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Byungwook

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Hi,

 

Has anyone purchased a Ping G430 driver from tgw.com with $213 upcharge for Ventus TR shaft? Their upcharge is less than the other stores and I’m wondering if TGW is using the VeloCore version or non-VeloCore version.

 

I ordered it Friday night and found that there was no mention of VeloCore in the confirmation email and I called them on Sat. The rep did not even know what VeloCore is and she said it ‘should be’ a VeloCore version in a very non-convincing way.

 

i wanted the answer in writing and sent them a mail, but just got an auto-reply that told me to contact them by calling them. I text messages them and a rep said they will get back to me in 2 business days, but it would be too late to cancel the custom order if I get the answer on Tue.

 

Please let me know.

Thanks,

BK

 

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50 minutes ago, Byungwook said:

Hi,

 

Has anyone purchased a Ping G430 driver from tgw.com with $213 upcharge for Ventus TR shaft? Their upcharge is less than the other stores and I’m wondering if TGW is using the VeloCore version or non-VeloCore version.

 

I ordered it Friday night and found that there was no mention of VeloCore in the confirmation email and I called them on Sat. The rep did not even know what VeloCore is and she said it ‘should be’ a VeloCore version in a very non-convincing way.

 

i wanted the answer in writing and sent them a mail, but just got an auto-reply that told me to contact them by calling them. I text messages them and a rep said they will get back to me in 2 business days, but it would be too late to cancel the custom order if I get the answer on Tue.

 

Please let me know.

Thanks,

BK

 

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To my knowledge TaylorMade is the only company that offers the non velocore ventus.

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8 minutes ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

To my knowledge TaylorMade is the only company that offers the non velocore ventus.

Actually, Tour Edge offers both the Ventus Blue and Red shafts in the non-VeloCore versions, and Callaway was offering them a couple of years ago, although I don’t think that they continue to offer those shafts.

Tour Edge continues to offer both of the non-VeloCore versions of the Ventus shafts as a standard shaft in their Exotics C-Series drivers and fairway woods.

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4W - Callaway Paradym 3HL, Newton Motion Fairway shaft, 4-Dot

HYB - Paradym X 18*, HZRDUS Smoke Red 80S; Sub 70 949X 21*, same shaft

7W (if played) - Sub 70 849, ProForce Black 80-S

Irons - Callaway Paradym, HZRDUS Silver Gen 4, S-flex

Wedges - Edison 2.0, 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100

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10 minutes ago, Josh Parker said:

At $213 upcharge my guess would be it’s the Velocore.

I believe you are correct. $213 is more than the non-VeloCore Ventus shaft sells for (my Fujikura dealer price for that shaft is almost $100 less than that, and their suggested retail price for that shaft is $200.

The upcharge from TaylorMade for the Ventus and Ventus TR VeloCore shafts is $300, so $213 is fairly reasonable by comparison. If Ping is charging that high of an upcharge for the non-VeloCore Ventus shaft, it would be a case of “gouging”, as I suspect that Ping gets those shafts for about half of what I have to pay for them (maybe less).

DR - Callaway Paradym AI Smoke TD, Newton Motion 4-Dot

4W - Callaway Paradym 3HL, Newton Motion Fairway shaft, 4-Dot

HYB - Paradym X 18*, HZRDUS Smoke Red 80S; Sub 70 949X 21*, same shaft

7W (if played) - Sub 70 849, ProForce Black 80-S

Irons - Callaway Paradym, HZRDUS Silver Gen 4, S-flex

Wedges - Edison 2.0, 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100

Putter - (currently in flux, but usually an Evnroll 8V

Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023)

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1 minute ago, funkyjudge said:

I believe you are correct. $213 is more than the non-VeloCore Ventus shaft sells for (my Fujikura dealer price for that shaft is almost $100 less than that, and their suggested retail price for that shaft is $200.

The upcharge from TaylorMade for the Ventus and Ventus TR VeloCore shafts is $300, so $213 is fairly reasonable by comparison. If Ping is charging that high of an upcharge for the non-VeloCore Ventus shaft, it would be a case of “gouging”, as I suspect that Ping gets those shafts for about half of what I have to pay for them (maybe less).

Yeah I have seen other manufacturers offer the velocore shaft typically $200-250 more 

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5 minutes ago, Josh Parker said:

Yeah I have seen other manufacturers offer the velocore shaft typically $200-250 more 

I think some of the variation in the upcharge amount is based on what the manufacturer is offering as their stock shaft. If it is a “real deal” Tensei AV or Diamana S+/D+ shaft model that is the stock offering, the upcharge should certainly be less than if the OEM is offering a cheap generic shaft model as the stock offering.

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DR - Callaway Paradym AI Smoke TD, Newton Motion 4-Dot

4W - Callaway Paradym 3HL, Newton Motion Fairway shaft, 4-Dot

HYB - Paradym X 18*, HZRDUS Smoke Red 80S; Sub 70 949X 21*, same shaft

7W (if played) - Sub 70 849, ProForce Black 80-S

Irons - Callaway Paradym, HZRDUS Silver Gen 4, S-flex

Wedges - Edison 2.0, 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100

Putter - (currently in flux, but usually an Evnroll 8V

Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023)

Bags - Ghost Golf Maverick Black Ops

Cart - MotoCaddy M7 Remote (without the remote)

Spoiler

driver / off the tee is no longer a weakness for me!

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Thanks a lot for the quick replies, GolfSpy_APH, funkyjudge, and Josh Parker.

I feel a little bit more relieved, even though there is no definitive answer yet. I was worried if I overpaid for a non-VeloCore shaft.

I will definitely post an update if I get an official response from tgw.com or receive the driver, whichever is sooner.

If there is anyone who actually bought a Ping wood from tgw.com with the Ventus shaft, please confirm which version of the shaft you got.

 

Thanks,

BK

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5 minutes ago, Byungwook said:

Just got a response from TGW.

They said that Ping confirmed that it is a VeloCore version.

I will post, if it is not the case when I receive the driver.

Thanks a lot for your help again!

I figured for that upcharge it was going to be. Glad that's the case. 

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5 hours ago, Byungwook said:

Received the driver today and it is indeed a VeloCore version.

Also ordered G430 3-wood and 3-hybrid from TGW after confirming that they are also VeloCore versions. 

Their upcharge is quite reasonable. ($213 for driver/wood and $123 for hybrid)

Nice!  What color?

:callaway-small: Paradym TD Driver w/ Ventus Blue 6S

:ping-small: 3W

:srixon-small: MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V

:srixon-small: MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V

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:L.A.B.: DF2.1 Putter

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