PJVicary Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 The night before the morning round I am usually facing the question of what wedges to put in the bag. It used to be easy. You had a PW and a SW and go get em! Now you also must decide between adding a 50, 52, 54, 56, 60 or some model bent in between . Are we making a game that used to be fun more complicated than it should be? Before this posting I went out in the shop (aka garage) and counted. 22 wedges! I have never attempted to do a study whereby I correlate scores to which wedges I chose. Did it really make a difference? II know different types of sand may require different types of bounce or different leading edges. Having said that, given that most of our rounds are played on the same two or three courses and the days of shooting under par have left the building, I thing it’s time to go back to the basics. One pitching wedge, one sand wedge and get out and have fun. What say you? TG8, Julius, Leonvdwesthuizen and 2 others 5 Quote Using Cure CX3 putter Link to comment
Brooky03 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I own 3 wedges and carry 3 wedges; 50, 54, 58. So, I don't have to worry about moving wedges in/out of the bag but I don't think it would be something I'd worry much about if I did have more wedges to choose from. The 50 and 54 are almost exclusively full swing clubs. The 58 is my 'do everything' around the green club. It's simple enough for me. A little more complexity probably wouldn't hurt my enjoyment and a little more simplicity (like a 52 and 56 instead of all 3) probably wouldn't hurt either. This might all come down to the variety and types of courses people play. The courses that I play don't have a ton of sand and from course-to-course it's pretty much the same (the brown stuff, not the nice fluffy white stuff), so bounce is much less of a concern. hoppman and PJVicary 2 Quote Link to comment
Mr Orange Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 My bag I based on gapping. Have pw (42.5), gw (48), and then a 52/56/60. Closer gapping at the end of the bag. Allows me a wider variety of choice depending on the shot when I’m closer to the green. PJVicary and Stereotype 2 Quote Link to comment
Rosey31 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) I remember the days before a 60 wedge was popular and you had Pw and Sw. That was also when most PW were 47,48 deg to. With the way clubs are lofted today it does present a larger gap at the lower end of the bag. I keep a PW, 50, 56 and 60 in my bag. For me, this fits 90% of the courses I play. The only real change I will make is maybe move to a higher bounce for my 56 and 60 if we've gotten a ton of rain down here. Everyone's game is different. I play with guys who carry 5-6 wedges cause they do not like hitting half swings. They want to have a full swing on everything. Find your combo that fits you and go with that. Edited August 11, 2023 by Rosey31 PJVicary and Kenny B 2 Quote Driver: TSi2 9* Ventus Black 6S Fairway: TSi2 15* Speeder Evo III 70S Utility: T-200 3 Iron Ventus Blue HB-8S Irons: 620CB w/ DGTI X100 4-6 Irons: 620MB w/ DGTI X100 7-PW Wedges: SM9 50/08F 56/12S 60/04T Putter: Super Select Newport 2+ 34" Ball: Pro V1 #31 (Currently Ball Testing) Link to comment
4putt4me Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 My pw is 44. And I carry a 48,52,56. Only use 48 and 52 for full shots and do everything else with the 56. 56 has been the best club in my bag for several years now. PJVicary 1 Quote J. Christman Link to comment
Bossfan Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I have 4 PW-45, 50, 54 and 58 PJVicary 1 Quote D- Tour Edge EXS 220 4W- Sub 70 949X Hybrid- Sub 70 949X Utility- Sub 70 699 U 21 degree Irons- Sub 70 749 5-PW Wedges- Sub 70 286 50+54, Tour Edge 1 out 58 degree Putter- Cleveland Huntington Beach soft # 11 Ball- Titleist Tour Soft Link to comment
TG8 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 48/52/56 is my personal preference with the 56 being versatile to be able to lay open or closed. This may be an unpopular opinion but I think the majority of mid to high handicap players should not use a 60. Ive played with too many people losing unnecessary strokes around the green by sliding a 60 right under that ball. mpgolf18 and PJVicary 2 Quote WITB Driver: TSR4 9* - GD VF 5x FW/Hybrid: Stealth Plus 15* 3 wood | 18* 2 hybrid Irons: Mizuno MP225 4-GW - modus tour 120X Wedges: Edison 2.0 52* | 56* Putter: L.A.B. Link.1 Ball: Pro V1x Left Dash Tech: Foresight Sports GC3 Tests: The Edison Challenge featuring Edison 2.0 Wedges Callaway Whitebox Testing: Chrome Tour & Chrome Tour X Link to comment
GaDawg Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 For me it’s a PW @ 44, 50, 56 & 60. PJVicary and chris_ 2 Quote Driver: TSI3 - 10*, Hzrdus Smoke 6.0 Stiff Driver: Qi10 - 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.0 Stiff 3 Wood: Qi10 - 15*, Graphite Design Tour AD DJ5 Stiff 5 Wood: Qi10 - Ventus TR Reg Irons: 5 - PW T150, with Nippon Zelos 7 Reg, 4 iron - U505 with Project X HZRDUS Black Stiff Wedges: Vokey SM 9 - 50*, 60* Standard Wedge Shafts Wedge: Milled Grind 3 MG3 56* S200 shaft Putter: Studio Select Newport 1.5 Putter: Phantom X 5.5 Ball: Pro V1x Link to comment
Kenny B Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 10 hours ago, Rosey31 said: I remember the days before a 60 wedge was popular and you had Pw and Sw. That was also when most PW were 47,48 deg to. With the way clubs are lofted today it does present a larger gap at the lower end of the bag. I keep a PW, 50, 56 and 60 in my bag. For me, this fits 90% of the courses I play. The only real change I will make is maybe move to a higher bounce for my 56 and 60 if we've gotten a ton of rain down here. Everyone's game is different. I play with guys who carry 5-6 wedges cause they do not like hitting half swings. They want to have a full swing on everything. Find your combo that fits you and go with that. I’ve gone back to my old set. PW is 48º then 54º SW and 60º LW. I can do everything I need to do with these 3 wedges. PJVicary 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment
JimMLINY Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 3 P - 48* A - 52* S/L - 56* PJVicary and SasquatchN64 2 Quote Epic Flash Driver 10.5 deg Project X Even Flow 5.0-A 45G Epic Flash 3 wood 15 deg Project X Even Flow 5.0-A 65G Epic Flash 5 wood 18 deg Project X Even Flow 5.0-A 55G Epic Flash 7 wood 21 deg Project X Even Flow 5.0-A 65G TaylorMade Qi irons 5-A UST Mamiya Recoil ESX 460|F2 Equalizer II 52deg UST Recoil 760-F2/A-Flex Sure Out 2 56deg UST Mamiya Wedge 65 Meridian Okatie putter Link to comment
MNUte Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 48, 52 and 58. I'm comfortable with partial wedge shots (yay clock system!) so I try to keep myself from over thinking by having fewer clubs. PJVicary 1 Quote Rag tag bag, but it does the job. Taylormade R1 driver. Ping G400 3 wood. Cleveland Halo Launcher 3 hybrid. Cleveland CBX launcher irons (5-PW). Assorted wedges (48, 52, 58). Odyssey White Hot Pro 2.0 putter. Link to comment
tony@CIC Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 Currently have a GP 49*, 52*, 56* and 60*. Based on my Shotscope data, there's only about a 10 yd. difference between my 56 and 60. In talking to the INDI Wedge guys, I decided to change it up and while I'm keeping my GP, the new INDI wedges are 54* and 60*. So that's one less wedge in the bad. PJVicary 1 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment
aguybadatgolf Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) I got a new set of irons about a month ago now and have some new gapping issues. My old PW was a my 130-140 club, 50 was 120-130, 54 for 110-120, and 58 for anything 100 and in. My new PW goes 150-160. So I have a decent gap which has me considering adding a 48 degree just to get a club back in the 130-140 range. I think it really depends on how you like your gapping and how good you are with feel shots. I am a higher handicap so just being able to full swing is worth an extra wedge so I don’t have to try to get to fancy with it. Edited August 14, 2023 by aguybadatgolf PJVicary 1 Quote Tester Opportunities 2024 Ping S159 Wedges 2023 Zebra AIT3 Putter The Bag Driver - Paradym Ai Smoke MAX Driver with Project X Denali - 6.5 3W - Paradym 15° with Kai'li™ White - X 3H - Gen5 0311 19° with Ventus Blue Velocore - X Driving Iron - 699 Pro 20° with UST PROFORCE V2 Hybrid White/Yellow - X Irons - 6-PW 699 Pro in black with Dynamic Gold X100 Wedges - S159 50, 54, 58 Dynamic Gold X100 (TESTER) Putter - KING 3D Printed Agera Armlock Putter , Zebra AIT 3 (On time out) Ball - Z-Star XV or Pro Plus Tester for 2024 Ping S159 Wedges 2023 Zebra AIT3 Putter Link to comment
LinksgolfFever Posted August 14, 2023 Share Posted August 14, 2023 I have been gaming Edison wedges for the past year and I really enjoy them. Three wedges (49º,53ºand 57º), the gap between my PW and 49 is a little larger than i'd prefer ~15-18yds., but with that I've forced myself to practice partial shots and it has been worth it. Between the 3 wedges I have about 8-10yd. gaps. Depending on lie weather conditions I can shrink that some if I need something a little higher, a little longer, etc.. PJVicary 1 Quote B_LinksGolf "Any day golfing is better than a day in the office" What's in the Bag: Driver: Callaway Rogue ST 3diamond LS: Tensei raw blue 65g stiff 3w/5w: Callaway Rogue ST LS: Tensei raw blue 65g stiff 4i-6i: Callaway '24 Apex CB/Modus 3 130 X-stiff 7i-10i: Callaway '24 Apex MB/Modus 3 130 X-stiff Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw (matte black) 50ºs-grind/54ºs-grind/58ºz-grind Putter: Callaway AI-one Jailbird mini DB 35" Link to comment
JerryB Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 I carry a set PW and GW, and also a 52 and 58. These replaced my old wedges which were 50 54 and 60. I think the chase for more distance at the top of the bag has lead to the desire for more wedge coverage at the bottom, and I've kinda fallen for that myself. I'm pretty happy with my bag setup right now, but in the future I'd like to try to think more in terms of hitting certain distances and filling in the gaps, rather than just trying to go as far as possible at all times. PJVicary 1 Quote Cobra Aerojet Max driver Cobra Aerojet Max 3 wood and 7 wood Cobra Aerojet 4/5/6 hybrids Cobra Aerojet 7-PW, GW Cobra Snakebite 52° and 58° wedges Cobra King Stingray 20 putter Link to comment
Paul Hedrick Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 I carry three wedges. My pitching wedge which is 44 degrees, and a 54 and 60 degree wedge. For my level of play, that is enough for now. PJVicary 1 Quote Bag C130, 14 way Cart Bag Driver TSR1 Fairway. Halo XL Hy-Wood 4+ Fairway GBB Epic 5 Hybrid Epic Flash 3H Irons Launcher HB, 4 through PW Wedges CBX2 - 54 degree, CBX Zipcore 52 degree Putter Seemore Si1 Putter Ball Titleist pro v1x Other Link to comment
DiscipleofPenick Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 Of course I have the PW from my set, but I've been a 50-54-58 player for over 15 years and I'm not changing. All my wedges are Vokey. Though in the near future, I am going to have to figure something out because Titleist no longer offers my L grind 58/4 wedge any longer. PJVicary 1 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment
Wilsonplaysgolf Posted August 15, 2023 Share Posted August 15, 2023 I carry a 50, 54, 58. The 58 pretty much only gets used in bunkers and I’ll chop and change between 50 & 54 around the green depending on roll out. PJVicary 1 Quote Stealth 2+, M2 5 wood, P770 4-PW, SM9 50,54,58, Scotty Cameron Super select 2.5+ Link to comment
GolfSpy_APH Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Pretty sure I am like many and use 4. PW, GW and then 54 58. It is a combo I have felt at home with and one that would be tough to go away from at this point...however you never know! PJVicary 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment
Leonvdwesthuizen Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I think I agree with your statement @PJVicary I remember the days when if you bought a set of irons you would get a (sometimes 2 iron)3 - PW, SW, and that left you with only enough room in the bag for either 2/3 x wedges, depending if you had a FW or not... nowadays you only get a 5 - 9, PW.. so possibly more room for wedges. I only have a 52deg & 60deg wedge in my set of clubs, my irons consist of 4 - SW irons, so nothing left there to add and I make do.. I can use a hybrid or my 9iron around the green.. it's also about being creative and use what works for you, but I agree that having too many wedges complicates the game of golf.. PJVicary 1 Quote MY WITB list Bag: Adidas 7 way stand bag Cart: Model 3 Driver: Stealth 9° FW: D9 Fairway Hybrid: Launcher Irons: D9 4 - PW Wedges: S159 - 50deg, 54deg, 60deg Putter: Kia Ma Daytona Ball: Soft Response, AD333, Supersoft 2024 Tester - S159 wedges. See my review here: Link to comment
CrazyGolfNut Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) I have a PW and GW from my iron set with are basicly 10 & 11 irons. My true wedges are 52 & 56. Edited August 16, 2023 by CrazyGolfNut Woody83 and PJVicary 2 Quote Driver _ Ping G400 Max Woods _ Ping G410 3 & 5 | Cleveland Launcher XL HALO 7 Hybrid _ Titleist 818 H1 25deg Irons _ Titleist T300 6-GW Wedges _ Titleist SM10 52F & 56S Putter _ Odyssey Dual Force Rossie 2 or Rife Two Bar Hybrid Distance _ Bushnell Phantom 2 GPS | Bushnell Tour V6 Shift Ball _ Titleist Pro V1 yellow or Srixon Q Star Tour 5 Yellow GHIN _ HCP floats between 8 & 12 "Never bet against an old man with old clubs that have new grips" Link to comment
tsheaffer23 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Have carried four wedges for a number of years. PW-46*, AW-50*, SW-54* & LW 58*. I prefer having more options nearer the hole and have found overall that carrying more wedges has helped my overall score. Woody83 and PJVicary 2 Quote Troy Sheaffer Link to comment
King Cobra Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I used to carry 5 wedges PW -45* , AW -49* , 52* , 56* 60* When I got my new Irons I now only carry 4 as it allows me to carry a 5 wood, PW - 46* , AW -50* , 54* mid bounce and 58* low bounce PW & AW used pretty much for full shots the other 2 for everything else . Woody83, PJVicary and BallsLeon 3 Quote Srixon ZX7 Driver Hazardous Smoke Stiff Shaft Titleist TSR 15* Fairway wood , Diamana Blue Stiff Shaft Srixon ZX , 5 Wood , Hazardous Smoke Reg Shaft Titleist TSR 21* Hybrid Diamana Blue Stiff Shaft Taylormade P770 5-A Wedge Irons , KBS Tour Stiff Shafts Cleveland RTX 5 Zipcore Wedges 54* & 58* DG Spinner Shafts Tayormade Spider X Blue Putter Titleist 14 Way Sta Dry Stand / Carry Bag Srixon Z Star Xv Ball Yellow Link to comment
ChiefMikeOfficer Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Historically carried the PW from the stock set, along with 52/56/60 - in high school, that's what our local pro recommended, and I had that setup for almost 20 years. Started tweaking lofts a bit (like 50/54/60), and also long clubs, and just this year changed it up - now that I have both a 3w and driving iron in the bag, the new wedge setup is: 46 (replaces the PW from my irons), 54, 58. Haven't found myself in any positions where I miss the extra wedge, and my handicap is now the lowest it's ever been. Only issue is the bigger gap between 9i and PW, but that's manageable. Woody83 and PJVicary 2 Quote Driver: Qi10 LS 8* w/Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 6X or Terra Forza Yellow+ (MGS Test in Progress!) Fairway: Stealth2 Plus, 15* (adjusted to 14.25*) w/ Graphite Design Tour AD-IZ 7X Irons: U505 1 Iron (16*), T200 "Utility Build" 3 and 4 irons, all with Graphite Design Tour AD-IZ 95 X Flex, T100S 5-9 with Nippon Pro Modus 120 X Flex (2021 MGS Test). These things are monsters. Wedges: SM9 46.10, 54.12, and 58.08, all with custom etchings & KBS Tour Masters-themed shafts, X-flex (CHA Post) Putter: Total headcase and Putter Ho. Down to two main options in the rotation (one mallet, one blade), but have 4-5 by the basement putting green that might make it in the bag at some point this year... Mallet: Mezz XL 36" Orange; Blade: Link.1 w/Accra White shaft & grip Link to comment
paul6057 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) I have a pitching wedge from my iron set which is a 46 degree, and then I have a 52 and 58 degree wedge separately from that. For me the critical question is how strong your iron lofts are and what the loft of your pitching wedge or 9 iron is. On a T300 set with a 43 degree pitching, I would add three wedges on top of that to give me a 4-6 degree gap depending on preference. I used to have a 52, 56 and 60 degree wedge set before that and I found that I never used the 56, other than for bunker shots, which I can play well enough with the 58 if it's a short bunker shot. It seemed a waste carrying an additional club for that and I saw more benefit in being able to add an extra hybrid at the top end of my bag. Edited August 16, 2023 by paul6057 PJVicary, Woody83 and Kevin Kelley 2 1 Quote Link to comment
fossil Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I have been playing the same basic wedges for 20 years, 60, 54, gap and pitching. I will buy new clubs but I use the same mizuno wedges. Woody83 and PJVicary 2 Quote Link to comment
GolfSpy_KFT Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I may be a bit of an anomaly when it comes to wedges as I have PW, GW, 52/56/60. However, the loft on my Aerojet set PW is 41.5° and GW is 47.5°, so without the GW or 52°, I’d have a huge gap in the bottom end of my bag. I also really like wedge play, so having multiple is quite fun for me. Woody83, PJVicary, BallsLeon and 1 other 3 1 Quote Driver: GT3 9|Tour AD-UB 6S (testing in progress) Fairways: GT2 15 & 18|Tour AD-UB 7S (testing in progress) | Aerojet Max 7|Kai'Li White 70X Hybrid: King TEC 3H|MCA MMT 85g Stiff Irons: Aerojet 6-GW|KBS $-taper Lite Stiff Wedges: Vokey SM10 52.12F|56.12D|True Temper Vokey Wedge Flex Putter: Super Select Newport 2.0 Ball: Tour & ProV1 #LeftyGang Titleist GT Long Game Test (Link Here) Cobra 50th Anniversary Member Special Challenge (link here) Link to comment
Kevin Kelley Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I carry 4. a 48, 52, 56 and 60 degree lob wedge. Sometimes I find myself between the 52 and 56 and find that chocking down on the 52 isn’t consistently effective. PJVicary and Woody83 2 Quote Kevin F Kelley Link to comment
Up and Down Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Stick with the wedges that you have the most confidence in....I'm a firm believer that I can do just about anything with my Vokey M Grind 60 from 85 yards in and around the green - Versatile grind that allows me to open, close, skip, lob and I have confidence in it....Playing the same course conditions in central TX pretty much everywhere allows same wedges...Don't over-complicate it :-). Woody83 and PJVicary 2 Quote i230 Gap-7 iron, i525 6-5 iron Vokey SM8 wedges 54 & 60, Driver TSi3 9 degrees, TSR2+ 13 degrees SIM Max 7 and 5 woods Toulon Garage Portland putter Its all about 100 yards in. Link to comment
Old Joe Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Because of wet conditions and heavy bermuda rough this time of year in coastal South Carolina, will sometimes have to add a low bounce 60 for wet sand or deep rough to more bounce 57. As i age, sometimes choose between old school lofted 47 degree PW and 52 Gap W. Woody83 and PJVicary 1 1 Quote WITB: PXG Gen 6 Driver (stiff Haz RDX Stiff -1/2”), Callaway UW17 (Haz RDX Stiff), Callaway UW19 (Haz RDX Stiff -1”), Takomo 101 4-PW (KBS 105 Reg 2 flat), Miz Pro225 G (ProjX IO 6.0), Wilson Staff HT (DynGold 120 Stiff, Honma Forged 60 (SteelFiber1 10CW XStiff), Tony Penna heel shafted square flange as Link to comment
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