What equipment are you thinking about?

[Javs]

22 minutes ago, cnosil said:

MGS started hybrid testing yesterday and we started talking about the PXG hybrids.  I tried one of the gen 6 and I saw straight ball flight and higher spin than I was getting with some of the other hybrids.   Maybe a touch shorter than some but definitely a solid club.  The one I hit was stock and not adjusted to my swing and probably wouldn’t be one I would pick off the shelf: x stiff and heavy 95 gram shaft.  

Thank you for the feedback!

[chisag]

3 hours ago, Preeway said:

It isn’t true that you want to have every putt go past the cup. It really does depend on the break and uphill vs. downhill. Or even on lag putts where my goal is to just be close enough to 2 putt. The only time I’m really thinking about finishing past the cup is when I’m inside 6 feet, if it isn’t downhill. 

 

... You are preachin' to the choir  and as I said I am a die in the hole putter* so 18" past doesn't apply to me. I have probably had an equal amount of putts fall in the side as I have slide off the cup or bounce away that would have kept its line and fallen with more speed. The point of a putt that finishes 18" past the hole is it gives your putt the best chance of holding its line. Greens are mostly imperfect and a very slow rolling ball will be effected by the bumps, ball marks, sand, stones from bunkers and the raised area around the sides of the cup late in the day. Tour greens or CC rolling at 12-13 that are immaculately maintained are an exception. It is about speed not distance and I guess a better way to say the same thing is you want your putt to have enough speed that if it misses, it will roll 12-18" past the cup. 

... Played yesterday and unfortunately had several holes, but 2 in particular that were perched just on the downside of a severe slope/tier. I had to make the decision to lay up a couple birdie putts from 6 and 10 feet. My pard had a par putt of 7 feet and just barely rolled it to the hole and it just missed but barely turning over it didn't stop, picked up speed and rolled 15 feet past the hole. I was very careful from 6 feet and tried to stop the ball just short but it still trickled and would have been right beside him had it not fallen in the hole and honestly I was not trying to make it. So yea, we can come up with plenty of examples where 18" past isn't the correct play but by and large it has been proven over and over again that the correct speed to hold a putts line is about 18" past the hole. 

* I would add my father in law that was a really bad putter would all too often say to me when I came up just short "99% of putts that come up short don't go in, you have to roll it past the hole to have a chance". I had had enough and finally said to Richard against my ex's advice of just ignore him "Hey Dick I know you didn't go to college but 99% of putts that roll past the hole don't go in either" 

[StrokerAce]

On 6/16/2023 at 11:37 AM, Vegan_Golfer_PNW said:

have you tried an apex UW? i hated my 3 hybrid. love my 4w. was a good natural progression. I just hit it far

Tried the UW vs a 7w and ended up picking up a demo on sale for 150 at PGASS.

Thanks for the tip. This might be just what the doc ordered. 

[Vegan_Golfer_PNW]

3 minutes ago, StrokerAce said:

Tried the UW vs a 7w and ended up picking up a demo on sale for 150 at PGASS.

Thanks for the tip. This might be just what the doc ordered. 

good to hear! it was eye opening to me too. So much so I hope they make a 23 or 24* shortly that isn't tour issue. Hit it well!

[GolfSpy_BEN]

Need to demo them to be sure, but I am leaning towards the 13.5 degree 3 wood and the 18 degree 5 wood. 
 

They would be replacing a 15 degree 3 wood and 19 degree 3 hybrid. 
 

Beyond an assumed distance gain, I’m curious if these clubs will provide a tighter dispersion. The PXG 0211’s I’m currently gaming have been good to me, but in my quest to get to scratch, I need a little more than they can provide.

[Javs]

6 minutes ago, Ben Joest said:

Need to demo them to be sure, but I am leaning towards the 13.5 degree 3 wood and the 18 degree 5 wood. 
 

They would be replacing a 15 degree 3 wood and 19 degree 3 hybrid. 
 

Beyond an assumed distance gain, I’m curious if these clubs will provide a tighter dispersion. The PXG 0211’s I’m currently gaming have been good to me, but in my quest to get to scratch, I need a little more than they can provide.

If you pull the trigger please give us your take. I would be very interested in hearing about these!

[GolfSpy_BEN]

11 minutes ago, Javs said:

If you pull the trigger please give us your take. I would be very interested in hearing about these!

I put a feeler out a few days ago, but didn’t get any response. So I may have to be the intrepid soul who crawls, so the rest of us may walk. I’m sure SWMBO will understand, it’s in the forum’s best interest…

[richk9holes]

53 minutes ago, Ben Joest said:

I put a feeler out a few days ago, but didn’t get any response. So I may have to be the intrepid soul who crawls, so the rest of us may walk. I’m sure SWMBO will understand, it’s in the forum’s best interest…

I'm sure if you man-splain the "greater good theory" to her it will go over swimmingly.

[Javs]

Has anyone ever purchased or used the Eagle Eye Rangefinder? I see they are on sale through an offer with the VGA. 

[Fred Mitchell]

On 6/19/2023 at 12:34 PM, chisag said:

 

...  Thanks! I have a link to a putter co with roll technology proclaiming its benefits. You have a link to a putter co without roll technology discounting its benefits. Always seems to be conflicting information when it comes to the more complicated equipment technology. We both agree that the proper loft is one of the most important elements.

... When Kevin Weeks examined my putting the two things I took away as the most important were:

1. Putts rolling at a speed that would end up 18" past the hole gives you the best chance at making putts on most mid to slower muni greens which can have more surface irregularities and sometimes the "volcano effect" in the afternoon from either an improperly cut hole or many players stepping right next to the whole al day long. BUT, if you are mentally wired to die the putt in the hole that shouldn't be ignored as you will have putts drop in from the high side that would not with 18" of past the hole speed and it works better on fast and true greens. He said my distance was very consistent when dying the ball in the hole but inconsistent when trying to roll past the hole so I shouldn't change. 

2. Through trial and error I developed a slight forward press and Kevin suggested that was my way of getting the proper loft for a better roll. I didn't remember when I started with a slight forward press and at that time didn't really know I was doing it. 

I posted on another thread that I putt with a forward lean also. read somewhere about using it in the close but not gimme range and when I tried it and it really helped so I slowly moved the distance out and found out that close or long the forward lean works best for me.

[Charles Lechair]

I'm happy with my putter, but those new TM putters look nice. I like how clean they are. 

Gonna keep my eye on them and see how they look out in the wild

[richk9holes]

49 minutes ago, Charles Lechair said:

I'm happy with my putter, but those new TM putters look nice. I like how clean they are. 

Gonna keep my eye on them and see how they look out in the wild

...not that I've looked at them or anything. Hey, how'd this $400 putter get in my shopping cart??   

[Charles Lechair]

15 minutes ago, richk9holes said:

...not that I've looked at them or anything. Hey, how'd this $400 putter get in my shopping cart??   

That's the one i was eyeing as well. WIsh it came in a slant neck

[Josh Ross]

Really considering the new Garmin Approach S70, love the reported accuracy of it and the health features. $700 is steep but having to monitor my heart rate and other metrics because of my heart issue is aggravating sometimes and this will do a lot of it for me along with being a good golf watch. I have the SkyCaddie LX5 that I tested for MGS but it doesn't so nearly what the Garmin says it can. Hmmm...

[KC Golf]

On 6/19/2023 at 1:55 PM, chisag said:

 

... Just got this response from Evnroll:


Hi Sam,

Thanks for reaching out and your interest in Evnroll Putters. The groove technology on our putters does increase friction between face and ball at impact increasing top spin similar to the Taylormades. The difference is the shape of our groove. It increases the consistency of ball speeds across the hitting area with variable land mass (parabolically shaped grooves - v shape)

Let us know if you have any other questions

 

 

I assume rolling straight immediately after contact with as little pop off the ground is the most desirable.  That is the fitting adjustment I got for loft, but I was curious if your fitting guru had other thoughts around loft.

[rmotoole]

On 6/19/2023 at 6:50 PM, Ben Joest said:

Anybody gaming Paradym fairway woods? Any strong opinions for or against?

I demo'd the 3HL that is 16.5 degrees about a month ago and it was incredible but the price tag on it was just not what I was willing to pay at this time. Might hold out until next year and see what Callaway Preowned has on them. I felt like the loft on it made it the perfect fairway wood.  

[richk9holes]

9 minutes ago, rmotoole said:

I demo'd the 3HL that is 16.5 degrees about a month ago and it was incredible but the price tag on it was just not what I was willing to pay at this time. Might hold out until next year and see what Callaway Preowned has on them. I felt like the loft on it made it the perfect fairway wood.  

I had similar thoughts, but then I will hit my 917 f2 3w about 230y from a thin lie and think to myself how much better am I gonna get for $300

[GolfSpy_BEN]

12 minutes ago, rmotoole said:

I demo'd the 3HL that is 16.5 degrees about a month ago and it was incredible but the price tag on it was just not what I was willing to pay at this time. Might hold out until next year and see what Callaway Preowned has on them. I felt like the loft on it made it the perfect fairway wood.  

Welcome to the forum!

Through shear dumb luck, I picked up the 3+ - 13.5 degree and 5 - 18 degree. I wrote about the experience in the “what have you bought lately” thread. You may find it helpful. I am also doing an unofficial review of the Callaway Paradym Fairway woods that could be of interest to you. If you have any questions about the forum, feel free to ask, most folks around here are pretty friendly.

[rmotoole]

1 minute ago, richk9holes said:

I had similar thoughts, but then I will hit my 917 f2 3w about 230y from a thin lie and think to myself how much better am I gonna get for $300

I hear you. Callaway Preowned has the Rogue model from last year in the 3HL for right around $150 for the "Like New" category so it's really hard to pull the trigger on the Paradym, IMO. Hoping they hit the site next year with a more consumer friendly price tag. 

[richk9holes]

1 minute ago, rmotoole said:

I hear you. Callaway Preowned has the Rogue model from last year in the 3HL for right around $150 for the "Like New" category so it's really hard to pull the trigger on the Paradym, IMO. Hoping they hit the site next year with a more consumer friendly price tag. 

Based on recent history, I'd say target a holiday sale when they are also giving a trade bonus if you have clubs to trade. Similar to what @Ben Joest did but through Callaway pre-owned and a little later down the product cycle.

[Badams69]

On 6/18/2023 at 9:31 PM, chisag said:

... My putters with roll technology and I have putted very well with all of them. Nike B1/07 ... Bobby Grace 6330 ... Nickent Tour:





 

So is that the nike that cheating Patrick used before?   Love that slant neck!  

Also - I've been using a Grace with the older insert (or I think it the older one).  You find this one to be pretty consistent off the face????   I'm highly intrigued.

[Preeway]

2 hours ago, rmotoole said:

I demo'd the 3HL that is 16.5 degrees about a month ago and it was incredible but the price tag on it was just not what I was willing to pay at this time. Might hold out until next year and see what Callaway Preowned has on them. I felt like the loft on it made it the perfect fairway wood.  

I have the Rogue 3HL, which to me is essentially a strong 4-wood, and it’s great. I would look to see what you can get the Rogue for nowadays as I bet it’s a steal for the quality packed in that club. 

[chisag]

59 minutes ago, Badams69 said:

Also - I've been using a Grace with the older insert (or I think it the older one).  You find this one to be pretty consistent off the face????   I'm highly intrigued.

 

... No doubt the 6330 is my all time favorite putter. The roll is extraordinary and on fast, bent greens I can't imagine using anything else. Alas bumpy Bermuda calls for a slightly different and more aggressive pace and I have found a mallet works best for me here in the desert. 

[Badams69]

46 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

... No doubt the 6330 is my all time favorite putter. The roll is extraordinary and on fast, bent greens I can't imagine using anything else. Alas bumpy Bermuda calls for a slightly different and more aggressive pace and I have found a mallet works best for me here in the desert. 

Cool, that 6330 looks like an 8802 back from space camp! or The Terminator got him a nice putter   

Sweet.  Thanks for letting me know.

[Javs]

43 minutes ago, chisag said:

 

... No doubt the 6330 is my all time favorite putter. The roll is extraordinary and on fast, bent greens I can't imagine using anything else. Alas bumpy Bermuda calls for a slightly different and more aggressive pace and I have found a mallet works best for me here in the desert. 

I fully agree. I was always a blade putter. Moved to central Texas and with grainy, bumpy Bermuda greens had to switch to a mallet putter. Currently have the PXG BAT ATTACK BATTLE READY BRADON PUTTER. It works better on these greens.

  

[chisag]

34 minutes ago, Badams69 said:

Cool, that 6330 looks like an 8802 back from space camp! or The Terminator got him a nice putter   

Sweet.  Thanks for letting me know.

 

... You are welcome and please enjoy the Putter Porn:

[rkj427]

22 hours ago, Josh Ross said:

Really considering the new Garmin Approach S70, love the reported accuracy of it and the health features. $700 is steep but having to monitor my heart rate and other metrics because of my heart issue is aggravating sometimes and this will do a lot of it for me along with being a good golf watch. I have the SkyCaddie LX5 that I tested for MGS but it doesn't so nearly what the Garmin says it can. Hmmm...

Just a FYI - you may want to check out the SWAPPA website.

It is a storefront similar to Ebay or Amazon where there are retailers selling various NEW or used Garmin watches at pricing much more affordable than full retail.

I bought an Epix Gen 2 Titanium, NEW from a retail seller there for $501.00 shipped to me. The Epix 2 has the same glass as the new G70, a little less resolution, but also contains many more features.

[Josh Ross]

2 hours ago, rkj427 said:

Just a FYI - you may want to check out the SWAPPA website.

It is a storefront similar to Ebay or Amazon where there are retailers selling various NEW or used Garmin watches at pricing much more affordable than full retail.

I bought an Epix Gen 2 Titanium, NEW from a retail seller there for $501.00 shipped to me. The Epix 2 has the same glass as the new G70, a little less resolution, but also contains many more features.

Heck yeah, I appreciate that.

[GaryF]

Last week fitter had me hit various 5h, 7w and 5w, but due to low trajectory that day gave me the HL version to try for a few days.  Felt too light and somewhat whippy.  Went back today and hit both the HL and regular and did well with both.  Probably a little longer carry with HL but good distance and height with both.

Not looking at a new driver but wanted to hit my current Fusion and see my numbers then compare to the Ping 430 Max.  Several years ago when I took lessons, they remade my swing.  When I was 40, with a bad swing technique I was measured at 96 mph,  During the lessons with proper technique, I was around 87-88 (and carry around 185).  The past 2 years I have worked a lot flexibility p, etc, and have picked up a lot of distance.  I’m now 70 yo, and today my SS avg was 94.6 (pleasantly shocked), carry at 215 and total in the 235-245 range.  My max with both my old driver and new Ping were an identical carry of 218. 

[cksurfdude]

On 6/24/2023 at 10:21 AM, rkj427 said:

Just a FYI - you may want to check out the SWAPPA website

Eventually gonna have to replace my aging Samsung .. may have to check that one out .. thx.