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Back from my Trackman session today.  When I ended stage 2 last spring my max with the SuperSpeed radar was 110 mph and about 105 on a trackman.  Earlier this week I was hitting 118 on the radar and today hit 111.5 mph on the Trackman.  This was also a semi-controlled swing to make sure I was making solid contact and not just swinging for the fences every time.
Overall my average today was 108.6mph.  My only complaint for the session is the facility was using last year's Callaway Chrome Soft balls for the test.  I asked if I could hit some of my own Srixon Z-Stars, but they said that wasn't an option since the Callaways all had metal dots on them to help the Trackman pick up the indoor flight.  Apparenlty they've never heard of Soft = Slow.
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Hilarious because I’m SURE they have sheet-after-sheet of those silver dots! One or two dots would kill them?! When I was doing my iron fitting at CC I dotted a dozen Pro V1X! He pulled-out a huge tape roll of those things! They had thousands of those silver stickers!!


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8 hours ago, tchat07 said:

@buckycc those are some crazy low spin numbers. What is your set up with your driver?

I was extremely suprised at that too.  When I had a fitting on a Trackman last year my spin numbers were around 2600 which seems much more normal.  They mentioned they were having issues getting the Trackman to pick up shots right away so it may have been an issue with the system.

I was actually thinking about contacting them and seeing if I could head back for a short session to verify the numbers.  I don't want to potentially spend $300+ on a new driver shaft (the winner was the Ventus Blue) based on faulty numbers.

Plus it would give me an extra week training with the SuperSpeed sticks so maybe I can unlock another MPH or two!

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I was extremely suprised at that too.  When I had a fitting on a Trackman last year my spin numbers were around 2600 which seems much more normal.  They mentioned they were having issues getting the Trackman to pick up shots right away so it may have been an issue with the system.
I was actually thinking about contacting them and seeing if I could head back for a short session to verify the numbers.  I don't want to potentially spend $300+ on a new driver shaft (the winner was the Ventus Blue) based on faulty numbers.
Plus it would give me an extra week training with the SuperSpeed sticks so maybe I can unlock another MPH or two!

What were the numbers with your current driver?
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3 hours ago, cnosil said:

What were the numbers with your current driver?

Here are the averages for the Ventus Blue and my stock Hzrdus Smoke shaft.  Both were in the Epic Flash Sub Zero head, 10.5°, neutral weight and hosel settings.  Same club head speed but pretty big improvements in carry and total yards.

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And below are the numbers for a Trackman fitting I had in December 2018 before I really got in deep with the SuperSpeed program.  Pretty big jump in club head and ball speeds but that huge drop in spin rate really has me confused.  I'm going to try to go back next week to hit on the other Trackman they have in the shop to verify everything.

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4 Hybrid: :cobra-small:F9, Fujikura ATMOS 7 Stiff
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1 hour ago, Bucky CC said:

Here are the averages for the Ventus Blue and my stock Hzrdus Smoke shaft.  Both were in the Epic Flash Sub Zero head, 10.5°, neutral weight and hosel settings.  Same club head speed but pretty big improvements in carry and total yards.

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And below are the numbers for a Trackman fitting I had in December 2018 before I really got in deep with the SuperSpeed program.  Pretty big jump in club head and ball speeds but that huge drop in spin rate really has me confused.  I'm going to try to go back next week to hit on the other Trackman they have in the shop to verify everything.

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Side note, those are some impressive changes to attack angle, path and face-to-path in a year, to go along with your added club speed.

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1 hour ago, Bucky CC said:

Here are the averages for the Ventus Blue and my stock Hzrdus Smoke shaft.  Both were in the Epic Flash Sub Zero head, 10.5°, neutral weight and hosel settings.  Same club head speed but pretty big improvements in carry and total yards.

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And below are the numbers for a Trackman fitting I had in December 2018 before I really got in deep with the SuperSpeed program.  Pretty big jump in club head and ball speeds but that huge drop in spin rate really has me confused.  I'm going to try to go back next week to hit on the other Trackman they have in the shop to verify everything.

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That drop in spin has everything to do with your attack angle and club path.  Swinging down on the ball + out to in path with an open face will increase spin.

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7 hours ago, Bucky CC said:

Here are the averages for the Ventus Blue and my stock Hzrdus Smoke shaft.  Both were in the Epic Flash Sub Zero head, 10.5°, neutral weight and hosel settings.  Same club head speed but pretty big improvements in carry and total yards.

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I wouldn't worry about the differences between the two sessions;  as someone else posted probably due to swing changes.  Just my thought, and I didn't sleep at a holiday in espress but looking at the numbers above,  I think your numbers are just what they are and probably are just due to the settings on the LM and the 300 RPM differnece is because you hit up another 1.3* on average

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I have decided to jump back in on the SuperSpeed training. I've been bad about keeping up with the protocols since the heart of the golf season last year, and seeing others on here getting back into the swing of things (no pun intended), it has inspired me to do the same.

I'm looking to go with twice a week, for now, with a heavy work schedule coming up. Five days a week and probably eleven hours a day with it taking me until 6:45 to get home. Once March hits and we go to more consistent 9 hour days ( hopefully) I might be able to get back to training 3 days a week.

I haven't done a proper swing speed test to get a starting point for this round, I did one a few weeks ago and registered 92.8 and I'll possibly get out this coming weekend since it takes a while to get to the jump phase.

As for today, it was a good session and surprisingly my numbers were decent.20200126_154907-01.jpeg

I'm down a bit right handed, but the left hand swing of 112 matched the high I got during my initial training. I did lose 9 mph from the best I had right handed. I still hate the yellow stick and question whether I should eventually buy the red one since my current driver is heavier than the one I had initially. My speeds are too bunched up between yellow and green, and it just bothers me. It's something I'll look into after getting a few weeks in, if I don't see any decent gains with it.

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Well, January was pretty much a wasted month as far as SS training goes.  Turned out to be a very busy month both at home and at work, so I was only able to get in 6 SS sessions for the whole month.  Only got to the gym about the same, and on top of that, have been cutting calories to try and get rid of the 6 or 7 lbs I put on since Thanksgiving (my annual physical is coming up, so there's some incentive 😉).  The past 2 sessions, my speed is way down.

What I learned:  not going to the gym + calorie deficit is counter productive.  At 57, I lose any gains I make pretty fast when I miss time at the gym or at SS.  I did knock off 3 pounds though.  Anyway, time to get back on the stick, eat a little more, and back into a good gym/ss routine.  Going to visit my brother-in-law in Florida at the end of Feb and bringing my clubs, so I have a month to get back to where I was at the end of December.

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On 1/26/2020 at 4:09 PM, sirchunksalot said:

I have decided to jump back in on the SuperSpeed training. I've been bad about keeping up with the protocols since the heart of the golf season last year, and seeing others on here getting back into the swing of things (no pun intended), it has inspired me to do the same.

I'm looking to go with twice a week, for now, with a heavy work schedule coming up. Five days a week and probably eleven hours a day with it taking me until 6:45 to get home. Once March hits and we go to more consistent 9 hour days ( hopefully) I might be able to get back to training 3 days a week.

I haven't done a proper swing speed test to get a starting point for this round, I did one a few weeks ago and registered 92.8 and I'll possibly get out this coming weekend since it takes a while to get to the jump phase.

As for today, it was a good session and surprisingly my numbers were decent.20200126_154907-01.jpeg

I'm down a bit right handed, but the left hand swing of 112 matched the high I got during my initial training. I did lose 9 mph from the best I had right handed. I still hate the yellow stick and question whether I should eventually buy the red one since my current driver is heavier than the one I had initially. My speeds are too bunched up between yellow and green, and it just bothers me. It's something I'll look into after getting a few weeks in, if I don't see any decent gains with it.

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I think you are right, probably makes sense to get the red club.  

I was complaining about being busy, but your schedule is definitely worse!  

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I think you are right, probably makes sense to get the red club.  
I was complaining about being busy, but your schedule is definitely worse!  
It's definitely something I'm going to look into once I pass the six week mark, I am curious to see if my gains are different this time around compared to the first go round with the training.

Speaking of which, I did a swing speed test today at the range and I'm back where I started originally. I was only able to average 88.2 mph today and couldn't hit my driver to save my life. I topped everything and a lot of my shots didn't make it past the first pole that was sitting at 30 yards. It was one of the most embarrassing days I've had with a driver in a long time and also very frustrating. I was actually very discouraged with my ability to play this game but then I thought there's no where to go but up. The ball striking was an anomaly and my irons were crisp. Well now is on to week 2 and faster speeds!



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It's definitely something I'm going to look into once I pass the six week mark, I am curious to see if my gains are different this time around compared to the first go round with the training.

Speaking of which, I did a swing speed test today at the range and I'm back where I started originally. I was only able to average 88.2 mph today and couldn't hit my driver to save my life. I topped everything and a lot of my shots didn't make it past the first pole that was sitting at 30 yards. It was one of the most embarrassing days I've had with a driver in a long time and also very frustrating. I was actually very discouraged with my ability to play this game but then I thought there's no where to go but up. The ball striking was an anomaly and my irons were crisp. Well now is on to week 2 and faster speeds!



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My experience first time around was that there were a couple of brief periods of swing adjustment where I didn’t hit it that well. This far it hasn’t happened to me after four weeks but I’m going much slower with my workouts, twice a week, more rest between swings, comparable speeds to the end of level 1 from a year ago.

Hang in there and be patient, anything can happen on a given day. That’s not a pattern.


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My experience first time around was that there were a couple of brief periods of swing adjustment where I didn’t hit it that well. This far it hasn’t happened to me after four weeks but I’m going much slower with my workouts, twice a week, more rest between swings, comparable speeds to the end of level 1 from a year ago.

Hang in there and be patient, anything can happen on a given day. That’s not a pattern.


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@revkev I really appreciate the feedback! Like you, I'm planning on doing the training twice a week and am seeing swings with the sticks comparable with the end of the first set of protocols. I think the driver problems were a combination of over swinging and frustration. I get a little too competitive with myself and need to remind myself that I'm out there for fun and not doing this for a living.

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So today remained interesting. I was faster lefty for the first half plus of the workout - like toward the end of my workouts faster.

As I went on - I got right to the end of my level one righty speeds and consistently so. Also I didn’t workout with my grandson who is my name sake - can we say beyond fun.


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I finished the final session (No. 18 in total) of the level one protocol Tuesday evening. I'm very happy that I was able to consistently get these workouts in. Looking back I didn't miss a single scheduled session since I started on Dec. 23, taking at least one but never more than two days off between sessions.

For a refresher, last year I built my DIY sticks and started the protocols, working through them for most of the summer until early fall. I don't have the numbers from all of my original training sessions, but I found max numbers from a session last February:

Green - 126 MPH
Blue - 123 MPH
Red - 118 MPH

In addition to the level one protocol, this time around, I completed the Fit for Golf offseason routine (started in late October until early January) and am now doing compound lifts (bench, squat, deadlift) at home. Below are the stats from my last session:

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And overall max speeds during this go-around, along with a trend line. I hit a new personal best 145 with the green club once during this period.

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I'm very happy with my progress. Some of this I would attribute to changing swing mechanics after a few lessons with my instructor. I used to have a very inside takeaway, which carried over to my SuperSpeed swings, and I'm working on correcting that. I've noticed better speeds with both real clubs and the sticks since implementing that change.

I've also moved my SuperSpeed work to before my actual workouts. As the weights of my lifts increased, I was finding it difficult to not be exhausted before even starting the sticks. I now do a quick warm-up (taken from Fit for Golf's warm-up manual), the SuperSpeed training and then do my lifts.

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Sure wish I was able to continue with this but my hip surgery got in the way.  😢


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1 hour ago, golfinnut said:

Sure wish I was able to continue with this but my hip surgery got in the way.  😢

How are you doing now?

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Just now, revkev said:

How are you doing now?

No pain in the hip anymore which is good.  But my back is still jacked up.  Before I had pain in the back & the hip, so I couldn't really differentiate the two.  Now I really feel it in the back now that I'm walking the way God intended me to.  Still lacking strength in the right leg for sure.  Plus I'm still conscious of it in my golf swing too.  I swing as though my hip is the Old hip, so I don't get back on my right side.  I tell ya .... getting old sucks! 

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15 minutes ago, golfinnut said:

No pain in the hip anymore which is good.  But my back is still jacked up.  Before I had pain in the back & the hip, so I couldn't really differentiate the two.  Now I really feel it in the back now that I'm walking the way God intended me to.  Still lacking strength in the right leg for sure.  Plus I'm still conscious of it in my golf swing too.  I swing as though my hip is the Old hip, so I don't get back on my right side.  I tell ya .... getting old sucks! 

That's a bummer and yes getting old is a full time job.

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Did my second workout for the week and then hit balls on the range. Averaged 97.6 on the radar for 8 driver swings. Hit 104 top. That’s faster than the end of level one as a tester so speed is coming back. I think I will move on to level 2 workouts next week but still keep it at 3 rather than moving to 4 swings.

Going to the putting green - chilly day in Florida, low 60’s. Brrrr


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