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Awesome project. Can’t wait to see it shape up, you’re off to a great start! Jealous as my entire property is one long hill I could never even think about doing something like this 

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First step here: after choosing where I want the green, clear off all of the accumulated snow.

I'm a bit jealous, but also eager to follow your progress here.

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2 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

First step here: after choosing where I want the green, clear off all of the accumulated snow.

It’s not snow. It’s insulation for your potential golf green location. 

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Nice, double nice actually. Will be fun to follow the process. Don't forget to get the soil checked for acid content. With that pine so close it may impact the Bermuda a bit. If MPR could ship down some of that snow from the UP that would help compress and level...but may also keep the soil cooler for a while. Never mind. Good luck and have fun.

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8 minutes ago, sirchunksalot said:

Looking good so far, Tom! Looks like Ace is taking an interest in the area. I can't imagine you getting each of those loads of sand in your car, but then again, it does have a sizeable trunk. I love how well it looks to be starting out and I can't wait to see how the progress goes. 

Ace enjoys destroying pine cones. He came in to sneak off with one. I can’t wait for the soil temperature to get where it needs to be. I have to work on my patience. 

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6 minutes ago, Tom the Golf Nut said:

Ace enjoys destroying pine cones. He came in to sneak off with one. I can’t wait for the soil temperature to get where it needs to be. I have to work on my patience. 

It's hard sometimes to wait, especially when there's something you're excited about. Warmer weather is coming...at least that's what they tell me.

I'm glad Ace seems to be enjoying his new home. 

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1 minute ago, sirchunksalot said:

It's hard sometimes to wait, especially when there's something you're excited about. Warmer weather is coming...at least that's what they tell me.

I'm glad Ace seems to be enjoying his new home. 

Ace loves it. Free run of everything. The property is fenced in so he can run his butt off and chase squirrels several times a day. Truthfully, he is one of the smartest dogs I ever had.

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Always enjoy seeing and reading about your backyard greens and ability to chip on them, awesome way to practice your short game that is the strength of my game. ⛳

This project looks awesome, and like the winter, it seems to last a long time now but roll the calendar forward a few months and all the waiting will be mostly forgotten. 📆

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I just got notification that the seed is out for delivery.

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The seed delivered last Saturday. Today it was 80 and sunny and next week is all up in the 70's. I seeded today and raked it in. Then spent some time watering. And away we go.. Grow baby, grow. 

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Curious as to what the realistic timeline is for the grass to come in?  In my mind I'm picturing this as something that will take the whole season for the grass to come in / spread and fully choke out the old stuff and get you to a putting surface that you can actually use.  Although I bet the old stuff will die off pretty quickly once you mow the new stuff the first time.  Not familiar with the grass you have in your yard, but most types won't tolerate being cut down to 1/4".

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On 3/24/2023 at 11:08 AM, ChitownM2 said:

Curious as to what the realistic timeline is for the grass to come in?  In my mind I'm picturing this as something that will take the whole season for the grass to come in / spread and fully choke out the old stuff and get you to a putting surface that you can actually use.  Although I bet the old stuff will die off pretty quickly once you mow the new stuff the first time.  Not familiar with the grass you have in your yard, but most types won't tolerate being cut down to 1/4".

The manufacturer is claiming 5 to 7 days to sprout. The existing grass was centipede grass. It does not tolerate short cutting so so expect it to die off or get choked out in a month or two. Then I’m going to add a growth regulator. This limits upward growth and increases density. That will kill off anything left.

I did purchase enough seed that I can over seed if necessary. I believe this is a longer term project. It might take all season but you never know.

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While I'm waiting for the grass to grow, I thought I would investigate the reel mower and make any necessary modifications.

The first thing I found was the cutting blade reels were not making contact across the entire surface of the cut bar. Some quick adjustments on one side had me cutting paper across the entire surface.  Problem one solved. 

The second thing I wanted to do was to see if I could add another hole lowering the unit from its lowest position of .48 inches to around .25 inches" 

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I had enough room to do this (that is why I selected this model) but then I realized that if I just left the roller out of the hole completely it lowered the unit right down to the skid plate and cutting bar. Which just happened to be a 1/4 inch thick with a rolled-up edge to prevent digging. I'll try this out in a test area to see if I need to do anything or not. But peace of mind will want me to add the hole, so the roller is making contact with something to prevent digging. But we will see how it goes. 

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Cool project Tom!  It's been fun following your "Red Green" like projects.  I particularly like the leveling rake - a classic 😆👍.

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Mother Nature has been doing her thing.  We have growth!

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I did gently rake out all those browns things that fell off the pine trees after the photo. We had some winds Saturday and covered the neighborhood with those. Looks like this will be a long-term project. I don't know how long it take to get dense. I followed the manufacturer's directions for the amount of seed to use for the size of the area. I'll just have to wait and see how it grows. 

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I’m in awe of this work - following this thread for more ideas to (hopefully) do this in the future!

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Great project, Tom. Looking forward to seeing how it progresses 👍

I've eyed up an area in my garden to do something similar when the kids don't use their swings anymore as the wife suggested I could go back to lawn - might just be a really short cut lawn 🙂 

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This is great Tom, Can't wait to see how this turns out!

To protect the seed from animals/tree droppings and help germination, you can use a germination blanket. It helps by creating a greenhouse effect and protecting it from outside weather/animals/etc. Most sports fields use this method. I've used thin weed barrier before after but I'm sure you can find more info online. Just a thought.

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52 minutes ago, Dweed said:

Any updates Tom?

I’ll take a picture tomorrow. It’s starting to fill in but there are still some spots that are not. I’m just letting it do it’s thing for now. It’s getting watered daily with the in-ground sprinklers (that I didn’t even know were there) once I turned the system on.

I figured out why they gave me all the sand I wanted. It was river sand and it compacts a bit. I have to airate that area and then get some topsoil on it and order more seed. But really it isn’t looking that bad. 

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This is what it looks like so far.

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There still is a lot of filling in that needs to happen. But at least it’s doing something. This is cut at .4 inches. If I bring it down to 1/4 it will really show how much filling in needs to happen. You actually putt on the tips of the grass as you can see the blades are laying over making it look fuller than what it is. When I started the project there was a very good amount of sun. But now that everything is full with leaves there is more shade than sun. All greens need full sun or as much as possible. Time will tell if this is worth it or not. But unfortunately this is the best location for a green. Worst case is I have a chip to location. Probably the best scenario is I go artificial again. I just really didn’t want to get into that again. Plus with tall pines around the sap dripping onto artificial turf could be a problem.

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On 5/20/2023 at 8:23 PM, Tom the Golf Nut said:

This is what it looks like so far.

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There still is a lot of filling in that needs to happen. But at least it’s doing something. This is cut at .4 inches. If I bring it down to 1/4 it will really show how much filling in needs to happen. You actually putt on the tips of the grass as you can see the blades are laying over making it look fuller than what it is. When I started the project there was a very good amount of sun. But now that everything is full with leaves there is more shade than sun. All greens need full sun or as much as possible. Time will tell if this is worth it or not. But unfortunately this is the best location for a green. Worst case is I have a chip to location. Probably the best scenario is I go artificial again. I just really didn’t want to get into that again. Plus with tall pines around the sap dripping onto artificial turf could be a problem.

Tom, how's the reel mower and the height adjustment you talked about in an earlier post working?

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1 hour ago, JohnSmalls said:

Tom, how's the reel mower and the height adjustment you talked about in an earlier post working?

Actually, the reel mower is working just fine. I didn't have to add an extra hole. I just pull the pins let the rollers go past the last hole and it rides on the guard. I was going to still add the hole, but the grass is the problem. Turns out I had too much shade in the only really good area for the green. The original centipede grass took over everything I did. The grass looks great but it's the wrong grass and it can't be putted on even if it is cut low. There is also a pecan tree nearby. The squirrels keep dropping the shells on the green area. So, you have to hand pick the pieces or it jams up the reel mower. I'm just going to sink a cup in the area and use it for chipping practice. Then just mow it to an inch with my zero turn. 

The reel mower is still used for inside the pool area though. My big mower won't fit through the gate. 

Decision time will be next spring. I found a local sod company that has putting green turf. I will have to dig up everything level and sod it. But the shade and nuts still remain an issue. Option 2 is synthetic again. Kind of over that. Option 3 just go to the golf course that I'm a member at. 

I did seed with regular bermuda seed in a different area on the other side of the house that had bare spots and lots of shade as well and it is taking off and taking over the centipede grass. Maybe I just had some bad Yukon Bermuda seed or started planting to early?  

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