Stack Training System - 2023 Forum Member Review

[ShankSensei]

Greetings from New UK user

Have been following this thread for a while and today took the plunge for TheStack.

Did have some used superspeed sticks but I found the lack of app and ''game'' aspect just led me to not using them. Did see they have had an app pinned since January but im fed up of waiting.

It's bank holiday over here this weekend so I intend to get out in the garden and give the system a go. Have a rapsodo mlm2pro which I will use to log the speed.

Looking forward to it  High Handicapper and I think at present my current driver swing speed is somewhere like 90-94. IF I can get triple digits id be ecstatic! Also intend to let my old man (70) use it, am I right in thinking he can have his own account and use the same serial? I'd love to see him gain some mph too, we both took up the sport just under a year ago now but its become a great way of spending more time together.

[Dooby]

Anyone seem to have issues or major differences between the Stack's estimated driver swing speed versus what your on course driver swing speed is? Part of me thinks my issue is very mental as I seem to be quite a bit slower on course than I am when doing the protocol/practicing/etc.

[DaveP043]

10 minutes ago, Dooby said:

Anyone seem to have issues or major differences between the Stack's estimated driver swing speed versus what your on course driver swing speed is? Part of me thinks my issue is very mental as I seem to be quite a bit slower on course than I am when doing the protocol/practicing/etc.

My personal best eSpeed is about 98 or 99 mph, if I remember right.  Remember, that's at Max Effort, a level of effort I'm really unlikely to use on the course, or even on the range.  When I'm warming up to play, I generally get my driver speed at 94-95 mph, which seems reasonably close given the difference in effort level.

[Dooby]

29 minutes ago, DaveP043 said:

My personal best eSpeed is about 98 or 99 mph, if I remember right.  Remember, that's at Max Effort, a level of effort I'm really unlikely to use on the course, or even on the range.  When I'm warming up to play, I generally get my driver speed at 94-95 mph, which seems reasonably close given the difference in effort level.

My current Stack Speed is 105, Driver eSpeed is 113 and I think my on course average actual driver speed is typically like 103ish

[skraeling]

48 minutes ago, Dooby said:

Anyone seem to have issues or major differences between the Stack's estimated driver swing speed versus what your on course driver swing speed is? Part of me thinks my issue is very mental as I seem to be quite a bit slower on course than I am when doing the protocol/practicing/etc.

my stack speed maxes out at 107 and im cruising at roughly 100-102ish I think.  Given my top drives have been in the 280ish yard range.stack speed would be 94, espeed of 103.

You will always swing slower with a ball especially so till you learn to release the kraken and let go and swing harder, the goal being that you raise your max far enough that your crusing speed is much faster than it used to be.

So far that has proven the case for me.  Even just cruising my drives on average are farther than they used to be.  I dont hit a 280yd bomb every time mind you.  Physical / weather / fairway will all affect your speed and distance.  Speed is very touchy to your physical condition at the time.

One round doing just air swings I was hitting 105mph pretty easily, dont remember how the actual ball driving message went but the speed was availible.

[GolfSpy_BOS]

12 minutes ago, Dooby said:

My current Stack Speed is 105, Driver eSpeed is 113 and I think my on course average actual driver speed is typically like 103ish

It's fairly typical to see a difference in the two once you start to factor actually hitting a ball in the equation.  It takes a concentrated effort to get that on-course speed closer to the Stack speeds given the actual skill part required to hit the ball in play.

 

Next time you are hitting a bucket of balls make an effort to go all out on some after your warm without worrying about contact and see if you pick up some speed.

[Dooby]

2 minutes ago, GolfSpy BOS said:

It's fairly typical to see a difference in the two once you start to factor actually hitting a ball in the equation.  It takes a concentrated effort to get that on-course speed closer to the Stack speeds given the actual skill part required to hit the ball in play.

 

Next time you are hitting a bucket of balls make an effort to go all out on some after your warm without worrying about contact and see if you pick up some speed.

Will do. I kind of thought it may be more of a mental thing but was curious if people were seeing enough discrepancy or differences to maybe suggest Stack Speed and Driver eSpeed data isn't very accurate or reliable.

6 minutes ago, skraeling said:

my stack speed maxes out at 107 and im cruising at roughly 100-102ish I think.  Given my top drives have been in the 280ish yard range.stack speed would be 94, espeed of 103.

You will always swing slower with a ball especially so till you learn to release the kraken and let go and swing harder, the goal being that you raise your max far enough that your crusing speed is much faster than it used to be.

So far that has proven the case for me.  Even just cruising my drives on average are farther than they used to be.  I dont hit a 280yd bomb every time mind you.  Physical / weather / fairway will all affect your speed and distance.  Speed is very touchy to your physical condition at the time.

One round doing just air swings I was hitting 105mph pretty easily, dont remember how the actual ball driving message went but the speed was availible.

Yeah I haven't quite seen gains with my distance with driver yet but I know a lot goes into it like you mentioned and that's not even getting into strike quality which I think is one of my major issues. 

[GolfSpy_BOS]

Just now, Dooby said:

Will do. I kind of thought it may be more of a mental thing but was curious if people were seeing enough discrepancy or differences to maybe suggest Stack Speed and Driver eSpeed data isn't very accurate or reliable.

For me it's certainly more if a "potential" speed than an absolute thing.  There has to be calculations involved considering we don't swing our actual driver during the training, but mine does not seem outrageous or unattainable.  

[skraeling]

5 minutes ago, GolfSpy BOS said:

For me it's certainly more if a "potential" speed than an absolute thing.  There has to be calculations involved considering we don't swing our actual driver during the training, but mine does not seem outrageous or unattainable.  

my espeed so far other than my ultimate max highest score (I think 107) it typically floats between 103-105.  Which is pretty realistic and I can hit that with my driver with no ball pretty repeatably on an air swing.

Edited May 13 by skraeling

[Dooby]

13 minutes ago, GolfSpy BOS said:

For me it's certainly more if a "potential" speed than an absolute thing.  There has to be calculations involved considering we don't swing our actual driver during the training, but mine does not seem outrageous or unattainable.  

Yeah I certainly don't expect every one of my swings to be the number that Stack spits out, especially considering the Max Effort swings are taken into account and I don't think I've ever done a max effort swing on course but I was mentally wrestling with knowing I'm swinging nearly 13 mph slower than my eSpeed suggests. I overall think it is mental after reading through some comments/responses here and also thinking through my rounds and my approach to my tee shots. I think I need to practice with intent on using my speed more to actually get comfortable on course with it rather than just expect it to happen/translate without focusing on it.

[ILMgolfnut]

27 minutes ago, skraeling said:

You will always swing slower with a ball especially so till you learn to release the kraken and let go and swing harder, the goal being that you raise your max far enough that your crusing speed is much faster than it used to be.

I'm starting to touch 90 on my Rypstick workouts but I'm not expecting to get that on the course. Yet. But maybe if I get the workouts to 95 then I can get 90 on the course. And I'm good with that. Regardless, my cruising speed is much better than it was two months ago.

[DaveP043]

14 minutes ago, Dooby said:

I think I need to practice with intent on using my speed more to actually get comfortable on course with it rather than just expect it to happen/translate without focusing on it.

I agree, when I'm doing a range session I specifically take a few swings with the driver at something close to Max effort.  One thing I think happens after a while is that your "cruising speed" gets a little closer to your Max speed, you get more accustomed to using more of your potential.

[GregGarner]

11 hours ago, Dooby said:

Anyone seem to have issues or major differences between the Stack's estimated driver swing speed versus what your on course driver swing speed is? Part of me thinks my issue is very mental as I seem to be quite a bit slower on course than I am when doing the protocol/practicing/etc.

I actually have the opposite happening, but I know it's not Stack-related. I've done enough air swings and ball swings to know that I tend to swing faster with a ball. So while my max effort 195g Stack speed equates to ~111-113 eSpeed, my actual driver swing speed no ball is 108-110 but with a ball is 113-115. (It's also worth noting that you should make sure your Stack app has the correct length of your driver shaft!)

[ShankSensei]

On 5/2/2024 at 4:39 PM, ShankSensei said:

Greetings from New UK user

Have been following this thread for a while and today took the plunge for TheStack.

Did have some used superspeed sticks but I found the lack of app and ''game'' aspect just led me to not using them. Did see they have had an app pinned since January but im fed up of waiting.

It's bank holiday over here this weekend so I intend to get out in the garden and give the system a go. Have a rapsodo mlm2pro which I will use to log the speed.

Looking forward to it  High Handicapper and I think at present my current driver swing speed is somewhere like 90-94. IF I can get triple digits id be ecstatic! Also intend to let my old man (70) use it, am I right in thinking he can have his own account and use the same serial? I'd love to see him gain some mph too, we both took up the sport just under a year ago now but its become a great way of spending more time together.

so the stack system arrived and so far I have done baseline and 3 foundation sessions

 

My baseline driver was 95, and the three sessions I have done I had 100 on speed (so although up from my baseline it’s been stuck on 100 for those 3 sessions) Looking forward to seeing if or how it develops as the next session (tomorrow) includes some max swings which will be the first time for me. Are these where you literally swing for the skies ??? Without thinking you’d actually be trying to hit a ball in theory.

What I will add, was before the stack system my driver was sort of consistently between 200/220 yards. Very very rarely over that.

Tonight down the range I’ve hit a 262 265 and 268, my longest ever! With every driver consistently being around or over 250

Almost worth it already for me! Excited about if I can start going further the more stick with the stack system program.

[Dooby]

On 5/13/2024 at 10:03 AM, Dooby said:

Anyone seem to have issues or major differences between the Stack's estimated driver swing speed versus what your on course driver swing speed is? Part of me thinks my issue is very mental as I seem to be quite a bit slower on course than I am when doing the protocol/practicing/etc.

As a bit of a minor update and as alluded to in my other comments with fellow users, I think it is safe to say I was/am having a mental block on course.  I went to the range the other night and brought my radar to check my speeds and I was not swinging as I freely do when doing the Stack or even compared to my irons/woods.  I began to immediately cruise at 105 or so instead of the 100 I have been on course which better aligns with my Stack Speed and I was able to push higher than that while hitting balls at the range when I tried so 113 max effort speed isn't out of possibility like I thought it was just a week ago. I also was getting better results than normal too.

[GregGarner]

Quick update - still training, but thinking it's about time to regrip. At first I thought it was just the humidity and the gallons of sweat pouring off of me while I'm training, but even after switching to rain gloves, I can feel the stick slipping on my max effort swings. Just in case you were wondering, yes, it is actually REALLY difficult to swing with maximum effort when you're afraid the thing is going to fly out of your hands... My 195g speeds have dropped from 99 (113 equivalent) to 92 (104 equivalent) yet my driver air swings are still north of 110, soooooooo

Now the real question... do I put the same grip as my other clubs or go for a full cord to try and maximize my grip life?

[Derek Lusk]

On 9/5/2023 at 12:25 AM, Derek Lusk said:

INTRODUCTION

Hello Spies!!  My name is Derek Lusk. I am in my late 40's and have been playing golf for 25 years. I live in Flagstaff Arizona about 3 hours north of Phoenix with an elevation 7000 feet.  I am a mechanic for the city of Flagstaff.  I grew up in Mesa AZ (Phoenix area) and in 2021 moved north to Flagstaff with my wife and two dogs.  My wife and I took 2022 off of work to travel.  We spent time exploring the United States as well as England and Scotland.  

Spending a few days at St. Andrews was amazing!!!  While I didn't play the course, we were able to walk around the grounds and from our room we had a perfect view of the 17th fairway.  We plan on returning to Scotland in 2025 to play some courses and hopefully at St. Andrews.  While researching how to get on at St. Andrews, I became aware that a handicap under 36 was required.  This made me become a more serious golfer and now have a handicap of 10.4.  Besides traveling during 2022, I played the most golf of my life.  It is amazing how much golf you can get in when not working.  Can't wait for retirement!!

I play at Elephant Rocks Golf Course in Williams Arizona, about a 30 minute drive from my house.  I am fortunate that my brother in law loves the game as much as I do and is able to be my full time golfing partner.  

I am so excited to be chosen for testing the Stack Training System.  I also heard about the system on the Chasing Scratch Podcast and immediately wanted to try it out. My brother in law who is also a spy,  and I have been looking into purchasing the Stack when I was chosen to be a tester.   

I last had my swing speed tested two years ago when I as fitted for my driver at a PKG store.  It was between 98 and 100 mph.  My goal with this system is to increase my swing speed and ultimately add 10 to 20 yards off the tee.  I plan on recording my swing speed at the beginning  of the testing process (I will create a chart that I will share in my weekly posts) with my swing speed at the end of the testing period.  I will know that this product is successful and will use it as part of my conditioning routine as I continue to progress towards my goals.  

My knowledge of the Stack Trainign System prior to being chosen as a tester is limited.  I have researched it online and on blogs and from what I learned on the Chasing Scratch Podcast.  I read that Matt Fitzpatrick increased their swing speed with the use of this product.

I can't wait to start!!!!! 

First Impression  (10 of 10)

The Stack and the PRGR both arrived securely packaged within a few days of each other.   In the first package was the swing stick with five weights.

 

 

 

The second package was the PRGR launch monitor.

The Stack makes it so simple to set up and get started. You get instructions on how to download the app to your apple device. After you get the app it is super easy to set up and get everything started. It takes under five mins.

Asthetics (19 of 20)

The Stack club is a stiff shaft with a very comfortable grip. It feels really similar to the grips I play with currently. The color combination is black and yellow and very appealing to the eye. I especially love the colors since I am a Pittsburgh Steelers fan and they have the same colors for their uniforms.  It held up really well for the testing. The on thing I am worried about is the weight keeper tip. You will find that while testing occasionally you will hit the ground with the tip. It never came loose or caused an issue with my testing. I have only completed one test and it is still holding up great.

The Numbers (20 of 20)

The number dont lie, it works. 

Here are some of my numbers.

 

My swing speed has increased over the course of this test. I have been able to play some rounds and have seen my driver distance improve dramatically. I was hitting the driver  consistently around 260yrds.  I have seen a difference in stroke gained and have played some of my best rounds since using the Stack.

Practice makes....(20 of 20)

The portability of The Stack makes it so easy to practice. You can use it anywhere.  At the range, in the backyard, in your driveway or in your garage anywhere you have room to swing. Each practice session the app has you use different weights and tracks you progress. After each session you are already thinking of the next session. It makes you want to practice. I did notice that during the first few sessions it could feel it in my lower back but after about 4 sessions I had loosened up and was feeling great. i use it  at the range to stretch and loosen up before each round I play.

The good, bad and inbetween.  (20 of 20)

What I have to say about the Stack is how good it is.  It is constructed very well, the app is so simple to use and the launch monitor works perfectly. It has helped me get more yardage from my driver and lower my scored. I would recommend this product to anyone who wanted to improve their swing speed.

Play it or Trade it.  (10 of 10)

I am going to start my second session neutral drive in the next few weeks. I say play it!! This session has 24  sessions and I am looking forward to them already.

Conclusion

This is my first review and I would like to thank MGS and the Stack for making it possible.  The Stack system will help you get faster. It is simple and easy to use. you only have one club and five small weights. The app will track  everything for you and takes the guess work out of the equation. This product will get you faster and make you come back for more.

Final Score (99 of100)

[HBaum]

On 9/5/2023 at 1:25 AM, DaveP043 said:

INTRODUCTION

Once again, I’m back with a review, one of the lucky few selected to review the Stack System, my thanks go to Stack for providing the equipment and guidance, and to the MGS folks for selecting me. I don't really have photos to go with this into, so to keep everyone interested I'll drop in a couple from my summer's trip to Scotland.  First is the Postage Stamp at Royal Troon

An introduction to me, I'm a 67-year old Geotechnical Engineer, living in the Washington DC suburbs. I’m easing into retirement, working only two days a week in the office, playing a bit more golf. I’m also becoming active as a Rules Official, volunteering with both the VSGA and the MAPGA.

I've been playing golf since I was a teenager, so I have something over 50 years of experience. I was largely a hacker, maybe a 15-handicap at best until I joined the club in the early 90s. Since then, with the help of a couple of lessons, a good bit of practice, and lots of play, I've become much better, currently a 7 handicap. I love to play and love even more to compete. Lucky for me, my wife is the same.

A quick equipment summary: I replaced my driver over the winter of 2018/2019. Through a fitting session at Mid South in Pinehurst, I ended up with a Callaway Rogue SubZero with Graphite Design YS-Six shaft. Irons are Titleist T200 (reviewed for MGS), with Mizuno wedges. Last Spring I added a Sub70 5-wood (see my review) and a Mizuno 7-wood. Putter is an old Ping G5i (with the blue inserts) B-60.

The lighthouse and 9th hole (to the right) at Turnberry

As I mentioned, I'm a single-digit handicap, current with a 5.6 index. I generally keep the ball in play, hit a fair number of greens. Long irons are decent, short irons are generally good, short game and putting have been pretty solid recently.

So why did I apply for this review? I'm getting older, as all of us do. And as many of us do, I've lost distance, especially over the past few years. When I got fitted for my driver my clubhead speed was in the high 90s, and I was carrying the ball between 230 and 240 yards. I've seen a significant loss of distance in my tee shots, 15 to 20 yards shorter. I wondered if equipment could help, so I attended fitting days with both Taylor Made and Callaway at my club, and found out that for $600 or so I could gain maybe 3 or 4 yards. My clubhead speed was in the low 90s at best. I want to regain that distance!

How will I evaluate the Stack System? The most obvious thing is to evaluate my play, will I increase distance? But there are a lot of pieces to this overall puzzle As part of this Review, we'll be provided with a PRGR launch monitor, so there will be a mini-review of it. There's build quality of the Stack System equipment, ease of use, difficulty of changing weights, etc. A hugely important part of this is the upload, analysis, and feedback from Stack, structuring each new session based on results from previous sessions. So how well does the interface work, clarity of instructions, etc. There will be numbers, swing speeds obtained through the PRGR, estimated carry distances, so speed gains will be quantified. But from the top of this paragraph, the most important measure will be on the courses, do I gain (or regain) distance?

And last, the view from Russacks Hotel in St Andrews

 

Now I'm back for the final review

First Impressions  (10 out of 10)
I included my first impressions in a separate post in this thread, here:
https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60697-stack-training-system-2023-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=973887
Making that long story short, I couldn't have been more impressed in my initial use of the Stack.  The PRGR works perfectly, right out of the box.  The Stack "hardware" is well made and solid.  The star of the show is the app, guiding me through warm ups, defining every session.  I was amazed at the level of detail, exact weights, videos about effort levels, rest times between swings, between sets of swings, between sessions.  

Aesthetics (18 out of 20) 

Here I am 3 months later, and everything still works perfectly.  I still use the app's warm-up video every time I Stack, I still enjoy the workouts and the occasional Personal Record, I'm just beginning my second program.  

One thing I wondered about was the threaded hard plastic keeper tip, whether it would hold up over hundreds of swings, including occasional collisions with the brick patio or garage floor.  And I now know, everything is still solid, the tip screws on snug and stable, I've never felt even the slightest wobble.  

Normally I keep everything near my back door, convenient for each session.  But I spent a couple weeks in Pinehurst over Thanksgiving, and the Stack went in my golf bag.  The PRGR and weight kit are small enough to fit in a small pocket, and the Stack stayed in next to my driver.  Handy!

The single feature I think could use improvement is the interface.  Not the way it works, but the device required.  The app runs only on Apple products.  I bought a used iPad, as I don't use any other Apple products.  I have a feeling that the requirement to use Apple may turn some potential users away, either for anti-Apple sentiments or for the additional cost.  If the app could be available on Android products, I think that opens up a larger market.

The Numbers (20 out of 20)

Simply put, I've gained speed.  The photo shows the results from my initial Baseline session, compared to the same set of swings for my Progress Check..  About 3 mph gain at every weight, and I'm seeing this on the course.  

The app suggests this should equate to about 10 yards of driving distance, and that's what I see.  Even on a chilly day in November, I hit over half my tee shots further han I had anytime in the season.

The distance increase is real, its not just a measurement while swinging in my back yard!

Unfortunately, my golf game as a whole isn't in a great spot.  My ballstriking with irons isn't consistent.  I don't attribute this to Stack, rather its lack of practice.  Or more precisely, I've used a lot of my available practice time with Stack, so my normal practice has been reduced.  

Practice makes…? (20 out of 20)

One of the best parts about the Stack system, and specifically about the app, I did enjoy the sessions.  The weight sets varied from one session to the next, it wasn't a standardized routine.  The app kept track of my speeds, and would applaud if I set a new personal record for either an individual swing or a set of swings.  As I noted above, I gained maybe 3 mph driver speed over 18 sessions, the speed wasn't ticking up every session.  But almost every session let me set a new record at one of the weights, which is really encouraging.

Another interesting "feel" was that trying to swing FAST seemed to reinforce good mechanics.  We can read about people trying to create lag, and there's no doubt that my fastest swings came along with a feeling of deep lag.  But it wasn't me thinking about lag, it occurred (apparently) because I was doing something else right.  My swing keys are generally lower body movement and proper swing plane, and when I get those right, I get the lag feeling, and fast speeds.
Another interesting feature is the availability of "special" sessions.  There's a specific session to use if you've had to lay off Stacking for a while, something to get you back up to full speed.  And there are two short sessions specifically designed to use before you play, to get yourself ready to go fast without the stress of a normal full session.
To sum it all up, at this stage I haven't found anything in the system I would suggest be changed.  Now as I move forward, I may encounter something I think isn't ideal, and I'll post about it.

The Good, the bad, the inbetween (20 out of 20)
This is a kind of miscellaneous section in the template we reviewers are asked to follow.  All I can do is reiterate, the Stack system is good, really good.  The hardware is well made, the PRGR launch monitor works exactly as it should, and the app is a delight to  use.  Most important, even at my advanced age (soon to be 68 years old), I'm regaining some of the distance I've lost over the last few years.  
Something that does concern me, not with Stack but with golf in general, is the potential for physical deterioration.  For a while now (years really) I've had some minor discomfort in my left (lead) shoulder.  Its not debilitating, and golf has never seemed to cause it.  Even the intense swings with the Stack don't cause any pain  I'll be seeing a doctor next week to have it checked out, but I have a feeling it going to be standard old-age stuff, arthritis or something.  Maybe I'll find out I'm wrong, maybe I'll have to cut back, I hope not.  

Play it or Trade it? (10 out of 10)
Just yesterday I did the first session of the Full Speed Spectrum series, 24 sessions planned.  That works out to 8-12 weeks, depending on whether I get in 2 or 3 session per week.  I'm playing it.  And unless I'm required to quit, I intend to  use it through the winter and all next year.

Conclusion
I've done a few reviews for MGS, and I don't think I've ever given such a high score.  The PRGR works great.  The Stack hardware is well made.  The Stack app is brilliant, well thought out, engaging, encouraging, detailed.  Most important of all, the program works.  I tested current drivers from TaylorMade and Callaway this spring, and found out the $500 (or more) could buy maybe 3 yards of distance.  The Stack/PRGR bundle costs about the same, and I've already gained triple that, and expect to continue those gains over the coming year(s).  

Final Score (98 out of 100)

Need to start using bands. It helps the lil muscles we don't think about.

[fourwaymiss]

On 7/20/2024 at 9:54 AM, GregGarner said:

Quick update - still training, but thinking it's about time to regrip. At first I thought it was just the humidity and the gallons of sweat pouring off of me while I'm training, but even after switching to rain gloves, I can feel the stick slipping on my max effort swings. Just in case you were wondering, yes, it is actually REALLY difficult to swing with maximum effort when you're afraid the thing is going to fly out of your hands... My 195g speeds have dropped from 99 (113 equivalent) to 92 (104 equivalent) yet my driver air swings are still north of 110, soooooooo

Now the real question... do I put the same grip as my other clubs or go for a full cord to try and maximize my grip life?

The factory grip seems to wear faster than a normal grip.

Since it's a training tool, I went with a normal Crossline (that style is my typical grip). I had considered putting my gamers on, but the guy at the shop advised against it, since the pressure I'm putting on it with the max effort swings is NOT normal and it would wear out the gamers faster.

So if you're normally a cord person, go for it! But I would worry about ripping my hands apart with full cord.

[GregGarner]

56 minutes ago, fourwaymiss said:

The factory grip seems to wear faster than a normal grip.

Since it's a training tool, I went with a normal Crossline (that style is my typical grip). I had considered putting my gamers on, but the guy at the shop advised against it, since the pressure I'm putting on it with the max effort swings is NOT normal and it would wear out the gamers faster.

So if you're normally a cord person, go for it! But I would worry about ripping my hands apart with full cord.

Totally makes sense; one of the main reasons why I've always played and preferred cords is for their moisture absorbency. As someone who grew up in Houston, Texas, both rain and sweat were pretty common... Every time I try to swing some kind of Tour Velvet-esque type grip, I'm afraid the club is going to fly out of my hands!

[fourwaymiss]

2 hours ago, GregGarner said:

Totally makes sense; one of the main reasons why I've always played and preferred cords is for their moisture absorbency. As someone who grew up in Houston, Texas, both rain and sweat were pretty common... Every time I try to swing some kind of Tour Velvet-esque type grip, I'm afraid the club is going to fly out of my hands!

I hear ya. I'm based in Singapore now, where it feels like July/August in Houston all year round. Since it's like this all year, I guess my body's acclimatized and my hands don't get as slick as they used to when I first arrived. 

 

Just go with whatever you feel most comfortable with for the Stack! You're gonna be swinging for the fences every time, so you gotta trust that grip.

[skraeling]

Ive taken a couple months off of training I was playing enough and doing a bunch of other really physical labor and just didnt have the gas left to train on top of that.

welp golf league has ended and we are starting to head towards our off season so will need to pick it back up.  I did lose speed towards the end of my league but thats probably just fatigue plus me sorting my damn swing out that went wonky.

probably will need to do at least 3-4 return to forms as I was almost towards the end of program 2 for me.

Edited September 4 by skraeling

[tdroma98]

@skraeling I too took a couple of months off, thought I hurt my left elbow, but it turns out the tendons connect to the hand & I've developed Dupuytren Contracture.  
I'm still using The Stack, with weights anywhere from 120 to 195 grams. The one thing I do every day are a lot of the stretching exercises.  I've incorporated 2-3 of the stretches prior to playing a round of golf and it's great.  Dr. MacKenzie developed some good stretches & exercises.  I've seen a slight increase in my swing speed since using The Stack and keeping limber. 

The Stack Putting is interesting. I like the 18 holes circuit training. It's better than just putting ball after ball.  The Stack gives you purpose.  Also, it's about making time to practice, that's been the challenge.  

@fourwaymiss great advice about the grip, thanks!!

[Derek9rx]

Sasho has a video in the faq explaining g how to transfer to speed to the course. Basically he says when you’re on the range tee up a ball, take a step back and swing with full or max effort then immediately step up to the ball and try to get that same feeling. 
Funny thing for me is during my max swing I’m still pretty balanced even if I try to not be, but put a ball in front of me and I’m falling all over the place. 

[Stuck in the Right Rough]

Has anyone put a grip trainer on their Stack? Would it help with the correct grip while swinging hard?

 

[skraeling]

3 hours ago, Stuck in the Right Rough said:

Has anyone put a grip trainer on their Stack? Would it help with the correct grip while swinging hard?

 

yeah its a pretty common complaint amongst users.  The stock grip will wear out pretty quick and most people replace it at some point (im not there yet).