chisag Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, cnosil said: In my opinion and also what Tony indicated on today's No Putts Given. Use your ball as a baseline and try to determine what you need to change. If you need more spin around the green, look at balls that spin more with the short irons than your baseline. If you want more distance, look at the balls with more distance. it is really a trial and error type of approach; there isn't a single answer for anyone. ... I play with plenty of high index golfers that especially here in the desert, just bump and run everything around the green. Not a bad play as there is less margin for error but chipping with a 7 iron just off the front of the green to a back pin where the ball will be rolling for 90% of the distance it doesn't really matter if you are playing a ProV1 or a Duo Soft. cnosil, funkyjudge, JohnSmalls and 6 others 9 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Aerojet 16* 3 wood ... AD-IZ6r Aerojet 20* 7 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r Irons: '23 T200 4-9i ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdc1 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, cnosil said: In my opinion and also what Tony indicated on today's No Putts Given. Use your ball as a baseline and try to determine what you need to change. If you need more spin around the green, look at balls that spin more with the short irons than your baseline. If you want more distance, look at the balls with more distance. it is really a trial and error type of approach; there isn't a single answer for anyone. I agree. Listened to the podcast a little while ago. But it would be sooooooo much easier if some wizard could just look at me and give me the answer! cnosil and Just_the_Chip 2 Quote Driver: Ping G425 Max (10.5º; Regular ) Fwy: Cobra King SZ (3; Regular); Ping G410 (5; Regular) Hybrids: Ping G410 (22º and 26º; Regular) Irons: Cleveland Launcher XL (6-U) Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 (54º/12º), and Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 (58º/8º) Putter: Ping Karsten Anser X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, tdc1 said: I agree. Listened to the podcast a little while ago. But it would be sooooooo much easier if some wizard could just look at me and give me the answer! ... And your wish has been granted! tdc1 1 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Aerojet 16* 3 wood ... AD-IZ6r Aerojet 20* 7 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r Irons: '23 T200 4-9i ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanrock22 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 SEED balls Quote Driver: Taylormade Sim 2 Irons: Titlist T200 Putter: Odyssey center shaft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyO3478 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 4 hours ago, mbrodeur86 said: Oh really? I'll have to check. What swing speed are you playing at? I'm in between high and mid (closer to mid) I'm between slow and mid. Closer to slow. mbrodeur86 1 Quote PXG Cobra Mizuno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyO3478 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, mbrodeur86 said: Wilson Staff Buy 2 get 1 Free https://www.wilson.com/en-us/product/staff-model-golf-balls-wg20001?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=sm|stat|prosp&utm_campaign=asc&cmpid=sm|stat|prosp|fb|asc||||wil|golf|brand|sm-b2g1-balls-img-a&fbclid=IwAR3Wwatg7cMeP0R6LmbDsgdcSLiwHy4NmzsAsJEinPjQiBWHMVLyXVde_hQ_aem_AU2t5sy3T4jelkJEeb-wLHv648TdjMSBXIYFrI5ENrNVoPO1hwV9sKlW258yQW_Ckcdp234GOUIgMbg6YiQdZdo1#colorsteamname=55928 Edited August 31, 2023 by JohnnyO3478 mbrodeur86 1 Quote PXG Cobra Mizuno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 56 minutes ago, chisag said: ... I play with plenty of high index golfers that especially here in the desert, just bump and run everything around the green. Not a bad play as there is less margin for error but chipping with a 7 iron just off the front of the green to a back pin where the ball will be rolling for 90% of the distance it doesn't really matter if you are playing a ProV1 or a Duo Soft. A wise man once said the above. mbrodeur86, Preeway and chisag 1 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BEN Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 The ball test has confirmed that the Maxfli Tour X and the Callaway Chromesoft X LS still work for my combination of swing speeds, which I already knew. But it also has me intrigued by the Bridgestone B XS. The last Bridgestone ball I gamed was a B330, so I’m probably due to give them another go mbrodeur86, russtopherb and GolfSpy SAM 3 Quote WITB: D: G430 Max 10k 10.5° turned down 1° flat Ventus TR Blue velocore 6x 3w: 14.5° G425 Max Alta CB 65s 3h: G430 18° Tour 2.0/Stiff 7W: 21° Rogue ST Max LinQ 7X 5i-6i: ZX5 6.0 7i-PW: ZX7 6.0 48°: SM-9 54° & 58°: T-22 Denim Copper P: Link.1 Ball: Pro Plus Drip Bag: Ghost MGS Anyday 14 way "And so, we beat on, boats against the current, borne ceaselessly into the past." - Fitzgerald ” The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep.” - Frost "That you are here—that life exists and identity, That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse." - Whitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RITZ Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 8 hours ago, StrokerAce said: just for fun I'd like to see them test balls marketed as "straight" - Polara, Maxfli StraightFli, etc. (I realize the Polara is illegal, but just for fun) Along with the above suggested golf balls ,..I have pitched this here before (pun intended) please do some kind of a test of the MG Senior golf ball. Longer off the tee with driver or their phony advertising hype? Thank you chisag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrodeur86 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 8 hours ago, Ben Joest said: The ball test has confirmed that the Maxfli Tour X and the Callaway Chromesoft X LS still work for my combination of swing speeds, which I already knew. But it also has me intrigued by the Bridgestone B XS. The last Bridgestone ball I gamed was a B330, so I’m probably due to give them another go Curious what your ss is. I didn't see the post Johnny put up until this morning and last night I bought the Chrome soft X LS triple track. I wanted a little less spin than the Pro V1 and a little more distance. My ball speed sits around 155 avg. I'm a +2 AOA too Quote DRIVER: Stealth 2, 9* (Upright Setting), Mitsubishi Kai' Li red, 60g Stiff flex, Golf Pride CP2 Pro Midsize Woods: Sim Max 3 Wood, 15*, Fujikura Ventus 6 Blue 65g, Stiff flex, Golf Pride CP2 Pro Midsize HYBRIDS: JPX 850 hybrid 19*, UST Proforce V2 85g, Stiff, Golf Pride CP2 Pro Midsize IRONS: MP-20 HMB 4 iron, Project X LZ 6.5 shaft, Stiff+, Ping Midsize grip JPX 919 Tour 5i-pw, Project X LZ 6.5 shafts, Stiff+, Ping Midsize grips WEDGES: New Level Golf 50*, 55*, 60* M-Type Wedges with True Temper Elevate Tour X-Stiff flex, New Level Midsize grips PUTTER: Heppler Ketsch 35", Ping PP62 Pistol Grip BALL: Pro V1 (2021 + 2023 Versions Yellow + White) BAG: 2023 Pro Cart Bag Shoes: Under Armour HOVR Fade 2 SL Spikeless Shoes Tech: NX7 Pro Slope golf laser Rangefinder Frogger Golf Towels, 4 more Yard blue/ yellow golf tees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BEN Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 30 minutes ago, mbrodeur86 said: Curious what your ss is. I didn't see the post Johnny put up until this morning and last night I bought the Chrome soft X LS triple track. I wanted a little less spin than the Pro V1 and a little more distance. My ball speed sits around 155 avg. I'm a +2 AOA too Mid iron ave 86-88 Driver ave 106-108 mbrodeur86 1 Quote WITB: D: G430 Max 10k 10.5° turned down 1° flat Ventus TR Blue velocore 6x 3w: 14.5° G425 Max Alta CB 65s 3h: G430 18° Tour 2.0/Stiff 7W: 21° Rogue ST Max LinQ 7X 5i-6i: ZX5 6.0 7i-PW: ZX7 6.0 48°: SM-9 54° & 58°: T-22 Denim Copper P: Link.1 Ball: Pro Plus Drip Bag: Ghost MGS Anyday 14 way "And so, we beat on, boats against the current, borne ceaselessly into the past." - Fitzgerald ” The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep.” - Frost "That you are here—that life exists and identity, That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse." - Whitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbrodeur86 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, Ben Joest said: Mid iron ave 86-88 Driver ave 106-108 Yeah that's pretty much my numbers give or take. How does the LS react when you hit it into a green? I'm usually short to the flag so I like a hit and roll of about 10-15 feet. Quote DRIVER: Stealth 2, 9* (Upright Setting), Mitsubishi Kai' Li red, 60g Stiff flex, Golf Pride CP2 Pro Midsize Woods: Sim Max 3 Wood, 15*, Fujikura Ventus 6 Blue 65g, Stiff flex, Golf Pride CP2 Pro Midsize HYBRIDS: JPX 850 hybrid 19*, UST Proforce V2 85g, Stiff, Golf Pride CP2 Pro Midsize IRONS: MP-20 HMB 4 iron, Project X LZ 6.5 shaft, Stiff+, Ping Midsize grip JPX 919 Tour 5i-pw, Project X LZ 6.5 shafts, Stiff+, Ping Midsize grips WEDGES: New Level Golf 50*, 55*, 60* M-Type Wedges with True Temper Elevate Tour X-Stiff flex, New Level Midsize grips PUTTER: Heppler Ketsch 35", Ping PP62 Pistol Grip BALL: Pro V1 (2021 + 2023 Versions Yellow + White) BAG: 2023 Pro Cart Bag Shoes: Under Armour HOVR Fade 2 SL Spikeless Shoes Tech: NX7 Pro Slope golf laser Rangefinder Frogger Golf Towels, 4 more Yard blue/ yellow golf tees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drb1956 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 11 hours ago, cnosil said: In my opinion and also what Tony indicated on today's No Putts Given. Use your ball as a baseline and try to determine what you need to change. If you need more spin around the green, look at balls that spin more with the short irons than your baseline. If you want more distance, look at the balls with more distance. it is really a trial and error type of approach; there isn't a single answer for anyone. Exactly! That is what I do. I am a high capper, and change the golf ball in my bag from time to time. I play a ball for a certain time,say 4-6 rounds, and determine if this ball is helping me. If not, on to the next choice. I take my time choosing. I read the mfg's. take on the ball, and then read reviews. Right now playing a ball that I have played before, and feel comfortable with this ball, as I am not playing a lot at this time. Been at least a month since I last played. Will be playing a round in a couple of weeks, and this ball will help me stay in the fairway, for the most part. No expectations for my round, just to have some fun on the course... Quote Driver-Ping g410 SFT, 3W-Callaway Diablo Octane, Hybrids-Snake Eyes Viper 18*+ 21*, Irons-GigaGolf Reva Hybrid Irons 24*- 46*, Wedges-Cleveland CBX2's 50*54*58*, Putter-Cleveland Huntington Beach Soft 11c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middler Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 What a great resource, though it hasn’t changed what I play for this year. Maxfli Tour mostly, Titleist ProV1 on special occasions - about 3:1. I just tried Snell MTB and MTBX again, used to be my go to ball, but Maxfli Tour is as good or better IME. As a strictly anecdotal aside of the 20 plus guys I play with regularly, Titleist is most popular among better players, Callaway among mid-high handicappers. Then Bridgestone. A few of us play Maxfli (me), Vice, Srixon. For whatever reason no one plays TaylorMade or Kirkland consistently. A fair number of the guys play found balls, some selectively, some whatever they find… Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 CB 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX923 HMP 4-GW, T22 54.12WS, T22 58.04DC w Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Midsize LAB DF3 w Accra Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 001 F (mesh), Payntr X 005 F, Ecco Biom C4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 On the topic of dispersion, I think there's just too many variables to accurately test that in a situation like this. Is the dispersion because you're always coming in with an open/closed face? Are you OTT or way to in/out? Do you always miss heel or toe? All of those are factors I would think, and trying all of that in a testing environment would be more difficult than just using the Iron Byron to measure distance, spin, peak height, etc so everything is consistent across the board. PMookie 1 Quote In my Big Max hybrid bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h D200 6i-GW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 Tour S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 While i wish i had seen the Left Dot in this test, i was shocked to see how well the V1X did across the board....longer than left dash at mid swing and fast speeds.......if you are a titleist player and swing in the mid range, only two balls in thier lineup exceed 400 yards on a driver and mid iron.....Left dash and V1x... I was disappointed in the V1 in comparison as Titleist has claimed to incorporate some left dot technology but I feel they missed the mark.....Finau left the V1 to go back to the left dot.... i have to test the V1x on the course..... PMookie and HikingMike 2 Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_the_Chip Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 14 hours ago, tdc1 said: I agree. Listened to the podcast a little while ago. But it would be sooooooo much easier if some wizard could just look at me and give me the answer! I honestly wish the same. This is really the first year of golf for me in many different respects, especially around game improvement. When I went in for a club fitting, I was sort of shocked that they asked a bunch of, what am I looking for questions. I just wanted to say, I have no idea what even to look for. I was hoping someone would watch me hack a way a little bit, and just hand me a club and say these are yours, go and get better. Same concept with a Golf Ball. On the podcast, I really took to the idea of just finding one ball, and using that one ball to establish a baseline. Is this ball too hard, too soft, does it sound funny? Do I hate the way it clicks off the putter or squish into the driver? and then go from there. I've been using a Vice Pro, and I switched to a Callaway Chromesoft recently and so far have enjoyed it. So I'm going to stick with Chromesoft for a while, and hopefully work it in from there. But I agree that it would be nice to have someone look and say, "you know you'd get more distance and control, with similar feel if you switch to XXXXX" tdc1 1 Quote "In fact , we both tend to hold the Midwestern stoic view that genuine problems are solved with action, not pissing and moaning. If you run around sharing your feelings too much, you'll eventually arrive at a place where you're not only still screwed up, but now everyone knows about it, too." - John Gierach - Sex, Death and Fly Fishing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Shakeyfly said: I honestly wish the same. This is really the first year of golf for me in many different respects, especially around game improvement. When I went in for a club fitting, I was sort of shocked that they asked a bunch of, what am I looking for questions. I just wanted to say, I have no idea what even to look for. I was hoping someone would watch me hack a way a little bit, and just hand me a club and say these are yours, go and get better. Same concept with a Golf Ball. On the podcast, I really took to the idea of just finding one ball, and using that one ball to establish a baseline. Is this ball too hard, too soft, does it sound funny? Do I hate the way it clicks off the putter or squish into the driver? and then go from there. I've been using a Vice Pro, and I switched to a Callaway Chromesoft recently and so far have enjoyed it. So I'm going to stick with Chromesoft for a while, and hopefully work it in from there. But I agree that it would be nice to have someone look and say, "you know you'd get more distance and control, with similar feel if you switch to XXXXX" chromesoft is a very under rated ball.....it does everything well.....switching balls to something "better" may not result in better scoring.....its rare a switch results in you actually SCORING Better.....thats the ultimate goal is to score better....not gain 2 yards of distance off the driver.... tdc1, Just_the_Chip and mbrodeur86 3 Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 For those that have their own data from Trackman, Ballnamic is a good resource to use for comparisons between balls. I’ve enjoyed my move to the recommended AVX from V1X and Z Star. Been exactly what I was looking for. Shrek74, Londo, HikingMike and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preeway Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I’ve been golfing for over 30 years and played a wide variety balls over that time. In my opinion the best way to choose a ball comes down to 1. How does it feel off the club face/putter 2. Do I get the spin I want on approach shots/around the greens. 3. Carry distance 4. Cost relative to other balls with similar performance I don’t put distance at the top because it’s really hard to judge distance comparisons in a real golf setting versus a testing setting with so many uncontrolled variables on each hole. But I can play three different balls over 18 holes and get a good comparison 6 holes at a time with spin and overall feel. mbrodeur86 and tdc1 2 Quote Driver: Aerojet LS, Ventus Blue Shaft - 6S 4 Wood: Rogue ST Max 16.5, Tensei White Shaft - 7S Utility Iron: Fli Hi 3-iron, HAZARDOUS Smoke Black Shaft - S Irons: JPX 921 Tour 4-P, Project X Shafts - Stiff 125g Wedges: 52º, 56º, 60º Putter: Ai-One 7 T CH, 34" Preferred Ball: Z-Star Diamond Pushcart: Nitron Rangefinder: Tour V5 Shift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyO3478 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Shakeyfly said: I honestly wish the same. This is really the first year of golf for me in many different respects, especially around game improvement. When I went in for a club fitting, I was sort of shocked that they asked a bunch of, what am I looking for questions. I just wanted to say, I have no idea what even to look for. I was hoping someone would watch me hack a way a little bit, and just hand me a club and say these are yours, go and get better. Same concept with a Golf Ball. On the podcast, I really took to the idea of just finding one ball, and using that one ball to establish a baseline. Is this ball too hard, too soft, does it sound funny? Do I hate the way it clicks off the putter or squish into the driver? and then go from there. I've been using a Vice Pro, and I switched to a Callaway Chromesoft recently and so far have enjoyed it. So I'm going to stick with Chromesoft for a while, and hopefully work it in from there. But I agree that it would be nice to have someone look and say, "you know you'd get more distance and control, with similar feel if you switch to XXXXX" I'm probably roughly in the same boat as you are. Been playing around a year. Fitted for clubs. Taking lessons. H.I. hovering around 19. To date - nearly every ball I've tried that I liked the feel of had a compression rating in the mid 80s. So that's where I set my starting point. Next - i much prefer to play a yellow ball - so that narrowed the field down to 7 options. Out of those 7, i axed any that didn't score well in the ball lab. That knocked off 2 of them. Then I put the remaining 5 in the cross tab table and started interpolating performance of the more affordable options against the Pro V1 yellow ball - going back and forth between the slow and mid speed data sets. That got me down to 2 choices - one of which happened to be the ball I've been playing the most over the past year. I ordered a dozen of the other option so I can do my own head to head testing on my launch monitor and out on the course. There's about a $7/dz difference in the cost of the two models so that's not likely to sway me much - but will be the tie breaker if I can't discern anything between the two on the course. Seems a little daunting - but it's giving me something to do ..... I like the process. mbrodeur86, Shapotomous and tdc1 3 Quote PXG Cobra Mizuno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdc1 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 @PMookie Do you know offhand the minimum data Ballnamic needs? Thanks. PMookie 1 Quote Driver: Ping G425 Max (10.5º; Regular ) Fwy: Cobra King SZ (3; Regular); Ping G410 (5; Regular) Hybrids: Ping G410 (22º and 26º; Regular) Irons: Cleveland Launcher XL (6-U) Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 (54º/12º), and Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 (58º/8º) Putter: Ping Karsten Anser X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdc1 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 @JohnnyO3478 Just being nosy here (and understand if you don’t want to say yet) but which balls are down to in your process? I admit to not having the discipline to be too methodical in my choice — I just keep defaulting to good condition Pro Vs that I find. Quote Driver: Ping G425 Max (10.5º; Regular ) Fwy: Cobra King SZ (3; Regular); Ping G410 (5; Regular) Hybrids: Ping G410 (22º and 26º; Regular) Irons: Cleveland Launcher XL (6-U) Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 (54º/12º), and Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 (58º/8º) Putter: Ping Karsten Anser X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallsLeon Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I am a low swing speed player with lower spin, I’d love to try one of the recommended higher spin balls but Maxfli Tour X is more in my wheelhouse price wise. Already seen a few promising things on wedge shots, need to see if they’ve made a change on Trackman. GregGarner 1 Quote Driver : Rogue ST Max LS, 10.5° loft, autoFlex Dream7, SF405x flex (45.5") 3-Wood: Rogue ST LS, 15° loft, MCA TENSEI AV Blue 65g, Reg flex (42.25", tipped 0.5") 3-Hybrid: Z H85, 19° loft, HZRDUS Black 85g, Reg flex Irons: T350 5i & T200 6i-GW, 23°-48° lofts, Nippon Modus3 120g, Stiff flex (+0.5”, 1° upright) Wedges: JB Forged Raw 54° & 58° lofts, Nippon Modus3 120g, Reg flex (+0.5/0.25", 0.5° upright) Putter: King Vintage Sport 60, SteelFiber P125 shaft, Quad Tour Taper grip (34") Bag: Ultralight Pro, Ski Patrol/Black Push Cart: Nitron, Black/Red Rangefinder: Bushnell Tour V5 Shift 2023 MGS Forum Review: Sugar Golf Balls (Final Review Posted) 2023 MGS Forum Review: Sycamore 009 Mini Putter (Final Review Posted) 2024 Unofficial Review: The "Putting Thing" by WhyGolf -TJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, tdc1 said: @PMookie Do you know offhand the minimum data Ballnamic needs? Thanks. It’s been a year since I did it, but I think they are ball speed, launch, spin, basic numbers. If I remember correctly I entered those for both driver and irons. tdc1 1 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyO3478 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 20 minutes ago, tdc1 said: @JohnnyO3478 Just being nosy here (and understand if you don’t want to say yet) but which balls are down to in your process? I admit to not having the discipline to be too methodical in my choice — I just keep defaulting to good condition Pro Vs that I find. I don't mind. I should have included in the original post. Here's how it went down for me: Yellow balls in the mid 80s: Titelist Pro V1 Maxfli Tour (my current ball) Bridgestone Tour B XS Titleist Tour Speed Srixon Z Star Maxfli Tour S Wilson Triad Eliminated based on Ball Lab performance: Tour B XS Z Star Tour Speed Final 2: Wilson Triad ($38/dz by subscription) and Maxfli Tour ($30/dz in bulk) Both made in the Foremost factory - same dimple pattern - both solid performers in the ball lab. Triad seems to out perform Tour in the slow speed category - but i think they essentially cross over and meet up as the swing speed increases. I swing an 8 iron around 73 mph and my driver around 88 on average. I plan on spending a lot of time hitting 30, 40, 50 yd shots and chipping around the greens in the upcomming weeks. HikingMike, tdc1 and GolfSpy SAM 3 Quote PXG Cobra Mizuno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRI1982 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 So, can someone please explain this to me? What happened with ProV1's. Mid swing speed player and haven't dug into the data too deep. Playing 2023 ProV1's currently. Have played Prov1X in the past, is it enough of a concern to go back to them? I got away from the ProV1X's because I thought they were way to spinny around the greens. Thanks for the help. CrazyGolfNut and RITZ 1 1 Quote Driver- Ping G425 Max 3 Wood- Callaway Rogue 3 Hy- 19 Deg Taylor Made M2 Irons- Callaway Apex Pro 14’ Wedges- Cleveland RTX-3 V-MG 60/9 , Cleveland RTX- 3 V-MG 52/10, Vokey 08 M SM8 Putter- Cleveland HB Soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdc1 Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 5 hours ago, JohnnyO3478 said: I don't mind. I should have included in the original post. Here's how it went down for me: Yellow balls in the mid 80s: Titelist Pro V1 Maxfli Tour (my current ball) Bridgestone Tour B XS Titleist Tour Speed Srixon Z Star Maxfli Tour S Wilson Triad Eliminated based on Ball Lab performance: Tour B XS Z Star Tour Speed Final 2: Wilson Triad ($38/dz by subscription) and Maxfli Tour ($30/dz in bulk) Both made in the Foremost factory - same dimple pattern - both solid performers in the ball lab. Triad seems to out perform Tour in the slow speed category - but i think they essentially cross over and meet up as the swing speed increases. I swing an 8 iron around 73 mph and my driver around 88 on average. I plan on spending a lot of time hitting 30, 40, 50 yd shots and chipping around the greens in the upcomming weeks. Thanks for the detail! I’m about the same driver SS and also prefer yellow balls. I’ve played MaxFli Tour and Tour X — both prior model — with some success. Have been wondering about the Triad myself. Quote Driver: Ping G425 Max (10.5º; Regular ) Fwy: Cobra King SZ (3; Regular); Ping G410 (5; Regular) Hybrids: Ping G410 (22º and 26º; Regular) Irons: Cleveland Launcher XL (6-U) Wedges: Ping Glide 3.0 (54º/12º), and Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 (58º/8º) Putter: Ping Karsten Anser X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyO3478 Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 4 hours ago, tdc1 said: Thanks for the detail! I’m about the same driver SS and also prefer yellow balls. I’ve played MaxFli Tour and Tour X — both prior model — with some success. Have been wondering about the Triad myself. Last phase of in house testing (I hope). They feel just like the Maxfli Tour and are the exact same shade of yellow. No surprise there. I am sure the cover material and the paint are the same materials. The ball lab reported that the Triad is on the lighter side of weight spectrum - and I confirmed this, myself. 2/3 of the balls in my box weighed 45.4 grams while the other third weighed in at 45.5 g. Worthy of note that the ping against the 2023 Maxfli was an inconsistency in the weights amount the samples tested - with one box being noticably heavier than the other two. If there had not been that variation, Tony said he would have scored the ball in the 90s. I can control for that inconsistency. I weighed my last dz and they were all 45.7g with the exception of one that weighed 45.6 g - that can't possibly be perceptible. I also weighed a box of yellow pro V1 at the same time - and there was a little more variance with the Titleist box - but still most at 45.7g. I had a lesson this afternoon - and hit the Triad a bit when I got home. It felt fine and performed on the launch monitor in about the same manner as the Maxfli and Pro V. I have 3 rounds scheduled this weekend. Let's see how many I can lose ..... tdc1 1 Quote PXG Cobra Mizuno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skraeling Posted September 1, 2023 Share Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) Ordered a dozen of the chrome soft x ls they seem to compare pretty favorably to my current gamer the Tour B RXS. Will it knock it off for distance off the tee? Ill find out monday. Figured I would go as far away from my softer RXS to really try and suss out any actual difference on course with a human hitting it. Will be playing my regular league course so I know where I typically tend to end up with hits. Should make for a good head to head comparison. TLDR: had 10.00 of scorerewards sitting in my account so decided to yolo on some new balls to whack. Edited September 1, 2023 by skraeling Quote Driver - Sim2Max 10.5° (set at 9*) UST Helium shaft 3W - StealthHL 16.5° 3h - Sim2max 19° irons - Sim2OS kbsmax85mt steel shafts reg flex 5i-Aw wedgies - Jaws MD5 52°-10° (Bounce) S Grind Jaws MD5 56°-12° (Bounce) W Grind Putter - Mizuno OMOI Type II VENTUS Velocore+ review Stack Referral code Final Sugar "Pure" Golf Balls Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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