, but does it not effect performance? I think the idea was that the milling continues as the face transitions to the top like an infinity pool and its all milled. That’s what I think of anyway.And secondly because its infinity yards further than every other driver! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Miketheripper 1 Quote Qi10 - Terra Forza White | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | G430 3-Hybrid - Kai'li White 80s SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 Mezz Max | Pro V1x | Vortex Blade | Ghost Maverick Black Ops - Forum Edition | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, mchiller said: I love the look of this driver. I was a bit bummed it didn't produce the results at my fitting last month for me to spend the dough on it. I'm curious if anyone knows the reason behind the milling design on the infinity face? It seemed like on previous versions there was a rhyme or reason to the milling design. Now, all of a sudden they've milled an infinity sign in the middle of the face. Looks badass, but does it not effect performance? ... The Infinity symbol is cosmetic and as you aptly described "looks badass" and remind everyone the milling covers an infinity of the face and then some. The milling itself has nothing to do with ball interaction and has everything to do with a uniform face thickness so theoretically every driver is the same and off center performnce is optimized because there are no thicker or thinner spots on the face. . AmishJason and GolfSpy_BOS 2 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r Irons: P770 5-pw ... Steelfiber i80r TP UDi 4 ... Steelfiber i80r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Custom 5.1 (no alignment) 33" Ball: '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishJason Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 I have a regular Speedzone as a demo club right now and the face provides a lot of feedback. I can actually feel when a shot is more towards the heel or toe and it's not a jarring sensation when a shot comes almost completely off the heel. I left the wrench at home, so I'll need to head back sometime soon with the weights swapped and see what that does for me. chisag 1 Quote Driver: Cobra Speedzone 10.5 Mitsubishi AV Blue S flex Wood: Cobra Bio Cell 3-4 Grafalloy Pro Launch Blue (low launch original version) S flex Hybrids: Taylormade GAPR 3 KBS graphite shaft Strata 4 and 5 hybrids R flex Irons: Strata 6-PW R flex Wedges: Texan Classics 52, 56, 60 R flex Putter: Odyssey Red Ball mallet Ball: Srixon Q Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchiller Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 hours ago, chisag said: ... The Infinity symbol is cosmetic and as you aptly described "looks badass" and remind everyone the milling covers an infinity of the face and then some. The milling itself has nothing to do with ball interaction and has everything to do with a uniform face thickness so theoretically every driver is the same and off center performnce is optimized because there are no thicker or thinner spots on the face. . Thanks chisag. I didn't realize the milling had nothing to do with ball interaction. May the badass face continue! chisag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishJason Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Also, @chisag, wasn't trying to hijack your thread, sometimes I lack the ability to withhold my 2 cents. As always, fantastic write up! elvis14 1 Quote Driver: Cobra Speedzone 10.5 Mitsubishi AV Blue S flex Wood: Cobra Bio Cell 3-4 Grafalloy Pro Launch Blue (low launch original version) S flex Hybrids: Taylormade GAPR 3 KBS graphite shaft Strata 4 and 5 hybrids R flex Irons: Strata 6-PW R flex Wedges: Texan Classics 52, 56, 60 R flex Putter: Odyssey Red Ball mallet Ball: Srixon Q Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Milling beyond the face, that will save it from a few sky marks! downlowkey, Miketheripper and AmishJason 3 Quote SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 So @chisag Taking into account your satisfaction with the F9, are the $449 worth the upgrade? I know you didn't gain distance, how does the forgivess translate to fairways found? I can get the F9 for $100 less and wondering if it's worth it. F9 are not available for demo/fitting anymore, so it's a gamble. Quote SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 6 hours ago, AmishJason said: Also, @chisag, wasn't trying to hijack your thread, sometimes I lack the ability to withhold my 2 cents. As always, fantastic write up! ... All good AJ. We're a golf forum community here to share our thoughts about all thing golf. Nolan220 and braveheart 2 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r Irons: P770 5-pw ... Steelfiber i80r TP UDi 4 ... Steelfiber i80r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Custom 5.1 (no alignment) 33" Ball: '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted June 11, 2020 Author Share Posted June 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Kanoito said: So @chisag Taking into account your satisfaction with the F9, are the $449 worth the upgrade? I know you didn't gain distance, how does the forgivess translate to fairways found? I can get the F9 for $100 less and wondering if it's worth it. F9 are not available for demo/fitting anymore, so it's a gamble. ... Kanoito I think that is always an individual call. Good driving sets up a round to go low for a better player and puts a higher index player into a good frame of mind and maybe saves some penalty strokes. I feel safe in saying the Speedzone is not enough of an upgrade over the F9 unless you just want the latest and greatest. But considering the Xtreme is the most forgiving driver Cobra has ever produced it certainly can be worth it. I would also add if you mis big, the Xtreme isn't gonna correct those swings. But if you miss small, like just off the fairway the Xtreme can be well worth it. Of course if you find the F9 long and forgiving enough (because it is both) it is a hard driver to beat. ... Maybe the two most important shots come at the beginning and end of the hole, so having confidence in a driver and a putter is Extremely important (sorry for the pun). I would say 1/2" toward the toe and a little high on the face produces better results with the Xtreme than the F9, at least for me. And further toward the toe is even a bigger difference. I am amazed at how well the Xtreme performs with shots a full inch on the toe, something not unforiegn to me when playing in 25+ winds. I am not losing as many yards, which may be only 5-10 and direction which again might be 5-10 yds. So shots that might be a few yards into the rough with the F9, find the fairway with the Xtreme. And for me, that means more freedom with my swing because I have confidence that I will hit the fairway without subconsciously guiding the ball. Obviously with 5 rounds in a row under par, I am driving the ball better than anytime in my life, although I also had a great driving season when I first put the Fly Z driver in my bag. ... I have heard more than a few players thru the years say they really liked Cobra drivers but the Ping G400 was just too forgiving. Cobra now has a driver that is equally forgiving and as stated in my review MGS gave it the Most Forgiving Driver Award for 2020. JohnSmalls, MaxEntropy, braveheart and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r Irons: P770 5-pw ... Steelfiber i80r TP UDi 4 ... Steelfiber i80r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Custom 5.1 (no alignment) 33" Ball: '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, chisag said: ... Kanoito I think that is always an individual call. Good driving sets up a round to go low for a better player and puts a higher index player into a good frame of mind and maybe saves some penalty strokes. I feel safe in saying the Speedzone is not enough of an upgrade over the F9 unless you just want the latest and greatest. But considering the Xtreme is the most forgiving driver Cobra has ever produced it certainly can be worth it. I would also add if you mis big, the Xtreme isn't gonna correct those swings. But if you miss small, like just off the fairway the Xtreme can be well worth it. Of course if you find the F9 long and forgiving enough (because it is both) it is a hard driver to beat. ... Maybe the two most important shots come at the beginning and end of the hole, so having confidence in a driver and a putter is Extremely important (sorry for the pun). I would say 1/2" toward the toe and a little high on the face produces better results with the Xtreme than the F9, at least for me.And further toward the toe is even a bigger difference. I am amazed at how well the Xtreme performs with shots a full inch on the toe, something not unforiegn to me when playing in 25+ winds. I am not losing as many yards, which may be only 5-10 and direction which again might be 5-10 yds. So shots that might be a few yards into the rough with the F9, find the fairway with the Xtreme. And for me, that means more freedom with my swing because I have confidence that I will hit the fairway without subconsciously guiding the ball. Obviously with 5 rounds in a row under par, I am driving the ball better than anytime in my life, although I also had a great driving season when I first put the Fly Z driver in my bag. ... I have heard more than a few players thru the years say they really liked Cobra drivers but the Ping G400 was just too forgiving. Cobra now has a driver that is equally forgiving and as stated in my review MGS gave it the Most Forgiving Driver Award for 2020. Oh no, for sure. My game is nowhere near yours and obviously mileage may vary. But since the F9 was highly praised by yourself, I was curious about how the change affected YOUR game. Pure interest. Sometimes reading about other people's games helps too! I'm sold, I'm scheduling a fitting soon for the Xtreme elvis14, MaxEntropy, chisag and 1 other 4 Quote SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Rick Shiels - pretty good golfer who has access to every driver imaginable from every OEM - recently put a SZ Extreme in his bag. He was looking for forgiveness and consistency; hitting more fairways w/o losing distance. This seemed to check every box for him. I am really interested in this one and looking forward to hearing how folks get along w/it in their CC IV test. Thanks for sharing the review! JohnSmalls, knightsofnii, braveheart and 6 others 9 Quote Driver- Titleist TSR3 10* Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19* Irons- Titleist 718 AP2 (5i-50*) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Wilson Infinite Grant Park Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 16 hours ago, chisag said: … I always find it amusing when someone says “If drivers were longer and better every year, I would be hitting it 500 yds by now!” I can't imagine anyone saying such a thing. Wait a minute... I've said that. But I don't expect my distance to be 500 yards. I'd settle for 251 or 252!! LOL I'm not in the market for a new driver as I just bagged the EXS about 2 yrs ago and it's a good one. I've always liked and wanted to play a Cobra driver for some reason but haven't yet been able to find one that suits me. My last attempt was the Fly-Z+ but I just couldn't get it right and later gave it to my SIL along with 3 different shafts. He's a scratch player and he loves the Fly-Z. Now chisag is trying to ruin my love for the EXS by posting his review of the King SX. What's a guy to do? MaxEntropy, JohnSmalls and Kanoito 1 2 Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavygolffeels Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Nice review. I really liked the f9 last year. Was a fantastic driver but ultimately went with the G410+ as I found it to be a bit more forgiving. Xtreme is definitely worth trying. chisag and JohnSmalls 2 Quote GARSEN GRIP TESTER Driver: PING G400 MAX, Ventus Blue 6x Woods: COBRA F6 Baffler AD DI 8S Hybrid: CALLAWAY Apex Pro, Ventus Blue 8s Irons: SRIXON ZX5 mk2 5-6, ZX7 mk2 7-PW, Modus 120x Wedges: EDEL 50 C grind, 54 V grind, CLEVELAND 60 RTX6 Low Putter: YES Abbie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Great review, thanks. I tried the SZ yesterday and loved it 90%. The 10% was that I did not like the way it felt when on the down swing however it did have a R flex 45G shaft which is way to light for me. I was not aware of the Extreme so will add it to the list as I need to replace my driver as it has a crack in it. chisag and JohnSmalls 2 Quote Callaway Epic Flash 9 Degree Callaway Epic Flash 3 wood 15 Degree Callaway Epic Hybrid 18 Degree Callaway Apex 21 Hybrid 21Degree Callaway Steelhead Pro 4-AW Irons Volkey 56 Degree Wedge Steel Shaft Recoil Graphite Shafts in all Callaway Cobra Vintage Series Stingray 40 Preferred ball - Titliest Pro V1 OGIO Woodie 15 Bag MCI Zip X3 Electric Buggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Great write up, @chisag. Thanks for doing this. I'll be interested to see if I can find a combo with the Xtreme that fits my swing. I really need all of the forgiveness I can get, but I also tend to generate a lot of spin with my Epic Flash currently. I was think the standard SpeedZone with the weight forward might make those numbers better, but we'll see! JohnSmalls and chisag 2 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 3.6 / Anti-Cap: 9.9 (Last Updated Sept. 1, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Just went to my scheduled fitting today and guess what... the Xtreme was borrowed so I couldn't test it... But I did hit the SZ 9* with Aldila Rogue Silver 60S (gave me the best numbers) vs Titleist, Mizuno, Bridgestone. I purposely told the fitter to skip the Mavrik and SIM, cause I wasn't ready to pay the EUR 500-600 price tag. I was having a bad day with my Epic, spreading all over with about 240 carry and 250 total... with the SZ I was about 250 carry and touching 270 total but with a great shot dispersion. So I thought, maybe it's just a bad day, but that doesn't explain why the Epic sucked compared to the SZ. So I'll give it another shot next week while comparing the SZ with the Xtreme, but I'll most probably buy one of those. chisag, JohnSmalls, GolfSpy_BOS and 1 other 4 Quote SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BOS Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Just went to my scheduled fitting today and guess what... the Xtreme was borrowed so I couldn't test it... But I did hit the SZ 9* with Aldila Rogue Silver 60S (gave me the best numbers) vs Titleist, Mizuno, Bridgestone. I purposely told the fitter to skip the Mavrik and SIM, cause I wasn't ready to pay the EUR 500-600 price tag. I was having a bad day with my Epic, spreading all over with about 240 carry and 250 total... with the SZ I was about 250 carry and touching 270 total but with a great shot dispersion. So I thought, maybe it's just a bad day, but that doesn't explain why the Epic sucked compared to the SZ. So I'll give it another shot next week while comparing the SZ with the Xtreme, but I'll most probably buy one of those.That’s awesome and a big jump from the epic. I wouldn’t expect such a big jump in distance from those two models. What are you using for a shaft in the Epic?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Qi10 - Terra Forza White | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | G430 3-Hybrid - Kai'li White 80s SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 Mezz Max | Pro V1x | Vortex Blade | Ghost Maverick Black Ops - Forum Edition | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, B.Boston said: That’s awesome and a big jump from the epic. I wouldn’t expect such a big jump in distance from those two models. What are you using for a shaft in the Epic? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Aldila Rogue MAX 65S I thought I was pretty much maxed out with the Epic... but the SZ had no dispersion, it was magical. I don't even know if it's testing the Xtreme, according to my fitter, numbers don't get any better than that... I was around 1.48 smash factor... GolfSpy_BOS and chisag 2 Quote SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BOS Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Aldila Rogue MAX 65S I thought I was pretty much maxed out with the Epic... but the SZ had no dispersion, it was magical. I don't even know if it's testing the Xtreme, according to my fitter, numbers don't get any better than that... I was around 1.48 smash factor...That’s great! I’ve seen my drives go from 270ish to 280ish on good level ground shots from my G30 to M5. I’m hoping the SZ gives me the combination of distance from the M5 and forgiveness of the G30. Although most of my misses this year have been a starting direction thing vs a curve issue. Maybe I need to focus more on my aim and alignment. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Kanoito and edingc 1 1 Quote Qi10 - Terra Forza White | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | G430 3-Hybrid - Kai'li White 80s SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 Mezz Max | Pro V1x | Vortex Blade | Ghost Maverick Black Ops - Forum Edition | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanoito Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 34 minutes ago, B.Boston said: That’s great! I’ve seen my drives go from 270ish to 280ish on good level ground shots from my G30 to M5. I’m hoping the SZ gives me the combination of distance from the M5 and forgiveness of the G30. Although most of my misses this year have been a starting direction thing vs a curve issue. Maybe I need to focus more on my aim and alignment. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yes, it was incredibly forgiving... and the weight on the back gave me 400rpm more of spin... bringing it up to 2100... I think my launch was still too low, but then I tried the 10* head and couldn't hit it to save my life. GolfSpy_BOS 1 Quote SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Kanoito said: Just went to my scheduled fitting today and guess what... the Xtreme was borrowed so I couldn't test it... But I did hit the SZ 9* with Aldila Rogue Silver 60S (gave me the best numbers) vs Titleist, Mizuno, Bridgestone. I purposely told the fitter to skip the Mavrik and SIM, cause I wasn't ready to pay the EUR 500-600 price tag. I was having a bad day with my Epic, spreading all over with about 240 carry and 250 total... with the SZ I was about 250 carry and touching 270 total but with a great shot dispersion. So I thought, maybe it's just a bad day, but that doesn't explain why the Epic sucked compared to the SZ. So I'll give it another shot next week while comparing the SZ with the Xtreme, but I'll most probably buy one of those. This gives me a lot of hope that the SZX will be a magical driver for me. GolfSpy_BOS 1 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 3.6 / Anti-Cap: 9.9 (Last Updated Sept. 1, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 On 6/27/2020 at 4:03 PM, edingc said: This gives me a lot of hope that the SZX will be a magical driver for me. ... If you fall into the medium swing speed category, there is a very good chance the Xtreme will be magical, according to MGS testing. They could have just read my review. https://mygolfspy.com/2020-most-wanted-the-best-drivers-for-mid-swing-speeds/ hartrick11, cnosil, JohnSmalls and 2 others 4 1 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r Irons: P770 5-pw ... Steelfiber i80r TP UDi 4 ... Steelfiber i80r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Custom 5.1 (no alignment) 33" Ball: '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, chisag said: ... If you fall into the medium swing speed category, there is a very good chance the Xtreme will be magical, according to MGS testing. They could have just read my review. https://mygolfspy.com/2020-most-wanted-the-best-drivers-for-mid-swing-speeds/ Can't wait to get my Pars & Stripes version in. I may be more on the slow swing speed side vs mid swing speed, but not too far off. daviddvm, GolfSpy_BOS, StrokerAce and 2 others 2 3 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted June 29, 2020 Share Posted June 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: Can't wait to get my Pars & Stripes version in. I may be more on the slow swing speed side vs mid swing speed, but not too far off. JEALOUS! daviddvm, JohnSmalls and GolfSpy_BOS 3 Quote Driver- Titleist TSR3 10* Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19* Irons- Titleist 718 AP2 (5i-50*) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Wilson Infinite Grant Park Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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