JakeSmith2316 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 A simple question for all my MGS friends. I am seeing more companies come out with Custom putter shafts from the likes of LA Golf, KBS, as well as others. The question is, for anyone that has tried multiple shafts in the same putter have you felt a difference in performance or feel? If so, a further question is has anyone tried a graphite putter shaft such as the new KBS GPS Shaft or looking at trying one in the near future? GolfSpy_APH, Placasse61, adiogolf and 6 others 4 5 Quote Breakdown of WITB powered by Bag: Player IV DXR Pro Driver: AEROJET LS 9° -Tour Driven 60g Stiff 3W: AEROJET Max 15.5° -Tour Driven 70g Stiff 3H: KING Tec (2023) 19° - Tour Hybrid Proto 85g Stiff Irons: KING Tour MiM (4-9) - C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: SM9 46°F & 50°F - C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: SM9 54°S & 58°M - C-Taper Regular+ Putter: 3D Supernova - CT Tour Putter 120g Ball: #23 ProV1x (2023) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 19 minutes ago, JakeSmith2316 said: A simple question for all my MGS friends. I am seeing more companies come out with Custom putter shafts from the likes of LA Golf, KBS, as well as others. The question is, for anyone that has tried multiple shafts in the same putter have you felt a difference in performance or feel? If so, a further question is has anyone tried a graphite putter shaft such as the new KBS GPS Shaft or looking at trying one in the near future? I can only speak to the strokelab shaft that yes without question it made a difference and I dont think I will ever go back to a normal putter shaft. The feel and just ease in which it has made putting is so much better than a standard steel shaft. Not sure I will go as far and see or try the other fancy ones, but if I was to go to a new putter it would have to have some sort of non standard shaft. crimea_river, JakeSmith2316, Christof and 7 others 7 1 2 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSmith2316 Posted April 16, 2023 Author Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said: I can only speak to the strokelab shaft that yes without question it made a difference and I dont think I will ever go back to a normal putter shaft. The feel and just ease in which it has made putting is so much better than a standard steel shaft. Not sure I will go as far and see or try the other fancy ones, but if I was to go to a new putter it would have to have some sort of non standard shaft. Thanks for your thoughts. My previous putter was actually the Stroke Lab Black 7s So it had the graphite top with the steel bottom. I did feel it had better balance than the others however, the toe hang that comes with the S model meant it didn’t last very long. So I made the switch to the Supernova I have now that has a KBS CT Tour. Placasse61, GolfSpy_APH, Merlin1313 and 2 others 5 Quote Breakdown of WITB powered by Bag: Player IV DXR Pro Driver: AEROJET LS 9° -Tour Driven 60g Stiff 3W: AEROJET Max 15.5° -Tour Driven 70g Stiff 3H: KING Tec (2023) 19° - Tour Hybrid Proto 85g Stiff Irons: KING Tour MiM (4-9) - C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: SM9 46°F & 50°F - C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: SM9 54°S & 58°M - C-Taper Regular+ Putter: 3D Supernova - CT Tour Putter 120g Ball: #23 ProV1x (2023) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cnosil Posted April 16, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2023 16 minutes ago, JakeSmith2316 said: A simple question for all my MGS friends. I am seeing more companies come out with Custom putter shafts from the likes of LA Golf, KBS, as well as others. The question is, for anyone that has tried multiple shafts in the same putter have you felt a difference in performance or feel? If so, a further question is has anyone tried a graphite putter shaft such as the new KBS GPS Shaft or looking at trying one in the near future? Simple question, but difficult answer. You will hear many say that the putter shaft doesn't matter because the putter moves so slowly. Even with steel, there are shaft profiles and the putter performs differently with the different shafts. In steel, there is the pencil shaft made famous by TP Mills and the YSC shaft that Cameron used for a long time. There is a different in feel with the graphite shafts; they typically feel stiffer. I've compared a steel vs BGT stability shaft in identical heads and there were slight performance differences. With putters, the differences will always be slight and probably something you can't measure in a single round and will probably take a full season to see any difference. For example you might see face angle deviation narrow a quarter of a degree; this might help you make a few more 10' putts over the course of a season. I saw a report from someone that did a Quintic comparison and the results showed a little tighter dispersion and narrowed face angle deviation that would probably translate to 1ish strokes saved per 4 rounds. The shaft costs seems to be coming down so I wouldn't be opposed to putting one in a putter. I have tried the All-In,, LA Golf, Stability, PXG, and Accra; they generally feel about the same. I have also tried stroke lab it is designed with a different purpose than the others. B_R_A_D_Y, JakeSmith2316, Merlin1313 and 12 others 15 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: XCG7 Beta 15* w/Fujikura Fuel Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said: I can only speak to the strokelab shaft that yes without question it made a difference and I dont think I will ever go back to a normal putter shaft. The feel and just ease in which it has made putting is so much better than a standard steel shaft. Not sure I will go as far and see or try the other fancy ones, but if I was to go to a new putter it would have to have some sort of non standard shaft. Great feedback - its interesting that other major OEMs haven't leaned into putter shafts like Odyssey / Callaway, and I like that they are including the strokelab shaft in most of their putters (vs. a LA golf shaft that runs multiple hundreds of dollars). GolfSpy_APH, Christof, Placasse61 and 2 others 3 2 Quote Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge/Testing Bag (Link Here) Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-GW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Jaws Raw Plasma 54 & 58 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Other Reviews: Callaway Paradym Titleist White Box Testing (2023) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSmith2316 Posted April 16, 2023 Author Share Posted April 16, 2023 Just now, CFreddie said: Great feedback - its interesting that other major OEMs haven't leaned into putter shafts like Odyssey / Callaway, and I like that they are including the strokelab shaft in most of their putters (vs. a LA golf shaft that runs multiple hundreds of dollars). It might just be my lack of knowledge in the shaft game, however in the putter area the only ones I currently knew of were the Stroke Lab for Odyssey. And in terms of specialty ones the LA Golf line and the KBS line. I might need to take a look into what the others like PXG and Accra offer. fozcycle, Placasse61, Christof and 1 other 3 1 Quote Breakdown of WITB powered by Bag: Player IV DXR Pro Driver: AEROJET LS 9° -Tour Driven 60g Stiff 3W: AEROJET Max 15.5° -Tour Driven 70g Stiff 3H: KING Tec (2023) 19° - Tour Hybrid Proto 85g Stiff Irons: KING Tour MiM (4-9) - C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: SM9 46°F & 50°F - C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: SM9 54°S & 58°M - C-Taper Regular+ Putter: 3D Supernova - CT Tour Putter 120g Ball: #23 ProV1x (2023) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, JakeSmith2316 said: It might just be my lack of knowledge in the shaft game, however in the putter area the only ones I currently knew of were the Stroke Lab for Odyssey. And in terms of specialty ones the LA Golf line and the KBS line. I might need to take a look into what the others like PXG and Accra offer. Yea, I could be wrong here too (not aware of any putter shaft made by a TM / Cobra / Ping). I believe Scottys are TT as well. Placasse61, Merlin1313 and Christof 3 Quote Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge/Testing Bag (Link Here) Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-GW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Jaws Raw Plasma 54 & 58 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Other Reviews: Callaway Paradym Titleist White Box Testing (2023) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSmith2316 Posted April 16, 2023 Author Share Posted April 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, CFreddie said: Yea, I could be wrong here too (not aware of any putter shaft made by a TM / Cobra / Ping). I believe Scottys are TT as well. Based on a quick look it does look like TT makes the shaft for Scotty’s due to the head having a flare in the head. I know Cobra uses the KBS Tour 120 exclusively at the moment as well. When it comes to trying shafts I do wonder if there is specific places that actually have the facilities to do such tests outside of Shaft and Club OEM fitting centers. Merlin1313, fozcycle and Christof 3 Quote Breakdown of WITB powered by Bag: Player IV DXR Pro Driver: AEROJET LS 9° -Tour Driven 60g Stiff 3W: AEROJET Max 15.5° -Tour Driven 70g Stiff 3H: KING Tec (2023) 19° - Tour Hybrid Proto 85g Stiff Irons: KING Tour MiM (4-9) - C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: SM9 46°F & 50°F - C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: SM9 54°S & 58°M - C-Taper Regular+ Putter: 3D Supernova - CT Tour Putter 120g Ball: #23 ProV1x (2023) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 26 minutes ago, CFreddie said: Great feedback - its interesting that other major OEMs haven't leaned into putter shafts like Odyssey / Callaway, and I like that they are including the strokelab shaft in most of their putters (vs. a LA golf shaft that runs multiple hundreds of dollars). They may have input into shafts, but just like the other clubs in the bag, they don't delve much into shafts at all. The Ping PLD line has a graphite shaft but to my knowledge it isn't a shaft that offers the "advantages" of a stability type shaft. The PXG option seems to be an inhouse design. 24 minutes ago, JakeSmith2316 said: It might just be my lack of knowledge in the shaft game, however in the putter area the only ones I currently knew of were the Stroke Lab for Odyssey. And in terms of specialty ones the LA Golf line and the KBS line. I might need to take a look into what the others like PXG and Accra offer. There are lots of graphite putter shafts. Others that haven't been mentioned so far in this thread: Graphite Design, Diamana, Fujikura, Mitsubishi Chemical, and Patterson 7 minutes ago, JakeSmith2316 said: When it comes to trying shafts I do wonder if there is specific places that actually have the facilities to do such tests outside of Shaft and Club OEM fitting centers. the PXG shafts can be tried through a PXG fitting or at their retail stores, the UST All-In are options in Cleveland putters so you should be able to try them at any store that sells Cleveland putters. If you were in California you could go to the KBS store and try their shafts. Places like TrueSpec and Club Champion also offer some of the graphite options as part of a paid fitting. Merlin1313, Christof, SteveGH7 and 3 others 5 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: XCG7 Beta 15* w/Fujikura Fuel Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, cnosil said: They may have input into shafts, but just like the other clubs in the bag, they don't delve much into shafts at all. The Ping PLD line has a graphite shaft but to my knowledge it isn't a shaft that offers the "advantages" of a stability type shaft. The PXG option seems to be an inhouse design. There are lots of graphite putter shafts. Others that haven't been mentioned so far in this thread: Graphite Design, Diamana, Fujikura, Mitsubishi Chemical, and Patterson the PXG shafts can be tried through a PXG fitting or at their retail stores, the UST All-In are options in Cleveland putters so you should be able to try them at any store that sells Cleveland putters. If you were in California you could go to the KBS store and try their shafts. Places like TrueSpec and Club Champion also offer some of the graphite options as part of a paid fitting. Thanks - I was speaking more to an OEM building a specific shaft for putters (Odyssey + Stroke Lab). cnosil, Merlin1313 and Christof 3 Quote Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge/Testing Bag (Link Here) Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-GW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Jaws Raw Plasma 54 & 58 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Other Reviews: Callaway Paradym Titleist White Box Testing (2023) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlow206 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 I believe they can matter, but it is individual dependent. A lot of people talk about feel related to putters (milled vs. insert, milling style, milling depth, etc.). Amongst the putter shafts, there can be feel differences. For me, a steel True Temper stepped putter shaft feels a lot softer than a Stability shaft. Whether you can even perceive the feel differences and whether those feel differences matter is unique to you. cnosil, Merlin1313, CFreddie and 3 others 6 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSmith2316 Posted April 16, 2023 Author Share Posted April 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, cnosil said: They may have input into shafts, but just like the other clubs in the bag, they don't delve much into shafts at all. The Ping PLD line has a graphite shaft but to my knowledge it isn't a shaft that offers the "advantages" of a stability type shaft. The PXG option seems to be an inhouse design. There are lots of graphite putter shafts. Others that haven't been mentioned so far in this thread: Graphite Design, Diamana, Fujikura, Mitsubishi Chemical, and Patterson the PXG shafts can be tried through a PXG fitting or at their retail stores, the UST All-In are options in Cleveland putters so you should be able to try them at any store that sells Cleveland putters. If you were in California you could go to the KBS store and try their shafts. Places like TrueSpec and Club Champion also offer some of the graphite options as part of a paid fitting. I do have a feeling a KBS fitting day in Carlsbad might me in my future soon. I have a fairly basic fitting with my current clubs but I would love to splurge and get 100% dialed in on everything when I get closer to my handicap goals. cnosil, Christof, Merlin1313 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Breakdown of WITB powered by Bag: Player IV DXR Pro Driver: AEROJET LS 9° -Tour Driven 60g Stiff 3W: AEROJET Max 15.5° -Tour Driven 70g Stiff 3H: KING Tec (2023) 19° - Tour Hybrid Proto 85g Stiff Irons: KING Tour MiM (4-9) - C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: SM9 46°F & 50°F - C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: SM9 54°S & 58°M - C-Taper Regular+ Putter: 3D Supernova - CT Tour Putter 120g Ball: #23 ProV1x (2023) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, JakeSmith2316 said: I do have a feeling a KBS fitting day in Carlsbad might me in my future soon. I have a fairly basic fitting with my current clubs but I would love to splurge and get 100% dialed in on everything when I get closer to my handicap goals. No3PuttLaLa, Joselo, Placasse61 and 4 others 2 5 Quote Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge/Testing Bag (Link Here) Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-GW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Jaws Raw Plasma 54 & 58 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Other Reviews: Callaway Paradym Titleist White Box Testing (2023) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSmith2316 Posted April 16, 2023 Author Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, CFreddie said: I was expecting a more emperor Palpatine style GIF, but that’ll do, that’ll do. Placasse61, CFreddie, Merlin1313 and 4 others 7 Quote Breakdown of WITB powered by Bag: Player IV DXR Pro Driver: AEROJET LS 9° -Tour Driven 60g Stiff 3W: AEROJET Max 15.5° -Tour Driven 70g Stiff 3H: KING Tec (2023) 19° - Tour Hybrid Proto 85g Stiff Irons: KING Tour MiM (4-9) - C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: SM9 46°F & 50°F - C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: SM9 54°S & 58°M - C-Taper Regular+ Putter: 3D Supernova - CT Tour Putter 120g Ball: #23 ProV1x (2023) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFreddie Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Fine fine. Merlin1313, Placasse61, Joselo and 4 others 1 6 Quote Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge/Testing Bag (Link Here) Driver: Paradym with Ventus TR Blue 60 Stiff Fairways: Aerojet Max 3W & 7W with Hzrdus Smoke Blue RDX 70 Stiff Hybrid: King TEC 5H with KBS PGI 95 Stiff Irons: Forged TEC 5-GW with KBS Tour Lite Stiff Wedges: Jaws Raw Plasma 54 & 58 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: 2023 Maxfli Tour Other Reviews: Callaway Paradym Titleist White Box Testing (2023) Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, CFreddie said: Thanks - I was speaking more to an OEM building a specific shaft for putters (Odyssey + Stroke Lab). We are assuming Odyssey builds the shafts...can't show a definitive yes or no on that. The only other would be LA Golf; their putters have the LA Golf shaft as you would expect JohnSmalls, Merlin1313, CFreddie and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: XCG7 Beta 15* w/Fujikura Fuel Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWillGolf Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, JakeSmith2316 said: I do have a feeling a KBS fitting day in Carlsbad might me in my future soon. I have a fairly basic fitting with my current clubs but I would love to splurge and get 100% dialed in on everything when I get closer to my handicap goals. Subdiver1, CFreddie, Placasse61 and 2 others 1 2 2 Quote CB-P226 Hoofer Cart Bag 0311 Black Ops 8° w/Mitsubishi Diamana S+ 60 0311 XF 3 wood 16° w/Mitsubishi Tensei AV Raw Blue 0211 19° Hybrid w/Project X Even Flow Riptide G410 Crossover 4 w/Mitsubishi Tensei Blue Paradym X 6 - GW w/True Temper Elevate MPH Official Forum Test SM9 54°/12° D and 58°/12° D w/KBS Tour 110 ER11v 34” Evnroll ER11v Official Forum Test Shot Scope Pro LX+ Pro LX+ Official Forum Test MTB prime 3.5+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeSmith2316 Posted April 16, 2023 Author Share Posted April 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, CFreddie said: Fine fine. 3 minutes ago, MattWillGolf said: Now, do I do the whole $350 full bag or split days to focus on one item? Haha. Back to the original discussion however, I appreciate all the new info I have gathered today and will definitely look into specialty golf shafts if never mind, when a new putter makes its way to by bag. Merlin1313, Christof, cnosil and 1 other 3 1 Quote Breakdown of WITB powered by Bag: Player IV DXR Pro Driver: AEROJET LS 9° -Tour Driven 60g Stiff 3W: AEROJET Max 15.5° -Tour Driven 70g Stiff 3H: KING Tec (2023) 19° - Tour Hybrid Proto 85g Stiff Irons: KING Tour MiM (4-9) - C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: SM9 46°F & 50°F - C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: SM9 54°S & 58°M - C-Taper Regular+ Putter: 3D Supernova - CT Tour Putter 120g Ball: #23 ProV1x (2023) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylorJudd Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 hour ago, GolfSpy_APH said: I can only speak to the strokelab shaft that yes without question it made a difference and I dont think I will ever go back to a normal putter shaft. The feel and just ease in which it has made putting is so much better than a standard steel shaft. Not sure I will go as far and see or try the other fancy ones, but if I was to go to a new putter it would have to have some sort of non standard shaft. This... The stroke Lab is so smooth. It's a completely different feel. It was a huge game changer for my putting personally CudaKota66, CFreddie and Christof 3 Quote I like golf. You should like golf. If life is tough, play more golf! Callaway Paradym Triple Diamond 10.5, Graphite Design Tour AD-MJ 6x Titleist TSr3 18 Degree, Graphite Design Tour Ad-DI 7x Takomo 301CB's, KBS Tours 120S Vokey SM8 48 10F, 52 08F, 56 08M, 60 08M Odyssey O-Works Jailbird Mini, Versa Scheme, 17" Fatso 3.0 Grip, 40" Jazz Tacoma Cart Bag Titleist Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple_Putt Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 I’m not sure but I’d like to try it! CFreddie and Christof 2 Quote Super Burner 2.0 10.5* Fly-Z hybrid SMS 4-GW i3 5 Wood SM7 56*,60*, SM8 52* Versa 1 putter 2023 Tested: Edel SMS Irons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWillGolf Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 hours ago, JakeSmith2316 said: A simple question for all my MGS friends. I am seeing more companies come out with Custom putter shafts from the likes of LA Golf, KBS, as well as others. The question is, for anyone that has tried multiple shafts in the same putter have you felt a difference in performance or feel? If so, a further question is has anyone tried a graphite putter shaft such as the new KBS GPS Shaft or looking at trying one in the near future? I asked this of Ryan Barath, a club builder, formerly with TXG and now a writer for golf.com. He said that these specialty shafts resist twisting/flexing better than steel and because of that they would be more helpful with putts at longer distances. CFreddie and GolfSpy_SHARK 2 Quote CB-P226 Hoofer Cart Bag 0311 Black Ops 8° w/Mitsubishi Diamana S+ 60 0311 XF 3 wood 16° w/Mitsubishi Tensei AV Raw Blue 0211 19° Hybrid w/Project X Even Flow Riptide G410 Crossover 4 w/Mitsubishi Tensei Blue Paradym X 6 - GW w/True Temper Elevate MPH Official Forum Test SM9 54°/12° D and 58°/12° D w/KBS Tour 110 ER11v 34” Evnroll ER11v Official Forum Test Shot Scope Pro LX+ Pro LX+ Official Forum Test MTB prime 3.5+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, MattWillGolf said: I asked this of Ryan Barath, a club builder, formerly with TXG and now a writer for golf.com. He said that these specialty shafts resist twisting/flexing better than steel and because of that they would be more helpful with putts at longer distances. Ryan has been around for about 20 years. He’s not just a club builder he’s a club fitter who has worked with pro golfers, he was part of WRX before TXG and Modern Golf. A pretty good resource for information GolfSpy_SHARK, CFreddie and MattWillGolf 2 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gophergutz Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 5 hours ago, CFreddie said: Yea, I could be wrong here too (not aware of any putter shaft made by a TM / Cobra / Ping). I believe Scottys are TT as well. Ping has a lot of models now with graphite shafts, including a number of their PLD models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gophergutz Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 5 hours ago, JakeSmith2316 said: Now, do I do the whole $350 full bag or split days to focus on one item? Haha. Back to the original discussion however, I appreciate all the new info I have gathered today and will definitely look into specialty golf shafts if never mind, when a new putter makes its way to by bag. IMO, unless one is a low single-digit capper or better, one has a lot more to worry about than one's putter shaft. Have time and $$$ to burn ? Knock yourself out. 1 hour ago, MattWillGolf said: I asked this of Ryan Barath, a club builder, formerly with TXG and now a writer for golf.com. He said that these specialty shafts resist twisting/flexing better than steel and because of that they would be more helpful with putts at longer distances. See above. There's a lot more a high capper can do to improve his game than worry about putter shafts being less resistant to twisting by an nth of a degree. You're hitting a ball that's not round on a surface that's not flat, assuming you've read the line and distance correctly, and then assuming you can bring the putter back to near square, with the proper amount of force. And from 30+ feet a fancy shaft isn't going to control your distance enough better to make a difference. crimea_river, DRLEONARD58, JakeSmith2316 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 8 hours ago, TylorJudd said: This... The stroke Lab is so smooth. It's a completely different feel. It was a huge game changer for my putting personally The next project I have is I do want to put the strokelab shaft on a different putter head. We will see if I manage to get it sorted in time, however I really do not want to go away from the putter shaft anytime soon. GolfSpy_SHARK, Woody83 and TylorJudd 3 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mharr Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 14 hours ago, JakeSmith2316 said: It might just be my lack of knowledge in the shaft game, however in the putter area the only ones I currently knew of were the Stroke Lab for Odyssey. And in terms of specialty ones the LA Golf line and the KBS line. I might need to take a look into what the others like PXG and Accra offer. The Stability shaft from BreakThroughGolf was the first graphite/steel hybrid shaft, before Stroke Lab "borrowed" (licensed, I hope) the design. BreakThroughGolf is the company that Barney Adams founded after he has sold his Adams Golf company. I've used that shaft on 3 putters now. Especially with the Cleveland Ti35, the stock shaft was so flexible, I would actually see the shaft flex on long putts! Put it a Stability shaft and it felt lighter, I could feel the head better, and my putts (both shorter and longer) were better. GolfSpy_SHARK and IndyBonzo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_R_A_D_Y Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Didn’t MyGolfSpy do a test last year on Odessy putters between graphite & steel shafts, determining that steel was more accurate from 10’ in? It would be interesting to see putter shaft tests. IndyBonzo, JakeSmith2316 and Woody83 3 Quote TSi3 #1-3-5 all with Tensi Blue S-flex 2019 Apex Pro black 3 & 4H Catalyst 70 or TSi3 #2-3 depending on how I’m playing. Tensi Blue 2019 Calloway Apex Pro black, 5-PW, Catalyst 100 - 6.0, Super Stroker Jumbo 2020 RadSpeed OL 4H, 5-GW … won’t get to actually use till warmer weather 2019 PM-grind, 56° & 60°, KBS steel, Green Cap Blue Spider EX Pro V1X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cradams10 Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 I use the KBS CT Tour Straight Shaft. I was skeptical on its benefits, but for the price I figured I would try it out. I use a Strokes Gained blade style and the feel of the putter changed dramatically for the better once installed. Who's to say there isn't a better one for me out there, but I know that my putting has benefited from an aftermarket shaft. IndyBonzo and JakeSmith2316 2 Quote Driver- TM Sim 2- Speeder 757 X 3W- Ping G430 LST- Fujikura Ventus TR Black 8 X Hybrid- TM M1- Tensei Orange X Irons- Srixon ZX7 MK II (4-PW)- TT DG X100 Wedges- Cleveland RTX-4 (58, 54, 50)- KBS Wedge Putter- TM Spider GT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimea_river Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 I doesn’t matter at all. But since some people think it does, then why not grab their money anyway? gophergutz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, mharr said: The Stability shaft from BreakThroughGolf was the first graphite/steel hybrid shaft, before Stroke Lab "borrowed" (licensed, I hope) the design. Stability and stroke lab are two completely different shafts and concepts . The Stability shaft is about making a shaft more “stable” to reduce twisting that has occurred as putter heads have gotten heavier. The stroke lab shaft is more about weight distribution. They moved weight to the putter head and added more counterbalance which cam from shaft weight reduction. ChitownM2, B_R_A_D_Y, Woody83 and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: XCG7 Beta 15* w/Fujikura Fuel Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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