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Bespoke suits come at a hefty price due to the dearth of providers. In return for your money the world's finest tailors select the finest fabrics to produce a garment of unparalleled quality and fit; unique to your personal geometry and tastes. It's a time intensive process requiring knowledge and skills earned through tens of thousands of hours experience. None of the production responsibility can be delegated to underlings so most of the cost is the tailor's substantial time investment. None of them are wealthy.

 

Are you starting to identify any parallels? But comparing JP to a bespoke tailor is a slight because you can find bespoke tailors in just about any metro around the globe but there is only one JP. He is the Da Vinci of golf. We are all very lucky that his passion for personalization lives on in the JP fitting experience. I believe his vision is the future of short game systems, full stop. He's passionate, genuine, thoughtful, personally demanding and unquestionably generous simply for sharing his genius in one on one sessions. His entire life's work has been devoted to making _you_ a better golfer! Bandying about callous personal opinions regarding the perceived inflated value of the golden child's honest blood, sweat and tears serves only to discourage other unknown visionaries from hanging up their own shingle. Makes me nauseous to hear $150 price point comparisons in the same breath as JP's work. He's going to be a busy man and it's rightfully deserved.

 

 

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Post of the year so far right there!  Well said downlowkey!

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Driver:  Sub 70 639D - 9.5; :cleveland-small: Launcher HB Turbo; :mizuno-small: ST 190 
FW Wood: :tour-edge: Tour Edge EXS 220 - 15*; :mizuno-small: ST 180 14*
Hybrids:  PXG 0311 22
Utility Irons: :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model Utilities 18, 21, 24*;  Lynx VT Stinger - 16*
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Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX -2, :benhogan-small:Riviera 52-56-60; :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model
Putter:   :edel-golf-1:  Willamette,  :bettinardi-small: BB8,  :benhogan-small:Baby Ben

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I wasn't arguing price, $350 ea for an Edel (forged) and whatever the fitting cost is. So for 3 wedges only your looking at $1050, I'm guessing fitting is around $350? So $1400, the extra $600 for JP to personally build you some wedges is well worth it. Just please - please -please have a custom studio like Scotty sometime in the future!

 

I too jumped the gun in judging. But if you read Zinger's articles you'll see why. His original work is what I fell in love with.

 

 

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Some of the replies in the blog post are borderline comical - just because someone is offering a wedge experience doesn't mean golf is "dying." It's sort of the cum hoc, ergo propter hoc (with this, therefore because of this) fallacy. People forget that a $2,000 wedge experience doesn't mean less expensive wedges will be impossible to buy...

 

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Motel 6, Ritz-Carlton or somewhere in the middle - take your pick based on what the spirit wants and the wallet permits.

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What's in the bag:
 
Driver:  Sub 70 639D - 9.5; :cleveland-small: Launcher HB Turbo; :mizuno-small: ST 190 
FW Wood: :tour-edge: Tour Edge EXS 220 - 15*; :mizuno-small: ST 180 14*
Hybrids:  PXG 0311 22
Utility Irons: :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model Utilities 18, 21, 24*;  Lynx VT Stinger - 16*
Irons::wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged; :benhogan-small:PTx Pro, :macgregor-small: VIP 1025 V-Foil MB/CB; :wilson_staff_small: Progressives (circa 1993)

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX -2, :benhogan-small:Riviera 52-56-60; :wilson_staff_small: Staff Model
Putter:   :edel-golf-1:  Willamette,  :bettinardi-small: BB8,  :benhogan-small:Baby Ben

Ball: :bridgestone-small: Tour B X (2020); :srixon-small: Z-STAR XV

Stat Tracker/GPS Watch: :ShotScope:


 
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The more I think of it, it sounds like one hell of a vacation to me. You guys talked some sense into me.

 

 

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Some of the replies in the blog post are borderline comical - just because someone is offering a wedge experience doesn't mean golf is "dying." It's sort of the cum hoc, ergo propter hoc (with this, therefore because of this) fallacy. People forget that a $2,000 wedge experience doesn't mean less expensive wedges will be impossible to buy...

 

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Motel 6, Ritz-Carlton or somewhere in the middle - take your pick based on what the spirit wants and the wallet permits.

It's inflation. No big deal. Yugo or a Ferrari. Everyone wants a Ferrari.

 

 

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Well everyone else send to have already made all the valid points. I'll just say I wish had all the disposable income in the world to buy all the golf stuff I want but I don't be satisfied with more regular wedges

 

 

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The more I think of it, it sounds like one hell of a vacation to me. You guys talked some sense into me.

 

 

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We should start a GoFundMe page for Shank. I have a feeling we'll need another one for a plastic surgeon to remove the perma-smile!

 

 

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For those truly interested in the fitting experience, raw and uncut, my friend Ryan will detail his comprehensive session out at TPI.

 

He will have tons of photographs, video, it was unreal the work he put into it. Sure the video and pics by Titleist are nice, but it's fun to see uncut snapshots from the perspective of a participant. If you have interest in the process, you'll know exactly what you can expect from his pictorial journey.

 

At the time of my fitting, pictures were not permitted. However, he completed his about a month later and went absolutely hog wild.

 

 

 

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It's inflation. No big deal. Yugo or a Ferrari. Everyone wants a Ferrari.

 

 

- Alan

Years ago, when you purchased a new Corvette, they gave you a Yugo also. Just sayin'...  ;)

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Great to see this option available to those that can afford it. I'm just not there yet. Maybe someday. Until then, I'm OK with my vokey Spin mills until they get replaced in the next few weeks with SM6 or RTX 3 wedges.

 

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How much is this going to change the Wedge game? I mean the "pros" use "stock" clubs right? Obviously not stock, but you and I can walk into a store and get something very similar to what they use, and heck most companies let you customize them. Are more companies going to find their "JP" to compete with them?

 

Can't wait to see how this changes the game.

 

 

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How much is this going to change the Wedge game? I mean the "pros" use "stock" clubs right? Obviously not stock, but you and I can walk into a store and get something very similar to what they use, and heck most companies let you customize them. Are more companies going to find their "JP" to compete with them?

 

Can't wait to see how this changes the game.

 

 

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Great question Alan! Yeah, the pros use "stock" much like the old JPs were "stock" Vokeys with just a few mods... J/K! Customized clubs but something any good machinist could conceivable produce with a drill and a bench grinder. These new JPs are another animal. Wedges are interesting, there have been so many attempts to use modern technology but the best stuff in the game, more than for any other club is still just good old forged steel with a shape that hasn't changed much in 60 years! Maybe JP's the guy to do it!

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Fairway Woods:  :cobra-small:  Cobra F6 13.5*, F6 Baffler 16*  

Irons: Split Set-  :ping-small: i200 3i - 7i ,  :benhogan-small: Ft Worth 15s, 8 (36), 9 (40), PW (44) 

Wedges: :benhogan-small:  TK, 52* & 56*

Putter:  :ping-small: Sigma G Kushin 

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Like I said, wedges are my favorite club, so this is fricking exciting even if I wasn't onboard at first. I am now.

 

 

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LOVE the looks of these JP wedges but spending $2K for 3 of them is insane IMO.  That said, it's why PXG has been able to survive and thrive the way they have - there are consumers out there who believe that particular product is going to deliver on some sort of tangible benefit to them.  I've played both the PXG 0311 and 0311T and re-sold both sets because they didn't do anything more than my set of $700 mainstream irons.  I can't see these JP wedges doing anything more than making your golf bag look crazy sexy.

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You will still run into varying turf conditions as you travel and as weather conditions change.  I know my sharper leading edge wedges which work great in dry, firm conditions tend to bury and stick when I move on to softer, wetter conditions.  

 

Your wedges can compensate and be an all-purpose grind set for the most conditions.  But what if your conditions don't mimic SoCal?  I hope (and assume) that JP is conpensating for those living in to softer soil of the Ohio valley and the clay of the Midwest as well as the packed quartz of Arizona.  

 

I'm reminded of the Snake Eyes sand iron of the 1990s. No wedge is perfect for every condition, but a great compromise will maximize your ability to make shots.  I think having someone like JP grinding your wedges will definitely help.  But it, in itself, will not revolutionize your wedge game.  A grind, properly applied, will absolutely help.  But you can still do a lot with a 1988 Cleveland RTG or a 1958 Wilson Staff Dynapower.  Both wedges have Tour validation and history for a reason.  

 

I wish JP well.  We'll see how these wedges do in the market and if they see any Tour success.  

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Golf is hurting. It's expensive to play and the equipment is way to expensive. To me if you want to grow the game and get kids involved and young adults to try the game and get hook all you have to do is roll back prices. That's for play and equipment

 

 

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