OFFICIAL #CobraCONNECT CHALLENGE 2018

[GeekingGolf]

Congratulations GeekingGolf...I screwed my math up somewhere.

Thanks I got lucky that I checked the MGS app at the right time or I wouldn't have been the first to get it right. I had to check my math a couple of times too.

 

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[Nunfa0]

Yeah I never checked 😳😝

[GeekingGolf]

I think HardcoreLooper takes the win this week he already had good GIR this past week and he missed some fairways. If he gets that left miss under control he will push his GIR up I have faith in his ability to adjust this week. Good luck.

 

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[bardle]

My moneys on Joyzee, the rest of you boys should just take a week off and rest up for the next challenge...

 

Question wise, has anyone become more accurate with the F8's over their old sticks? Im especially interested in changes in accuracy with the lower lofted irons (4,5,6), and you guys that went one length might still be adjusting so I'm not necessarily asking you, but still feel free to chime in, especially if you've got them figured out by now. 

[russtopherb]

Reesedw had some solid GIR stats last week, my money's on him in this week's challenge! 

 

Are you guys finding having the instant stats a help, a hindrance, or neither? Do you look at the stats after the round and say "ok I can do better here and here", or do you look at them and obsess over what went wrong in the round even more than you normally do?

[fozcycle]

My moneys on Joyzee, the rest of you boys should just take a week off and rest up for the next challenge...

 

Question wise, has anyone become more accurate with the F8's over their old sticks? Im especially interested in changes in accuracy with the lower lofted irons (4,5,6), and you guys that went one length might still be adjusting so I'm not necessarily asking you, but still feel free to chime in, especially if you've got them figured out by now.

I can't really say because I opted to go the 5 Hybrid option rather than the 4 & 5 iron. My thought was a lot of my buddies have dropped the 4 & 5 irons for hybrids, so I thought this is a good time to try.

 

I'll try to post some comparisons as I did have 4 & 5 irons in my Cobra F6's used as my baseline.

 

 

#CobraCONNECT using the new F8's from Cobra

 

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[bardle]

I can't really say because I opted to go the 5 Hybrid option rather the 4 & 5 iron. My thought was a lot of my buddies have dropped the 4 & 5 irons for hybrids, so I thought this is a good time to try.

 

I'll try to post some comparisons as I did gave 4 & 5 irons in my Cobra F6's used as my baseline.

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#CobraCONNECT using the new F8's from Cobra

 

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Yes please post those thoughts, I would definitely like to hear how the switch to the hybrid is going, I think others would appreciate it too. 

[Rickp]

I can't really say because I opted to go the 5 Hybrid option rather the 4 & 5 iron. My thought was a lot of my buddies have dropped the 4 & 5 irons for hybrids, so I thought this is a good time to try.

 

I'll try to post some comparisons as I did gave 4 & 5 irons in my Cobra F6's used as my baseline.

file-38C0B559-721B-45A2-90FA-AF15166313E8-15629-00000A9E116DF386.jpg

 

 

#CobraCONNECT using the new F8's from Cobra

 

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I'm interested in your results on this also. In carrying a 4&5 iron and 4&5 hybrid. I can't get the trust in the hybrid that I have in irons although I've been hitting the hybrid better lately.

 

 

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[Reesedw]

Reesedw had some solid GIR stats last week, my money's on him in this week's challenge! 

 

Are you guys finding having the instant stats a help, a hindrance, or neither? Do you look at the stats after the round and say "ok I can do better here and here", or do you look at them and obsess over what went wrong in the round even more than you normally do?

I am Still getting used to using the Arccos app mid round.  for me the biggest leap is looking at the app.. I am so used to getting my yardages and playing that i forget to look at the caddie... i do get the yardages and they have been spot on.. I did use it yesterday and it was money.. I just have to trust it which is hard to do.. 

[bardle]

I am Still getting used to using the Arccos app mid round. for me the biggest leap is looking at the app.. I am so used to getting my yardages and playing that i forget to look at the caddie... i do get the yardages and they have been spot on.. I did use it yesterday and it was money.. I just have to trust it which is hard to do..

Does arccos keep track of a stat for when you listen to it's recommendation and vice versa and how it turned out? I think we might see some interesting metrics if so..

 

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[Reesedw]

Does arccos keep track of a stat for when you listen to it's recommendation and vice versa and how it turned out? I think we might see some interesting metrics if so..

 

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I am not sure.. I have not seen it.. 

[STUDque]

Does arccos keep track of a stat for when you listen to it's recommendation and vice versa and how it turned out? I think we might see some interesting metrics if so..

 

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I'll take that question. I've been slowly tooling around with Arccos lately and recently sent them a bunch of recommendations for improvements. This was one of them.

 

They said it's part of a planned future update so I'm hoping we'll have something before the challenge is over. If not, we have a pretty good chance of that hitting the official Arccos 360 test in stride.

 

 

Gotta give it to them, they're supporting the crap out of their product. I love seeing that in companies. Maybe this goes back to my baseball days but I tend to evaluate things based more on future potential than current value. I'm liking what I'm seeing from Arccos.

[Reesedw]

Are you guys ready to see how My game has progressed since I started using the Cobra F8's.... Numbers Do not lie..

Do not forget that i am still using MY old putter... 

 

These are my numbers from when I got my Arccos for my old clubs til I put the Cobras in play.... 

 

And these are the numbers for my Cobra F8 clubs..... 

 

 

 

How about some Cobra Love..... 

[bardle]

I'll take that question. I've been slowly tooling around with Arccos lately and recently sent them a bunch of recommendations for improvements. This was one of them.

 

They said it's part of a planned future update so I'm hoping we'll have something before the challenge is over. If not, we have a pretty good chance of that hitting the official Arccos 360 test in stride.

 

 

Gotta give it to them, they're supporting the crap out of their product. I love seeing that in companies. Maybe this goes back to my baseball days but I tend to evaluate things based more on future potential than current value. I'm liking what I'm seeing from Arccos.

Yeah. If nothing else it will show how useful the system is. Of course filtering out shanks and chunks would need to be part of it. But given how they are marketing the caddie feature, this stat feels like a no brainer. I'm surprised they didn't start with it.

 

Would you mind sharing the other ideas you submitted? I'm curious.

 

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[MaxEntropy]

Are you guys ready to see how My game has progressed since I started using the Cobra F8's.... Numbers Do not lie..

Do not forget that i am still using MY old putter...

 

These are my numbers from when I got my Arccos for my old clubs til I put the Cobras in play....

Pre Cobra baseline..PNG

 

And these are the numbers for my Cobra F8 clubs.....

Cobra after 1 month.PNG

 

 

 

How about some Cobra Love.....

That's damn impressive. What do you think is driving it? Clubs? More practice/play time? Better focus as part of the challenge? Since I am in a similar range of handicap, I know I need more/better practice time, but also have a strong suspicion my equipment is holding me back some too.

 

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[Reesedw]

I was not playing really old equipment prior to the Cobras. Ping G30 LST driver, Wilson D300 irons.. I think honestly some of it is the clubs, and some focus..

 

I am driving the ball better then I ever have, (Ping G30 and Taylor made R9 Supertri before that.) I had 3 holes yesterday that I went 270 to drive the green, 290 to within 5 yds of the green, and 261 to the corner of a dogleg par 5.. IN prior rounds I have had drives of 269 and 301 with the F8+.. yes I have had long drives before, but not this consistently long or straight.. I absolutely love the driver, 3wd and hybrids.. 

 

 

The irons are getting the ball to stop on short irons like nothing Ive played before and distance out of mid to long irons is fantastic. The irons have a great feel when hit..   Prior irons were the Wilson D300, and Ping G25's.. 

 

When I say focus, I mean i am taking a little extra time to stay within myself, and make a good swing, as ALL the stats counts at some point this season for the challenge.. 

 

SO yeah i think alot of it is the clubs, they are so much fun to play with.. are they the end all be all for everyone? probably not but they are definately worth a look.. Chisag did great write-ups on I think driver, woods and Maybe the Hybrids, go give them a read. What he wrote was spot on.. 

[goaliewales14]

Sorry for just now jumping into this thread, but I was able to catch up on all the posts to ask a few questions of my own.  Great job so far with everything guys!!  Hope you're ready for the list!!

 

• How do the set wedges compare to normal wedges?  Are you able to get the same type of spin and performance?
  • Sorry I love wedge testing, so I'm always curious!
• Has anyone made any adjustments to their clubs either to complete the challenge, or just to get better performance?  If you adjusted loft on the woods, how quickly did it change your averages?

 

• How do you feel about the grips?  Do you want more options in grip selections?

 

• Do you feel that you could perform better with your old clubs for these challenges?

 

• Are you playing any new courses during this, or are you sticking to the ones you know?  I know Joyzee played a few new ones.

 

• Are any of you going through coaching or swing changes right now?

 

• Were any of the courses you went to play not loaded into Arccos?

 

• Is there a challenge that you really want to see?

[Reesedw]

 

 

 

Boom.. 

 

 

here is a 6 iron over a corner to the middle of the fairway, I've always had trouble with middle to long irons being hit consistently.. I stepped up and crushed this one... then I promptly crapped the bed with a hybrid.. But What a 6 iron shot... LOL

[HardcoreLooper]

Question wise, has anyone become more accurate with the F8's over their old sticks? Im especially interested in changes in accuracy with the lower lofted irons (4,5,6), and you guys that went one length might still be adjusting so I'm not necessarily asking you, but still feel free to chime in, especially if you've got them figured out by now.

Take a look at my 180-230 yard approach stats with my old clubs:

 

 

And with the F8s:

 

 

 

Are you guys finding having the instant stats a help, a hindrance, or neither? Do you look at the stats after the round and say "ok I can do better here and here", or do you look at them and obsess over what went wrong in the round even more than you normally do?

I don't practice much, but this does help me focus what little practicing I do.

 

Yes please post those thoughts, I would definitely like to hear how the switch to the hybrid is going, I think others would appreciate it too.

At the current time, I don't care for the three hybrid. It sets up closed to me, and I feel like I need to manipulate the club to keep from hooking it off the planet. I need to give it some range time. I do like the idea of the rails. I played a wooden Baffler four wood back in high school.

 

I'll take that question. I've been slowly tooling around with Arccos lately and recently sent them a bunch of recommendations for improvements. This was one of them.

 

They said it's part of a planned future update so I'm hoping we'll have something before the challenge is over. If not, we have a pretty good chance of that hitting the official Arccos 360 test in stride.

 

Gotta give it to them, they're supporting the crap out of their product. I love seeing that in companies. Maybe this goes back to my baseball days but I tend to evaluate things based more on future potential than current value. I'm liking what I'm seeing from Arccos.

I don't follow the caddie suggestions all that often. It seems that any time I do look at it, there's enough elevation change to make me want to go up or down a club. I keep Arccos in Tournament Mode, so it doesn't factor in elevation changes. But it's nice to know that you're in the ballpark.

 

Yeah. If nothing else it will show how useful the system is. Of course filtering out shanks and chunks would need to be part of it. But given how they are marketing the caddie feature, this stat feels like a no brainer. I'm surprised they didn't start with it.

 

Would you mind sharing the other ideas you submitted? I'm curious.

Can't speak for Stud, but my suggestions are:

 

- Let users mark recovery shots as recovery shots, instead of just relying upon AI to figure out when you're in the trees.

 

- Let users download their data.

 

- Practice mode to generate data quickly.

 

Sorry for just now jumping into this thread, but I was able to catch up on all the posts to ask a few questions of my own.  Great job so far with everything guys!!  Hope you're ready for the list!!

• How do the set wedges compare to normal wedges?  Are you able to get the same type of spin and performance?
  • Sorry I love wedge testing, so I'm always curious!
• Has anyone made any adjustments to their clubs either to complete the challenge, or just to get better performance?  If you adjusted loft on the woods, how quickly did it change your averages?

• How do you feel about the grips?  Do you want more options in grip selections?

• Do you feel that you could perform better with your old clubs for these challenges?

• Are you playing any new courses during this, or are you sticking to the ones you know?  I know Joyzee played a few new ones.

• Are any of you going through coaching or swing changes right now?

• Were any of the courses you went to play not loaded into Arccos?

• Is there a challenge that you really want to see?

I love the wedges. They're definitely not your typical set wedges. They look great, and they play really nicely. If anything, these wedges spin better than my old ones. These are real wedge grooves.

 

I've been playing with the driver setup constantly. I've been losing it to the right, whereas I hook every other club in the bag. So right now I have the heavier weight in the draw position, which seems weird to me. Stay tuned for results.

 

I like the grips, but I was in the process of putting Lamkin RELs on all my old clubs anyway.

 

On the whole, I would not be playing better with my old clubs. I was knocking off quite a bit of rust when I received the Arccos sensors for my old clubs, so this is a bit of a tough comparison, but I'm playing better with the F8s.

 

Mizuno:

 

Cobra:

 

Considering that I'm fighting with the driver and the hybrid, I've gotten this much better with 12 clubs in my bag right now. It's no contest.

 

I had every intention of playing a couple of new courses last week, but both opportunities fell through. I'm still open to it if I get a chance.

 

No real swing changes but I'm fighting my annual battle against taking the club too far inside right now. Happens every year.

 

All of the courses I've played so far have been loaded into Arccos.

 

I'll let Stud and Rob come up with the challenges. They're going to work out every part of our games.

[tommc23]

I love the data you guys are getting with this.

 

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[STUDque]

Would you mind sharing the other ideas you submitted? I'm curious.

Sure no problem. Here's the rest of my suggestions. In their response, they said all of these recommendations were in work for future updates because they align with the #1 goal of making the system more useful/intuitive to the users. I didn't mention the practice mode because they had already acknowledged that as a future upgrade as well:

 

___________________________________________________

 

1) Positional Shots/Positional Handicap

Laying up or punching out is a skill. In some cases, it's extremely difficult to get the ball back in play and this "recoverability" could provide a nice insight into a player's total ability. Users can tag the shots and let algorithms take over. An obvious benefit is better fidelity in smart distance but it'll also help place blame where it's due for missing the green. Driving, not approach, should be affected in these instances.

 

2) Approach shot flag tag

Currently, Arccos assumes the pin is in the center of the green until you've putted to give it a best guess. Another app I use allows you to set custom points in your GPS overview. If Arccos allowed you to move the default mark, it could be an easy way to get an early approximation of pin location. In addition to saving time on post-round edits, it'll allow Arccos Caddie to recommend clubs in the short game based on a better guess at the distance plus figuring how much green there is to work with.

 

3) Hole/course history

It would be useful if you could look at your history for certain courses or holes. Average scores for laying up/going for it would be very helpful. It would also be nice to have insight into which holes you struggle with and which trouble on the course you find often. This insight could really help with course management strategy.

 

4) Listen to your Caddie!

Would love to see data related to Caddie suggestions. After it recommends a club, it would be nice to know if you made a good decision choosing something else or if the Caddie would've been right all along. This information would certainly help you guys in development as well.

 

5) Hole view resolution

I'm not sure what can be done about this, but the hole overviews through GPS are extremely fuzzy. When I zoom in, I have a difficult time making out certain features so I'm making wild guesses at pin location. Other apps have much clearer pictures so I'm sure it's possible to get better imagery.

 

6) Midsize Smart Grips

How about a little love for us guys with big hands?

[bardle]

Take a look at my 180-230 yard approach stats with my old clubs:

 

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And with the F8s:

 

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I don't practice much, but this does help me focus what little practicing I do.

 

 

At the current time, I don't care for the three hybrid. It sets up closed to me, and I feel like I need to manipulate the club to keep from hooking it off the planet. I need to give it some range time. I do like the idea of the rails. I played a wooden Baffler four wood back in high school.

 

 

I don't follow the caddie suggestions all that often. It seems that any time I do look at it, there's enough elevation change to make me want to go up or down a club. I keep Arccos in Tournament Mode, so it doesn't factor in elevation changes. But it's nice to know that you're in the ballpark.

 

 

Can't speak for Stud, but my suggestions are:

 

- Let users mark recovery shots as recovery shots, instead of just relying upon AI to figure out when you're in the trees.

 

- Let users download their data.

 

- Practice mode to generate data quickly.

 

 

I love the wedges. They're definitely not your typical set wedges. They look great, and they play really nicely. If anything, these wedges spin better than my old ones. These are real wedge grooves.

 

I've been playing with the driver setup constantly. I've been losing it to the right, whereas I hook every other club in the bag. So right now I have the heavier weight in the draw position, which seems weird to me. Stay tuned for results.

 

I like the grips, but I was in the process of putting Lamkin RELs on all my old clubs anyway.

 

On the whole, I would not be playing better with my old clubs. I was knocking off quite a bit of rust when I received the Arccos sensors for my old clubs, so this is a bit of a tough comparison, but I'm playing better with the F8s.

 

Mizuno:

Screen Shot 2018-07-23 at 11.56.10 PM.png

 

Cobra:

Screen Shot 2018-07-23 at 11.56.52 PM.png

 

Considering that I'm fighting with the driver and the hybrid, I've gotten this much better with 12 clubs in my bag right now. It's no contest.

 

I had every intention of playing a couple of new courses last week, but both opportunities fell through. I'm still open to it if I get a chance.

 

No real swing changes but I'm fighting my annual battle against taking the club too far inside right now. Happens every year.

 

All of the courses I've played so far have been loaded into Arccos.

 

I'll let Stud and Rob come up with the challenges. They're going to work out every part of our games.

 

Those are incredible numbers, whats even more impressive than doubling your GIR % from that distance is how much more on line you are, almost all of your misses are short a few yards but dead on. Crazy. I really love seeing this kind of data, I'm sure you don't mind seeing those stats either!

 

Sure no problem. Here's the rest of my suggestions. In their response, they said all of these recommendations were in work for future updates because they align with the #1 goal of making the system more useful/intuitive to the users. I didn't mention the practice mode because they had already acknowledged that as a future upgrade as well:

 

___________________________________________________

 

1) Positional Shots/Positional Handicap

Laying up or punching out is a skill. In some cases, it's extremely difficult to get the ball back in play and this "recoverability" could provide a nice insight into a player's total ability. Users can tag the shots and let algorithms take over. An obvious benefit is better fidelity in smart distance but it'll also help place blame where it's due for missing the green. Driving, not approach, should be affected in these instances.

 

2) Approach shot flag tag

Currently, Arccos assumes the pin is in the center of the green until you've putted to give it a best guess. Another app I use allows you to set custom points in your GPS overview. If Arccos allowed you to move the default mark, it could be an easy way to get an early approximation of pin location. In addition to saving time on post-round edits, it'll allow Arccos Caddie to recommend clubs in the short game based on a better guess at the distance plus figuring how much green there is to work with.

 

3) Hole/course history

It would be useful if you could look at your history for certain courses or holes. Average scores for laying up/going for it would be very helpful. It would also be nice to have insight into which holes you struggle with and which trouble on the course you find often. This insight could really help with course management strategy.

 

4) Listen to your Caddie!

Would love to see data related to Caddie suggestions. After it recommends a club, it would be nice to know if you made a good decision choosing something else or if the Caddie would've been right all along. This information would certainly help you guys in development as well.

 

5) Hole view resolution

I'm not sure what can be done about this, but the hole overviews through GPS are extremely fuzzy. When I zoom in, I have a difficult time making out certain features so I'm making wild guesses at pin location. Other apps have much clearer pictures so I'm sure it's possible to get better imagery.

 

6) Midsize Smart Grips

How about a little love for us guys with big hands?

 

So I thought you could mark a shot as a positional shot? are there just no stats around how well you did with it? Hole / Course History would be a cool feature as well, these are well thought out. If these features get pushed live, its gonna be really difficult not to purchase arccos.

[GeekingGolf]

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Boom..

 

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here is a 6 iron over a corner to the middle of the fairway, I've always had trouble with middle to long irons being hit consistently.. I stepped up and crushed this one... then I promptly crapped the bed with a hybrid.. But What a 6 iron shot... LOL

A 225 yard 6 iron dang that must be nice I dont think i have a club that goes 225 maybe my 2 hybrid wow the only think that has steered me away from game improvement irons is the lack of distance consistency because i have often read that while they are more forgiving there is a greater dispersion from well struck shot to off center shot. Are any of you seeing that at all? For me i hit my 6 iron 173 give or take a couple of yards I would hate to flush a 6 iron and it sail over the green.

 

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[GeekingGolf]

Sure no problem. Here's the rest of my suggestions. In their response, they said all of these recommendations were in work for future updates because they align with the #1 goal of making the system more useful/intuitive to the users. I didn't mention the practice mode because they had already acknowledged that as a future upgrade as well:

 

___________________________________________________

 

1) Positional Shots/Positional Handicap

Laying up or punching out is a skill. In some cases, it's extremely difficult to get the ball back in play and this "recoverability" could provide a nice insight into a player's total ability. Users can tag the shots and let algorithms take over. An obvious benefit is better fidelity in smart distance but it'll also help place blame where it's due for missing the green. Driving, not approach, should be affected in these instances.

 

2) Approach shot flag tag

Currently, Arccos assumes the pin is in the center of the green until you've putted to give it a best guess. Another app I use allows you to set custom points in your GPS overview. If Arccos allowed you to move the default mark, it could be an easy way to get an early approximation of pin location. In addition to saving time on post-round edits, it'll allow Arccos Caddie to recommend clubs in the short game based on a better guess at the distance plus figuring how much green there is to work with.

 

3) Hole/course history

It would be useful if you could look at your history for certain courses or holes. Average scores for laying up/going for it would be very helpful. It would also be nice to have insight into which holes you struggle with and which trouble on the course you find often. This insight could really help with course management strategy.

 

4) Listen to your Caddie!

Would love to see data related to Caddie suggestions. After it recommends a club, it would be nice to know if you made a good decision choosing something else or if the Caddie would've been right all along. This information would certainly help you guys in development as well.

 

5) Hole view resolution

I'm not sure what can be done about this, but the hole overviews through GPS are extremely fuzzy. When I zoom in, I have a difficult time making out certain features so I'm making wild guesses at pin location. Other apps have much clearer pictures so I'm sure it's possible to get better imagery.

 

6) Midsize Smart Grips

How about a little love for us guys with big hands?

Those are all great suggestions and I never thought about recoverability being a skill but you are right that is definitely a skill.

 

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[goaliewales14]

A 225 yard 6 iron dang that must be nice I dont think i have a club that goes 225 maybe my 2 hybrid wow the only think that has steered me away from game improvement irons is the lack of distance consistency because i have often read that while they are more forgiving there is a greater dispersion from well struck shot to off center shot. Are any of you seeing that at all? For me i hit my 6 iron 173 give or take a couple of yards I would hate to flush a 6 iron and it sail over the green.

 

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I was thinking the exact same thing!  My 2 hybrid is what I would have to use for 225.

[HardcoreLooper]

A 225 yard 6 iron dang that must be nice I dont think i have a club that goes 225 maybe my 2 hybrid wow the only think that has steered me away from game improvement irons is the lack of distance consistency because i have often read that while they are more forgiving there is a greater dispersion from well struck shot to off center shot. Are any of you seeing that at all? For me i hit my 6 iron 173 give or take a couple of yards I would hate to flush a 6 iron and it sail over the green.

I'm not seeing much distance loss on off-center shots. It's much better than with my old Mizunos. My big fear was the crazy-long one when you flush it, and I really haven't seen that yet. My big problem is trusting the new distances. 200 yards is an awfully long six iron, but it's a power bat (like the four and five irons). So I take the numbers on the bottom of the clubs with a grain of salt. 200 used to be a hybrid for me.

 

The other night, I had 195 to a back pin, and I just couldn't bring myself to hit a seven. So I hit the six, I hit it 200 yards, and it caught the downslope behind the green and took off. Again, I should have known that long is dead, hit the seven, and dealt with a potentially long putt.

[bardle]

I'm not seeing much distance loss on off-center shots. It's much better than with my old Mizunos. My big fear was the crazy-long one when you flush it, and I really haven't seen that yet. My big problem is trusting the new distances. 200 yards is an awfully long six iron, but it's a power bat (like the four and five irons). So I take the numbers on the bottom of the clubs with a grain of salt. 200 used to be a hybrid for me.

 

The other night, I had 195 to a back pin, and I just couldn't bring myself to hit a seven. So I hit the six, I hit it 200 yards, and it caught the downslope behind the green and took off. Again, I should have known that long is dead, hit the seven, and dealt with a potentially long putt.

 

That sure is a long way. Your distance for your old 6 iron was showing 185 from the intro, but thats the same as your 5 iron...Soo does that mean these clubs have given you around a 15-20 yard distance gain? Thats almost scary if true...

[HardcoreLooper]

That sure is a long way. Your distance for your old 6 iron was showing 185 from the intro, but thats the same as your 5 iron...Soo does that mean these clubs have given you around a 15-20 yard distance gain? Thats almost scary if true...

At the top of the bag, it's about a 15 yard gain. Closer to 10 as the clubs get shorter.

 

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[GeekingGolf]

I'm not seeing much distance loss on off-center shots. It's much better than with my old Mizunos. My big fear was the crazy-long one when you flush it, and I really haven't seen that yet. My big problem is trusting the new distances. 200 yards is an awfully long six iron, but it's a power bat (like the four and five irons). So I take the numbers on the bottom of the clubs with a grain of salt. 200 used to be a hybrid for me.

 

The other night, I had 195 to a back pin, and I just couldn't bring myself to hit a seven. So I hit the six, I hit it 200 yards, and it caught the downslope behind the green and took off. Again, I should have known that long is dead, hit the seven, and dealt with a potentially long putt.

How did you get the yardage did you go to the range or launch monitor to get them down or are you still figuring it out. With the new gains in distance are you seeing problems at the bottom end of your set with gapping?

 

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[bardle]

At the top of the bag, it's about a 15 yard gain. Closer to 10 as the clubs get shorter.

 

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Holy Bankruptcy Batman I need a new set of F8's like yesterday.