StrokerAce Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Ran across this on twitter last night and it looks really interesting.... Like @Shankster I've always dislike offset but with no offset you usually get little tiny blades; these seem to be more of a players iron with no offset. Someone please try these before me. http://truezerooffset.com/ https://www.facebook.com/TRUEZEROOFFSET/ NRJyzr, silver & black, Shankster and 1 other 4 Quote Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03trdblack Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I'm very tempted. I've always enjoyed a more game improvement style iron, even as a lower handicap, but hated the massive offsets that most sets had. I can get fairly steep so the wider soles of GI irons help my game but lots of offset makes me hit it too far left. A number of years ago Ping released a set of the Rapture irons in Japan called the "Rapture J" irons. They had the same larger head and wider sole as the standard Rapture irons but featured much less offset. I grabbed a set and really enjoy using them, especially during the winter when I can't play as often and it's often very wet. 00sportsman and StrokerAce 2 Quote My bag is a revolving door! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 The Holy Grail. StrokerAce, palvord, silver & black and 2 others 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palvord Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Shankster said: The Holy Grail. Do we kneel? Or bow? I forget what the proper etiquette is. 00sportsman and tommc23 1 1 Quote In my Ultralight Stand Bag: Driver: Rogue 10.5° - LH - Project X EvenFlow 60 Stiff Woods: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue TS 7 Stiff King F9 - LH - 5/6 Wood - Atmos Blue TS 7 Stiff Irons: King F9 - LH - 5-GW - KBS C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° - KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 Stiff Putter: - Impact No. 3 Ball: Maxfli TourX Rangefinder: LX5 Watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Do we kneel? Or bow? I forget what the proper etiquette is.Send it. palvord, Londo, 00sportsman and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Very interesting read on their website.I’ve always disliked the onset of woods, and offset on irons. Makes sense to me that having the clubface inline with the shaft would give the best results. Anyone know what woods have the least onset and no offset, closest to 0 either way? 00sportsman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellis745 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 It's too bad I don't have the eggplant and rain drop emoji here. Those are absolutely beautiful. 00sportsman 1 Quote PXG 0811X Gen 4 7.5* - Graphite Design Tour AD-HD 7 TX TaylorMade M6 15* - PX HZRDUS Green 80 TX Titleist 913 Fd 18* - MCA KuroKage XMS 90 X /// OR /// Callaway XForged UT 20* - Aldila Rogue Black 105 TX Srixon Z745 4-P - PX LZ 7.0 Vokey SM7 49F / 53F / 58K - DG TI S400 Odyssey Black #3 34” Titleist AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I’m not much of a lover of zero offset irons but let me just say...the shape of that wedge design is Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy StrokerAce and 00sportsman 2 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artful_golfer Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I enjoyed reading about these. Something else I just learned. 00sportsman and StrokerAce 2 Quote PXG 0811 XF driver Serene: 3 wood, 4 & 5 hybrid iron r7 Draw, Flex L: 4, 6 - 9 irons Wedges: RTX Zipcore 46 mid bounce; RTX-3: 52/10 wedge; and Tour Action 900 60* low bounce Armlock putter or E-2 Torque custom fit putter Tour B XS golf ball V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaid Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I checked out their website as well. My 58 Dyna-Powered’s have zero offset and they are super accurate. If you don’t need help getting height to your shots, you don’t need offset.These look pretty good. Would have rather seen them forged carbon steel than stainless steel though.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Shankster, NRJyzr, 00sportsman and 1 other 4 Quote WITB: Stan Thompson “Reactionizer” persimmon woods 1-4 Spalding Tour Edition 3-PW Spalding Top-Flite E.V.A. Sand Club Rife Legend Z Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00sportsman Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Very interesting. I'd love to know what someone who actually tried them has to say. Thanks for posting that, @GolfSpy Stroker Quote I always try to remember that I'm not good enough to get mad! My Bag: G400 Max G30 3W King S9-1 5W Aeroburner 3 Rescue/Hybrid G400 5-UW RTX4 52* and 56* 2Bar Mallet Traverse II Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03trdblack Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I'd also like to see them make a zero offset hybrid. I prefer a hybrid that has a little onset like a mini fairway wood so that I won't hit it left. Maltby made one years ago called the CT250 that was exactly this and I played them for years. downlowkey 1 Quote My bag is a revolving door! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaid Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 So has anyone here bought a set of these yet?I really thought hard about it but after pricing out a build with DG R300’s it is $900 for a set. Pretty hard to pull the trigger on a set of irons from a new company with poor website photos at that price, especially since a set of Hogan PTx Pros can be had for under $800.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Vegan_Golfer_PNW 1 Quote WITB: Stan Thompson “Reactionizer” persimmon woods 1-4 Spalding Tour Edition 3-PW Spalding Top-Flite E.V.A. Sand Club Rife Legend Z Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 So has anyone here bought a set of these yet?I really thought hard about it but after pricing out a build with DG R300’s it is $900 for a set. Pretty hard to pull the trigger on a set of irons from a new company with poor website photos at that price, especially since a set of Hogan PTx Pros can be had for under $800.Sent from my iPad using TapatalkNope. But those Tour Exotics CBX Blades are at the top of my list. Same offset from 3-AW. Bend them 1° weak and there would be no offset, or so little you wouldn’t notice. AH1980MN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaid Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 @Shankster I have a set of these Arias True Zero Offset irons incoming. Stay tuned for updates! Vegan_Golfer_PNW, The 19th Hole, downlowkey and 6 others 9 Quote WITB: Stan Thompson “Reactionizer” persimmon woods 1-4 Spalding Tour Edition 3-PW Spalding Top-Flite E.V.A. Sand Club Rife Legend Z Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavygolffeels Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Their lofts are pretty traditional. Why not take a cheap/used forged set and bend them weak to mimic and test out if you like 0 offset. Quote GARSEN GRIP TESTER Driver: PING G400 MAX, Ventus Blue 6x Woods: COBRA F6 Baffler AD DI 8S Hybrid: CALLAWAY Apex Pro, Ventus Blue 8s Irons: SRIXON ZX5 mk2 5-6, ZX7 mk2 7-PW, Modus 120x Wedges: EDEL 50 C grind, 54 V grind, CLEVELAND 60 RTX6 Low Putter: YES Abbie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaid Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I know I like zero offset. I’ve spent the last two years playing classic irons from the 1950’s with literally onset face progression. These Arias irons look to be the perfect modern iron for a traditional player, a more forgiving classic style club if you like. silver & black, Vegan_Golfer_PNW, NRJyzr and 1 other 4 Quote WITB: Stan Thompson “Reactionizer” persimmon woods 1-4 Spalding Tour Edition 3-PW Spalding Top-Flite E.V.A. Sand Club Rife Legend Z Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 I shouldn’t have looked at the pic in the first post... I’m about to go to bed..... Now I’ll have NIGHTMARES!!!!So scary!!!! Yikes!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRJyzr Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 These really look outstanding. If I were on the lookout for a CB, they'd be high on my list. I am curious to hear Brother Deejaid's experience with them.... Quote Driver: TM Original One 11.5* set to 11*, Aldila NV75 X, 43.5" -or- SpeedZone, HZRDUS Black 75 6.5, 43.5" 3w: Cobra King LTD, RIP Beta 90, 42" -or- Stage 2 Tour, NV105 X, 42.5" 2h or 3h: TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour, Aldila NV105 S -or- RIP Alpha 105 S Irons: 3-PW Mizuno MP37, Recoil Proto 125 F4 (reshaft in progress, slowly); 1i & 3-PW Golden Ram TW276, NV105 S; 2-PW Golden Ram TW282, RIP Tour 115 R GW: Dynacraft Dual Milled CNC 52*, Steelfiber 125 S; Scratch 8620 DS 53*, Steelfiber 125 S SW: Ram TG-898 56*, DGX ss2x; Ram Tom Watson 55*, DGX ss2x; Wilson Staff PMP 58*, DGS; PM Grind 19 58*, stock shaft Putter: Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34"; Ping Scottsdale TR Craz-E, 35"; Cleveland Huntington Beach 1, 35" Ball: Wilson Staff Duo Professional, Bridgestone Tour B-RXS, Callaway Chrome Soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 [mention=69396]Shankster[/mention] I have a set of these Arias True Zero Offset irons incoming. Stay tuned for updates!Can’t wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan19 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 @deejaid thinking about the Arias D-23’s myself. Can you let me know if ya liked em? Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBT Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 I’m not a fan of big offsets, but zero offset...damn that’s scary!Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Quote XR Driver Matrix Ozik 8m3 Black Tie Shaft King F7 3W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 5W UST Mamiya Chrome Elements 7F4 Shaft King F7 4 Hybrid Graphite Designs Tour AD-HY 95 Shaft PXG 0211 DC 5-PW Mitsubishi MMT 80 Shafts RTX ZIPCORE 50*,54*,58* UST Mamiya Recoil 95 Shafts Metal X Milled #7 with SuperStroke 2.0 grip MTB Twitter: @timldotson Instagram: timldotson Facebook: TimDotson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariobc Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 @deejaid I'm in the process of buying new irons and looking at DTC companies due to pricing. I love the zero offset idea and saw that you test them!! Would you reccomend? Do they look nice!? I was considering the Ben Hogan PTx Pro/Icon combo, but damn, there is way just too much offset. Would love to hear your thoughts!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaid Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 [mention=56773]deejaid[/mention] I'm in the process of buying new irons and looking at DTC companies due to pricing. I love the zero offset idea and saw that you test them!! Would you reccomend? Do they look nice!? I was considering the Ben Hogan PTx Pro/Icon combo, but damn, there is way just too much offset. Would love to hear your thoughts!! The Arias are quality irons. The zero offset is cool but I didn’t care for the size of the heads, just too big for me, and the sole grind was not what I like.I tested the Hogan combo and they are a much better club than the Arias, at least for me. The Hogan’s size and shape, at least in the Icon, is absolutely perfect. The PTx Pro’s are a little clunky but still pretty compact. Yes the Hogan’s have a little offset but offset is just one factor in achieving the overall design and performance of the club and for me the Hogan’s are a more complete design.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote WITB: Stan Thompson “Reactionizer” persimmon woods 1-4 Spalding Tour Edition 3-PW Spalding Top-Flite E.V.A. Sand Club Rife Legend Z Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakeeriegolfer Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 On 4/23/2019 at 4:34 PM, 03trdblack said: I'd also like to see them make a zero offset hybrid. I prefer a hybrid that has a little onset like a mini fairway wood so that I won't hit it left. Maltby made one years ago called the CT250 that was exactly this and I played them for years. Came to this thread looking for zero-offset iron info. I'm about to pull the trigger on a set of Taylormade R9 TP B-stamps and see what happens. But I saw your comment and Sub70 has what you are looking for. I tested the Sub70 949x Pro hybrid this year and love it. Its still in the bag and will take a lot to remove it. its a neutral bias hybrid that is cost effective and has juice to it. Tarheelvolvo and Vegan_Golfer_PNW 2 Quote Driver: Taylormade Rocketballz 9* Stock. 3-Wood: Callaway Epic Sub-Zero, 15*. Hybrid: Sub70 949x Pro 19*. Irons: Taylormade rac LT 3-PW. Wedges: Vokey F-Grind 52*, 58*. Putter: Rife 2-Bar Blade Putter. Pro V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakeeriegolfer Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Quick follow up, the set on ebay is way to expensive for a set of ten year old irons without the pitching wedge. And the other available set of R9 TP B stamps would require a shaft pull and new install as I most likely can't handle a tour level X-stiff shaft. Probably still try and get them and put them to work, but not going to overpay. Does anyone know of another brand that made a set of CB or MB irons that have little to no offset? This is clearly a hard thing to search for as companies don't really advertise or widely sell these tour issue sets. Feels like Mizuno coould have made something like this at some time. Quote Driver: Taylormade Rocketballz 9* Stock. 3-Wood: Callaway Epic Sub-Zero, 15*. Hybrid: Sub70 949x Pro 19*. Irons: Taylormade rac LT 3-PW. Wedges: Vokey F-Grind 52*, 58*. Putter: Rife 2-Bar Blade Putter. Pro V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook DeLoft Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Did KZG make some zero offset irons? I’ll google and post what I find. EDIT: KZG made some irons called ZO for zero offset but I think they actually had a tiny bit of offset. Quote 14 of the following: Ping G430 Max 10.5 degree Callaway 2023 Big Bertha 3 wood set to 17 degrees Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood Ping Eye 2 BeCu 2-SW Mizuno 923 JPX HM HL 6-GW Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 53 Maltby M Series+ 54 degree Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER2 Ping Sigma 2 Anser Cheap Top Flite mallet putter from Dick's, currently holding down first place in the bag TaylorMade Mini Spider Bridgestone XS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NRJyzr Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Aside from the Arias irons that were mentioned in the first posts of the thread, the zeroest of the zero offset irons I've ever seen are the Tommy Armour 986 Tours. Blades from the mid 80s to the mid 90s, really have no offset. Might even be onset. Probably a bit difficult to find them now. Occasional sets are around, but they're not exactly common. I should see if I can track down an address pic of the one I've got shafted up at moment... Quote Driver: TM Original One 11.5* set to 11*, Aldila NV75 X, 43.5" -or- SpeedZone, HZRDUS Black 75 6.5, 43.5" 3w: Cobra King LTD, RIP Beta 90, 42" -or- Stage 2 Tour, NV105 X, 42.5" 2h or 3h: TaylorMade Stage 2 Tour, Aldila NV105 S -or- RIP Alpha 105 S Irons: 3-PW Mizuno MP37, Recoil Proto 125 F4 (reshaft in progress, slowly); 1i & 3-PW Golden Ram TW276, NV105 S; 2-PW Golden Ram TW282, RIP Tour 115 R GW: Dynacraft Dual Milled CNC 52*, Steelfiber 125 S; Scratch 8620 DS 53*, Steelfiber 125 S SW: Ram TG-898 56*, DGX ss2x; Ram Tom Watson 55*, DGX ss2x; Wilson Staff PMP 58*, DGS; PM Grind 19 58*, stock shaft Putter: Snake Eyes Viper Tour Sv1, 34"; Ping Scottsdale TR Craz-E, 35"; Cleveland Huntington Beach 1, 35" Ball: Wilson Staff Duo Professional, Bridgestone Tour B-RXS, Callaway Chrome Soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sfdoddsy Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 On 4/24/2019 at 6:34 AM, 03trdblack said: I'd also like to see them make a zero offset hybrid. I prefer a hybrid that has a little onset like a mini fairway wood so that I won't hit it left. Maltby made one years ago called the CT250 that was exactly this and I played them for years. The Mizuno JPX Fli-Hi Hybrids, or iron replacement hybrids as they call them, have onset. Plus shorter shafts so they indeed genuine iron replacements. 03trdblack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sfdoddsy Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 The Holy Grail isn't necessarily zero or very low offset irons. Many blades have very low offset, and from memory the Cobra Ricky Fowler blades have none. The issue is making such a beast suitable for 'average' players. I've been searching for such a unicorn for years. Rightly or wrongly I blame offset for my iron hooking tendencies. I currently use Player's Distance irons with less offset than most (Cobra Forged Tec). But there is a super game improvement iron with less offset than all but the bladiest blades. Check out the offset specs for the Cleveland XL Halo irons, and their forerunners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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