Titleist TSR 2 Unoffiical Review

[Golfspy_CG2]

40 minutes ago, Golfspy_TCB said:

One swing, non-fitted club, still got more distance on a side by side?  Yes Please.  Sounds like a bargain to me...

Consider I play ~100 rounds a year...  13 driver holes on average per round (a 3wood for position here and there).  That is 1,300 drivers.  5 yards gained per driver hole... that is 6,500 yards over the course of a year.  at a cost of $550... that is $0.0846 per yard gained. 

How can I afford NOT TO buy that driver...

I m going to include you in on all future clubs o offer for sale on the Classifieds..

What got me more was he commented to me a couple holes later.  After a poor drive.  “A 6.0 flex is too stiff for you.  It’s hurting your distance and accuracy”.

I told him actually that, no the weight of 50g is more important than the flex and my distance and accuracy (today not withstanding) is better with this than my TSi.   He countered with stiff flexes are for the guys that can hit it 275 or more

So yeah he knows more than a Titleist Fitter and more than I’ve learned from many of the top fitters I’ve met. Ha 

But yoi know it’s just like a thread I posted a yesr or so ago. How someone who is a good player (and he is….(about an 8 handicap) -assume they know more than someone that isn’t as good as them  and isn’t open to idea, that you may actually some knowledge even though you aren’t a single digit handicap.  
 

[GolfSpy TCB]

5 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

So yeah he knows more than a Titleist Fitter and more than I’ve learned from many of the top fitters I’ve met. Ha 

You better forward me his name so I can consult him when I am ready for my next driver fitting... haha.  

5 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

But yoi know it’s just like a thread I posted a yesr or so ago. How someone who is a good player (and he is….(about an 8 handicap) -assume they know more than someone that isn’t as good as them  and isn’t open to idea, that you may actually some knowledge even though you aren’t a single digit handicap.  

So true... It's like your handicap equates to Golf IQ.... nope.  If that were true... all the top teaching pros and coaches would be tour players dominating week after week.  They know the golf swing and fitters know the equipment nuances and what will work with each players swing... which are a lot like snowflakes... no two are the same.... I have mad respect for a good fitter.. I don't care what they shoot on Saturday with their bro's.  

[Golfspy_CG2]

2 hours ago, Golfspy_TCB said:

You better forward me his name so I can consult him when I am ready for my next driver fitting... haha.  

So true... It's like your handicap equates to Golf IQ.... nope.  If that were true... all the top teaching pros and coaches would be tour players dominating week after week.  They know the golf swing and fitters know the equipment nuances and what will work with each players swing... which are a lot like snowflakes... no two are the same.... I have mad respect for a good fitter.. I don't care what they shoot on Saturday with their bro's.  

See this is the problem with multiple quote posts.  
I wanted to laugh at your first one.  But didn’t want you to think I was laughing at your great point on the second one.  
 

It’d be nice to tag each post with an emoji.   
Put that on your first list of things to do as a MOD

[dlow206]

Rob likes Titleist drivers like I like Callaway drivers, always come back to them. 

[GolfSpy TCB]

On 9/3/2022 at 5:05 PM, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Put that on your first list of things to do as a MOD

I think they call that "Job Security"!  

[GolfSpy TCB]

TSR is now open for orders on Titleist.com.  

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[Berg Ryman]

I've got my fitting scheduled for Saturday and I'm starting to get excited. Intrigued to try some lighter driver shafts just to see and also intrigued by the fairway wood offerings, hopefully some form of 4 wood, even maybe to see if I might get rid of my beloved hybrid for a 6 or 7 wood.

[GolfSpy_APH]

Thinking I may go in for a TSR Driver fitting this week. Really think I could benefit from a upgrade and what these new ones have to offer.

[GolfSpy_KFT]

9 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Thinking I may go in for a TSR Driver fitting this week. Really think I could benefit from an upgrade and what these new ones have to offer.

My envy is immeasurable. Good luck and ENJOY! Love my TSi3!

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

14 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Thinking I may go in for a TSR Driver fitting this week. Really think I could benefit from a upgrade and what these new ones have to offer.

Have fun. I am so on the fence. I feel like something new can help my ball speed just a little. Number chasing is dangerous for me. Just need to realize golf is more than just numbers. 

[GolfSpy_APH]

4 minutes ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

Have fun. I am so on the fence. I feel like something new can help my ball speed just a little. Number chasing is dangerous for me. Just need to realize golf is more than just numbers. 

For me it is accuracy. I have a Mavrick Sub Zero which is great for distance, but I get so hurt on left to right that it just kills my game and rounds so often. Just wanting something I can have more confidence in really. Plus I have a tendency to spin the ball a little too much so maybe we can find something that is the best of both worlds. 

[DeBartola_B]

On 8/29/2022 at 6:09 PM, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I figured I'd start the unoffiical review on this club instead of posting all of it inthe TSR Launch thread.   It will probably be more helpful to everyone here.

So I receivede the TSR 2 Driver and Fairway wood on Friday.  I'll focus on the Driver here, and the fairway wood to come later.

 

Any update on the fairway wood?

 

The Main Blog post made it sound like it could be high and spinny which has scared me a little.

[GolfSpy TCB]

Me when the TSR was first announced:

 

 

 

[GolfSpy_KFT]

16 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

For me it is accuracy. I have a Mavrick Sub Zero which is great for distance, but I get so hurt on left to right that it just kills my game and rounds so often. Just wanting something I can have more confidence in really. Plus I have a tendency to spin the ball a little too much so maybe we can find something that is the best of both worlds. 

I have watched umteen thousand YouTube videos on fittings so far, and it seems like the TSR2 is really performing at a great level for most golfers. With an improved head shape, I have a feeling I would REALLY like it, so I need to try and stay away  I love the head shape and profile of the TSi3, but could certainly benefit from a slightly more forgiving head since my most consistent strike pattern is just slightly toe side of center face.

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

51 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

For me it is accuracy. I have a Mavrick Sub Zero which is great for distance, but I get so hurt on left to right that it just kills my game and rounds so often. Just wanting something I can have more confidence in really. Plus I have a tendency to spin the ball a little too much so maybe we can find something that is the best of both worlds. 

thats how it was with my EF SZ and why i blindly went Epic Max LS just for forgiveness. Now with my swing improvements it makes me wonder what i am missing out on

[GolfSpy BOS]

On 8/30/2022 at 6:22 PM, cnosil said:

Just looking at history and the good things I am hearing about the TSr line.    Rob and clubs staying in the bag is an oxymoron.   

That's why he keeps multiple bags! 

On 9/3/2022 at 3:38 PM, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I m going to include you in on all future clubs o offer for sale on the Classifieds..

What got me more was he commented to me a couple holes later.  After a poor drive.  “A 6.0 flex is too stiff for you.  It’s hurting your distance and accuracy”.

I told him actually that, no the weight of 50g is more important than the flex and my distance and accuracy (today not withstanding) is better with this than my TSi.   He countered with stiff flexes are for the guys that can hit it 275 or more

So yeah he knows more than a Titleist Fitter and more than I’ve learned from many of the top fitters I’ve met. Ha 

But yoi know it’s just like a thread I posted a yesr or so ago. How someone who is a good player (and he is….(about an 8 handicap) -assume they know more than someone that isn’t as good as them  and isn’t open to idea, that you may actually some knowledge even though you aren’t a single digit handicap.  
 

This idea of weight being more important than flex is new to me, but on the surface is makes a lot of sense.  I've always seemed to do better with shafts in the high 60g range regardless of S vs X.  Know of any work done on that end or it is more of something you picked up from experience? 

 

[dlow206]

11 minutes ago, GolfSpy_BOS said:

That's why he keeps multiple bags! 

This idea of weight being more important than flex is new to me, but on the surface is makes a lot of sense.  I've always seemed to do better with shafts in the high 60g range regardless of S vs X.  Know of any work done on that end or it is more of something you picked up from experience? 

 

I like to think of it as playing the wrong weight shaft could have more of a negative impact than being off on flex. There is more room to be off on shaft weight, especially with irons. 

But there is also consideration of how far off we are talking. In a driver, i could play a 50 gram class or 60 gram class shaft.

But in irons, i cannot play 130 grams shafts, but could play between 90 and 105 fine. 

[edingc]

3 hours ago, GolfSpy_BOS said:

This idea of weight being more important than flex is new to me, but on the surface is makes a lot of sense.  I've always seemed to do better with shafts in the high 60g range regardless of S vs X.  Know of any work done on that end or it is more of something you picked up from experience? 

Anecdotally, when I did my CC fitting in the spring my fitter was more concerned about weight than flex. For me personally, weight seems to help with my delivery while flex tends to lend itself more to feel. If that makes sense? My "stiff" SteelFiber i125s are heavy shafts but feel pretty active to me, while my Motore X driver shaft is heavier (69 grams) but feels more stout and less active in the X flex. 

[RickyBobby_PR]

4 hours ago, GolfSpy_BOS said:

This idea of weight being more important than flex is new to me, but on the surface is makes a lot of sense.  I've always seemed to do better with shafts in the high 60g range regardless of S vs X.  Know of any work done on that end or it is more of something you picked up from experience? 

Flex has no standard and it’s only comparable for shafts in the same line and weight class. The stiffness profile or what is commonly referred to as the EI profile is more important than the flex.

Shafts provide weight and feel. How the weight of the shaft, along with the way it influences weight of the club will have some impact on how a golfer swings. It’s the swing that determines what happen when club hits ball.

An example of shafts that play differently are the Ping tour X stiff shafts. The 75g plays softer than the 65g X stiff in that shaft.

 

[yungkory]

Reaaaallllllllyyyyyyyy wish they would stop making glossy finishes. I like that the TSR2 shape is more like the TSi3, but I just can't look down at a disco ball when I'm playing.

[GolfSpy BOS]

58 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Flex has no standard and it’s only comparable for shafts in the same line and weight class. The stiffness profile or what is commonly referred to as the EI profile is more important than the flex.

Shafts provide weight and feel. How the weight of the shaft, along with the way it influences weight of the club will have some impact on how a golfer swings. It’s the swing that determines what happen when club hits ball.

An example of shafts that play differently are the Ping tour X stiff shafts. The 75g plays softer than the 65g X stiff in that shaft.

 

Right, I understand that "X" vs "S" on a shaft really doesn't tell us very much.  What I found surprising is that what is suggested is that if I fit into a Ventus Blue profile, getting the 5, 6, or 7 part right is more important than the R, S, or X.

I'd imagine it's all still intertwined and you can't go crazy in either direction.  Just another little nuance to consider when being fit.  

Anyway, I don't want to take away from this thread being about Rob's TSR2.... but just so you know Rob, I'm going for a fitting at the local PGA Superstore next week... I have a good feeling I'll be matched up with a TSR2 @ 10* as well.  Slight chance the 3 will be a better fit.  I'd say 70/30 odds

just to reserve my spot in line:

 

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

Realized the GG near ikea where I have to get meatballs after my round Saturday I’d have their free event that day. Is it worth stopping in and testing? I know I have three other fitters that likely would do a better job. 

[RickyBobby_PR]

11 hours ago, GolfSpy_BOS said:

What I found surprising is that what is suggested is that if I fit into a Ventus Blue profile, getting the 5, 6, or 7 part right is more important than the R, S, or X.

I'd imagine it's all still intertwined and you can't go crazy in either direction.  Just another little nuance to consider when being fit.  

Correct and it could be different between head manufacturers. Ping using heavy heads if you fit into a 6 you might find that doesn’t feel right in a Callaway or you could fit into 6 either way but depending on the head design like where COG is you could fit into a X in one and S in another. 
 

What is an added benefit is that helps identify profile or profiles that work for you and makes blind buying/testing a little easier. Using ventus blue as an example you would find similar performances with other blue profiles (typically called a blue) but in design is firm butt, medium mid, firm+ tip or even medium,medium, stiff like the AD DI

[cnosil]

51 minutes ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

Realized the GG near ikea where I have to get meatballs after my round Saturday I’d have their free event that day. Is it worth stopping in and testing? I know I have three other fitters that likely would do a better job. 

It’s free and you get to hit the club,  why would that be bad?

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

50 minutes ago, cnosil said:

It’s free and you get to hit the club,  why would that be bad?

Reliable launch data. Fatigue from playing 18. Although the driver and 7w interest me in just trying out. Also more time away from family. 
 

edit: called. They have TrackMan and will be a Titliest rep. When in Rome…

[cnosil]

28 minutes ago, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

Reliable launch data. Fatigue from playing 18. Although the driver and 7w interest me in just trying out. Also more time away from family. 
 

edit: called. They have TrackMan and will be a Titliest rep. When in Rome…

The tired and family are things I can’t address.   Based on your post, I looked at my GG and all the slots I could attend are taken so it was an easy decision.  

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

4 minutes ago, cnosil said:

The tired and family are things I can’t address.   Based on your post, I looked at my GG and all the slots I could attend are taken so it was an easy decision.  

Ya I might just pull I’m having surgery card next week and say I am testing these, scratching an itch let’s say and not buying and reselling. Might go over a little better. For tiredness I could just get a cart for the round. 

[Middler]

20 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

For me it is accuracy. I have a Mavrick Sub Zero which is great for distance, but I get so hurt on left to right that it just kills my game and rounds so often. Just wanting something I can have more confidence in really. Plus I have a tendency to spin the ball a little too much so maybe we can find something that is the best of both worlds. 

Not trying to argue, but unless you're grossly misfit - I didn't think a driver can do anything to improve left-right dispersion, as that's a face to path issue? A new driver won't change face to path? All the talk of improving dispersion for drivers, and most clubs, is distance. I'm going to get fitted for and buy a TSR2 driver, 3W and 3H, but I don't expect to see any measurable change in left-right dispersion.

[Middler]

13 hours ago, yungkory said:

Reaaaallllllllyyyyyyyy wish they would stop making glossy finishes. I like that the TSR2 shape is more like the TSi3, but I just can't look down at a disco ball when I'm playing.

We all have different preferences, not suggesting one is better than another, but I simply wouldn't buy a matte finish driver or FW. Just a traditional thing for me I guess. I see people talk about looking down at clubs, I am only looking at the ball at address, and can't see the club once my backswing starts.

[GolfSpy_APH]

8 minutes ago, Middler said:

Not trying to argue, but unless you're grossly misfit - I didn't think a driver can do anything to improve left-right dispersion, as that's a face to path issue? A new driver won't change face to path? All the talk of improving dispersion for drivers, and most clubs, is distance. I'm going to get fitted for and buy a TSR2 driver, 3W and 3H, but I don't expect to see any measurable change in left-right dispersion.

Of course to an extent, however there is no question that sub zero driver versions are less forgiving and more prone to twisting than higher moi drivers.