Mizuno JPX 923

[bens197]

3 minutes ago, yungkory said:

Can't wait to get my 223's!!!

You're going to love them...what setup did you pick?

[dlow206]

the announcement date is 9/23 or the release date is 9/23?

[bens197]

5 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

the announcement date is 9/23 or the release date is 9/23?

Jamie's post said release...9/23 isn't toooo far away...

[Golfspy_CG2]

3 hours ago, yungkory said:

Can't wait to get my 223's!!!

I was thinking about  you the other day.  Hard to believe it was what 3 releases ago we did the JPX forum testing. 
 

Man time flies. 

[SagedCrusader]

It figures that I got fitted for 921 hot metals on Friday with the intent on buying in the next couple months.  I guess I'll have to go back and hit the 923s when my fitter gets the fit card.  anyone have any idea what the 923 price might look like?

[MattF]

8 hours ago, SagedCrusader said:

anyone have any idea what the 923 price might look like?

Around the same as the 921's, so around $1,000 or so for the HM or HMP's. Forged and tour will be a bit more but they won't be out until next year.

[tdroma98]

On 8/15/2022 at 10:16 AM, Tiftaaft said:

Understanding this is very preliminary and not verified by me... but ran across this pic "on the web".... I am extremely interested in what a potential '23 version of the 921 series will look like - and what improvements will be touted over the prior version... this could be a sneak peek of what is to come?

 

Tift, you finding the T200 irons to be hot and forgiving?   

What shafts do you have in the T200 irons? 

[GolfSpy TCB]

1 minute ago, tdroma98 said:

Tift, you finding the T200 irons to be hot and forgiving?   

What shafts do you have in the T200 irons? 

Hey TD, I originally was fitted into the Mitsubishi Tensei Blue graphite shafts for my T200's, and I never clicked with them as an iron shaft.  I was lucky enough to be selected as a forum tester for the Nippon Modus3 Tour 115 shafts and installed them into the T200's.  It completely changed the feel of my irons for the better.  I still have those shafts in my T200's. More details on those shafts by clicking the testing link in my signature if you are interested.  As far as Hot and Forgiving... I wouldn't call them as much "hot" as "consistent".  They are stronger lofted than my traditional blades, so in relative terms.. they are longer, and do a great job with launch angle (certainly higher flighted than my blades) - even though the Tour 115 shafts do tend to flight my shots a bit lower (but not complaining... it is a great flight profile for me).  Forgiving... yes.  My miss is toward the toe when I'm not swinging well... and sometimes thin.  These T200's do a good job "saving" my mis-hits into something manageable. 

[GolfSpy TCB]

Because I was curious after my previous post on loft comparisons, I built this quick table based on some "unofficial" information I gleaned from the web - just as a reference.  I also threw in the TM Stealth as a comparison as it is one of the stronger lofted offerings.

Just some interesting notes from my quick review:

• The T200's are very similar in loft profile to the JPX923 HMHL.  Where the HM and HMP are of course stronger lofted.  The 923F is similar enough in loft to the the T200's that I could draw some good performance comparisons by testing those against my current set.
• The JPX923 Tour's are lofted exactly the same as the Pro 221 Blades which makes sense... I will be extremely interested to see the JPX tech at those lofts.  

The JPX923's I'm really looking forward to trying out are the HMP and the Tours.  But that is going to be the difference of the next month or two... and sometime next year

[SagedCrusader]

1 hour ago, Tiftaaft said:

Because I was curious after my previous post on loft comparisons, I built this quick table based on some "unofficial" information I gleaned from the web - just as a reference.  I also threw in the TM Stealth as a comparison as it is one of the stronger lofted offerings.

Just some interesting notes from my quick review:

• The T200's are very similar in loft profile to the JPX923 HMHL.  Where the HM and HMP are of course stronger lofted.  The 923F is similar enough in loft to the the T200's that I could draw some good performance comparisons by testing those against my current set.
• The JPX923 Tour's are lofted exactly the same as the Pro 221 Blades which makes sense... I will be extremely interested to see the JPX tech at those lofts.  

The JPX923's I'm really looking forward to trying out are the HMP and the Tours.  But that is going to be the difference of the next month or two... and sometime next year

I really hope I hit the 923hm as well as I did the 921 at my fitting, since the 923s will be out by the time I can buy them.

[Hook DeLoft]

I wonder if they will change the shaft offerings.  Not saying they should, just wondering.

[yungkory]

On 8/26/2022 at 11:01 AM, bens197 said:

You're going to love them...what setup did you pick?

Steelfibers and we went .5" longer which was interesting. I'm sub-6' didn't think I would ever play longer clubs, but it moved my strike up the face a little bit and I was hitting the middle more consistently

On 8/26/2022 at 2:49 PM, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I was thinking about  you the other day.  Hard to believe it was what 3 releases ago we did the JPX forum testing. 
 

Man time flies. 

That test changed my outlook on irons forever! Mizuno or nothing for me, until they make a product that I just can't get along with. Even then, I'll have a set regardless just to look at them and drool.

[SagedCrusader]

2 hours ago, Hook DeLoft said:

I wonder if they will change the shaft offerings.  Not saying they should, just wondering.

I'm good with the shafts, I hope they keep the same grips. I was going to get the mcc +4 blue on the 921s.  I also hope they keep the same club offerings

[MattF]

12 hours ago, Hook DeLoft said:

I wonder if they will change the shaft offerings.  Not saying they should, just wondering.

From what I was told, the shafts are all the same.

10 hours ago, SagedCrusader said:

I'm good with the shafts, I hope they keep the same grips. I was going to get the mcc +4 blue on the 921s.  I also hope they keep the same club offerings

Same with grips, nothing changed.

[Jay2000]

I was told Mizuno let's you pick the shafts and grips you want. 

[SagedCrusader]

3 hours ago, MattF said:

Same with grips, nothing changed.

good, I really liked what I picked at the fitting for the 921s so it's good to here the options should be the same for the 923s

[tdroma98]

23 hours ago, Tiftaaft said:

Because I was curious after my previous post on loft comparisons, I built this quick table based on some "unofficial" information I gleaned from the web - just as a reference.  I also threw in the TM Stealth as a comparison as it is one of the stronger lofted offerings.

Just some interesting notes from my quick review:

• The T200's are very similar in loft profile to the JPX923 HMHL.  Where the HM and HMP are of course stronger lofted.  The 923F is similar enough in loft to the the T200's that I could draw some good performance comparisons by testing those against my current set.
• The JPX923 Tour's are lofted exactly the same as the Pro 221 Blades which makes sense... I will be extremely interested to see the JPX tech at those lofts.  

The JPX923's I'm really looking forward to trying out are the HMP and the Tours.  But that is going to be the difference of the next month or two... and sometime next year

Thanks Tift! Great summary & thanks for putting together the chart above.  Very helpful.  Interesting about switching to Nippon shafts, I've been contemplating changing to same shafts or purchasing new irons with the Nippon shafts.  Not sold on my current irons, Maverick Pro's, especially after changing from Titleist AP2 714. Knew there would be a difference. The T200's look good.  Appreciate your comments! 

[Golfspy_CG2]

Saw the whole new lineup this week 

Really not much different looking than the 921 lineup.  
 

Foeged is a bit smaller heel to toe and vey slightly thinner too line.  Almost starting to blur into the Tour.  But when you hold them side by side, thee is a little difference.  Some other technical stuff that can be mentioned yet. 
 

In the Hot Metal the big news is a new model.  The Hot Metal HL for High Launch.  Same specs offset and size wise as the HM.  But with slightly weaker lofts to increase carry and height.  Especially in the 5-7 irons.   
 

We should have our fitting heads in next week and I’ll be interested to hit them.  
 

 

[MattF]

I get mine on Wednesday night, I'm getting excited now!

[sirchunksalot]

14 minutes ago, MattF said:

I get mine on Wednesday night, I'm getting excited now!

I know I'm stating the obvious, but we are going to require gratuitous photos. I'm pumped for you, Matt. 

[Golfspy_CG2]

1 hour ago, sirchunksalot said:

I know I'm stating the obvious, but we are going to require gratuitous photos. I'm pumped for you, Matt. 

He’s in an event that will still be under embargo until the official date.  I’m sure he wouldn’t want to jeopardize his standing there for the likes of us

[sirchunksalot]

10 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

He’s in an event that will still be under embargo until the official date.  I’m sure he wouldn’t want to jeopardize his standing there for the likes of us

I was curious about that, I thought I read the embargo didn't lift until 9/23 so I guess we'll be waiting until then to see the new sticks. Thanks for the info, Rob. I wouldn't want to see anyone posting up until it's allowed. 

[GolfSpy_APH]

3 minutes ago, sirchunksalot said:

I was curious about that, I thought I read the embargo didn't lift until 9/23 so I guess we'll be waiting until then to see the new sticks. Thanks for the info, Rob. I wouldn't want to see anyone posting up until it's allowed. 

I will certainly be doing one for the forum when the embargo is up and we are allowed to.

[MattF]

21 hours ago, sirchunksalot said:

I know I'm stating the obvious, but we are going to require gratuitous photos. I'm pumped for you, Matt. 

 

20 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

He’s in an event that will still be under embargo until the official date.  I’m sure he wouldn’t want to jeopardize his standing there for the likes of us

I'll certainly post pics on or after 9/23, when I'm allowed to do so.

[GolfSpy TCB]

2 hours ago, MattF said:

 

I'll certainly post pics on or after 9/23, when I'm allowed to do so.

In the meantime... your descriptive words will suffice Matt!!

[MattF]

5 hours ago, Golfspy_TCB said:

In the meantime... your descriptive words will suffice Matt!!

Want me to talk about my shaft??

[GolfSpy TCB]

4 minutes ago, MattF said:

Want me to talk about my shaft??

Hey... you be you. 

[GolfSpy SAM]

34 minutes ago, MattF said:

Want me to talk about my shaft??

Of course.  Is it smooth or textured?  I would have thought smooth would be all the rage, but I gotta say, having recently gotten ahold of my textured shaft, boy-oh-BOY! I'm crazy about it! I just can't stop thinking about my long, strong, textured shaft.

And don't even get me STARTED on my balls! 

Oh G*DDAMMIT you sunsofbeaches - you got me again. 

[MattF]

15 hours ago, Golfspy_TCB said:

Hey... you be you. 

That could get me banned...

[tony@CIC]

On 8/24/2022 at 1:36 PM, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Here's the chart I was talking about, it's from 2020 I believe after the JPX21 line was released.  I think it will hold true to the current Mizumo Pro and JPX23 lineup as well.  With the addtion of the Hot Metal HL probably being slotted at the very top right after the Hot Metal.

For those who haven't followed the Mizuno naming convention going from MP to Mizuno Pro they would be

MP20 MB = Mizuno Pro 22

MP20 MMC = Mizuno Pro 223

MP20 HMB = Mizuno Pro 225

 

 

Interesting they have a handicap gap between Hot Metal Pro <16 and Hot Metal >20. Marketing mistake?