Triple_Putt Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 With the groups I usually play with, we putt out Par and Birdies, and putter shaft length and in for a gimme past that. To me that keeps the putts that matter still being rolled, and keeping the game moving when we are already past par(and usually climbing rapidly) Quote Super Burner 2.0 10.5* Fly-Z hybrid 17.5* Rogue 5 wood 24* SMS 4-GW Vokey SM7 60*, SM8 54* Versa 1 putter 2023 Tested: Edel SMS Irons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acatalano32 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 It all comes down to who you’re playing with and what you’re playing for. If you’re playing a casual round with buddies and having a good time, then take the gimmie, give the gimmie, enjoy! Obviously if you’re trying to establish a legit handicap or playing in some sort of tournament, then putt everything out. with all that being said, if you were playing a casual game of poker with your friends, youre not just gonna give them the pot because they were close to flush or a straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 On 5/27/2023 at 5:43 PM, MJ McNamara said: Question. Are gimme putts good for the game or are they bad for your golf game. I’ve played with lots of players that love giving gimme putts because they want them returned in kind. I don’t like this, Ive upset players by saying, no sorry I’ll putt it out. My reasoning for this is when I really need to make a putt in say a tourney stroke play or a match play event then I can draw on the fact that I’m comfortable making them. For myself, gimme putts are in play to help speed up the game of golf. What length do people feel is a gimme putt? Some say within the shaft and up to the bottom of the putter grip is a gimme, I say when it’s sitting on the edge of the cup. General rule for us, "inside the leather" of the putter grip - we can call that a gimme. Outside the leather - debatable, highly unlikely to happen UNLESS we are hard pressed on time (which is the only real reason it exists). Some of the guys will still putt it out anyway inside the leather, and that is ok as well. What I hate is when we call the gimme and someone stands over it for 3 minutes practicing their arc stroke and misses it anyway. That is annoying AND keeps play slow. Quote 425's- 5i to PW, UW G400 Driver, G425 3W, G425 7W, G425 3H 56 degree Hi-Toe wedge Glide 60 degree Evnroll ER3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Stevenhp said: I like to hole everything out. I get a little annoyed when after a long putt they decide if it’s a gimme. I always thought the standard length was the club grip, but with the newer grips and longer putters that’s not the case. I insist on holing out birdie and par putts. I agree - birdie and par putts require sinking it, even if in the leather (so within the grip of the putter). No one I play with gives those away typically. You have to earn it. On the triple bogey we do it. LebanonOz and BKervin 2 Quote 425's- 5i to PW, UW G400 Driver, G425 3W, G425 7W, G425 3H 56 degree Hi-Toe wedge Glide 60 degree Evnroll ER3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebanonOz Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 I personally prefer to putt everything to stay sharp. In our Tuesday league Par putts or better cannot be gimmes no matter how close they are. I will give a one footer during league play for bogey or worse. A lot of guys are very lax though and I think it really depends on how "easy" the putt is perceived to be. They would likely give a gimme to someone putting like a pro that day with a 3 foot level putt. If it is a 3 footer on a severe side slope they are going to have to putt. GolfSpy_BEN and BKervin 2 Quote G425 LST 10.5* - Aldila Rogue White 130 MSI 70 Regular G425 3Hybrid 19* - Fujikura Pro 2.0 Hybrid 7 - Regular G425 4Hybrid 22* - Ping Tour 2.0 85/R Mizuno 5i-GW - JPX 923 Hot Metal Pro - KBS Tour 120 Stiff (soft stepped) RTX ZipCore 56* - Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400 Black White Hot OG 7S, Garsen Quad Tour non-tapered grip Titleist ProV1x Left Dash; ProV1 Shot Scope X5 watch; Bushnell Pro X2 Range Finder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipmunk Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 The group I play with most often does give puts, 1-2ft, however we are only playing for fun and it does help us keep moving. The golf league I played in does as well however those are typically 1ft or less and never for a birdie. Quote Typically a bogey golfer although I have improved some over the past few years due to playing more. Driver: Ping G400 3W: Ping G410 Irons: Ping G430 5-U Wedge: Vokey SM8 Putter: Scotty Cameron Pro Platinum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillybobT Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 I see many people here responding that they would never concede a birdie putt. I suspect many of us on this forum are like me and putting for par or bogey is regular thing, and just as difficult as a birdie putt, so let's get rid of the bullshit. Any putt is as important as any other. Would you concede the longest drive to another player? Closest to the pin? I suggest we all just play the game and finish every hole the way it was meant to be played. Some of those devious course designers put those holes in places for a reason, and I fully intend to curse them out every time I get the chance. BKervin, LebanonOz and GolfSpy_BEN 2 1 Quote Callaway Rogue ST MAX 10.5 Takomo 101 Irons all 4 Tokomo SkyForger wedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyjudge Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 If it is to win or halve the hole, I don’t care how short the putt is, you are going to have to putt it out if you are playing against me. LebanonOz 1 Quote DR - Callaway Paradym AI Smoke Max, Newton Motion 4-Dot shaft 4W - Titleist TSR2, Newton Motion 4-Dot FW shaft HYB - Sub 70 949X 21*, original HZRDUS Black 85-S shaft 7W (if played) - Titleist TSR, ACCRA TZ6 7S Irons - Cobra King Forged Tec X, KBS TGI graphite shafts Wedges - Edison 2.0, 47* (bent to 48*), 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100 Tour S Putter - Evnroll ER10 ""Outback” Mallet Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023) or Vice Pro Plus Bags - Vessel / Ghost stand bags Cart - MotoCaddy M7 Remote (without the remote) Spoiler Lots of short game practice has made this a strength; now the driver is causing problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shifty Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 If it's for fun, nothing wrong with 2' gimmies. If it's for anything at all, putt everything out to avoid disputes. Quote Paradym 9 degree Driver DYNAPWR 3 wood Apex 21 PW-4 Iron CBX 50 degree CBX 54 degree CBX2 58 degree SM6 62 Degree ER2 Putter CURRENTLY TESTING T-Squared TS-912 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Snr Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 No such thing as a “gimmie” nor a “Mulligan” Quote WITB...Taylor Made driver, Callaway Steelhead 15’ 3 metal, Cleveland 19’ rescue, 5-SW Callaway Steelhead irons, 60’ Titleist Vokey wedge, Various putters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beakbryce Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Giving putts is part of match play, and strategic in nature. Giving putts in stroke play is questionable. That being said, since I do neither, most of the time my group auto 2 putts as our greens aren't that good. We don't play for anything other than fun. Most people would say that that ruins your putting but I won the last putting contest I entered. I probably hit 50 putts a day on my birdie putting mat. Quote Driver: Callaway Epic 9 degree, stiff (set at 10 degrees with the movable weight in the center} FW: Callaway Epic 3,5, heaven wood w/ regular shaft (driver shaft in 3 wood, 3 wood shaft in 5 wood, 5 wood shaft in heaven wood, all three set at neutral plus 1 degree) Hybrids: Callaway BB19 4,6,7 (4 set at neutral plus 1 degree and 6 and 7 set at neutral minus 1 degree for gapping purposes) Irons: Callaway Rogue ST Max 8, 9, PW Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM6 50,54,58 Ball: Titleist Pro V1, 1X, Vice Pro Plus or anything I find that day and try out for the fun of it (I haven't bought balls with my own money in at least 10 years) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryB Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 sirchunksalot 1 Quote Cobra Aerojet Max driver Cobra Aerojet Max 3 wood and 7 wood Cobra Aerojet 4/5/6 hybrids Cobra Aerojet 7-PW, GW Cobra Snakebite 52° and 58° wedges Cobra King Stingray 20 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckZ Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 With the guys I play with in our men's leagues, no such thing as a gimme. No such thing unless you are picking up for a triple bogey. Quote Driver - TSi3 10.75* - Fujikura Speeder 661 TR Fairway - TSi2 14.25* - Fujikura Motore Speeder VC 6.1 Fairway - TSR1 17.0* - Fujikura Vista Pro 65S Hybrid - TSR1 19.0* - Fujikura Atmos Red Tour 75 Hybrid - TSR1 23.0* - Fujikura Atmos Red Tour 75 Irons - T350 (2023) - 5-48W - True Temper AMT Red 95g-107g Wedges - Vokey SM9 - 52.08F, 56.10S, 58.08M ** GolfPride MCC +4 Midsize Grips (all woods/irons/wedges) Putter - 2023 Scotty Cameron Super Select Squareback 2 35" ** Superstroke 1.0 Pistol Grip Golf Ball - TITLEIST - Prov1 (2023) Golf Bags - TITLEIST - Cart 14 (black), Mid Size Tour (black/white) Golf Glove - FootJoy (StaSof), Shoes, Apparel and Outerwear Rangefinder - Bushnell Pro XE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweed Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 It is situational dependent...and my mood. Serious rounds always putt it out. Messing with friends gimmes 18 inches or so are OK. Our league doesn't have an official stance, but between 4 somes basically decide. There are 2 teams I can think of that I usually allow gimmes almost as soon as they get on the green. They are very slow and deliberate and elderly. 90+. I'm just happy they are out there. Absolutely no way they could beat me so to speed up the game I'm very liberal. Quote D- Ping G 400 SFT 16*- Adams Tight Lie 19*- Adams Tight Lie 4H- Ping G 400 5-U- Ping G 400 SW- Nike 56*- Ping Glide 2 P- Sub70 004 Mallet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryB Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I've played with a couple people that are getting older and are developing mobility issues. They're more or less putting towards a five foot circle around the pin after which they pick up and move on. Dropping a long putt is worth the cranky body parts, though. The only time I take gimmes is on the "get me outta here" holes. Generally when I've passed triple bogey and/or missed what should have been an easy third putt. Quote Cobra Aerojet Max driver Cobra Aerojet Max 3 wood and 7 wood Cobra Aerojet 4/5/6 hybrids Cobra Aerojet 7-PW, GW Cobra Snakebite 52° and 58° wedges Cobra King Stingray 20 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sopranosly Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 First what does it matter to you ? It depends on the game your playing if gambling . It speeds up play. Whats next play the ball down ( no touch ) . Pro's play by the rules weekday golfers play for fun. you give putts all day long then someone needs to make a two foot putt for birdie for a few bucks . that's when you say putt it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10Hockey Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 My take on gimme putts is that YOU own your handicap and I am not going to influence your approach to keeping track of how you play in regards to your handicap. So, I never tell anyone to pick up a putt, it is their decision to rake it away or putt it . Tournament golf is totally a different story as you play by the rules of golf. If you want a handicap that is lower because you never miss 1 or 2 footers due to picking it up , that's your call . Not a fan of gimme's. Quote Srixon Irons Cobra Driver Volkey Wedges Evenroll putter 3 hole in ones so far ( Ohio, Hawaii, Australia ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caddie1966 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I putt out every hole and record the putts I stroke even if my partners donate one to me. It’s just the way I do it. Quote 917D2 driver 3 wood TS2 19 degree and 21 degree hybrids 0211 5-GW irons Glide 56 and 60 degree wedges EXO7 putter MAX grip Pro V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donn lost in San Diego Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Unless really backed up, I think a player who isn't clowning around is ok to hole out. I hate person who wants to replay every 5 to 10 footer they miss. Quote #1 PXG 0211 10.5 deg, Evnflo Riptide CB 40 gram A flex. 3W: Callaway Steelhead Xr, Tensei Blue CK 55 gram A flex. 5W : Titleist TSi 1, Aldila Ascent 40 regular flex. Driving Iron: Mizuno MP 18 MMC Fli-Hi 3i 18 degree, Recoil 95 reg flex. 4 iron: GFF Mizuno Fly-Hi, 24 degree forged hollow body, Aerotech Steelfiber . 5 Hybrid: Mizuno (2017) JPX Fli-Hi wave tech, Recoil ESX 460 reg flex. Irons: 6 - PW: Ping I 500, on Recoil Smacwrap ES 760, reg flex. Wedges: 2 x Mizuno S5 52/09. 1@ 50 deg, 1@ 54 deg; New (July 2024) Mizu ES 21, 58 x 08, jet black. Chipper: Don Martin "Up n In" brass/bronze. Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab "R" Ball, face balanced, with 2 piece Stroke Lab multi material shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosey31 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Some in our weekly game allow gimmies and some do not. I prefer to putt everything out. Quote Driver: TSi2 9* Ventus Black 6S Fairway: TSi2 15* Speeder Evo III 70S Utility: T-200 3 Iron Ventus Blue HB-8S Irons: 620CB w/ DGTI X100 4-6 Irons: 620MB w/ DGTI X100 7-PW Wedges: SM9 50/08F 56/12S 60/04T Putter: Super Select Newport 2+ 34" Ball: Pro V1 #31 (Currently Ball Testing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Lechair Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I have no issue with true gimmes (say 2 or 3 feet), but I definitely do know some guys that get a little too generous with them, and then will just pick their ball up or half-heartedly putt their 4 or 5 footers that I would never give. At the end of the day, if we're not playing for money i couldn't care less. If you want to shave a couple strokes to inflate the ego a little bit, what do i care. You're only hurting yourself by artificially lowering the HC It does annoy me when they just toss you your ball on something i wouldn't even give me myself. There's something satisfying about hitting cups and seeing the ball go in the hole Quote Lefty Gang Cally Mavrik 10.5 - Rogue White 60 TX Cobra Radspeed 5w at 16* - Motore F1 7x Srixon ZU85 3i - Tensei Blue 80tx Srixon Z785 4-PW - DG X100 Cally Jaws MD5 Raw 52* MD3 56* & 60 Scotty Phantom X5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMacK1961 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Gimme putts can keep the game moving. Speed of play issues, etc. Having said that, isn’t it the point of the game to get the ball in the hole…that sound of a ball rattling around the bottom of the cup? I prefer no gimmes for myself. I like that feeling of victory when the ball goes in, no matter how many strokes. BKervin 1 Quote "It's only rock and roll...but I like it." - Mick Jagger "It is not the will to win that matters-Everyone has that. It's the will to prepare to win that matters." - Paul "Bear" Bryant "If anything is worth doing, it is worth doing with all your heart." - the Buddha What's in the bag: Driver Taylormade Qi10 Standard, 3W Callaway RazrFit Extreme, 5W - Cobra Fly Z XL, Wilson D9 4 hybrid, Heat II Single Length Irons 5-SW, Snake Eyes 60' LW What's on my feet: Squarz/Under Armour Charged Draw 2 Bag Boy Quad XL Push Cart w/Bag Boy CB15 bag Where I play: Baja Country Club - Ensenada, Baja Califorinia, Mexico/Bajamar Oceanfront Golf Resort, Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuka44 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 I prefer to putt everything out, and my weekend group knows this. As for gimmes, we operate from the "everyone keeps their own score, however they want" philosophy. Tournament play, clearly no gimmes. For money among friends, I still say its the groups decision. On my recent golf trip, the rule was you had to putt out for bogey, once you got to double or worse, you querried the group on if the lag putt you just left at 4 feet was good for a 7. With 5 foursomes on the courses, and being cognizant of pace of play, pretty much anything inside of 6 feet was good for double or worse. And contrary to some comments, I understand everyone has paid their money, and I don't want to "mess" with anyone's handicap(which only a fraction of anyone who plays this game will ever use for anything), and NO I have not been appointed "Pace of play Czar", by anyone, but on busy weekends, it is aggravating to observe a group "grinding" over 2-4 footers for double bogey or worse, presumably because there is $2 on the line. That is why our group attempts to avoid this at almost any cost now, by playing wherever we need to, in order to get a tee time in the first half hour 40 minutes of tee times. vandyland and WrightSounds 2 Quote Driver: Cobra King Speedzone Irons: Mavrik 4-GW Wedges: CG-14 56 & RTX 52 Hybrid: Callaway Apex Pro 2H Woods: Gigagolf 3W, Putter: Ping Scottsdale Wolverine Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 On 5/29/2023 at 3:47 AM, GolfSpy_APH said: Does skill level ever come into play when you are allowing gimmes? Absolutely! Our league allows gimmes at the discretion of only the opposing player. There are some very good putters in our league that I will be more generous with my gimmes and some that terrible putters who will have a shorter range in my mind. I also do the math on where our scores stand - tight match or I need the hole/point, gimmes just got shorter. If it's a blow-out either way, more generous. I don't know why, but I'm a little surprised that there are so many very strong opinions on the topic. GolfSpy_APH and cnosil 2 Quote Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 7W: Epic Flash 19* TourAD (can't remember the exact model) 4H: Tour B JGR 23* Recoil 780ES 5-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 54*, 58*: TAIII Black Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Most Recent Test: Fit For Golf 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballhawk Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 OK, here's a question that has surfaced on the gimmes..............Normal playing round with your group and there's a couple of bucks on the line and your playing partners say on a putt, that's good pick it up and you decide to putt it anyway and you miss it...........what's the/your position on what happened? Does the gimme count or does the missed stroke now count. Quote Total Callaway bag - except putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 OK, here's a question that has surfaced on the gimmes..............Normal playing round with your group and there's a couple of bucks on the line and your playing partners say on a putt, that's good pick it up and you decide to putt it anyway and you miss it...........what's the/your position on what happened? Does the gimme count or does the missed stroke now count. I’d go with match play rules which state that once a hole is conceded it cannot be revoked. Thus once you concede the putt the hole is complete. MaxEntropy 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vandyland Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 6 hours ago, Stuka44 said: I prefer to putt everything out, and my weekend group knows this. Same. I have missed 1.5 ft putts before so I know this is something I have to stay sharp on. I am not a competitive player and I play golf courses very short so I already have that advantage. Plus, it would only make me think I am a better player than I actually am and I need to stay as humble as possible because...well...golf is humbling. I don't really care if other people give themselves putts or not. Whatever helps people enjoy the game. Stuka44 1 Quote STZ 230 9.5* / Pro Fli-Hi 21* MALTBY TS1-IM 5-GW Equalizer II 54* / Carnoustie 60* L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 HackMotion Official Review -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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