JudgeSmails Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I've never had one (someday pleeeease), but I'm curious, which of these scenarios would take away some of the prestige of the ACE? Some I think are obvious, but curious on everyone's opinion...maybe you've had one of these. 1. On a Par 3 (or executive) Course (I guess the only diff here is you get more shots at it, I would still count it) 2. During a scramble 3. The dreaded 'Playing by yourself w/ no witnesses' 4. They are repairing a tee box and have temporarily shortened the hole significantly (like it's normally a 180yd par 3 that is playing at 100yds) 5. Hit your first in the drink, re-tee and knock it in (yes this is technically just a par, but are you putting that ball on the shelf?) Any others you can think of, chime in Driver: TR20 10.5* Hybrids: Epic SuperHybrid 3 18* Epic 4h 23* Irons: JPX900 Hot Metal 5-GW Wedges: CBX2 52* 56* 60* Putter: EV8 Ball: Tour BXS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 A blind short par 4, or even a blind par 3 (played one thats 175yds over a large mound so you cannot see the green at all). or a complete mis-hit/thin that scuttles along the ground, round the edge of a bunker and smashes into the flag but falls in. Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Yeti Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Still chasing my first but I'd imagine I would have mixed feelings if I mishit or skulled it and it still found the hole. Cobra King F7+, VA drago 65 X, 9.5* Cobra F7 3/4 wood - hzrd red 15.5* MP-63 4-PW Cleveland 588 Tour Wedge (56*) OnCore Elixr all day every day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 ...playing in a tournament with a big prize for a h-i-1 but you make it on the par3 without the prize... Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Still chasing my first but I'd imagine I would have mixed feelings if I mishit or skulled it and it still found the hole. I saw exactly this at the 220yd 17th hole Queens course at Gleneagles. a 12 yr old boy topped a driver that ran all the way around steep contours onto a very long and hilly green and it found the bottom of the cup! The boy had turned away in disgust about his topped drive and didn't see it go in. We were all jumping for joy and he had a dark cloud over his head Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. 82 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 2. During a scramble It's interesting that you mention this one, because we were discussing this last night in our weekly Tuesday evening league, which is 6 years old, where we play every Tuesday during daylight savings time, and we've never had anyone make a hole-in-one in the six years in the league. Now, I'll give you two other scenarios that were similar to a hole-in-one in our league that happened, but we've never had an ace. Last year we had one guy who holed a 3 wood from the fairway on a par 5 for a double eagle. Two years ago I holed a 7 iron from 160 yards out in the fairway for an eagle on a par 4. I would actually say that the albatross is far more miraculous, considering you are most likely over 200+ yards out, probably hitting 3 wood or some other long club, which makes accuracy that much more difficult. But I do find it odd that with all of the players in our league (we averaged over 37 players a week this year, and over 900 golfers in total) that there has never been a hole-in-one. I guess that speaks to the significance of it, and how rare it truly is. G400 Driver XR 4 Fairway 16.5° Fli-Hi Utility Iron - 21° G Series 5-9 irons SM7 46°, 50°, 54° & 58° Ghost Spider S putter Nexus Laser Rangefinder Garmin Approach S20 GPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy MPR Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Gimmicky pin placement (this might go with "during a scramble" as mentioned above) in which all balls funnel toward the hole. TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX T3 15°, Project X HZRDUS Black Epic Super Hybrid 18°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW CBX 48° T22 54° and 60° EAS 4.0, Garsen G-Pro grip TP5x and Tour Response Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Yeti Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I saw exactly this at the 220yd 17th hole Queens course at Gleneagles. a 12 yr old boy topped a driver that ran all the way around steep contours onto a very long and hilly green and it found the bottom of the cup! The boy had turned away in disgust about his topped drive and didn't see it go in. We were all jumping for joy and he had a dark cloud over his head "better lucky than good" sometimes I guess. That scenario would definitely spoil a hole in one for me. I'd feel like I'd won a lottery of sorts, none of the sense of accomplishment you get from a good shot or round. Cobra King F7+, VA drago 65 X, 9.5* Cobra F7 3/4 wood - hzrd red 15.5* MP-63 4-PW Cleveland 588 Tour Wedge (56*) OnCore Elixr all day every day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyNiblick Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 A three after a stroke and distance penalty would certainly not go on the wall. A temporary tee just makes it a shorter hole-in-one, but I can see that a real hole not being aced could take away from the rush. A scramble wouldn't detract for me. A playing partner didn't make the ace. You did. Playing by yourself eliminates certification, but you would know. A bit of a diminishing factor because you have to buy the plaque yourself. An executive course wouldn't diminish anything for me. I enjoyed playing them once in a while, and I did. I can't imagine a blind par three. A short par four that's only blind from the tee would take away from the thrill a little, i suppose. To me, any blind shot not caused by a bad drive is a call for a bulldozer. I broke all odds NOT making one in the long time that I played. I've made more than one on a pitch and putt course--shorter and smaller than a real executive course, but that wouldn't count. I've made a double eagle two. No plaques for that. Didn't even save the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Nothing. I've done the Short Par 4 blind tee shot ace. The 113 yard Ace. And the Re-Tee for a par “ace†I only have one of the balls saved. And it is the one I made with my son that the course wouldn't honor because my witness was “too youngâ€. Putting a ball in the hole from even 2 yards off the green should be more celebrated. You are putting a tiny arse ball in a tiny arse hole from anywhere. Shoot... even a 10'+ putt should be more celebrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudgeSmails Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 A three after a stroke and distance penalty would certainly not go on the wall. A temporary tee just makes it a shorter hole-in-one, but I can see that a real hole not being aced could take away from the rush. A scramble wouldn't detract for me. A playing partner didn't make the ace. You did. Playing by yourself eliminates certification, but you would know. A bit of a diminishing factor because you have to buy the plaque yourself. An executive course wouldn't diminish anything for me. I enjoyed playing them once in a while, and I did. I can't imagine a blind par three. A short par four that's only blind from the tee would take away from the thrill a little, i suppose. To me, any blind shot not caused by a bad drive is a call for a bulldozer. I broke all odds NOT making one in the long time that I played. I've made more than one on a pitch and putt course--shorter and smaller than a real executive course, but that wouldn't count. I've made a double eagle two. No plaques for that. Didn't even save the ball. I woulda saved that albatross ball no doubt... Driver: TR20 10.5* Hybrids: Epic SuperHybrid 3 18* Epic 4h 23* Irons: JPX900 Hot Metal 5-GW Wedges: CBX2 52* 56* 60* Putter: EV8 Ball: Tour BXS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy MPR Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Closely related to the topped shot that scuttles along the ground into the hole would be another letdown of a hole-in-one: the shank or pull that ricochets off a tree onto the green and into the cup. TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX T3 15°, Project X HZRDUS Black Epic Super Hybrid 18°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW CBX 48° T22 54° and 60° EAS 4.0, Garsen G-Pro grip TP5x and Tour Response Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiftyNiblick Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I woulda saved that albatross ball no doubt... You're right, Judge--I should have in retrospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 If I somehow have to re-tee and hit 3 off the tee, I am not aiming for the pin. I will stop playing golf if make a "1 for 3" There wouldn't be a more miserable golf feeling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 There is a guy back home that many years before I was even alive scored a the water hazard "ace" and has claimed it as legit since then. Thankfully there are people who admit this caveat for him. That plaque and ball belong in the pond with his original tee shot. Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Yeti Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Closely related to the topped shot that scuttles along the ground into the hole would be another letdown of a hole-in-one: the shank or pull that ricochets off a tree onto the green and into the cup. Assist in one - tree gets the points like all other sports with scoring. Cobra King F7+, VA drago 65 X, 9.5* Cobra F7 3/4 wood - hzrd red 15.5* MP-63 4-PW Cleveland 588 Tour Wedge (56*) OnCore Elixr all day every day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 If I somehow have to re-tee and hit 3 off the tee, I am not aiming for the pin. I will stop playing golf if make a "1 for 3" There wouldn't be a more miserable golf feeling Freddie wasn't feeling miserable when he did it at The Players on #17. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 A good friend of mine who help introduce me to the game back in 1991 had an Ace at his home course in Naples, FL about 10 years ago. He was 82. His son was playing with him. His son's account of it was that the final hole of the course was a par 3 with a pond in front of the green, but there was fairway around the pond on the left. His dad hit driver intending to fade it around the pond, which he did. However, the ball never left the ground, all the way to the hole. It was his 2nd hole-in-one. His first came at age 41. Naturally, he thought his 3rd would come at age 123. He passed away at age 85 while playing on that golf course. To me... they are all Aces except #5. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullldog Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I've never had one (someday pleeeease), but I'm curious, which of these scenarios would take away some of the prestige of the ACE? Some I think are obvious, but curious on everyone's opinion...maybe you've had one of these. 1. On a Par 3 (or executive) Course (I guess the only diff here is you get more shots at it, I would still count it) Had the course pretty much to myself & was playing 2 balls. #10 a 147 yrd hole. Dropped the 2nd ball in. Of course I didn't count it as a H. I. O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palvord Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Nothing. With a caveat. If I get to write a 1 on the scorecard, I don't care how it happens. If I hit the ball in the water and then in the hole, it's 3 on the card so not a hole-in-one IMO Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy In my Ultralight Stand Bag: Driver: Rogue 10.5° - LH - Project X EvenFlow 60 Stiff Woods: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue TS 7 Stiff King F9 - LH - 5/6 Wood - Atmos Blue TS 7 Stiff Irons: King F9 - LH - 5-GW - KBS C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° - KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 Stiff Putter: - Impact No. 3 Ball: Maxfli TourX Rangefinder: LX5 Watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Absolutely nothing would make my hole in one feel less significant. I've had a handful of within inches, but still looking to join the ranks. G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excourse Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Still chasing my first but I'd imagine I would have mixed feelings if I mishit or skulled it and it still found the hole.That's pretty much how I got my one and only, no mixed feelings at all. With my l.o.f.t I consider it a gift from the golf gods for playing in the rain that day. Sent from my SM-N950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app Wishon clubs, Odyssey CS stroke lab putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1. On a Par 3 (or executive) Course (I guess the only diff here is you get more shots at it, I would still count it) I'd count it too. In fact I'll be playing an 18-hole par three course next week. If I make a 1 it's a 1. With our gambling I'd say get out your wallet fellows. 2. During a scramble Hate scrambles but will play them once in a long while for a charity I support. Still.... it's an Ace! Kind of like when I made my HIO during a partnership tournament. Legit. 3. The dreaded 'Playing by yourself w/ no witnesses' Hasn't happened to me while alone but... should I make one I'll certainly tell my friends. They'd rib me for sure. 4. They are repairing a tee box and have temporarily shortened the hole significantly (like it's normally a 180yd par 3 that is playing at 100yds) It's still an Ace! But I wouldn't want it printed in the paper. 5. Hit your first in the drink, re-tee and knock it in (yes this is technically just a par, but are you putting that ball on the shelf?) No Ace. Lot's of vomit. My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1-4 are all the same for me. All holes in one and I am really happy about it. 5- well, it isn't a hole in one and I would be terribly disappointed BUT I would still keep the ball as it would be my longest hole out ever. I have had tons of near misses but no HIOs. (Yet) P.S Hey, this is my 1000th post! 😄 Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUDque Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 What about a non-official shot? Example: A while back on business, we snuck in some golf on a travel day. Didn't have enough daylight for 18 but still had some left after 9. We decided to play closest to the pin for a dollar from 10 tee over a pond to one of the back 9 greens (140ish yards). I hit a pink rock ball that landed on the "front" but the green sloped away from us so severely the hole couldn't be seen. Threw my PW into my bag and drove over to the green. Didn't find it so I figured it was lost and only found out it went in when one of the other guys walked by the hole. Double whammy. Didn't see it go in and didn't hit it during a real round. As far as I'm concerned, it didn't happen. Edit: No chance, they didn't pay their dollars In my Pisa, riding on a 3.5+ G410+ EXS 5W King F7 Hy i500 5-GW Equalizer 56/60 Heppler Ketsch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 You still bought a round of drinks? What about a non-official shot? Example: A while back on business, we snuck in some golf on a travel day. Didn't have enough daylight for 18 but still had some left after 9. We decided to play closest to the pin from 10 tee over a pond to one of the back 9 greens for a dollar. I hit a pink rock ball that landed on the "front" but the green sloped away from us so severely the hole couldn't be seen. Threw my PW into my bag and drove over to the green. Didn't find it so I figured it was lost and only found out it went in when one of the other guys walked by the hole. Double whammy. Didn't see it go in and didn't hit it during a real round. As far as I'm concerned, it didn't happen. Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 What about a non-official shot? Example: A while back on business, we snuck in some golf on a travel day. Didn't have enough daylight for 18 but still had some left after 9. We decided to play closest to the pin from 10 tee over a pond to one of the back 9 greens for a dollar. I hit a pink rock ball that landed on the "front" but the green sloped away from us so severely the hole couldn't be seen. Threw my PW into my bag and drove over to the green. Didn't find it so I figured it was lost and only found out it went in when one of the other guys walked by the hole. Double whammy. Didn't see it go in and didn't hit it during a real round. As far as I'm concerned, it didn't happen. That in my mind is a Hole in One. Did the ball go in the hole? Yes Was it on the first shot? Yes Was it from the tee box? Yes Therefore, it is a hole in one to me. EDIT: Nevermind, didn't see that it wasn't to the 10th green. Not a hole in one but really great shot. Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geez2323 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 The is a hole at Coyote Lakes here in AZ, #13 100 yards on a good day. A guy I was playing with to be funny hit a chipper club and bounced it in. After 4!or five bounces. Was absolutely hilarious . To this day the ugliest great shot I have ever seen, if that makes sense. I would say it would be bitter sweet to hit a topped shot or a shank and hole out, I would take it, just would take some of the glory away from it. Like was said above lucky to be lucky than good sometimes. I have had one ace in my life. 142 yard #12 at Los Caballeros In Wickenburg AZ. 9 iron about 10 feet passed the pin and spun it back it. The only down fall is I was using a Pro V ball with a Prudential logo, so now I have the ball on display with the annoying logo. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluggo42 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Still without... TSr2 on tensi blue stiff Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S Epic Max 5 and 7 woods on HZRDUS Reg flex Paradym 9 wood on HZRDUS reg flex P770 / P790 combo set on Ventus R-6 shafts 6-AW T22 Denim Copper 54°, 58° on Kinetic X Trajectory ER3 or, E.A.S. #4 (“Fang” or “Adele”) ProV1x, or, Maxfli Tour X .Org 14 cart bag Adidas Tour 360 , or Sketcher shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtracymog Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 If I aced 17 and the entire rest of the round was complete garbage, I would be pretty disappointed. My buddy made his ace in a scramble and we all went crazy. My cousin in the other cart sprinted the last 60 or so yards to the green to see if it had actually gone in. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Cortex w/MGS Motore X F1 7X tipped 1" F5 17 degree hybrid w/Rogue Black 85X C300 Forged 3-5 w/C-Taper 130X FG Tour V6 5-6 w/C-Taper 130X Staff Model Blade 7-PW w/C-Taper 130X RTX4 52, 56, 60 w/S400 Tour Issue ER7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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