Javs Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 The old debate resurfaces. Who is the games greatest Tiger or Jack? I don’t think we can compare players from different eras. However, if I had to pick then for me it’s Jack. https://www.golfmonthly.com/features/tiger-woods-or-jack-nicklaus-who-is-the-greatest-golfer-what-the-stats-say?utm_term=CFEB69DA-8695-406A-822D-71925C4B6E39&lrh=afabd56f8788996dec1eed39e53e29756a4fe34c1aff9fa4fdfa9f254cbb042a&utm_campaign=075440B8-601C-4440-A9B1-8A7444061AA8&utm_medium=email&utm_content=F47BD5D1-4801-4564-883A-6869A6ED2371&utm_source=SmartBrief GaDawg and GolfSpy_SHARK 2 Quote Play like a champion today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_APH Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Das this and given my age and overall knowledge I just can't comment fairly. I have no recognition of watching Jack play and grew up playing tiger woods games so I have a bias that is pretty glaring. Javs, GolfSpy_SHARK, GaDawg and 1 other 3 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Tough one as they both have played a major role in golf history and its hard to compare the two because of different times. I have my feelings on Tiger but he no doubt is one of the best during his prime. Javs, silver & black and GolfSpy_SHARK 3 Quote Paradym TD Driver w/ Ventus Blue 6S 3W MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_SHARK Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Tough like Jamie said because I never witnessed Jack. but what I can say is I wish Tiger would stop getting into tournaments and withdrawing. I think it really hurts the legacy. I know this past one at riviera was “flu” but let’s be serious it was his back. Gotta know when to hang it up (easier said than done I know) Javs and Preeway 2 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdiver1 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 If Jack would stop the B.S. about the ball being too long I'd probably stick with Jack, for multiage reasons; but because he keeps that line going it has to be Tiger. GolfSpy_SHARK and jaskanski 2 Quote Driver - Ping G400 9°, Project-X Evenflow Black 6.0S 65 gr. FW - TM M3 3-wood 15°, Project-X HZRDUS Red 6.0 75 gr. mid-spin Hybrid - TM M4 19°, Project-X Evenflow Black 6.0S 85 gr. HY Irons - TM P790, 3-PW, Oban CT-115, PXG 311 P Gen 6 Wedges - Mizuno T20 Ion blue 52/9 & 56/14, N.S. Pro Modus3 S-flex Putter - Evnroll ER2 Garsen Max grip Getting a grip - oversize Winn DryTacs and Bionic gloves Ball - ProV1, AVX, Maxfli Tour, PXG Bag(s)/cart - Vessel Player III Rovic RV1S and Alphard V2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackS Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 I would say Jack had the better career overall with the longevity. But I think Tiger has was the most dominant there has been in his prime and is the most skilled golfer there has been. So I guess if you are going to say one was the greatest ever it comes down to which one of those things you think means more. silver & black, Preeway, GolfSpy_SHARK and 1 other 4 Quote WITB: Driver: Titleist TSR3 with TPT Nitro 15Hi 5 wood: Calloway Paradym Triple Diamond with TPT Power 15Lo Driving Iron: Tour Edge Exotics EXS Ti-Utility Hybrid: PXG 0317X Gen2 hybrid with TPT Power 15Lo Irons: Takomo 101T with Nippon Modus 120 shafts Wedges: Celveland RTX4 50 Degree, Calloway Jaws Raw 58 degree Z grind and 54 degree S grind Putter: Edel EAS 4.0 Ball: Srixon Z Star Diamond / Z Star XV Official 2024 TPT Shaft Test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek74 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 No question - Jack. What he did with the technology he had (or really didn't have) against the level of competition he had during his career, there's no doubt Jack is the No offense to those who played during Tiger's Era, but the competition wasn't as good as during Jack's time. It just wasn't.Tiger was an incredible golfer, I won't argue that point. But Jack was just better.Sent from my SM-N986U1 using Tapatalk Javs, GaDawg and GolfSpy_SHARK 3 Quote In My Sun Mountain C-130 'merica Cart Bag: Driver: BRNR Mini Driver, 11.5*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Blue RDX, 60g Fairway: 949x 3w, 15*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Red RDX, 70g Fairway: 949x 5w, 18*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Red RDX, 70g Hybrid: 939x 4H (21*), Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Black, 90g Irons: 101's, 5-PW, DG120 S300 Wedges: 286 @ 50*, JBFG @ 54* & 60*, DG120 S300 Putter: 002 Mid-Mallet @ 35", Super Stroke Pistol GT 2.0, Desert Camo Ball: Tour & Testing Vero X1 Technology: H4 w/ Tags, Pro L2 Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 2 hours ago, Subdiver1 said: If Jack would stop the B.S. about the ball being too long I'd probably stick with Jack, for multiage reasons; but because he keeps that line going it has to be Tiger. Tiger wanted a different ball for pros while he was playing and he like Jack as a course designer wants distance to be reigned in. Javs 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Tiger did what he did against much deeper fields than Jack. Tiger had courses adding length to try and tame him. Everyone will jump in the major numbers but Tiger has won the most tournaments ever which winning a tour event isn’t easy. His winning percentage is amazing. He dominated as the number one golfer for a long time. Tiger changed the game. Golfers on tour and those aspiring to be on tour started hitting the gym. There are better athletes playing golf on tour now thanks to Tiger. Golfers of all ages and backgrounds were and still play golf wearing black pants/shorts and a red polo. Tiger brought back the mock turtleneck a handful of years ago. Tiger is the GOAT GolfSpy_SHARK, silver & black and Javs 2 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 6 hours ago, Javs said: The old debate resurfaces. Who is the games greatest Tiger or Jack? I don’t think we can compare players from different eras. However, if I had to pick then for me it’s Jack. https://www.golfmonthly.com/features/tiger-woods-or-jack-nicklaus-who-is-the-greatest-golfer-what-the-stats-say?utm_term=CFEB69DA-8695-406A-822D-71925C4B6E39&lrh=afabd56f8788996dec1eed39e53e29756a4fe34c1aff9fa4fdfa9f254cbb042a&utm_campaign=075440B8-601C-4440-A9B1-8A7444061AA8&utm_medium=email&utm_content=F47BD5D1-4801-4564-883A-6869A6ED2371&utm_source=SmartBrief Jack without a doubt. Jack is the GOAT. GolfSpy_SHARK, GaDawg and Javs 3 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossfan Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 They were the best of their eras. That’s all I know. fixyurdivot, silver & black and GolfSpy_SHARK 3 Quote D- Tour Edge EXS 220 4W- Sub 70 949X Hybrid- Sub 70 949X Utility- Sub 70 699 U 21 degree Irons- Sub 70 749 5-PW Wedges- Sub 70 286 50+54, Tour Edge 1 out 58 degree Putter- Cleveland Huntington Beach soft # 11 Ball- Titleist Tour Soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javs Posted February 18 Author Share Posted February 18 (edited) To me it is unfair to compare the two because the eras were so different. I grew up watching Jack. I actually met him a few times. He could do things with the ball and hit farther than the others at his period. He hit towering high fades. The way he worked the old ball with persimmon woods and unforgiving blades was awesome! Jack with Arnie made the tour and changed golf. Jack played against some of the greatest in the game. While the fields might not have been as deep, the top players were much greater. Jacks winning over a longer period was better. He was truly the best of his period. Jack also was always a good sportsman and good to the fans. Tiger was the best of his era. He won against deeper fields and more than anyone. However, he did play against less top players than Jack. He was amazing in his prime. He changed the game as we know it today. Tiger like Jack moved the needle whenever he showed up. Tiger and Jack were both intimidating to their peers. Unfortunately, I have witnessed some of Tigers poor interactions with fans and had a bad personal interaction at work which has jaded my opinion of him. So, while an awesome talent and player outside of that I am not a fan. Edited February 18 by Javs GolfSpy_SHARK, Subdiver1 and jolter1 2 1 Quote Play like a champion today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolter1 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 If you go by winning percentage I believe Tiger would hold that distiction. But as Tiger said himself, the goal was to beat 18 majors, and with that it would be Jack along with his 19 runnerups. Javs, GaDawg and GolfSpy_SHARK 3 Quote Driver: Ping G430 SFT 10.5 Fairway Woods: Ping SFT G425 3-5 Hybrid Ping G410 4H Irons; Ping G425 5-LW Putter: Ping Anser 2 Ball: Titleist Tour Speed/AVX Bag: Titleist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Javs said: Jack played against some of the greatest in the game. While the fields might not have been as deep, the top players were much greater. Jacks winning over a longer period was better. 1 hour ago, Javs said: Tiger was the best of his era. He won against deeper fields and more than anyone. However, he did play against less top players than Jack. He was amazing in his prime. He changed the game as we know it today. Tiger had to deal with Phil and Vijay. Vijay won over 60 times on tour during the Tiger era. Not to mention guys like DL3, Freddie, Furyk. And Tiger doing it in less time is more impressive. You might want to go back and look at who Tiger competed against. If a great pitcher won 300 times in 20 years and another won that many in 15 years who is more impressive? The guy that did it quicker. 1 hour ago, Javs said: I have witnessed some of Tigers poor interactions with fans and had a bad personal interaction at work which has jaded my opinion of him. So, while an awesome talent and player outside of that I am not a fan. This is really what it’s about, a bias that jades the perspective Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javs Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 (edited) 2 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Tiger had to deal with Phil and Vijay. Vijay won over 60 times on tour during the Tiger era. Not to mention guys like DL3, Freddie, Furyk. And Tiger doing it in less time is more impressive. You might want to go back and look at who Tiger competed against. If a great pitcher won 300 times in 20 years and another won that many in 15 years who is more impressive? The guy that did it quicker. This is really what it’s about, a bias that jades the perspective You are entitled to your opinion, but I don’t agree. Sorry the golfers you mentioned are not Hogan, Palmer, Player, Trevino, Watson, Miller, Weiskopf, or Casper. I did state that Tigers fields were deeper, but the top players were not legends other than a few. My bias is against him as a person due to personal experience not against his accomplishments. I clearly stated that fact. I’m not going to go back and forth. Just stated my opinion as you did yours. I just don’t agree. Edited February 19 by Javs Quote Play like a champion today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shapotomous Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I am old enough to have seen Jack's play from the early 70's on. Overall I lean toward Jack not only because of his record in majors (wins and 2nd place finishes) but his Ryder Cup record is much better as well. Tiger had the most dominant 5 year stretch of anyone ever. But I give the longevity edge to Jack. It's tough to compare over the different eras but an interesting mental exercise to go through. fixyurdivot, GolfSpy_SHARK and Javs 3 Quote Modern Bag: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Snake Eyes 18* 2h, 23* 4h & 27* 5h; JPX 900 Forged 6 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S; Heppler Fetch; Ball - MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javs Posted February 19 Author Share Posted February 19 1 minute ago, Shapotomous said: I am old enough to have seen Jack's play from the early 70's on. Overall I lean toward Jack not only because of his record in majors (wins and 2nd place finishes) but his Ryder Cup record is much better as well. Tiger had the most dominant 5 year stretch of anyone ever. But I give the longevity edge to Jack. It's tough to compare over the different eras but an interesting mental exercise to go through. Agree with you! GolfSpy_SHARK 1 Quote Play like a champion today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golf2Much Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 It's amazing how whenever there's talk about Jack versus Tiger, many opinions tend to fall along generational lines. People like to choose the ones they saw in their prime. In reality, that's understandable because it's your personal reference point. In reading some comments here and in other articles, some the accolades favoring Tiger describe on how far he hit the ball, how competitive he was and how he revolutionized the game. Going back 30-40 year ago you heard the same type of comments when they talked about Jack overtaking Arnie. In reality, I'm not really sure if there's a right answer. Until everyone can agree on the metrics that truly describes the true GOAT, there will always be debate. And it's not just golf. Forums from all sports are filled with the same generation GOAT comparisons and each one tends to be an emotionally packed debate. fixyurdivot, ZackS, Josh Parker and 3 others 6 Quote Ping G430 Max driver 10.5 degrees with an Alta Quick45 gram senior shaft Callaway Epic 3 wood, Project X Evenflow Green 45 gram senior shaft Callaway GBB Epic Heavenwood, with a Mitsubishi Diamana 50 gram senior shaft Ping G 20.5 degree 7 wood, with a stock Alta 65 gram senior shaft Ping G 26 degree hybrid, stock Alta 65 gram senior shaft Callaway Paradym X irons, 7-AW with Aldila Ascent Blue 50 graphite shafts Edison wedges: 50, 55 and 60 degree, KBS Tour Graphite A flex shafts Putters: L.A.B. Direct Force 2.1 putter, 34.5" long, 67 degrees lie 2022 MGS Tester: Shot Scope Pro XL+ with H4 2023 MGS Tester: Callaway Paradym X Irons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Parker Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 16 hours ago, GolfSpy_SHARK said: Tough like Jamie said because I never witnessed Jack. but what I can say is I wish Tiger would stop getting into tournaments and withdrawing. I think it really hurts the legacy. I know this past one at riviera was “flu” but let’s be serious it was his back. Gotta know when to hang it up (easier said than done I know) I agree. This is a topic that I have thought about putting up but figured I would be strung up for mentioning. I have no doubt he wants to perform and be the Tiger everyone thinks he is but I also think he is withdrawing for that exact reason. My opinion is, he is struggling with hanging it up, rightfully so, and instead of letting fans down or even himself, he is "withdrawing" from the tournaments with illness. I couldn't imagine being in that position but I agree with you that it may be time. fixyurdivot, Javs and GolfSpy_SHARK 3 Quote Paradym TD Driver w/ Ventus Blue 6S 3W MKII ZX 5's (4-6) w/ KBS Tour V MKII ZX 7's (7-PW) w/ KBS Tour V Vokey Wedges 50* 54* 58* DF2.1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_SHARK Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, Josh Parker said: I agree. This is a topic that I have thought about putting up but figured I would be strung up for mentioning. I have no doubt he wants to perform and be the Tiger everyone thinks he is but I also think he is withdrawing for that exact reason. My opinion is, he is struggling with hanging it up, rightfully so, and instead of letting fans down or even himself, he is "withdrawing" from the tournaments with illness. I couldn't imagine being in that position but I agree with you that it may be time. I agree, I wish he could play, so good for the game. For me its like watching Jordan after the bulls, just isn't right and puts a sour view of what he did for the game for those that did not see him play. fixyurdivot, Josh Parker and Javs 3 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolter1 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 15 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Tiger had to deal with Phil and Vijay. Vijay won over 60 times on tour during the Tiger era. Not to mention guys like DL3, Freddie, Furyk. And Tiger doing it in less time is more impressive. You might want to go back and look at who Tiger competed against. If a great pitcher won 300 times in 20 years and another won that many in 15 years who is more impressive? The guy that did it quicker. This is really what it’s about, a bias that jades the perspective Your point is well taken, but here is what Jack faced in his career, Arnold (62 wins), Billy Casper (51), Tom Watson (39), Lee Trevino (29), Johnny Miller (25), Gary Player (24), Raymond Floyd (22), Doug Sanders (20), and that is just total wins and not their majors. Jack came in and the end of the Ben Hogan era and basically left when Greg Norman, Faldo and the rest were just starting. Tiger faced some good competition but just look who Jack had to fend off to win 18 majors with 19 runnerups. Javs and jaskanski 1 1 Quote Driver: Ping G430 SFT 10.5 Fairway Woods: Ping SFT G425 3-5 Hybrid Ping G410 4H Irons; Ping G425 5-LW Putter: Ping Anser 2 Ball: Titleist Tour Speed/AVX Bag: Titleist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShimmyCocoBop Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 It is sometimes interesting to read opinions on topics such as this one, but let's face it - until Mark Broadie develops a mathematical formula to determine the GOATs in any sport, none of the arguments are conclusive. Golf greats like Tiger, VJ, Watson, Jack, Palmer, Trevino, Player, Hogan, Snead, Nelson, Jones, Sarazen, Young Tom, and Old Tom (etc.) all had competitive spirits that were "better than most". fixyurdivot 1 Quote After retiring from the PGA of America, I did some demo days and club fitting for TaylorMade, Callaway, Titleist, Ping, Cobra, Srixon and Mizuno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subdiver1 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Honestly, aside from my frustration with the garbage distance discussion, I agree with @Javsand @Shrek74. It would be hard to say that if Jack in his prime had the condition training, equipment etc. and had grown up with the discipline and grinding training that Tiger's dad put home through that he wouldn't have increased his wins exponentially. But you can't prove a negative, you can only extrapolate from what you have for evidence. I'd vote Jack if I had to choose, I'd just have to bite my cheek over the aforementioned issue. What any of those guys did with the equipment we had back then makes many of them competitive/comparable against today's players. Consider what they accomplished without all of the advantages (not just equipment wise) and I think it is tough to unequivocally state that any player today is any better than pre-2000s players. Just my 2 cents though Shrek74 1 Quote Driver - Ping G400 9°, Project-X Evenflow Black 6.0S 65 gr. FW - TM M3 3-wood 15°, Project-X HZRDUS Red 6.0 75 gr. mid-spin Hybrid - TM M4 19°, Project-X Evenflow Black 6.0S 85 gr. HY Irons - TM P790, 3-PW, Oban CT-115, PXG 311 P Gen 6 Wedges - Mizuno T20 Ion blue 52/9 & 56/14, N.S. Pro Modus3 S-flex Putter - Evnroll ER2 Garsen Max grip Getting a grip - oversize Winn DryTacs and Bionic gloves Ball - ProV1, AVX, Maxfli Tour, PXG Bag(s)/cart - Vessel Player III Rovic RV1S and Alphard V2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Steve Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) Saw them both… Jack from the ‘70’s on and TW his whole career. I give a slight playing edge to Jack. Extra points to jack for doing what he did with crap wound balls (compared to what TW had most of his career) AND using tiny persimmons! Final tie breaker goes to Jack for his off course demeanor and integrity vs the apparent lack there of for TW. Start at TW’s ex whacking him upside the head with an iron for cheating and run with it… Also, loved the color combo of black and red pre TW, now I make sure that I never wear that combo anywhere near a golf course. Edited February 23 by Another Steve GaDawg and Javs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhammer Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Tiger has always said that your career is defined by how many majors you win and Jack's number was always his target from the time he was little boy. So, IMHO, Jack is the greatest championship golfer of all time, but Tiger is probably the best golfer of all time. Quote Driver: Speed Zone 9* HZRDUS Smoke Yellow Shaft 3 Wood: King Speedzone 13.5* HZRDUS Smoke Black Shaft 2 & 3 Hybrids: Speedzone Recoil 480 ESX Shaft Irons: Speedzone 5-GW Recoil 460 ESX Shafts Wedges: PM Grind 54* & 58* Putter: Dual Force Rossi II Ball: Whatever I find in the woods HCP:18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradka13 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 I am just old enough to have seen the tail end of Jack's career. When Tiger was starting out, I was fairly "anti-Tiger". At this point I think anyone that says there is a clear-cut GOAT is not being honest with themselves. I think Tiger had the opportunity to clearly take that title, but he made some questionable (my opinion) choices during his career. The 2 biggest being... 1. Continually reworking his swing even when he was already clearly the best player in the world at the time. 2. Choosing to play with inferior equipment most of his career. Granted, this worked out just fine for him financially but likely hurts his lifetime stats. So, to answer your question, I would give the slight edge to Tiger due to how dominant he was in his prime, but can't help but wonder what might have been if it weren't for poor choices and injuries. Quote Driver - Titleist TS2 3 Wood - TaylorMade Rocketballz 2 Hybrids - Taylormade Rescue knockoffs Irons - Taylormade Burner 2.0 52 Degree - Cleveland CG14 56 Degree - Titleist Vokey BV 60 Degree - Ping Glide 3.0 Ball - Depends if I find in or have to pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingSlender Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 To me, it's pretty easy: Nobody has played the game at a higher level than Tiger, but he'd trade his career for Jack's to have the record for major wins. It's Jack. Another Steve and GaDawg 1 1 Quote WITB Driver - 9 Degree Callaway Rogue Max LS 3 Wood - 14.5 Degree Taylor Made Sim 2 Hybrid - 19 Degree Callaway Irons - 4 - Gap Mizuno JPX 921 Forged Wedges - 54 & 58 Titleist Vokey SM8 Putter - Scotty Cameron Newport+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huse343 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 If we are referring to who was better when they were in their prime, I’d say Tiger. Long, impeccable ball striking, and an unreal tough around the greens. Match play - Tiger wins it in 16 holes. ZackS and GaDawg 1 1 Quote Stealth 2 driver, Sim Max 2 3W, Nike VRPro 5W, Stealth irons, Cleveland ZipCore wedges, and Odyssey White Ice 330 putter. TP5x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaDawg Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Never been a Tiger fan. The media just pushed me away by trying to cram him down our throats. Hard to compare due to different equipment, balls, etc. I'll take Jack. Javs 1 Quote Driver: TSI3 - 10*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff Driver: Stealth Plus - 10.5*, Oban Kiyoshi Purple O4Flex-65 Grams Purred 3 Wood: SIM - 15*, Graphite Design Tour AD DJ5 Stiff Hybrid: TS3 - 19*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff Irons: 5 - PW T150, with Nippon Zelos 7 Reg, 4 iron - U505 with Project X HZRDUS Black Stiff Wedges: Vokey SM 8 - 50*, 60* Standard Wedge Shafts Wedge: Milled Grind 3 MG3 56* S200 shaft Putter: Studio Select Newport 1.5 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DE_Illini Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 At his best Tiger was the best golfer. He simply dominated. However, over their entire career I think Jack has the edge. Better overall record in majors. Quote Driver: Cobra Bio Cell3 wood: Cobra Fly Z3/4 Hybrid: Cobra BafflerIrons: Ping G25 5 - SWfLW: Titleist Vokey 58Putter: Scotty Cameron Studio Stainless Newport 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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