Just_the_Chip Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Curious if you do all the time, or if it depends? I usually find a broken tee put it in the ground to just raise the ball just a bit above the tight grass, but I've seen a lot of people just drop it on the grass. Curious of the effect if any? sirchunksalot, William P, TJ Hall and 3 others 6 Quote "In fact , we both tend to hold the Midwestern stoic view that genuine problems are solved with action, not pissing and moaning. If you run around sharing your feelings too much, you'll eventually arrive at a place where you're not only still screwed up, but now everyone knows about it, too." - John Gierach - Sex, Death and Fly Fishing Link to comment
Siamese Moose Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 From a tee my irons launch higher with more spin. If I'm trying to carry and stop the ball, I'll tee it up. If the pin is back I may put it on the ground and play for some roll. As the irons get longer I'll always tee them up, as that's the weakest part of my game. David Leighton Reid, William P, sirchunksalot and 3 others 6 Quote Moose, my cat, is Siamese Link to comment
Guest-0 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Generally on a par 3 tee box I will use a broken tee and just put the cup flush with the ground so I don't have to dig as much but I use a strong lofted 4 iron on most par 4s and tee it about 1/4" above ground TJ Hall, Rob Person, nvizble1 and 6 others 9 Quote WITB Driver is PING G430 MAX 10K 9° W/VENTUS BLACK 44.5" TOUR VELVET GRIP 3 WOOD TAYLORMADE M2 15° W/ADDI BB TOUR VELVET GRIP IRONS PING G410 4 AND 5 IRON W/X100 IRONS 6-9 PING I200 W/X100 WEDGES TITLEIST VOKEY SM8 48° CHROME VOKEY 52° 56° AND 60 ALL IN CHROME FINISH WITH DYNAMIC GOLD AND MCC+4 GRIPS SCOTTY CAMERON TOUR RAT GSS 350G MATADOR GRIP SUN MOUNTAIN C-130 CART BAG NIKON LASER TITLEIST PRO V 1 Link to comment
Popular Post GolfSpy_APH Posted March 6 Popular Post Share Posted March 6 Out of pure laziness no. I normally just drop the ball, roll it to a spot I like and go. Same goes for my 3 wood as well. David Leighton Reid, TJ Hall, Rob Person and 8 others 10 1 Quote as of Nov 6, 2023 (Past WITB) Driver: Paradym TD w/ GD ADDI 6X Driver Shootout! Wood: F7 3 wood 14.5* w/ Motore F1 Shaft Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron T100 PW/GW Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,37,61 degree Putter: Mezz Max! Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Link to comment
Popular Post Girldad18 Posted March 6 Popular Post Share Posted March 6 I had a friend tell me one time it is the only place we are guaranteed to have a perfect lie so I now always use a tee, irons, 3-wood, whatever. Steve F, jbern, funkyjudge and 13 others 14 2 Quote Matt Dura Francis Marion University Hall of Fame 2018 TS4 9.5*, HZRDUS Smoke 60g Low spin driver; PRO V1X M3 17*HL turned down to 15*, Mitsubishi TENSEI CK Series 65 Stiff Ben Hogan 17* & 21* EDGE CFT Hybrids i200 blue dot, KBS Tour 120 S 4i-PW; Glide 58*/10 50* RTX 588; 54* CG10 APA Model 1 X1 Link to comment
Popular Post CB Lobo 4 Life Posted March 6 Popular Post Share Posted March 6 I happened upon an article about this once and interestingly they said that on average you generate more spin using a tee versus not. I do not recall the average spin rate extra but I remember it being maybe 500+? So with that in mind, I would say this, if you want a little more forgiveness and spin tee it up, on the other hand, if the wind is blowing and you need to fly the ball lower, hit off the turf. That is the general rule for me so do with the information as you see fit haha. jbern, Just_the_Chip, EMacK1961 and 9 others 12 Quote DRIVER - TSR3 9* Ventus TR Blue TX 70g, 3 WOOD - TSR3 15* Ventus TR Red TX 80g, 5 WOOD - TSR3 18* Ventus Blue VC TX 90g IRONS - ZX7 MKII (5, 6, & 7), Z Forged (8, 9, &PW) WEDGES - SM9 50* D Grind, 54* D Grind, & 60* M Grind PUTTER - Spider Tour 36", SuperStroke ZENERGY XL TOUR 3.0+ w/50g counterbalance weight BALL - Maxfli Tour X, TP5x, & Tour B X (Testing) Home Course: Snowflake Municipal Link to comment
Popular Post funkyjudge Posted March 6 Popular Post Share Posted March 6 I generally use a tee whenever I’m hitting an iron from the teeing ground. There are very few exceptions to this for me. My rationale for this is that if I am allowed to give myself a perfect lie, why not take it. I also use a tee with my hybrids, with the top of the tee just above the top of the turf (about 1/16” to 1/8”). William P, David Leighton Reid, VernL4 and 7 others 9 1 Quote DR - Callaway Paradym AI Smoke TD, Newton Motion 4-Dot 4W - Callaway Paradym 3HL, Newton Motion Fairway shaft, 4-Dot HYB - Paradym X 18*, HZRDUS Smoke Red 80S; Sub 70 949X 21*, same shaft 7W (if played) - Sub 70 849, ProForce Black 80-S Irons - Callaway Paradym, HZRDUS Silver Gen 4, S-flex Wedges - Edison 2.0, 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100 Putter - (currently in flux, but usually an Evnroll 8V Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023) Bags - Ghost Golf Maverick Black Ops Cart - MotoCaddy M7 Remote (without the remote) Spoiler driver / off the tee is no longer a weakness for me! Link to comment
Popular Post skraeling Posted March 6 Popular Post Share Posted March 6 100% everytime. I’m given the opportunity for a perfect lie. Why not take it? if it didn’t help we could tee up on fairways. VernL4, David Leighton Reid, funkyjudge and 8 others 10 1 Quote Stack Referral code Driver - Sim2Max 10.5° (set at 9*) UST Helium shaft 3W - StealthHL 16.5° 3h - Sim2max 19° irons - Sim2OS kbsmax85mt steel shafts reg flex 5i-Aw wedgies - Jaws MD5 52°-10° (Bounce) S Grind Jaws MD5 56°-12° (Bounce) W Grind Putter - Mizuno OMOI Type II VENTUS Velocore+ review Final Sugar "Pure" Golf Balls Review Link to comment
Popular Post Dallan33 Posted March 6 Popular Post Share Posted March 6 6 minutes ago, Girldad18 said: I had a friend tell me one time it is the only place we are guaranteed to have a perfect lie so I now always use a tee, irons, 3-wood, whatever. I had the same advice.... Roger Maltbie once said that if using a tee didn’t create an advantage, well, they’d let you use it everywhere. TJ Hall, Rob Person, sirchunksalot and 10 others 13 Quote Srixon ZX5 mk II 10.5 degree driver Cobra F Speed 15 degree 3W Titleist TSi Hybrid 18 degree Srixon ZX5 mk II irons (5-PW) Cleveland wedges (48,52,56,60) Ping Heppler Anser putter Link to comment
Wheelieb Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 It was always fun watching the videos with these guys before Matt left. But this is their video on tee vs no tee for iron shots off the tee box. Michael.Sandoval33, Javs, sirchunksalot and 5 others 7 1 Quote Callaway Paradym AI Smoke Max 9* with Tensei AV Blue 55 PXG 5 and 7 woods with Mitsubishi Diamana Shafts Mizuno Pro 225 5-GW with Dynamic Gold S300 shafts Taylormade Hi-Toe 54 and 58 degree wedges Ping Prime Tyne 4 Link to comment
TJ Hall Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Tee up everything except for a wedge from the tee…carry a broken tee around with me for 3 wood/hybrid/irons to tee up, it’s is just barely above grass level though. RockerFCC, Girldad18, William P and 3 others 6 Quote TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Driver TaylorMade Stealth 3 wood Titleist U510 Hybrid (3H) TaylorMade Tour Preferred CB Irons Vokey SM8 Wedges (52/56/60) Odyssey Ai-ONE 7S Putter Link to comment
Michael.Sandoval33 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I have never tee'd up for iron shots to this point. I "pride" myself (use this very loosely) on practicing the range without using the mats for assistance and purely connecting with the ball to emulate hitting off of the ground. However, tee shots are easily where I am the worst in play and it's not even close. Maybe I should tee up my irons William P, Rob Person, Dead Solid Bogey and 4 others 7 Quote WITB Driver: Qi10 Max Hybrid: FX Max 5h 5i-9i: FX Max 10 Wedges: 48°, 52°, 56° Putter: HB Soft 14 Ball: Link to comment
Jim Shaw Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Always... I remember reading a quote from Jack Nicklaus. it went sort of like this "any time you have a chance to get your hand on the golf ball, do it" I have never changed, although Jack played his best golf in a different era with different ground conditions, so there is that. VernL4, William P, Rob Person and 5 others 8 Quote committed to performance excellence Link to comment
jdischy Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Honestly I do not...I find that I hit my irons more pure off the ground than when tee'd up so I play that way. Rob Person and William P 2 Quote Link to comment
Shrek74 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Always. I don't necessarily have it higher than the top of the grass, but I always use a tee. The main reason to do it is to give me the absolute best possible "lie" for teeing the ball. If we can have our ball sitting level, stable, and square on the "ground," why wouldn't we. Michael.Sandoval33, VernL4, Rob Person and 4 others 7 Quote In My Sun Mountain C-130 'merica Cart Bag: Driver: BRNR Mini Driver, 11.5*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Blue RDX, 60g Fairway: 949x 3w, 15*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Red RDX, 70g Fairway: 949x 5w, 18*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Red RDX, 70g Hybrid: 939x 4H (21*), Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Black, 90g Irons: 101's, 5-PW, DG120 S300 Wedges: 286 @ 50*, JBFG @ 54* & 60*, DG120 S300 Putter: 002 Mid-Mallet @ 35", Super Stroke Pistol GT 2.0, Desert Camo Ball: Tour & Testing Vero X1 Technology: H4 w/ Tags, Pro L2 Rangefinder Link to comment
warrenator8 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I always try to. Like many have said, you can guarantee a good lie with a tee. I also tee it a little higher than most because I tend to have a very low ball flight. Great off the tee on Par 4's with an iron, not so great on a Par 3 though. VernL4, William P, sirchunksalot and 4 others 7 Quote Driver: Callaway Rogue ST Max D, 9.0 Degrees Fairway Wood: Adams Speedline, 15 Degrees Driving Iron: Mizuno MP-H5 2-Iron 18 Degrees Irons: Cobra LTDx, 5-GW Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM9 (50, 54 bent to 55, 60) Putter: LeanLock APA Model Blade/Yes Marilyn C-Groove Currently Reviewing: Byrdie Golf Design Past Reviews: Titleist White Box and Lean Lock Putter Link to comment
fredsharky Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 This is always a funny topic to me - I have friends that never tee it up with anything and telling me that they hit better without the tee. Which I consistently call BS, if you tee it up correctly it is the perfect lie and so what you are saying is that you hit a golf ball better from an imperfect lie than a perfect one and this is coming from 8 to 20 hdcp's. No one and I mean no one can hit it better than what they can off a perfect lie. I use this analogy with my buddies because of being hunters, you have a 200yd shot broadside, you want bipod or sandbag or do you want to free hand this shot. We are all pretty good shots at 200yds with a scope and freehand, but even better with bipod/sandbag. Always take the perfect lie, you can always push the tee down a bit further to take spin off or tee it up a bit higher to add some spin. Michael.Sandoval33, Rob Person, RockerFCC and 4 others 6 1 Quote Driver 1: Stealth 12 degree - Ventus Red 5-S Driver 2: 300 Mini Hzrdus Smoke Yellow 60G Stiff (tipped to 44.5inch) 3 Wood 2: Sim2 Max Fujikura Pro 65-S (higher ball flight) 5 Wood: Stealth Ventus Black 6-S 9 Wood: Stealth Ventus Red 5-R Irons: King Tour 2023 - Fujikura Pro 95 Stiff - 6-9 - Fitted Wedges: SM9 - 45-10F, 48-10F Wedges: RTX 6 - 52-Mid/10, 58-Mid/10 Putter: HB SOFT Milled 10.5S - Fitted Balls - X1 Link to comment
Rob Person Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) Tricky answer for me, because as I progress in my swing, I have to force myself to advance my thinking. 4-6 irons went out of the bag because no matter if I tee up or not, they are not going to do what I need them to do. Hybrids/woods and 7-9 irons, I will tee up just a little though. (Most times) occasionally the 9i will not get a tee, depending on the height above or below the tee to green Wedges never. I find my shots coming up 10 yards short of my distance playing off a tee for some reason. Edit to add, this may change in the future as I develop better skills. Edited March 6 by Rob Person Dead Solid Bogey, Michael.Sandoval33, RockerFCC and 4 others 7 Quote WITB-Foremost 551's - 3w, 5w, 5-SW (circa 1998), Top Flite 460cc Driver, Adam's 7w, Warrior GW and 60⁰, Odyssey AI-One DB putter. Just an old newbie golfer, trying to learn and improve 1 club at a time. Link to comment
BringerofRain Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Does anyone know what most pros do? This seems like a great test for MGS to do if they don’t already have the results. sirchunksalot, RockerFCC, Girldad18 and 3 others 6 Quote Everyone stinks, yes even the pros. Have fun Link to comment
fredsharky Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, Rob Person said: Tricky answer for me, because as I progress in my swing, I have to force myself to advance my thinking. 4-6 irons went out of the bag because no matter if I tee up or not, they are not going to do what I need them to do. Hybrids/woods and 7-9 irons, I will tee up just a little though. (Most times) occasionally the 9i will not get a tee, depending on the height above or below the tee to green Wedges never. I find my shots coming up 10 yards short of my distance playing off a tee for some reason. Disclaimer: I am not a golf god or nor did I sleep in a Holiday INN Express last night - so anything I say can be thrown out the window at anytime Rob on your wedge shots that are coming in 10yds short, you may have it teed up a bit too high. I have found with wedges that you want them as close to the ground as possible. Also another thing that plagues higher hdcp'ers is the swing from a tee'd up ball, a lot of the times they tee it too high and try and make the smae swing or tee it right and try to make a diff swing (more up than down) and this will in turn cause shorter shots. I would say go to the range and do nothing but hit you 58 or 60 off a tee for about 20 to 30 times and have the tee just even with the grass and make the same swing you would normally (make yourself do this), and you will probably find yourself making better contact and taking a better divot. Michael.Sandoval33, RockerFCC, William P and 2 others 4 1 Quote Driver 1: Stealth 12 degree - Ventus Red 5-S Driver 2: 300 Mini Hzrdus Smoke Yellow 60G Stiff (tipped to 44.5inch) 3 Wood 2: Sim2 Max Fujikura Pro 65-S (higher ball flight) 5 Wood: Stealth Ventus Black 6-S 9 Wood: Stealth Ventus Red 5-R Irons: King Tour 2023 - Fujikura Pro 95 Stiff - 6-9 - Fitted Wedges: SM9 - 45-10F, 48-10F Wedges: RTX 6 - 52-Mid/10, 58-Mid/10 Putter: HB SOFT Milled 10.5S - Fitted Balls - X1 Link to comment
hoppman Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I always tee up or down in this case from the tee box. The only club that I have a tall tee for is my driver, any other club I tee up is set just above the grass so that I don't get any grass between my clubface and ball. Some courses that have short par 3s from the tees I play really allow me to spin the ball from a tee. RockerFCC, William P and Rob Person 3 Quote Link to comment
RockerFCC Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, Michael.Sandoval33 said: I have never tee'd up for iron shots to this point. I "pride" myself (use this very loosely) on practicing the range without using the mats for assistance and purely connecting with the ball to emulate hitting off of the ground. However, tee shots are easily where I am the worst in play and it's not even close. Maybe I should tee up my irons I would surmise many people do not practice doing this on the range. I do sometimes forget but I usually try to hit at least a couple shots for each club with it teed up on the range. Interestingly, I have not done this at my simulator. Now I have to do this LOL. I have Real Turf so it's a great option there. Thanks for the epiphany (as I was typing no less) Rob Person, Michael.Sandoval33 and William P 2 1 Quote Just your "normal" obsessed golfer in search of more shots with names of flying critters... Link to comment
RockerFCC Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 8 minutes ago, BringerofRain said: Does anyone know what most pros do? This seems like a great test for MGS to do if they don’t already have the results. Most of the pros I see teeing it whenever they can. At tournaments I have gone too it seems like far more do than don't. Perfect lies are probably even better with their ridiculously perfect swings LOL. Rob Person, VernL4 and Michael.Sandoval33 3 Quote Just your "normal" obsessed golfer in search of more shots with names of flying critters... Link to comment
Pastor Chuck Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I cannot remember who said it (PGA Pro), but he said to never pass up an opportunity to use a tee. It provides a perfect lie! Girldad18, Steve F, Rob Person and 2 others 5 Quote TaylorMade Rocket Balz Tour 1,3 Ping Hybrid 4 Ping Irons 4-W Cleveland Wedges 50, 54, 58 TaylorMade Ghost Blade Putter Link to comment
chisag Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, CB Lobo 4 Life said: I happened upon an article about this once and interestingly they said that on average you generate more spin using a tee versus not. I do not recall the average spin rate extra but I remember it being maybe 500+? So with that in mind, I would say this, if you want a little more forgiveness and spin tee it up, on the other hand, if the wind is blowing and you need to fly the ball lower, hit off the turf. That is the general rule for me so do with the information as you see fit haha. ... If a robot were hitting the shots, I doubt we would see that kind of difference. Given the same swing and the same angle of descent, there should not be much, if any difference in spin. Just keep in mind, even off a tight lie the all is gone before the club touches the ground so you don't compress the ball off the ground, you simply have a steeper angle into the ball resulting in more spin. But golfers aren't robots and if you think you hit the ball better off the ground than using a tee, chances are you will. One difference and it is mental, players may feel like they don't need to get the club "under the ball" if its on a tee so they make a more level or even descending swing through impact but off the ground they feel they need to lift the ball more and tend to hit it a little low on the face. ... I do think like many things in golf, it is very player dependent and mostly that is a mental attitude about the shot. Personally I think everyone should tee the ball up even with wedges but as others have already said, tee it level with the ground. I think it would be a fun experiment for some to tee up every shot when they play. I think some may change their mind about using a tee once they were used to using a tee for every shot. Chips and pitches would be amazing as you would virtually eliminate fat shots. I often teed up pitches and chips for students that had a mental block of trying to lift the ball hitting fat and thin shots and suffering from a lack of confidence. The difference was usually night and day. Dead Solid Bogey, CB Lobo 4 Life, Michael.Sandoval33 and 5 others 8 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Diamana LTD 65r Irons: '23 T200 4-9i ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: '24 TP5x Link to comment
Erin B Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I tee it up every time on the tee box. Club depends on the height, but with all irons I tee it just high enough to get it off the ground. 1/8 of an inch usually. That goes for wedges as well. I don't tee my driver very high either. Maybe 1 3/4 inch. sirchunksalot, Michael.Sandoval33, Dead Solid Bogey and 3 others 6 Quote I could play golf every day and learn something new each time. Driver: Callaway Paradym TD 9* Driver- Steadfast S Jupiter 45” shaft Ping 425-6 Dot Newton tipped 45" shaft TaylorMade 11.5* Mini Driver-Steadfast S 45” shaft Hybrids: PXG 0317 17*, 19* Steadfast S Jupiter shafts, PXG 211 22*-Project X Even Flow Riptide X shafts Irons: New Level 6-PW 902PD 6.5 ProjectX IO shafts Wedges: TaylorMade MG4 50*, 52*, 56* (TW Grind) Putter: TaylorMade Truss Heal PXG Bat Attack Ping Anser Ball: OnCore VeroX Titleist Pro V1X Callaway Chrome TourX https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63746-motocaddy-m-series-carts-2024-forum-member-review/?do=findComment&comment=1042686 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63748-bridgestone-mindset-golf-ball-testing-sampling-and-shot-scope-ops/?do=findComment&comment=1046248 https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/62621-forum-member-reviews-callaway-whitebox-testing/?do=findComment&comment=1020558 Link to comment
DiverDown Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 yes every time. William P, Girldad18, sirchunksalot and 3 others 6 Quote SCUBA and Golf!! I love to golf during my surface intervals! Link to comment
shailey Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Depends. Winter Rye or Bermuda - Anything 8 iron and longer, I hit off a tee. Shorter shots, I club up with no tee and try to reduce spin. So I will hit a 3/4 PW instead of 9, etc.. Zoysia - No tee regardless of the distance on a par 3. We have two par 3s over 230 yards, so either a 4 iron or 4 hybrid. Sometimes more with the right wind. The ball sits up quite well on Zoysia and I will already hit it higher on the face and hit it higher. If I am in between clubs, I always go with the longer one. Rob Person, sirchunksalot, RockerFCC and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Qi10 LS 9⁰ w/Mitsubishi AV Blue Limited 65x 3 wood: Sim2 Titanium w/Aldila RIPX 75TX Hybrid: TSi2 21⁰ Hybrid w/Graphite Design Tour AD DI 95X Irons: Apex CB '24 4-PW w/DG 120 X100 Wedges: RTX6 Tour Rack Raw 50, 56 and 60 w/Dynamic Gold S400. Putter: Frontline Elite Elevado Custom Face Balanced Single Bend Ball: Tour B X https://www.daltongcc.org/ Link to comment
edistler222 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 I tee it up. VernL4, RockerFCC and William P 3 Quote Link to comment
BallsLeon Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Tee them all and let god sort them out RockerFCC, William P, Michael.Sandoval33 and 2 others 3 2 Quote Driver : Rogue ST Max LS, 10.5° loft, MCA TENSEI AV White 65g, Stiff flex (45") 3-Wood: Rogue ST LS, 15° loft, MCA TENSEI AV Blue 65g, Reg flex (42.25", tipped 0.5") 3-Utility: 699 Pro V2 Utility Satin, 18° loft, HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 80g, 6.0 flex Irons: T200 6i-GW, 27°-48° lofts, Nippon Modus3 120g, Stiff flex (+0.5”, 1° upright) Wedges: Indi FLX S-Grind, 52°/56°/60° lofts, Dynamic Gold Spinner 115g, Wedge flex Putter: King Vintage Sport 60, SteelFiber P125 shaft (34"), Quad Tour Taper grip Bag: Ultralight Pro, Ski Patrol/Black Push Cart: Nitron, Black/Red Rangefinder: Bushnell Tour V5 Shift 2023 MGS Forum Review: Sugar Golf Balls (Final Review Posted) 2023 MGS Forum Review: Sycamore 009 Mini Putter (Final Review Posted) 2024 Unofficial Review: The "Putting Thing" by WhyGolf -TJ Link to comment
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