LoganT Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) I came across a few articles online talking about which offset styles were typically better for certain players in regards to their eye dominance. The only problem is each one of the articles are different from each other. What are your opinions on this? I myself am right hand/right eye dominant and I’m wondering if a certain amount of offset will help my putting. Edited March 17, 2020 by LoganT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishJason Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Well, this has my attention. Right handed and left eye dominant. silver & black, SteveG and LoganT 3 Quote Driver: Cobra Speedzone 10.5 Mitsubishi AV Blue S flex Wood: Cobra Bio Cell 3-4 Grafalloy Pro Launch Blue (low launch original version) S flex Hybrids: Taylormade GAPR 3 KBS graphite shaft Strata 4 and 5 hybrids R flex Irons: Strata 6-PW R flex Wedges: Texan Classics 52, 56, 60 R flex Putter: Odyssey Red Ball mallet Ball: Srixon Q Star Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 RH, left-dominant. A little bit of offset seems to help me "see lines" but I don't think that is a product of hosel types? I've seen a lot of different hosels/shafts (single-bend, double, plumber's, slant) that all have 3/4 to a full shaft of offset. I think the hosel affects the face balance more than offset? https://blog.odysseygolf.com/hoselguide/ M. Parsons, LoganT and THEZIPR23 3 Quote Driver: GT3 Ventus TR Black 5 S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: DF3 x Accra Ball: Tour B X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganT Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 7 hours ago, yungkory said: RH, left-dominant. A little bit of offset seems to help me "see lines" but I don't think that is a product of hosel types? I've seen a lot of different hosels/shafts (single-bend, double, plumber's, slant) that all have 3/4 to a full shaft of offset. I think the hosel affects the face balance more than offset? https://blog.odysseygolf.com/hoselguide/ Yes you’re right I typed it up wrong. It’s actually the putters offset in relation to eye dominance. One article says more offset for same hand eye dominance and one article said less offset so I’m confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Lots of opinions on this topic and as you have found many conflicting advice. From what my instructor has taught me based on his research is that offset has a influence on the stroke. It is related to influencing face to path angle during the stroke. Eye dominance influences how you see the line of the putt and ultimately how you should setup to the ball to see the line correctly. bens197 and LoganT 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 hours ago, LoganT said: Yes you’re right I typed it up wrong. It’s actually the putters offset in relation to eye dominance. One article says more offset for same hand eye dominance and one article said less offset so I’m confused Only one way to find out, BUY EVERY PUTTER EVER! Golf Dawg, LoganT and cnosil 3 Quote Driver: GT3 Ventus TR Black 5 S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: DF3 x Accra Ball: Tour B X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoganT Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, yungkory said: Only one way to find out, BUY EVERY PUTTER EVER! Sometimes I feel like I’m slowly accomplishing this yungkory, Golf Dawg and PMookie 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Dave Stockton addresses this in his book "Unconscious Putting". He doesn't provide a lot of detail but has some interesting observations about putters, eye dominance and grips early on in his book - maybe chapters 3 or 4. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy PMookie and LoganT 2 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMart519 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 On 3/17/2020 at 1:05 AM, yungkory said: RH, left-dominant. A little bit of offset seems to help me "see lines" but I don't think that is a product of hosel types? I've seen a lot of different hosels/shafts (single-bend, double, plumber's, slant) that all have 3/4 to a full shaft of offset. I think the hosel affects the face balance more than offset? https://blog.odysseygolf.com/hoselguide/ The odyssey site is interesting, this is one of the only places where I have read that more toe-hang helps to fix a right-miss. I am RH and Left eye dominant as well, so I like the ball far forward in my stance so I can see the back of the ball more. For OP - I find hosel style mostly visual preference as you can accomplish varying degrees of toe-hang with many styles. I like to forward press and get my hands ahead of the ball but can't look at or aim a plumber's neck. Self-isolation is giving me a lot of time to work on my Putt-Out mat and alternate between my face balance mid mallet, strong arc odyssey 9 style, and slant neck EXO 7 with mid toe hang. I purposely bought 3 models to cover the toe hang spectrum to try and find if one style stood out. The iPing app ranked me directly between slight and strong arc. I'm using a yard stick instead of the Putt-Out hole to play with eye position and see how that affects my aim and start line using 3 very different putters. Starting to prove to myself that eyes inside the ball-target line help me aim accurately and eyes over the ball tend to create pulls. Have ruled out the #9 style as it adds too much face rotation (inconsistency) even after a fitting recommended that style. The only answer is trial and error to see what works for you and suits your eye. yungkory and LoganT 2 Quote G425 MAX Driver & 5W Baffler Rail-H 3H-4H 699 Pro Utility V2 - 4i APEX CF19 6-AW INDI Wedges 52, 56, 60 EAS 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 41 minutes ago, BMart519 said: The odyssey site is interesting, this is one of the only places where I have read that more toe-hang helps to fix a right-miss. I am RH and Left eye dominant as well, so I like the ball far forward in my stance so I can see the back of the ball more. For OP - I find hosel style mostly visual preference as you can accomplish varying degrees of toe-hang with many styles. I like to forward press and get my hands ahead of the ball but can't look at or aim a plumber's neck. Self-isolation is giving me a lot of time to work on my Putt-Out mat and alternate between my face balance mid mallet, strong arc odyssey 9 style, and slant neck EXO 7 with mid toe hang. I purposely bought 3 models to cover the toe hang spectrum to try and find if one style stood out. The iPing app ranked me directly between slight and strong arc. Odyssey is definitely backwards, toe hang putters definitely have a tendency to stay open to the line on the forward stroke before they start to swing closed. As we have such dynamic weight variances in putters, toe hang is becoming less of a factor in the decision making process. For example take 2 1/4 toe hang putters; one weighing 350grams and one weighting 375+ grams and you will get different rotation through the stroke. Also remember that iPing doesn't measure your putters arc, it measures rotation. There are so many variables that impact the stroke, that you really have to experiment and/or understand how the changes influence the results. Essentially what do you change to correct a left, right, short, long miss? tony@CIC, LoganT and BMart519 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesmandan76 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I’m RH, left eye dominant. I prefer a slant neck. Can’t do a plumber’s neck hosel. Not sure about the amount of offset... I’ve used putters with onset, offset, none... the neck style seems to affect my eye more than the amount of offset.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk LoganT 1 Quote Driver: TM M1 9.5* 4W: Wishon bent FLAT Irons: Mizuno MP20MB Wedges: 50/55/60 Mizuno Putter: Evnroll ER2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobotDoctor Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 On 3/18/2020 at 8:57 PM, bluesmandan76 said: I’m RH, left eye dominant. I prefer a slant neck. Can’t do a plumber’s neck hosel. Not sure about the amount of offset... I’ve used putters with onset, offset, none... the neck style seems to affect my eye more than the amount of offset. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I agree with not being able to use a plumber's neck very well. I am RH, left eye dominant and prefer a full shaft offset. I like a flow neck putter. I do not like putters that have abrupt squareness or boxy lines. I also have a hard time with mallet putters, although I have putted decent with a couple of models in years past. bluesmandan76 and LoganT 2 Quote Driver: TaylorMade 300 Mini 11.5° (10.2°), Fujikura Ventus Blue 5S Velocore 3W: TaylorMade M4 15°, Graphite Design Tour AD DI 7S Hybrid: TaylorMade Sim2 2 Iron Hybrid 17°, Mitsubishi Tensai AV Raw Blue 80 stiff Irons: Mizuno 223 4-PW, Nippon Modus3 Tour 120 stiff GW / LW: Scratch Golf 1018 forged 50°/ 58° DS, Nippon Modus3 Tour 120 stiff SW: Callaway MD5 Jaws 54°, TT DG Tour Issue S200 115g wedge shaft Putter: Byron Morgan DH89 GSS custom, Salty MidPlus cork grip Grips: BestGrips Augusta Microperf leather slip on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenGolfer Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) Im right-handed and left eye dominant too and it doesnt really matter to me. Ive used putters with offset and with no offset. IMO, offset or no offset is really just a personal preference. Edited March 26, 2020 by Retrogolfer36 LoganT 1 Quote "I suppose its better to be a master of 7 than to be vaguely familiar with 14." - Chick Evans Whats in my Sun Mountain 2.5+ stand bag? Woods: Tommy Armour Atomic 10.5* Hybrid: Mizuno MP Fli-Hi 3H Irons: Mizuno T-Zoid True 5, 7 and 9-irons Wedge: Mizuno S18 54* and Top Flite chipper Putter: Mizuno Bettinardi A-02 Ball: Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMUGamer Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Good Lord, everyone on this thread is right handed and left eye dominate......guess im the only outlier.....right/right...... Ricey155 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom the Golf Nut Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 33 minutes ago, SMUGamer said: Good Lord, everyone on this thread is right handed and left eye dominate......guess im the only outlier.....right/right...... If it makes you feel better I'm right / right. I have a double bend mallet. Odyssey Tank Marksman Fang. This is designed for a straight back, straight through stroke and is face balanced. sirchunksalot, SMUGamer, Ricey155 and 1 other 4 Quote Driver, TSi 1 S Flex 3 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex Irons, Vice VGI01 Mitsubishi Wiz 60-gram regular flex (6 - PW) VGW01, 50 Degree. Mitsubishi Wiz 60-gram regular flex, Wedges, Snakebite KBS Hi- Rev2.0 54* & 60* Putter, Sacks Parente Drac Center Shafted 35" Ultralight 14-way Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 4 hours ago, Tom the Golf Nut said: If it makes you feel better I'm right / right. I have a double bend mallet. Odyssey Tank Marksman Fang. This is designed for a straight back, straight through stroke and is face balanced. Add me to the list. Right/Right. I have a double bend mallet. Ping Sigma G Doon; face-balanced. Tom the Golf Nut and SMUGamer 2 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtgavigan Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Right/right here. I play a PING Anser TR5, which is face balanced (only Anser model that is). I also play the ball off my left instep and tend to like to set up a bit open to target. SMUGamer and Tom the Golf Nut 2 Quote Titleist TSI3 8°, Xcaliber Avalon 6 tour stiff, tipped 1", C3 surefit and H2 for backweight, D1 SW, 45 3/8", 40g counterbalance weight; PING G425 LST 3 wood, set at 13.5° Xcaliber T6* tour stiff, tipped 1 1/4" 43 1/2", D1, 20g counterbalance weight; Snake Eyes 19° Quick Strike Tour, Xcaliber T6+ Tour Stiff, 20g counterbalance weight; Maltby TS-1 irons, Modus 120x soft stepped once, D5, 2° flat; Cleveland RTX Zipcore wedges, black satin, 50°, 54°, 58°, all 2° flat; Ping TR series Anser 5, 33", 2° flat, 1.5° strong, 75g optivibe at 2" down the shaft and a 12g tourlock pro+ counterweight Srixon Z Star XV, TP5X, or Maxfli Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMUGamer Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Because I'm right/right, I am moving into a Center Shafted putter to give that a go. Consistent with the other straight/straight strokes or face balanced putters...... Ricey155 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Do an Edel fitting… Enough said. flyingwedges 1 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingwedges Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) Right/Left, Right/Right, Left/Left, Left/Right - meaningless if you do not know how your hands, forearms, shoulders, and upper spine work through impact, the proper size of grip, the proper taper of grip, the position of the hands on the grip, the address position you have, or ball position relative to left armpit. As someone posted, get an Edel fitting. Edited November 9, 2021 by flyingwedges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGRI Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I’m right/right dominate, but also wear mono vision contacts. Left for reading and right for distance. Unfortunately the ball tends to be in a no man’s land and I need to consciously focus to get it zeroed in. Was driving me crazy and I just shifted back to a more feel oriented putting style. Anyone else using mini vision contacts and a little bewildered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartrick11 Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Right/Right...give me the flow necks with less than a full shaft of offset please... Quote Driver: TSi 3 10* w/ Graphite Design AD IZ 7X Fairway/Hybrid: TSi 2 15* & 18* w/ Graphite Design AD IZ 7X, AD IZ 95X Irons: P790 4i, P770 5-7i, P7MC 8-P, $ Taper 120 Wedges: SM7 52F/54 S, 58 M w/ Modus 125 Putter: California Hollywood 34" Circle H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haro Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) I used a Odessay 9 Flow neck with little offset. which seems to fit my eye for most of my putting life I felt that I was not rolling it as well as other people with more modern putters and switch to plumbers neck which looks really ugly to me. However if I hold the putter cack hand the neck design actually makes sense to me and looks much better and fits my stroke. I notice that cack hand grip keeps my wrist arched downward and I have been rolling the ball better I don’t believe that eye dominance makes a difference Edited November 12, 2021 by Haro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jweck21 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I'm RH and Left Eye dominant. A few observations I've made over the years: little to no offset is preferred and I need the ball position at or forward of my left eye if I'm going to start a putt in the right direction. Also, I am a non-linear putter (as most of us are even though we will always try to be linear at some point) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeStKing Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Right/Left and I’ve used center shafted and full offset and I get the same results. Most of what I’ve read has always advised right/left should use no offset/center shafted, but I can’t say that has been the go to for me. I have a Seemore Z2 (CS) and and Odyssey 10 2 Ball TT and I put better with the Odyssey (mostly due to better lag putting with the mallet). But I would say that I am very dependent on alignment aids- wonder I wonder is that has anything to do with being Right/Left? Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym; Hzrdus Silver 50 Gram 3 Wood: Ping 410; "Otto Phlex" Project X Evenflow Riptide 7 Wood: Callaway Epic Max 3, 5-7 Irons: Callaway Apex 19 8-AW Irons: Callaway Apex Pro 19 Wedges: Callaway MD4 54, Callaway MD4 58 X Grind Putter: Evnroll ER2v; Midlock and Standard 34 inch with Gravity Gip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankopotomous Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Eye dominance or field of vision or degrading vision only seems to have an effect on how I see the line and where my head position needs to be to keep from subconsciously adjusting the stroke. I putt about the same mechanically with any type putter. Quote Modern Bag: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Mavrik 18* 5w; JPX 919 HM Pro 4i; JPX 900 Forged 5 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S; Heppler Fetch; Ball - MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MollyCyrus Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Right handed left eye dominant and I had a very hard time lining up a putter until I went to a center shaft putter. Zero offset just seems to help me see the line better. I’m actually curious about trying to build a putter with negative offset (I know some exist but am not blown away by any of the existing models). Going to a center shaft putter has really helped my game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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