RichL85 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 51 minutes ago, chisag said: ... Here is the thing. There are so many moving parts to a golf swing that will make solid contact with the ball with a good trajectory, combining spin and height and of course going where you are aiming. Oh yea, and the exact distance you need the ball to travel. All those moving parts need to work in unison in order to accomplish these goals. But it only takes doing one moving part incorrectly to throw the entire process in chaos. ... This would be bad enough but diagnosing exactly which part is the culprit can be very difficult. And what we all do to some degree is trying to fix ourselves by changing what we are doing well. We have all had swing keys that fixed our swing at some point in time. But more often than not those swing keys addressed a particular fault and if that part isn't the culprit in our current swing, the key that worked can actually cause more problems. ... As an example lets say you were over extending on the backswing without a proper wrist hinge and getting disconnected. You either stumbled on a tip or found out on your own that if you cock your wrists sooner, it stopped the over extension disconnection and brought your swing back into sync. Fast forward to a current swing out of whack and you remember the "cock the wrists sooner" swing key that worked so well, but the problem is you have stopped turning your shoulders and cocking your wrists sooner makes things even worse. ... Obviously the guys on tour have a coach that keep an eye on all those moving parts and usually stop a flaw before it becomes a problem. The fact that Tiger needed coaching should be an eye opener. As an instructor I am my own worst client just like a lawyer defending themselves, so I know your frustration. I have found that ignoring a swing problem during a round is usually better than trying to fix it while playing. Of course I am not talking about well struck shots with a swing that feels good and are just offline or moving one way or another and poor distance control. I am talking about what we all have experienced ... the swing just doesn't feel right and we know something is out of whack and we are hitting shots we normally don't hit. If we could only figure out what little piece needs to be "fixed" we could regain our form. ... So other than making some adjustments to deal with how you are playing today, don't try and fix your swing on the course. Heading to the range after the round is ideal and all the pros do it, but most of the time we don't have the option. Of course lessons are always a good idea. And sometimes whatever that little swing flaw was, it disappears the next round and things feel pretty good without "changing" anything. The more we love the game and the more competitive we are, the more we are our own worst enemy. I go through weeks sometimes playing 5 rounds or more and it seems like a constant struggle and then hit a stretch where it just seems so easy. But perfect is not an option so whenever possible cut yourself some slack, even though on the worst days it seems impossible when swinging so poorly, and accept what poor swing you have today because your better swing will always come back. Not going to lie. I kind of needed to read this after today's round. Course was only able to let me play 9 this morning because they have a tournament going on and so I was able to play the back before the tournament caught up. Anyway, went to warm up and everything was just OK. Nothing great, but solid enough. Went to the course and it was legitimately a struggle. Almost all of my tee shots were low and left. Just not hitting anything all that well. I mean, I did manage to hit a number of trees pretty solidly, but that's about all I can say. Managed to walk away with only one par, but at least I was able to walk the course since the weather has finally gotten a little cooler. It was honestly just an ugly round. I've been going through some swing changes and it got me thinking about how do you manage to play in the middle of making drastic swing changes. "my swing" is definitely flawed, but when I'm practicing and playing often enough, I can time it pretty well to be mostly effective. The idea behind the swing changes is to reduce the reliance on timing everything perfectly. Reduce variables so to speak. It's a rough transition for me, and so I go through periods of just awful results. Tomorrow I may go out the range and pure everything with the swing changes. It's just not there yet. So how does one stick through the bad rounds and keep going when I know I could just revert back to my "wrong" swing and put up better scores? Should I just forget about playing for a solid chunk of time until I have the swing changes grooved? Out on the course I find myself kind of half committed to the changes, and half relying on timing, and that leads to some very interesting results. 3 1 Quote All PXG Bag: Driver: 0811XF Gen 4 w/ Fujikura Motore X F3 6- 3 Wood: 0341XF Gen 4 w/ Mitsubishi Diamana S+ 70g Hybrids: 19 and 22 degree 0317XF Gen 4 w/ Project X Evenflow Riptide 80g Irons: 5-PW 0311P Gen 4 w/ KBS Tour 120 Wedges: 50, 54, 58 degree 0311 3X Forged w/ KBS Tour 120 Putter: Battle Ready Blackjack, 36.5”, Double Bend neck My 2021 review of the Spornia SPG-7 hitting net: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/tests/20-spornia-compact-hitting-net/?do=findReview&review=66 My PXG fitting at Orlando location: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/53343-the-experience-of-updating-an-old-bag/ My review of the 2023 Titleist White Box ProV1's: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/53743-2022-official-member-review-titleist-pro-v1pro-v1x-white-box/?do=findComment&comment=870552 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, RichL85 said: I've been going through some swing changes and it got me thinking about how do you manage to play in the middle of making drastic swing changes. "my swing" is definitely flawed, but when I'm practicing and playing often enough, I can time it pretty well to be mostly effective. The idea behind the swing changes is to reduce the reliance on timing everything perfectly. Reduce variables so to speak. It's a rough transition for me, and so I go through periods of just awful results. Tomorrow I may go out the range and pure everything with the swing changes. It's just not there yet. So how does one stick through the bad rounds and keep going when I know I could just revert back to my "wrong" swing and put up better scores? Should I just forget about playing for a solid chunk of time until I have the swing changes grooved? Out on the course I find myself kind of half committed to the changes, and half relying on timing, and that leads to some very interesting results. ... We have all been there. Just remember, it took Tiger about one full year to make a permanent swing change. That's hitting balls every day and having a coach help with his transition. So for Am's a swing change can be catastrophic when actually playing golf because you will be caught between swings. Your brain wants to do what it has done in the past so it is a constant battle. Everyone has their own path so no right answers. That said, I have always felt you should put thoughts on hold and just play golf. Save the changes for the living room, yard and especially the range. If you can't dedicate serious range time, a swing change will be darn near impossible. ... But you will be caught between what you have done and what you want to do with your swing, so just accept the good and the bad results. I know, I know it is easier said than done. There is also nothing wrong with committing to the swing change on the course and just playing poorly while the changes start to take hold as long as you are OK with really bad caught in-between two swings golf. But either way committing to one or the other is paramount because going back and forth will make both approaches frustrating. 7 Quote Driver: SIM2 Max 10.5* ... AD-IZ 6SR Fairway: SIM2 Max 15/18* ... Tensei Raw Blue 65R Hybrids: SIM2 Hybrid 19* ... Diamana Ltd 65R Utility: UDi 18* ... Even Flow Black 85R hy Irons: 4-9 MIM Tour ... Steelfiber i95R Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/58* LB ... Steelfiber i95R Putter: 6330 LTD Edition ... 33.5" Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour '22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CarlH Posted October 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2022 Better day today, despite strong winds. Drove the ball fairly well and my ball striking was better than it has been lately. Had 2 doubles (1 from an OB and one from sheer me-ism). Burned a lot of edges with the putts, so the score had potential to be quite a bit better than the 79 I carded. 10 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at -1 and neutral) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: Stroke Lab 7S Ball: Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: Pioneer...Shoes: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacTourney Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 6 hours ago, Lacassem said: Beautiful morning though so not all was lost. And had a single chip in which is good! Nice pics, thanks. 3 Quote The head tells the ball what to do, and the ball tells the head where to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 6 hours ago, Lacassem said: I walked off the course after 15 holes today…..I am so lost on my swing right now and only 2 weeks after one of my better ball striking rounds. So lost…. Beautiful morning though so not all was lost. And had a single chip in which is good! Relax, it’ll work it’s way out. You have a lot going on with new sticks that took forever and end of Fall coming up. You’ll work it out. 3 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; Titleist TSi2, Kuro Kage 50 gr 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacassem Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Rickp said: Relax, it’ll work it’s way out. You have a lot going on with new sticks that took forever and end of Fall coming up. You’ll work it out. Thanks Rick! 3 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Thank you to all those that have served/are serving and God Bless America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Lacassem said: Thanks Rick! 3 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; Titleist TSi2, Kuro Kage 50 gr 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, Rickp said: What are you going to do when we lose the emoji? 1 1 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Just now, Kenny B said: What are you going to do when we lose the emoji? Panic I guess!!! I just found that emoji last year 3 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; Titleist TSi2, Kuro Kage 50 gr 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Day 1 of our Fall Blitz two day tourney. Weather was awesome 66*-84*. I shot a 42/43:85 FIR 9/14 64% GIR 4/18 22% with 30 putts. I had 6 Up & Downs for 54%. Finished in 5th place heading to Day 2. $7k in winnings plus $4k in the Calcutta. 9 Quote Driver: 0211 w/Evenflo Riptide CB Regular shaft & 0811 XF w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Titleist T300 48* GW w/Fubuki MV Senior shaft and Edison forged 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER2 w/Evnroll Gravity Grip or Ping Ketsch Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Maxfli Tour CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope V3 and MG4000 Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang60 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 What a mess today, 1st hole 33deg doglegleft about, 2nd 165M 3Hybrid to 6ft sunk the putt birdie. Felt good and shouting to everyone I could SEE as I played alone, Bugger.... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryB Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Owen and I played a scramble outing with Mark and our other friend Kevin at Marengo Ridge yesterday. Cool temps and a steady breeze meant layering up and I've come to realize that I just can't play in those conditions, lol. Marengo is a tricky course; lots of trees and other hazards, plus a ton of doglegs and other blind shots. We didn't play badly but we also just never got on track. Approaches were routinely short for all of us and the ones that weren't short left miles of putts. Owen started out okay but since he'd turned 21 in August he's drinking a bit on weekend rounds. Since he doesn't drink often it hits him quickly and hard. He fell off on the back and also decided to leap a fence for an OB ball to predictably disastrous results. He's got a pretty scraped up knee and a severely wounded ego! Me, on the other hand; I have no excuses and just played poorly. I couldn't hit a putt on line all day and couldn't put together a string of good shots in general. Overall we went (-3) 69 to finish on the bottom third. We're already looking forward to it next year! 7 Quote Callaway Rogue ST Max D driver PXG 0211 3 wood and Tour Edge Bazooka 7 wood Titleist 21° hybrid Cobra AMP 5-PW Titleist Vokey SM7 50° 54° and SM8 60° wedges Ray Cook Silver Ray IV putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattF Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Got out with @Mr_Theoo and @MaxEntropy at Delaware Golf Club near Columbus today. Hit some good and some bad. 44/45 89. Found my driver on the back but just made some dumb mistakes. 8 Quote In the bag: Driver: TSi2 Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 6.0 Hybrid: Fli Hi 3 & 4 Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 80 6.0 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Alpha Convoy 514 Balls: RB Tour or RB Tour X Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the King, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Played pretty well with a sore back and 46º when we teed off. Shot a 42 on the front nine (+5) with a double on #3. Played the back nine at EVEN par 35 with 2 bogeys and 2 birdies... so 77. The highlight was on the short par 4 risk/reward hole #14. If the wind is right, I can drive the green; no wind today so I tried it anyway. Beautiful line at the flagstick, but when I hit it I knew that the trajectory wasn't high enough to cover the bunker that runs from 80y out all the way to the front of the green. Until this last year I never would try for the green, but my bunker play has been really good. Ball was in the bunker 20y from the pin, just short of the grass in front of the 3 foot elevated green. Beautiful 60º wedge shot to a foot for a tap-in birdie... thank you Monte for the bunker lessons!!! 8 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 3 hours ago, MattF said: Got out with @Mr_Theoo and @MaxEntropy at Delaware Golf Club near Columbus today. Hit some good and some bad. 44/45 89. Found my driver on the back but just made some dumb mistakes. Fun time, fun course. About the time Matt found his driver, mine went AWOL, but I still managed to mostly avoid the big numbers (two doubles) and scrambled around in 42/44 (par 71). 5 Quote Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: RAZR Fit TourAD something or other 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: Zipcore Black Satin 58* Putter: Stroke Lab Marxman Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x Pix Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Day 2 of our Fall Blitz. Did not perform like yesterday. Shot 45/45:90 with one birdie (Par 3 #7). Finished tied for 7th out of 37 with +4 for 2 days. My points quota was 19. Had a CTP on #7. FIR 10/14 71% GIR 3/18 17% with 34 putts with 3 lip outs under 2 feet! Ouch! 9 Quote Driver: 0211 w/Evenflo Riptide CB Regular shaft & 0811 XF w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Titleist T300 48* GW w/Fubuki MV Senior shaft and Edison forged 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER2 w/Evnroll Gravity Grip or Ping Ketsch Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Maxfli Tour CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope V3 and MG4000 Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregB135 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Last round was a very average 43/43-86. Only 3 GIR but still managed 8 pars with decent putting. 6 Quote Driver: PXG 211 Project X Evenflow CB, 50g 5.5 Fariway: PXG 211, 3-Wood Project X Evenflow CB, 60g 5.5 Hybrid: PXG 211, 3H Project X Evenflow H, 80g, 5.5 Irons: T300 4-5, T200 6-PW Nippon 880 Pro R Wedges: CBX2 50*, 54*, 58*, TT Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex Putter: ER2 Murdered Out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Got out yesterday afternoon for another round, but it wasn't quite as good as my Tuesday round - 39/38 for 77. I birdied the first hole, but that was it for the highlights. I just kept totally blowing a shot every couple holes. There was a lot of luck down the stretch to help me save some pars. Like on #7 I pull hooked my drive into trees, but then put a 3W on the green. Next hole I put my second into a bunker on a par 5, and missed the green short escaping it, but ran in a 12 footer for the par save, just odd stuff like that. Still nothing wrong with +5 (Net +1) They have 3 nines, and the holes 5-8 on my second 9 is a really tough stretch. The yardages are 425-435-410-595 and they always play into the wind. 7 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: Titleist 714CB 4-PW Wedges: Vokey SM5 & SM6 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cjeffs12 Posted October 17, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2022 So @crbishop entered a 2 man 36 hole event this weekend, and we came out victorious!!! Saturday was a scramble, and Sunday was a Chapman. Saturday we played fairly well, my swing felt good. We stayed fairly consistent. I could not lag putt to save my life, but Connor came in clutch with the lag putting. I had maybe the best putting of my life inside of 6 feet, I have never made so many putts. We had a 2 stroke lead after the Scramble on Saturday. I did not think I would have the nerves that I had on Sunday. My swing struggled under pressure, and the group that was 2 back was pair with us again on Sunday. They were a great group to play with, and they tied it up with 4 to play. It stayed that way until 18, we applied the pressure with a clutch par on 17 when Connor hit an impossible shot off the lip of a fairway bunker. It lead to them hitting really bad tee shots, then we stepped up and bombed drives that gave us wedges into the green. We made par and they doubled. It was a great learning moment for me, I can see how outcome thinking leads to poor outcomes. Once we lost the lead we got back into our thoughts of hitting our targets and the swing loosened up for me at that point. First victory for me, it was really cool to experience. 10 2 Quote Rogue ST LS 9* Project X HZRDUS Small Batch Green w/PVD 60 6.5 Sim Max 15* Accra TZ RPG 362 M5 P 790 UDI 2 Project X HZRDUS RDX Smoke Black 95 6.5 ZX7 4-PW Project X 6.0 RTX Zipcore 52.10 Mid, 56.10 Full Dynamic Gold TI Spinner RTX Zipcore Full Face 60.09 Dynamic Gold TI Spinner HB Soft Milled #4 UST ALL-IN 34.5” Chrome Soft X LS w/ Triple Track 3.5+ Push Cart Sensors w/ Caddie NX9 with Slope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjay0808 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Got one round in this weekend. I hadn't picked up a club for a couple weeks. Started solid Bogey, Double, Bogey, Bogey and shot Even... Seems standard, just not good for the heart 7 Quote In my bag: Driver: Speedzone Xtreme 9.0* Fujikura Motore X F1 6X Wood: Speedzone Tour Fujikura Motore X F1 7X Hybrids: King Utility 19.5* Diamana Tensei White Pro 90TX Irons: Srixon ZX5 4-6 (1 degree weak), ZX7 7-PW Project X 6.5 Wedges: Milled Grind 3 50*, 54*, 58* Tour Issue S400 Putter: Nashville Z1C 34" Ball: Tour B X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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