Popular Post null Posted June 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2019 I have always been fascinated by the science of golf, particularly the fitting aspects. I always wondered if my equipment was truly optimized for me and how I could ever figure out if it was. Over the last two years, I’ve dove head first into understanding more about golf equipment and the fitting process. My main source of information has been Ian Fraser and the Tour Experience Golf (TXG) youtube channel. Ian is a veteran of the golf industry who worked his way up in TaylorMade, then went onto work for True Spec golf, until Ian finally created TXG. TXG HQ is located in Toronto, Canada and is, alongside True Spec, one of the premier golf equipment fitters in the world. As Ian began to grow his youtube channel, I started interacting with him more, I became a Patreon Supporter to get additional access to him and his team outside of the youtube videos. I loved Ian’s approach to fitting and just how knowledgeable he was about everything. Our own Golfspy CG2 made the trek up to Toronto for a fitting he raved about the experience (and we got to watch most of it on the TXG youtube channel). I spoke to my wife and she agreed that for my 40th birthday (in 2024), we would go to Toronto and I could get a full bag fitting from Ian and I would be set on my equipment for a long long time. To hold me over until, I used things I learned from Ian, as well as direct recommendations from him, to build my current set. I felt like it was a good fit - but I still didn’t have that peace of mind from being properly fit from someone as knowledgeable as Ian. Well, it turns out I didn’t have to wait that long at all for a tour-quality fitting experience. I won the True Spec PGA Championship contest on Instagram, and with that came a free full bag fitting (everything but the putter) at a True Spec location of my choosing. The closest location to me is one of their flagship stores in New York City, so I called and made the appointment for June 7th. Knowing Ian had worked at True Spec, I contacted him and asked about what should expect and who I could potentially be fit by at the NYC location. He mentioned that he was good friends with one of their top fitters in NYC, Loren David. I contacted True Spec to ask who would be performing my fitting and they confirmed it was Loren. I was stoked. I knew that this would be one of the best golf experiences of my life. But it wasn’t one of the best - it was THE best. Fast forward to June 7th. I pack up my clubs, some sports drinks, and some trail mix and board the train for NYC. When I arrived at Penn Station, the weather was absolutely perfect so rather than get a cab, I walked to True Spec. I got some pretty funny looks as I traversed the concrete jungle with my Sun Mountain on my back, but being in New York there were far more interesting people walking around to take the attention away from me. I was going into this fitting with an open mind. I wasn't looking to replace anything in my bag just for the sake of getting something new. It was all about performance. When I arrived at True Spec, I took a deep breath and walked through the door. I was politely greeted by the receptionist and led to my hitting bay where I was told I could warm up until Loren arrived. When Loren arrived he introduced himself and we began small talk as he began setting up the GC Quad and his software. He asked about my game, my clubs, and what I hoped to get out everything today. I had to drop that I had been interacting with his good buddy Ian for almost two years now and what I had in my bag was in large part to the knowledge I gained from him. I mentioned that I had received the G410 Plus through MyGolfSpy and Loren said he knew Adam as well. Throughout the fitting, I learned that Loren knows just about EVERYBODY in the golf business. Ian Fraser, Adam Beach, Will Peoples, etc. If I named someone, Loren had a connection. We were also watching the ShopRite LPGA event on the TV during my fitting and Loren was rooting on some of his favorite players. I come to learn that he personally has fitted many of them since their high school and college days. We talked about Maria Fassi and her incredible swing and how he has worked with her for many years and thinks she will dominate the tour very soon. These types of conversations almost made me pinch myself. Here is a guy that fits professionals, top amateurs, celebrities and professionals from other sports (he fit former New York Yankee Mark Teixeira earlier in the week), and now he is going to fit me? Just crazy. So now, onto the good stuff - the actual fitting. Loren explained the process: we’d start with irons, then moving into gapping and the driver, and then finish with wedges. He asked if I had any preferences and I said that I was open to anything, but no Callaway products (that discussion is for another day). I hit my 6 irons enough so he could see my numbers and patterns and asked what I’d like out of my irons. I immediately answered “more consistency”. He agreed that I didn’t need any more distance and we would focus on precision and consistency. He went and grabbed 5 heads from the drawer and the Modus 120x shaft so we could start our fitting. We started with the Modus shaft in all of the heads because he knew I was familiar with how the shaft would feel throughout the swing, so it would help us identify which heads to focus on. The heads that he chose for me were the Srixon 785, Ping Blueprint, TaylorMade P760, Mizuno 919 Tour and Mizuno MP18 MMC. I started with the Srixon 785 and while it was good, it was very similar to the 765 and we just didn’t see anything that jumped out at us. The Ping Blueprint was next and man this was such a great looking and feeling iron - but boy was it small. I actually hit it pretty well, but it has such a sharp leading edge and the poor turf interaction was leading to inconsistent strikes. The Mizuno MMC put ups om great ballspeed numbers, but the slightly wider sole was not a good match for my extremely shallow angle of attack. We followed that up with the Mizuno 919 Tour and started seeing some much more consistent shots. Contact was better, and the 919 Tour advanced to the next round. The P760 had similar results, so it made it to the next round as well. Now that we were narrowed down to two heads, it was time to try some different shafts. Loren went to his irons shaft stash and brought back a Rifle 6.0, KBS $ Taper X, and an Oban CT 115 S and X. We tried every shaft in the 919 head first and it was pretty clear that the Oban shaft was going to be the one. I really loved the feel of the shaft and I could go after with without turning over left as much as with the other shafts. We tried the S flex as well, but while I seemed to get a bit more ballspeed with it, I lost some of the precision I had with the X flex. We then tried the P760 in the Oban shaft and the numbers just couldn’t match up with what I was putting out with the 919/Oban combination. Loren explained to me how Oban shafts were constructed, and their unique composition allowed for more precise weighting and frequencies (a club builders dream). They also allowed for more flex options. Oban offers an S, S+, X-, and X. Loren recommended that I go with the X- as it would give me the stability and precision I was seeing with the X, but a little more feel and ballspeed that I was seeing in the S. I was pretty damn excited. He took my final setup and went over to the loft/lie machine and bent the clubhead. I hit a few more shots and the consistency improved even more. He wen’t slightly flatter and stronger. Loren mentioned that because I have such a shallow delivery with the irons, he’d want to strengthen the lofts so that I would have 3 degree gaps in the long irons, 4 degree gaps in the mid irons, and 5 degree gaps in the scoring irons and wedges. After my fitting I was reading up on this and it turns out a lot of tour pros with shallower attack angles have their irons bent strong (Jason Day and Rory McIlroy to name a pair). Normally a customer would have hit driver next, but Loren wanted to see how the top of my bag progressed coming off the irons, so I hit my Srixon u65 Next. He commented that the 4 iron was an extremely situational club for me and he could see me benefiting from getting the 4ron in the 919 Tours, but then also sticking with the u65 4 iron and then swapping them out for one another depending on how my swing progressed (if I got a bit steeper) and how I wanted to utilize the 4 iron on a particular course (utility iron off the tee on shorter, tighter holes). The U65 was giving me good numbers across the board, so he felt comfortable sticking with that rather than going for a hybrid. The 212 carry also gave me a great yardage gap between my 5 iron and my hybrid. Speaking of the hybrid, when he pulled it out and handed to me, I said that this is truly the first hybrid I have had that I actually don’t dread hitting. I proceeded to absolutely pure six straight shots. Loren simply shook my head and said “there’s nothing we can do to give you a better club than that”. 147 MPH ball speed,14.6 launch, 3945 spin with 232 yards of carry. Baby draws. We switched out to the 3 wood next. I explained that I build the 3 wood and driver but putting everything I’ve learned about my swing and about fitting through Ian into these clubs and shafts. After 5 shots with my 3 wood, Loren said we would be wasting time and energy trying to find a better 3 wood for me. 153.2 MPH ball speed, 12.7 launch, 3489 spin, 249 yards of carry off the deck. Baby draws. With little time wasted, it was onto the big stick. As many of you have read in the forum review thread, I am in love with my Ping G410 Plus driver. I was curious to find out if what I thought I was seeing on the course was real. This was all about validation, and if it wasn’t validated. Well - after just 5 swings, we had validation. I was pumping out baby draw bombs with the G410 Plus. I went into the day thinking maybe I’d be better off with the LST head, or another driver altogether (Cobra F9 or TaylorMade M5 perhaps?) Well they didn’t even get a shot. Loren commented that he loved the Accra shaft I had in the G410 as I seemed to be timing it perfectly without much effort. When we looked at the data, all of the numbers were just about as optimal as you could get. 162.6 MPH ball speed, 14.3 launch, 1641 Spin, 298 yards of carry. Those are insane numbers for me. I knew I was seeing some bombs on the course, and these numbers validated why. We really liked this driver for me because while the spin was low, that was when I was hitting it slightly higher on the face so the spin would tend to drop naturally. If I tried to go to a lower spin driver, the spin would have been too low to provide a stable and consistent ball flight. This doesn’t mean I constantly carry it 298 (my normal carry is probably closer to 285 now), but my current driver gives me the perfect blend of forgiveness, spin, dispersion and ball speed, and the ability to really nuke one if I catch it right. Loren told me that I am in the less than 1% of people that he has fit that didn’t need even tweak the smallest setting on the driver or 3 wood. That was pretty cool to hear. He did mention that the swing weight on my driver was kind of heavy and I could shorten the driver to 44.75 to bring it down to 4.5, and that I wouldn’t really lose anything performance wise, but might gain a little more consistency. Once I got done admiring my driver numbers it was on to wedges. I mentioned that the wedge shafts I had were installed to match a previous set of irons I had, and I really felt that I was lacking in consistency with my wedges. We talked about different wedge shafts and adding more weight and he went and grabbed three wedge shafts: KBS 610 125, DG Tour Issue S400 and Modus 125 Wedge. With all of the wedge shafts I felt a much better weighting throughout the swing. The profile of the KBS didn’t really jive with me as it almost felt like I was swinging a sledgehammer - a little too heavy. The S400 felt better, but I just wasn’t timing it right and my ball speeds and carry distances were down. The Modus 125s were the perfect combination of weight and feel and really helped me deliver my club head more consistently. This was the one. Loren and I talked again about my shallow delivery, bounce, and lie angle and we settled on a 50 (bent to 49), 54, 60 (bent to 59) setup with slightly flatter than standard lie angles. The last thing we talked about was grips. At some point during my fitting I had mentioned that I have smaller hands, and while a standard grip feels great in my left hand, my bottom (right) hand always felt like I was having to really squeeze harder to get a good handle on the club. We walked over to one of the drawers and he pulled out the Tour Velvet Plus 4 grip and it just felt fantastic. I was able to put my right hand on the club much more naturally and with much less tension. Perfect. My head was spinning from all of the information shared with me throughout the day and I was probably grinning like an idiot the entire way home on the train. By the time I arrived home, I received my fitting summaries from Loren, as well as my fitting “prescription” and a full quote to have True Spec build everything for me. Loren was a class act from start to finish. He's one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet and his knowledge of the golf swing and attention to the detail during the fitting were more than I could have ever hoped for. It was truly a privilege to be fit by him. My wife and I went out to dinner that night and I walked her through my fitting and how it was the best golf experience of my life. She knew that if I ever god a proper fitting like this, my club-hoing days would be over. So that night we placed the order. Much to my surprised, I received an email from True Spec and FedEx on June 18th, less than 11 days after my fitting, that my clubs had been shipped. They arrived on Thursday, June 20th - less than two weeks after my fitting. Just unbelievable customer services right there. The presentation of the club in the True Spec box was top notch, just like the rest of the experience. I put my new clubs in my bag and just started at my entire setup. For the first time in my life, I had zero doubts about my equipment. No questions about fit. No worrying that I was leaving performance on the table. And I tell you what - it is a pretty incredible feeling. This fitting journey started with me learning more about my swing through my instructor, learning about equipment from MyGolfSpy, learning about the science of the swing and fitting through Ian Fraser at TXG, and culminated by getting fit by one of the top club fitters in the world in Loren David at True Spec NYC. I am truly grateful for everyone that played a part in getting my bag to where it is today. No more equipment excuses. It’s time to play some golf. cnosil, philoserf, M. Parsons and 26 others 20 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Great stuff!!! And, of course, a great and informative read. But... Has the Evnroll been replaced?!? JJM5561 1 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym AI Smoke Max (Grafalloy ProLaunch Blue 45/A) 3H...Cobra King Tec (MMT 70/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha '19 (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) SW, LW...Mizuno ES21 54-08, 60-06 (KBS Hi Rev 2.0) Putter...MLA Tour XDream or EvnRoll ER5 ...all in a Bag Boy hybrid bag on an MGI Zip Navigator. ..ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Or "found" Pro V1. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Other tests: MLA putter; Cleveland Hi Bore driver; Ben Hogan hybrids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 And there's so much I probably forgot to include in this write-up that I should have. Like my tweets to @Tony Covey MGS asking him about shaft profile comparisons or all of the comments and encouragement I received in my swing change thread that pushed me to keep working on my swing to get it where it is today. yungkory, JohnSmalls, GolfSpy_BNG and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, cksurfdude said: Great stuff!!! And, of course, a great and informative read. But... Has the Evnroll been replaced?!? Haha no no no - well, not permanently. I won the Spider X in an outing last week and really like how balanced it feels throughout the stroke. Going to give it some course time. Dave Stockton said he's a big believer in having a few different style putters to tinker with in case you need something fresh to look down at and help change your putting mindset if you're stuck in a rut. Not necessarily in a rut with the Evnroll, but wanted try something I haven't before and I am enjoying it thus far. tony@CIC, GolfSpy_BNG, cnosil and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Great writeup! Congratulations on the new clubs. They look awesome. null 1 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 3.6 / Anti-Cap: 9.9 (Last Updated Sept. 1, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Amazing write up! Thanks for sharing, it was a great read!Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy null 1 Quote What is in my Ghost MGS anyday Maverick or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: Callaway Smoke AI TD Max 8.5* with an Aretera Alpha One Blue 55/4 shaft @ 44.75” or GD VF 5s @45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" TSR2 7 wood shaft TBD Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: P790 Aged Copper 4-PW with Steelfiber I95 R Wedges: T22 copper 50* and 54* with Steelfiber 95 S Putter: 2024 Phantom 5.5 @ 34” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Sick stuff dude. I know exactly what you mean about that little bit of uncertainty in the back of your mind. Looking to squash it myself! Might have to visit NYC again! edingc, JohnSmalls and null 3 Quote Driver: GT3 Ventus TR Black 5 S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: DF3 x Accra Ball: Tour B X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Awesome stuff, Joe! null 1 Quote Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 7W: Epic Flash 19* TourAD (can't remember the exact model) 4H: Tour B JGR 23* Recoil 780ES 5-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 54*, 58*: TAIII Black Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Most Recent Test: Fit For Golf 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Theoo Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Sounds like a fun day. We have a true spec here in Columbus and I think that’s where I’ll go for my next fitting since my last at club champion was meh. Quote Driver: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5 FW: F6 baffler set at 16º Hybrid: NONEIrons: 3i 2014 TP CB 4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400 Wedges: 52º 56º 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped Putter: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Nice. Pretty cool experience!!! Sad to hear that your “club ho-ing days are over”, as that means no more MGS testing opportunities.... Ha! Really cool to know everything in the bag fits JUST right!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro JohnSmalls 1 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchunksalot Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Excellent write-up of your experience, Joe. Those Mizuno irons are gorgeous and I love the black wedges. Can't wait to see how they perform on the course. Sent from my SM-G955U using MyGolfSpy mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Fantastic write-up, pics, and info. What an amazing experience to have. null 1 Quote In my Big Max hybrid bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h D200 6i-GW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 Tour S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattF Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Great write up Joe! null 1 Quote In the bag: Driver: Darkspeed X 9° UST Mamiya LIN-Q M40X Blue 7F4 Fairway: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Fairway 14 stand bag Balls: Chrome Tour X Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeekingGolf Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Amazing stuff amazing numbers sounds like the experience of a lifetime...Sent from my SM-G960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app Quote "Obviously my iron play is incredible, and when I get going I can get hot, but this course just fits my eye. The shaping of the holes, and just a couple of the doglegs, I'm able to shape shots." – Bryson DeChambeau In my Hoofer Lite Z765 9.5 with Miyazaka Kaula Mizu 6 Stiff Shaft (TrueGolfFit Recommended!!!) F8 3-4 wood 16* Aldilla Blue 70 Stiff shaft Rescue mid 2 iron 16* One Length Forged Tec 4-GW with AMT Black shafts Futura Phantom 2 Tour B330 RX Like Bass Fishing? Check out my one and only article!!! https://www.bassresource.com/beginner/get-started-bass-fishing.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Thanks for the detailed write up. Sounds like it was a great experience. While you were working through the wedge fitting, did you gain any knowledge on the approach to finding the right wedge? Like start with same shaft as irons, go heavier in the shaft, swingweight, lie angle...flatter than irons seems to be a suggestion I hear, should you wore about grind, etc. Wedges are my new area to focus on so I want too try and learn as much as possible null 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDGolfHacker Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Awesome experience and a great write up! Congratulations! MDGolfHacker Quote What's In This Lefty's Bag? Driver: TSR2 11° Project X HZRDUS Black 4G 60g 5.5 Flex Fairway Woods: F8 3W Project X Even Flow Blue 75g shaft Fairway Woods: Hybrid: TSR2 18° Graphite Design Tour AD DI-85 Shaft Irons: 2021 T200's 4-GW AMT RED shafts Regular Flex Wedge: Tour Satin RTX 4 Wedges in 52° and 56° 2 Dot Putter: Gray Matter TDP 2.2 32.75" Bag: Three 5 Ball: PRO V1x / Z*Star RangeFinder: Titan Elite Social Media: Facebook: MD Golfhacker Twitter: @mdgolfhacker Instagram: mdgolfhacker Current MyGolfSpy Review - Precision Pro Titan Elite Rangefinder: https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/64979-testers-announced-precision-pro-titan-elite/?do=findComment&comment=1082733 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, cnosil said: Thanks for the detailed write up. Sounds like it was a great experience. While you were working through the wedge fitting, did you gain any knowledge on the approach to finding the right wedge? Like start with same shaft as irons, go heavier in the shaft, swingweight, lie angle...flatter than irons seems to be a suggestion I hear, should you wore about grind, etc. Wedges are my new area to focus on so I want too try and learn as much as possible Great question. First thing we talked about was what I use each wedge for. For me it was Gap wedge: Full Shots, Partial square face shots, low square face shots around green Sand Wedge: Full shots, Partial Square face shots, square face shots around the green Lob Wedge: Partial square face shots. square and open faced shots around the green, greenside rough, bunker shots Turns out he was really happy with the grinds and bounces I had in my bag (full grind, medium bounce on gape wedge. S grind, medium bounce on my SW. High bounce with heel and toe relief on my lob wedge). I made these selections using the vokey wedge selection tool. IMO it is the single best online fitting tool in golf. After that we went to lofts. He already had the idea of 5 degree gaps and liked that I was carrying a 54 degree wedge. We based the other two wedges off that. The next thing we focused on was shafts. For this it was all about weight and feel. He recommended going with the wedge shaft in my gap wedge rather than matching my irons shafts just based on how I use my wedges. While I do use my gap wedge for full swings, I use it a lot for partial swings too. He manipulated the 54 degree and figured out the proper lie angle (flat from standard and a bit flatter than my irons since there isn't as much shaft deflection with wedges and a flatter lie angle will help with that). In terms of swingweight relative to the rest of my irons, we went one SW point higher in my gap wedge, and two SW points higher in both my SW and LW. Let me know if there's anything else that I missed! cnosil, yungkory, sirchunksalot and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 32 minutes ago, GeekingGolf said: Amazing stuff amazing numbers sounds like the experience of a lifetime... Sent from my SM-G960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app It really was, but the best part about it is anybody could experience it. A full bag fitting only costs $350! Golfspy_CG2 and GeekingGolf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juspoole Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Great stuff - I certainly echo some of your sentiments as I had a Club Champion visit in December. The validation you have knowing you have the right clubs in your bag, just help to provide a little more confidence while your out on the course. I still think back to my fitting with my driver specifically if I'm having an off day and tell myself to just swing away because the numbers didn't lie. More often than not, it's helped me get back on track to some degree and right the ship. Hopefully you play well the rest of the season. null 1 Quote Driver: Mavrik Sub Zero 9* (Set to 10) Ventus Blue 6X 2 Hybrid: TSI3 Hybrid Tensei Blue 80 X (17.25*) 3 Hybrid 818 H2 Hybrid Hzrdus RDX Black 6.5 (20.5*) 4 Iron - T200 4 Iron Graphite Design Tour AD IZ X Hybrid Shaft Irons 5-PW: T100-S 5 - GW KBS Tour 130 X Gap/Sand Wedge: Vokey SM6 49* SM8 54* Lob Wedge: Jaws 5 Wedge 58* DG Tour Issue Stiff Putter: Phantom 5.5 34" Pro Platinum Newport 2 35" Taylormade Tour Black Spider 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckymeyer Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Awesome experience @jlukes and thanks for a great write up! You mentioned the "temporary" putter change, but did you go through any putter fitting stuff while you were there? Shankster 1 Quote Driver: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 3w: '16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82 5w: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow Hybrid: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black Irons: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Wedges: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Putter: Red 7s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, hckymeyer said: Awesome experience @jlukes and thanks for a great write up! You mentioned the "temporary" putter change, but did you go through any putter fitting stuff while you were there? Unfortunately the prize didn't include a putter fitting. Looking back, I wish I would have just paid to have the putter fitting tacked on. yungkory and MDGolfHacker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rchang Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Great write up. Nice that they aren’t trying to just sell you. I did a swing analysis at Golftec. It included a fitting. I just felt like he was always trying to upsell me. Did the driver, but not wanted the full bag because of that feeling. Interesting about the Ping 410 being a heavier head weight. Are you considering shortening the shaft? null 1 Quote WITB TS2 10.5 M2 3HL Mavrik Max 5W Titleist 818 4 hybrid Mizuno JPX921 HMP 5-Gap Mizuno S19 56 Maltby TSW 60 Bobby Grace Shiloh putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, Rchang said: Great write up. Nice that they aren’t trying to just sell you. I did a swing analysis at Golftec. It included a fitting. I just felt like he was always trying to upsell me. Did the driver, but not wanted the full bag because of that feeling. Interesting about the Ping 410 being a heavier head weight. Are you considering shortening the shaft? I did shorten to 44.75 from 45. 10g weight in the toe. Swing weight at 4.5 where I like to play my driver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I waited until I had the time to read this uninterrupted, so I grabbed a hot-dog and beverage and sat down to take it all in! What a great experience, and one of the best write-ups of a fitting I've read, great detailed info on each segment, wit out bombarding or overloading us with stats. Just perfect, gave the essentials! Congrats on the new purchase, so great that your wife was cool with your "free fitting" resulting in some new sticks! Small world about Loren and Maria. A good friend of mine just took the job as her full time caddie. He had been with Charl Swartzel...who is now out for the year with an injury. I'm excited to see how things go for them. He's worked for a previous No. 1 in the world on the LPGA and a number as well. So he's a good get for her as well. Middler, cnosil, MattF and 2 others 5 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnSmalls Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 @jlukes absolutely awesome write up, thanks for sharing such an in-depth look at your experience. How does your fitting with TrueSpec compare to the fittings you have had with Club Champion? If you did it all over again, would you choose one over the other? Quote Gameday Vessel Sunday 2.0/ Ogio Silencer Dynapwr Carbon | Hzrdus Smoke Black Mavrik 3w | Evenflow Riptide FG Tour F5 Hybrid(20,23) | MCA Fubuki Staff Model CB 5-PW | DG 120 Vokey SM7 (50, 54, 58) | DG 120 Studio Stock 15 -ProV1x (left dash) Romans 10:9 Classic Bag Jones Collegiate Clemson Stand Bag Eye 2 Laminate 1973 Staff Dynapower 4-PW Anser DUO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, JohnSmalls said: @jlukes absolutely awesome write up, thanks for sharing such an in-depth look at your experience. How does your fitting with TrueSpec compare to the fittings you have had with Club Champion? If you did it all over again, would you choose one over the other? I think club champion is fine for most people, but true spec is a couple steps above it and at pretty much the same cost. Furthermore, the club champion adaptor raises the swing weights much more than the ones True Spec uses. And finally knowing what I know now, I'd never pay to get fit on a trackman indoors. Every time trackman returns a spin number that is italicized, it's because it is guessing at the spin number. This happens on close to 50% of shots indoors. JohnSmalls, M. Parsons, MattF and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 @jlukes great write-up and congrats on the new irons and wedges. By the way, you must feel like one of the most blessed guys in the golfing world, I've never heard of someone winning so much great stuff...selected by MGS for Ping G410 Plus review, TM Spider putter, and True Spec fitting...that's awesome my man. null 1 Quote In my BR-D4 6-way King F9 set to 9*, Tour length Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0 S-flex, with GolfPride MCC +4 mid-size 3W - 13*, UST Mamiya 65 Gold S-flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G SIM UDI 2-iron - 18*, Mitsubishi Diamana Thump 100 X-flex, with GolfPride MCC Align ZX5 4-5 & ZX7 6-PW, Modus3 120 Tour S-flex, +1/2", with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G - SM8 Tour Chrome, 50.08F - 54.10S - 58.12D, DG Wedge Flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G Custom Fit 35" ER6 Red at 68 degree lie angle and 4 degrees of loft MTB-X NX7 Pro Slope Tracked by #WPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 10 minutes ago, M. Parsons said: @jlukes great write-up and congrats on the new irons and wedges. By the way, you must feel like one of the most blessed guys in the golfing world, I've never heard of someone winning so much great stuff...selected by MGS for Ping G410 Plus review, TM Spider putter, and True Spec fitting...that's awesome my man. Well to be fair the Spider X was won in a putting contest so I earned that - and I would like to think that I earned my spot in the Ping review due to my consistent contributions on other reviews, official or unofficial. Now the True Spec fitting was definitely luck M. Parsons, MattF, MDGolfHacker and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: I waited until I had the time to read this uninterrupted, so I grabbed a hot-dog and beverage and sat down to take it all in! What a great experience, and one of the best write-ups of a fitting I've read, great detailed info on each segment, wit out bombarding or overloading us with stats. Just perfect, gave the essentials! Congrats on the new purchase, so great that your wife was cool with your "free fitting" resulting in some new sticks! Small world about Loren and Maria. A good friend of mine just took the job as her full time caddie. He had been with Charl Swartzel...who is now out for the year with an injury. I'm excited to see how things go for them. He's worked for a previous No. 1 in the world on the LPGA and a number as well. So he's a good get for her as well. Thanks Rob! I tried to stay away from diving too much into the data as it really would have been pointless. Chose to focus on the process more so than the results! Golfspy_CG2 and JohnSmalls 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Parsons Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, jlukes said: Well to be fair the Spider X was won in a putting contest so I earned that - and I would like to think that I earned my spot in the Ping review due to my consistent contributions on other reviews, official or unofficial. Now the True Spec fitting was definitely luck Oh, I understand that you earned that putter and your spot in the G410 review...that's why I chose to use "blessed" instead of "lucky." JohnSmalls and null 2 Quote In my BR-D4 6-way King F9 set to 9*, Tour length Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0 S-flex, with GolfPride MCC +4 mid-size 3W - 13*, UST Mamiya 65 Gold S-flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G SIM UDI 2-iron - 18*, Mitsubishi Diamana Thump 100 X-flex, with GolfPride MCC Align ZX5 4-5 & ZX7 6-PW, Modus3 120 Tour S-flex, +1/2", with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G - SM8 Tour Chrome, 50.08F - 54.10S - 58.12D, DG Wedge Flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G Custom Fit 35" ER6 Red at 68 degree lie angle and 4 degrees of loft MTB-X NX7 Pro Slope Tracked by #WPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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