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Hit both the Apex and the Apex pro a few weeks ago. There was no real distance difference between the two irons. The Apex went a little higher, but I expected there to be more of a difference between the two. They both felt good, but I wouldn’t say they had the “soft” feel of a forging. It would be pretty tough to get a cup faced iron to feel super soft. They were both very accurate!


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Took mine out for a test run yesterday.  I hit them fairly well but still getting used to them.  Solid feel, high launch, a bit longer than my previous Mizuno JPX 850 irons, but that's expected as they're stronger lofted.  I have KBS Tour Graphite shafts installed 1/2 longer than standard.  

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Driver: :ping-small: G400 Max 9 degree set to +1, Aldila Extreme Green 55 gram R shaft 

Fairway: :taylormade-small: M4 3W (16.5*) 5W (21*) 7W (24*) -- stock R shafts.

Irons: :callaway-small: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW KBSTour Graphite  70g shafts R

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX2 52,56, 60 degree wedges

Putter: :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab 7S

Ball: :Snell: MTB-X

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OK, played a full round with the clubs today and I really like the iron.  The ball jumps off the face, rather high trajectory, but good distance.  Even my misses were not punishing shots.  My most common miss was a dead pull that flew straight -- obviously, not a knock on the iron, but on my swing.  Punched a six iron under the trees to the green.  Chipped with a nine iron for a tap in par.  Full swing with a 7 iron left me 8 feet above the hole (missed the putt).  All in all...I like 'em!

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Driver: :ping-small: G400 Max 9 degree set to +1, Aldila Extreme Green 55 gram R shaft 

Fairway: :taylormade-small: M4 3W (16.5*) 5W (21*) 7W (24*) -- stock R shafts.

Irons: :callaway-small: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW KBSTour Graphite  70g shafts R

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX2 52,56, 60 degree wedges

Putter: :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab 7S

Ball: :Snell: MTB-X

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  • 3 weeks later...

I hit these at my clubs demo day and decided to get a set. I went with the combo Apex/Apex Pro with the elevate 95 shaft. Long and High and very stable. I'm lefty so they are back ordered. Can't wait to get them!

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Had a chance to hit both this week, and I definitely liked the Apex Pro more. I had a more difficult time controlling distances and the trajectories for knockdown shots with the Apex. However, I felt the Apex were very easy to hit. 

I do not like "butter soft" irons, and the Apex Pro gave me the feels I wanted as they were not incredibly buttery. I felt in control of my shots, my mishits did not give me poor dispersion results, and the shape just fit my eyes. My only real knock is I wish they came in a satin or raw finish... Enough of the chrome already!

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I recently tried both the callaway apex and apex pro irons and found that the original apex were more consistent than the pro version.  This was just my feel though, everyone has their own feel for clubs and what they like.  If you like more of a players iron that has a smaller head then the pros might be for you but if you like the look of the bigger head and you find that that makes it easier to hit consistent shots on a bigger face then the original apex is a good option.  Both iron are very nice clubs and a great option if you are looking for clubs but there are very slight differences between these clubs so if you are considering buying one or the other you should try both before buying.

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All I know is that I'm really liking my Apex CF19 irons.  I had them custom fit at Club Champion with KBS Tour Graphite shafts, 1/2 inch long and 3 up at D5.  Previously, I was playing Mizuno JPX 850 irons, 1/4 inch long stock graphite, standard lie, D2. 

 My regular playing partner has remarked that he's going to have to step up his own game now that I'm firing my ball at the pin much better than before.

Driver: :ping-small: G400 Max 9 degree set to +1, Aldila Extreme Green 55 gram R shaft 

Fairway: :taylormade-small: M4 3W (16.5*) 5W (21*) 7W (24*) -- stock R shafts.

Irons: :callaway-small: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW KBSTour Graphite  70g shafts R

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: CBX2 52,56, 60 degree wedges

Putter: :odyssey-small: Stroke Lab 7S

Ball: :Snell: MTB-X

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I finally got my combo set and all I can say is wow... very forgiving and they go a mile with high ball flight. The lofts are almost too strong for me and I may have to dial them back. Hitting 195-200 yrd 5 irons which is almost 2 clubs stronger than my TM770's. Great turf interaction. If you are coming from a traditional forged set, there are not buttery soft as many describe, although not as harsh as a cast club. The elevate 95 performs as its name says and I'm getting great trajectory with these - have been a lower trajectory hitter in the past. Shot 78 on my first two rounds with these!

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I cannot say enough good things about the Apex 19 irons. I use the 6-AW and every club has been money. I have never hit my irons this consistently well. Before getting them I was considering going all hybrids as I was just so disappointed by my play. Thought hasn't crossed my mind since this purchase. 

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Driver :taylormade-small: M3 9.5* with 44" Mitsubishi Tensei blue stiff shaft

:callaway-small: Big Bertha 3 hybrid 18* UST Mamiya Recoil ES 780 graphite stiff

:callaway-small: Apex 19 5-AW with True Temper Elevate 95 stiff shafts

:titelist-small: SM6 54* and 58* wedges

:ping-small: Sigma 2 Tyne Stealth 35"

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I just hit these last night and was absolutely blown away by them!  These irons feel like butter, but still keep their consistency and accuracy.  Callaway really did a great job with these irons!

Driver: Taylormade SIM2
3 Wood: Taylormade SIM
3 Utility Iron: Srixon U85
4i – AW: Taylormade P760
SW: Vokey SM7 M Grind
LW: Cleveland RTX 4 X-Low
Putter: Ping Vault Oslo

 

 

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They are great looking irons!  

   Driver:  :callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g

3 Wood:  :titelist-small: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff

5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: :callaway-small:  Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

Wedges:  :callaway-small: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex

    Putter: :titelist-small: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34"

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Older thread, but I just got a set off of Callaway’s Pre-Owned site at the beginning of this season. I got the Combo set and I was wondering if anyone else has experienced some hot shots- I get some big dispersion numbers with respect to distance. For instance, my 8 Iron has gone 166-185; a 7 iron between 167-190. Of course my Arccos numbers are based on limited data (3 rounds), but I was wondering if anyone else finds the Apex to be a little inconsistent distance wise? 
 

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Driver: Ping 425 Max; Rogue White 70

3 Wood: Ping 410; Mitsubishi Tensei Orange

7 Wood: Callaway Steelhead

3, 5-7 Irons: Callaway Apex 19

8-AW Irons: Callaway Apex Pro 19

Wedges: Titleist 53 degree, Callaway MD4 58 X Grind 

Putter: Odyssey 10 Tour Lined; Seemore Z2

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27 minutes ago, DukeStKing said:

Older thread, but I just got a set off of Callaway’s Pre-Owned site at the beginning of this season. I got the Combo set and I was wondering if anyone else has experienced some hot shots- I get some big dispersion numbers with respect to distance. For instance, my 8 Iron has gone 166-185; a 7 iron between 167-190. Of course my Arccos numbers are based on limited data (3 rounds), but I was wondering if anyone else finds the Apex to be a little inconsistent distance wise? 
 

Your at about a 20 yard pattern depth.  What is your expectation?    As a 9 cap, that probably isn't too bad; You are hitting these irons in PGA pro distance ranges and they have about a 15 yard depth.  

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22 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Your at about a 20 yard pattern depth.  What is your expectation?    As a 9 cap, that probably isn't too bad; You are hitting these irons in PGA pro distance ranges and they have about a 15 yard depth.  

My expectation is not to be surprised. While I understand an over hit (because of a pull or flyer lie) is part of the game, I was never able to hit my old irons (Taylor Made TP Cavity Back) 20 or 30 yards further per iron. 

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Driver: Ping 425 Max; Rogue White 70

3 Wood: Ping 410; Mitsubishi Tensei Orange

7 Wood: Callaway Steelhead

3, 5-7 Irons: Callaway Apex 19

8-AW Irons: Callaway Apex Pro 19

Wedges: Titleist 53 degree, Callaway MD4 58 X Grind 

Putter: Odyssey 10 Tour Lined; Seemore Z2

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33 minutes ago, DukeStKing said:

My expectation is not to be surprised. While I understand an over hit (because of a pull or flyer lie) is part of the game, I was never able to hit my old irons (Taylor Made TP Cavity Back) 20 or 30 yards further per iron. 

 

That wasn't my question but we mishit balls so they end up shorter than expectations and as you mentioned the pull left that goes longer.   I don't think you have enough rounds to truly assess your data.     But to better answer your original question; when doing most wanted testing I occasionally find irons that have hot spots and the ball travels farther than expected.  Callaway is one brand that seems to have the occasional hot shot. 

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Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15* set  to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  21*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
               :titelist-small: 915H 24*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
Irons:      :honma:TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :callaway-small: 54-10S   :cleveland-small: 588  58-12
Putter:  :seemore-small: mFGP2

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8 minutes ago, cnosil said:

That wasn't my question but we mishit balls so they end up shorter than expectations and as you mentioned the pull left that goes longer.   I don't think you have enough rounds to truly assess your data.     But to better answer your original question; when doing most wanted testing I occasionally find irons that have hot spots and the ball travels farther than expected.  Callaway is one brand that seems to have the occasional hot shot. 

You’re absolutely right about the data- I need more rounds using the Arccos. The sensors confirmed my initial impression of the Callaways- that they were much hotter than my previous set- and it’s not just the jacked lofts. I think the hotter face is what contributes to the forgiveness. I’ve been very impressed that the compact heads (especially in the Pro version) are as forgiving as my much bigger Taylor Made TP Cavity backs. Thanks for your responses. 

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Driver: Ping 425 Max; Rogue White 70

3 Wood: Ping 410; Mitsubishi Tensei Orange

7 Wood: Callaway Steelhead

3, 5-7 Irons: Callaway Apex 19

8-AW Irons: Callaway Apex Pro 19

Wedges: Titleist 53 degree, Callaway MD4 58 X Grind 

Putter: Odyssey 10 Tour Lined; Seemore Z2

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2 hours ago, DukeStKing said:

. I got the Combo set and I was wondering if anyone else has experienced some hot shots-

Been an issue with the apex all the way back to the 2014 release 

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Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

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On 8/1/2021 at 1:40 PM, RickyBobby_PR said:

Been an issue with the apex all the way back to the 2014 release 

I have owned three sets of the older Apex Pros, the second version from 2016 and just got a set of the 19s and have not had one issue with hot spots on them.  I did have this issue in the month that I played the Rogue Pros but that could also have been a shaft issue for me, but they did not last long at all in the bag.  

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:callaway-small: Epic Speed 15* MMT 70x

:callaway-small: Apex UW 17* HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 80 6.5

:callaway-small: X Forged UT 24* MMT 105TX

:callaway-small: Apex Pro 5 - AW Steelfiber 115x

:callaway-small: PM Grind 2.0 54* $ 58* KBS $ Taper 120 Black

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12 minutes ago, Jmikecpa said:

I have owned three sets of the older Apex Pros, the second version from 2016 and just got a set of the 19s and have not had one issue with hot spots on them.  I did have this issue in the month that I played the Rogue Pros but that could also have been a shaft issue for me, but they did not last long at all in the bag.  

You hit the ball in the same spot;  those of us that use the whole face occasionally find “hot” spots. 😂 I have noticed it during most wanted testing, but mats could be an explanation.   Don’t have any on course experience with them 

Driver:  :ping-small: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven
Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15* set  to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  21*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
               :titelist-small: 915H 24*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
Irons:      :honma:TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :callaway-small: 54-10S   :cleveland-small: 588  58-12
Putter:  :seemore-small: mFGP2

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2 minutes ago, cnosil said:

You hit the ball in the same spot;  those of us that use the whole face occasionally find “hot” spots. 😂 I have noticed it during most wanted testing, but mats could be an explanation.   Don’t have any on course experience with them 

I would argue that point but you are not wrong.....most of the time.  

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:callaway-small: Epic Max LS 10.5* MMT 60x

:callaway-small: Epic Speed 15* MMT 70x

:callaway-small: Apex UW 17* HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 80 6.5

:callaway-small: X Forged UT 24* MMT 105TX

:callaway-small: Apex Pro 5 - AW Steelfiber 115x

:callaway-small: PM Grind 2.0 54* $ 58* KBS $ Taper 120 Black

:ping-small: B90

 

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