404yds Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I have four wedges in my bag (46,50,54 and 58), and I have tried to practice so that I dial in on each one of them, but I have noticed that I do not feel comfortable hitting 3/4 swings or full swings with my 58 degree. I rather hit a 1/2 swing with my 54 degree instead of the 3/4 swing (with 58), and a 1/2 swing with the 50 degree instead of full swing (with 58). Not only is the distance control so much better, but also consistently more on target. Anyone else feel the same way, or is this a typical mid handicapper issue? GolfSpy TCB, GolfSpy_SHARK and Shapotomous 3 Quote My longest drive recorded on course is 404 yards. Link to comment
cnosil Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I have four wedges in my bag (46,50,54 and 58), and I have tried to practice so that I dial in on each one of them, but I have noticed that I do not feel comfortable hitting 3/4 swings or full swings with my 58 degree. I rather hit a 1/2 swing with my 54 degree instead of the 3/4 swing (with 58), and a 1/2 swing with the 50 degree instead of full swing (with 58). Not only is the distance control so much better, but also consistently more on target. Anyone else feel the same way, or is this a typical mid handicapper issue? Why do you think it is an issue? Shorter swings are typically easier to control. You need to execute in a way that works best for you. russtopherb, Kenny B, GolfSpy_SHARK and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
GolfSpy_APH Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 hours ago, 404yds said: I have four wedges in my bag (46,50,54 and 58), and I have tried to practice so that I dial in on each one of them, but I have noticed that I do not feel comfortable hitting 3/4 swings or full swings with my 58 degree. I rather hit a 1/2 swing with my 54 degree instead of the 3/4 swing (with 58), and a 1/2 swing with the 50 degree instead of full swing (with 58). Not only is the distance control so much better, but also consistently more on target. Anyone else feel the same way, or is this a typical mid handicapper issue? I could say I am a bit in the same boat. I much prefer my 54 or 50 in a lot of situations vs my 58. However I also if I can like to play for a bit of roll out and feel I have more predictable control with those clubs vs the 58. This means that I have a variety of different swings (lengths) with those clubs. I still use my 58 fairly often, however rarely ever on full shots. Its mainly out of bunkers and that sort of play where it gets the majority of its use. GolfSpy TCB, 404yds, Kenny B and 3 others 6 Quote as of Oct 5, 2024 (Past WITB) Driver: GT2 with Graphite Design AD CQ - check out the Driver Shootout! Wood: GT2 with Graphite Design AD CQ shaft (still love my Cobra F7's) Irons: T Series - T200 5 Iron T150 6-9 Iron Wedge: Toura Golf - A Spec 53,57 or SM10 45,49,53,57 degree wedges Putter: LINK! Full putter shootout incoming Balls: Vice Pro Plus Drip (Blue/Orange) Golf Bag: Ghost Anyday 5.0 Golf bag - Maverick colorway with MGS Logo Other: Vortex Anarch Rangefinder, searching for electric cart, Red Rooster The Root Glove and more Link to comment
GolfSpy TCB Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 One of the handful of things I have focused on this season is controlling my distances on wedges from 100 in. That equates to using a 3/4 and 1/2 shoulders only swings. I am amazed at how accurate that swing is at 100, 85, 70, 55 compared to a full swing with less club. I have more consistet contact with the ball, better face angle and stop dead spin... it has really worked for me to shave some strokes this year. Things start getting a little dicey when I try to pull back on my 58* - especially if I'm trying to hit like a 50% shot... I have stuck a few of those leading edges in the groung behind the ball - but I believe tht has more to do with setup and not trusting my swing to deliver the clubface to the ball. I have also hit several supremely nipped shots that dance around the pin... So - yes... very much agree with your comment and what you are seeing! Shapotomous, GolfSpy_SHARK, Kenny B and 4 others 7 Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment
GolfSpy_BOS Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Count me in too, I rarely hit a "full" swing with my wedges. This year I forced myself to use a decision tree that basically started with my 52* then moved to the 56* only if needed, and then to the 60* only if needed for anything inside of 80 yards or so. According to Arccos I've improved my short game by 2 strokes this season doing so. GolfSpy_APH, Kenny B, sirchunksalot and 4 others 7 Quote Qi10 - Terra Forza White | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | G430 3-Hybrid - Kai'li White 80s SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 Mezz Max | Pro V1x | Vortex Blade | Ghost Maverick Black Ops - Forum Edition | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment
sirchunksalot Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I'm part of the group that will use more wedge for a shorter shot, especially one over 50 yards. Most of the time the decision starts with the 52 degree and I'll move either up or down the wedges depending on the height of the shot I want to hit. I also really enjoy hitting those shots with my set GW, which comes in at 50 degrees and that will probably play in my decision to go 54, 58 with my next set of wedges. GolfSpy_SHARK, Kenny B, GolfSpy TCB and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment
Kenny B Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 My PW is 48º and I use it as my 100y club; I can take a little off it with arms only swing to get around 80-90y. My 54º sand wedge is maxed out at 80y, but I rarely do that; again only arms only. I try to leave the wrists out of it similar to Steve Stricker. I've tried this method compared to full swings with wrists and it's much more controlled with predictable distance. I use my 60º from greenside up to 50-60y and it's never a full swing. I can't say whether my swings are 3/4 or 1/2 as I've never played golf that way; actually my swing is so short anyway, I don't know what is 3/4 or 1/2. I play all shots inside 100y the same way I judge distance for putts; by feel. sirchunksalot, GolfSpy_SHARK and GolfSpy TCB 3 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment
Tom the Golf Nut Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I tried something different this season with good sucess. I have the Sub-70 699 Pro's sets PW and Gap wedge. The GW is 50*, then I drop down to 55* with the Sub-70 JB wedge and then to a Cleveland CBX in 56* Why a 1* difference you ask! Well the CBX has a wide sole and makes it very reliable out of the sand. Its only purpose is greenside bunkers. The JB has a totally different sole and grind. Better out of the fairway and it can be opened up without raising the sole off the ground. I had a CBX 60* in the bag but it could only be used in lush grass. Tight lies or eventight fairways resulted in skulls due to the leading edge sitting up higher. So I put it in time out. The GW will see full swings but the others not more than 3/4. GW is my 100 yard club down to 50 yards and the JB 55* is 80 down to 30. The club selected in the overlap range is dependant on how high I need to hit the shot. All chipping is usually with the 50* But everything is feel. I'm like Kenny,, not mechanical in regard to 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 swing distances. Kenny B, GolfSpy_SHARK, sirchunksalot and 1 other 4 Quote Driver, TSi 1 S Flex 3 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex Irons, Vice VGI01 Mitsubishi Wiz 60-gram regular flex (6 - PW) VGW01, 50 Degree. Mitsubishi Wiz 60-gram regular flex, Wedges, Snakebite KBS Hi- Rev2.0 54* & 60* Putter, Sacks Parente Drac Center Shafted 35" Ultralight 14-way Cart Bag Link to comment
GolfSpy_SHARK Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 This seems like a good thread to jump into after a week hiatus. I could probably use the reminder that my best golf played this years was non-full swings 8 iron down. i love my 52* with all different kinds of swings. Same with the 48* the 2 most versatile clubs in the bag. Kenny B, sirchunksalot, Tom the Golf Nut and 1 other 4 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment
GolfSpy TCB Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lacassem said: This seems like a good thread to jump into after a week hiatus. I could probably use the reminder that my best golf played this years was non-full swings 8 iron down. i love my 52* with all different kinds of swings. Same with the 48* the 2 most versatile clubs in the bag. For whatever reason... when I get past the PW, I start trying to manipulate the club, like I need to help it more with a 9/8/7 iron. Then I get this weird yank pull shot. It is mental I realize, and I haven't spent a lot of dedicated time on it - especially compared to my set PW and 3 Vokeys. But your simple little post there @Lacassem, has me thinking about working on that middle section of irons. I would love to be as consistent at 130 as I am at 100 with that partial swing. It would open up a new world to me on the course for sure... Thanks for the prompt!!! sirchunksalot, Kenny B and GolfSpy_SHARK 3 Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment
GolfSpy_SHARK Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Golfspy_TCB said: For whatever reason... when I get past the PW, I start trying to manipulate the club, like I need to help it more with a 9/8/7 iron. Then I get this weird yank pull shot. It is mental I realize, and I haven't spent a lot of dedicated time on it - especially compared to my set PW and 3 Vokeys. But your simple little post there @Lacassem, has me thinking about working on that middle section of irons. I would love to be as consistent at 130 as I am at 100 with that partial swing. It would open up a new world to me on the course for sure... Thanks for the prompt!!! Tiger woods said it best, irons aren’t distance clubs. I took that this year and it helped a lot. as of late not so much but like I said my best rounds I was swinging easy and looking to get height out of the club. Give me the 150 yard easy 8 iron dart. And like you’re saying maybe as those easy swings get better and better, the full swings transition to. Shapotomous, GolfSpy TCB, goaliedad30 and 1 other 4 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment
Caddie1966 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I like the Tiger quote and need to heed that advice more. Hitting 165 yd 8 irons hasn’t done much for me this season as my scoring avg is up about 1/2 a stroke from last year. Mostly due to missing more greens. I need to dial it back and focus on accuracy and consistency. My approach is to use Ping Glide 60 from green side bunkers only. I use my Ping Glide 56 for everything from 95 yds to the green side. 52 is my club from 96-110. I try to use the 56 with a torso turn and dead hands from 65 and closer but feel like it’s a feel swing and not a mechanical 9 o’clock, 1030 etc. The mechanics of the shorter easy swing will hopefully translate to better swings thru the bag. GolfSpy_SHARK 1 Quote 917D2 driver 3 wood TS2 19 degree and 21 degree hybrids 0211 5-GW irons Glide 56 and 60 degree wedges EXO7 putter MAX grip Pro V1 Link to comment
chisag Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 9 hours ago, GolfSpy_BOS said: Count me in too, I rarely hit a "full" swing with my wedges. ... Here is the thing. A full swing with a gap or lob wedge IS a 3/4 swing. With more loft on the club the more you want to drive down and through the ball producing a lower flight and more predictable distance. You don't want a full shoulder turn and parallel to the ground shaft unless you are trying to do something special like get over a tree or drop a ball just on the other side of a bunker. I think many will find they hit the ball more accurately and (some also farther) with a 3/4 wedge swing. A 1/2 can be very useful as long as you are accelerating through impact. I cringe anytime I hear someone hit a bad shot and say " I was trying to take something off and tried to hit an easy 8 iron". Glengarry Glen Golf: A-B-A A ... Always B ... Be A ... Accelerating. GolfSpy_SHARK, 404yds, russtopherb and 3 others 6 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r Irons: P770 5-pw ... Steelfiber i80r TP UDi 4 ... Steelfiber i80r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Custom 5.1 (no alignment) 33" Ball: '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X Link to comment
404yds Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 So many good comments. I've learned more just reading these posts than anything else. 2 hours ago, chisag said: ... Here is the thing. A full swing with a gap or lob wedge IS a 3/4 swing. I never thought about it this way, but it is so obvious when I think about it. It has also gotten me to start thinking about finding one more partial swing lengths to use between 1/2 and 3/4 (call it a 3/5 if you like), and then find the club for the distance to get more control for anything 120 yards and closer. chisag, GolfSpy_APH and GolfSpy_SHARK 2 1 Quote My longest drive recorded on course is 404 yards. Link to comment
GaryF Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 8 hours ago, chisag said: ... Here is the thing. A full swing with a gap or lob wedge IS a 3/4 swing. With more loft on the club the more you want to drive down and through the ball producing a lower flight and more predictable distance. You don't want a full shoulder turn and parallel to the ground shaft unless you are trying to do something special like get over a tree or drop a ball just on the other side of a bunker. I think many will find they hit the ball more accurately and (some also farther) with a 3/4 wedge swing. A 1/2 can be very useful as long as you are accelerating through impact. I cringe anytime I hear someone hit a bad shot and say " I was trying to take something off and tried to hit an easy 8 iron". Glengarry Glen Golf: A-B-A A ... Always B ... Be A ... Accelerating. It’s been the last 6 weeks or so that I’ve been getting my driver far enough back/around to get it to parallel to the ground, with a lot of success. That has led to the realization that my irons, including wedges, which don’t achieve parallel, is a different swing, or maybe as you characterize, a 3/4 swing. With my wedges, I have ‘that’ swing, but then a more relaxed (perhaps 3/4 of the aforementioned), less shoulder turn swing, which I am the most consistent with. I guess it must be a 9/16 swing. Id like to get that full turn with the rest of my other irons, but just isn’t there, and forcing it seems counterproductive. Shapotomous 1 Quote Driver: Fusion, 9 deg, UST Recoil 450 ES F3/2 430 MAX 4w (5w head delofted 1* with 3w shaft), 7w, 5h w/ Alta CB Soft Regular shaft JPX923 HM 6i - GW w/ UST Recoil 460 ESX F3 RTX6 52* and 56* with Recoil 760 ESX F2 Versa DB DoubleWide : Z-Star Tour Link to comment
russtopherb Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 11 hours ago, Lacassem said: Tiger woods said it best, irons aren’t distance clubs. I took that this year and it helped a lot. as of late not so much but like I said my best rounds I was swinging easy and looking to get height out of the club. Give me the 150 yard easy 8 iron dart. And like you’re saying maybe as those easy swings get better and better, the full swings transition to. My irons got so much better from 7i up when I started taking what felt like a 3/4 swing with a straight arm follow through. Distance and height actually increased and my dispersion went way down. Short irons and wedges IMO should never be full out swings for most golfers. Control over distance every time. Kenny B, GolfSpy_SHARK, GaryF and 1 other 3 1 Quote In my Big Max hybrid bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Halo XL 5i-DW CBX 54* & 58* ER5 Tour S Link to comment
GolfSpy_SHARK Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, russtopherb said: My irons got so much better from 7i up when I started taking what felt like a 3/4 swing with a straight arm follow through. Distance and height actually increased and my dispersion went way down. Short irons and wedges IMO should never be full out swings for most golfers. Control over distance every time. Try telling that to 28 YO me . It is really true though, the contact is so much better and that translates to all the good stuff with height, distance and dispersion. Shapotomous 1 Quote Check out my reviews: G710 Irons Official Review I MC Shaft & V Series Putter Official Review 2022 Forged Tec's Official Review I Nitron Push Cart Official Review WITB: Weapons of grass destruction (link to WITB) Traverse is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by RadSpeed 8* - MotoreX F1 6X SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green U505 Driving Iron 17* - Project X HZRDUS Black SpeedZone 4H - Project X HZRDUS Black 2022 King Forged Tec's 4-PW - KBS $ Tape 130 48 (SM8), 52 & 60 (SM7) - Nippon Modus 125 S ER2VI PROV1X #19 Are you a veteran? Check out the Veterans Golf Association (VGA) Thread! Link to comment
Shapotomous Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Plus 1000% on the comment by @chisag regarding acceleration. Sooo many times i see a bad "half" swing by somebody because they take a full swing length and decelerate at impact causing poor results. Its not 1/2 swing speed its half swing length and accelerate through impact. 404yds, chisag, GaryF and 1 other 4 Quote Modern Bag: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Mavrik 18* 5w; JPX 919 HM Pro 4i; JPX 900 Forged 5 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S; Heppler Fetch; Ball - MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment
TR1PTIK Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Not much to add here other than saying I don't take full swings beyond PW (which is still around a 3/4 swing most of the time as mentioned by @chisag). I can certainly take bigger swings with any of my wedges, but I really need a good reason to do it. I also only carry a PW, SW, and LW. I've learned I can easily dial back a PW and even dial up a SW when warranted. Shapotomous 1 Quote Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment
404yds Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 Does anyone have a training aid they recommend for getting better control of partial swings? Let's say I want to really be consistent on my 1/2 swing, my 3/5 swing and my 3/4 swing - what are the best aids for this? GolfSpy TCB 1 Quote My longest drive recorded on course is 404 yards. Link to comment
cnosil Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 48 minutes ago, 404yds said: Does anyone have a training aid they recommend for getting better control of partial swings? Let's say I want to really be consistent on my 1/2 swing, my 3/5 swing and my 3/4 swing - what are the best aids for this? I am guessing you want to go more mechanical based than feel based since you are looking for aids to inhibit swing length? The TGT trainer might have drills to help you with partial swings so you could look there. Otherwise you could look at setting up some kind of station with alignment rods set to a certain height that you hit when you get to a certain length. You could also simply swing back to waist, chest, shoulders, or whatever in front of a mirror and stop when you think you are in the right position and check in the mirror. the best option might simply be to get a launch monitor and practice hitting specific distances. Generate random numbers inside 125 yards and you have to hit that number on the launch monitor. People will say that the inexpensive PLMs are not that accurate and they probably aren’t, but it will give you practice hitting distance wedge shots within a window that is acceptable for on course play. GolfSpy TCB and 404yds 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
GolfSpy_BOS Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 hours ago, 404yds said: Does anyone have a training aid they recommend for getting better control of partial swings? Let's say I want to really be consistent on my 1/2 swing, my 3/5 swing and my 3/4 swing - what are the best aids for this? I love the Planemate for this. I use mine almost exclusively for those chip/pitch swings and for feels on my 3/4 wedge shots. I feel much more compact and connected on those swings after doing some training with it. GolfSpy TCB, sirchunksalot and 404yds 3 Quote Qi10 - Terra Forza White | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | G430 3-Hybrid - Kai'li White 80s SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 Mezz Max | Pro V1x | Vortex Blade | Ghost Maverick Black Ops - Forum Edition | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment
NM01 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Best training aid is your feel and your eyes. Also a camera. sirchunksalot 1 Quote Link to comment
cnosil Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Just now, RickyBobby_PR said: Best training aid is your feel and your eyes. Also a camera. Can you explain more thoroughly? We know feel doesn’t necessarily translate to what is actually happening. We have seen several member discuss that they take what “feels” like a short backswing but is in reality a full swing. How would you setup the station and is it recorded video that you are reviewing or live video that mimics a mirror? GolfSpy TCB and sirchunksalot 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: Paradym AI Smoke Max HL 16.5* w/MCA TENSEI AV Series Blue Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Render w/VA Composites Baddazz Backup Putters: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe, Milled Collection RSX 2 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
TR1PTIK Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 hours ago, 404yds said: Does anyone have a training aid they recommend for getting better control of partial swings? Let's say I want to really be consistent on my 1/2 swing, my 3/5 swing and my 3/4 swing - what are the best aids for this? Depends on what you need to help you gain control. If you're looking for something to help you with wrist angles or something, then I'm sure there's a gadget out there but I wouldn't know what that is. If, however, you just need a little assistance in gauging what a 1/4, 1/2, & 3/4 swing is and ingrain that, I agree with @RickyBobby_PR in that a camera and some mirror work is most beneficial. I'd also recommend an alignment stick or two which can be placed in or on the ground and on your body to help you as well. One final recommendation is to simply get on the range and develop some feel using one of Tiger's short game drills. Pitch a ball onto the range and try to get every ball after it to either land or finish next to it. This also works as a great warm up before playing a round. GolfSpy TCB, cnosil and sirchunksalot 3 Quote Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment
Tom the Golf Nut Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 When I was working with my wife on her game, I would say take a half swing with her wedge. The results were far from a half swing. She would insist she was at a half swing position but was more like 7/8ths. Then sail one over the green. I would have to tell her to get to 1/2 swing and stop there. Then I would have to grab the club and bring it down to position and say this is half. In many cases golfers do not have a good handle on what a 1/2 or 3/4 swing position is. The best bet is to practice in front of a mirror until it is second nature. Once you have the position down then you can hit balls to see how far the ball travels at that position. Shapotomous, GolfSpy TCB, Kenny B and 3 others 6 Quote Driver, TSi 1 S Flex 3 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex Irons, Vice VGI01 Mitsubishi Wiz 60-gram regular flex (6 - PW) VGW01, 50 Degree. Mitsubishi Wiz 60-gram regular flex, Wedges, Snakebite KBS Hi- Rev2.0 54* & 60* Putter, Sacks Parente Drac Center Shafted 35" Ultralight 14-way Cart Bag Link to comment
GolfSpy TCB Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 3 hours ago, 404yds said: Does anyone have a training aid they recommend for getting better control of partial swings? Let's say I want to really be consistent on my 1/2 swing, my 3/5 swing and my 3/4 swing - what are the best aids for this? Controlling the follow through has helped for me. Not really a training aid, but I find if I commit to the same back and through (1/2 - 3/4 - whatever) and practice until you can be consistent with contact and flight.. TR1PTIK and sirchunksalot 2 Quote Titleist TSR3 9* (A2 setting) Driver - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Titleist TSR2+ 3 Wood - Graphite Design Tour AD UB-5 R1 Srixon ZX 5W Callaway Paradym 4-PW Titleist Vokey SM9 50-08, 54-10 & 58-08 Scotty Cameron Super Select Newport 2.5 2023 Titleist ProV1 Link to comment
chisag Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, Tom the Golf Nut said: When I was working with my wife on her game, I would say take a half swing with her wedge. The results were far from a half swing. She would insist she was at a half swing position but was more like 7/8ths. Then sail one over the green. I would have to tell her to get to 1/2 swing and stop there. Then I would have to grab the club and bring it down to position and say this is half. In many cases golfers do not have a good handle on what a 1/2 or 3/4 swing position is. The best bet is to practice in front of a mirror until it is second nature. Once you have the position down then you can hit balls to see how far the ball travels at that position. ... Dayum, I was a full time instructor and I knew better than to help my ex wife with her game. And the last thing I would say is she isn't doing what she thinks she is doing. Yet with my students I would find the same. I stood in front of them and had them take their club back 1/2 way with me extending a shaft so they would touch the grip with their shaft at that point. Then have them take a full speed 1/2 swing and they would hit my shaft so hard it would come out of my hands if I wasn't holding it so tight knowing what was coming. They were always amazed as they swore they were cutting their swing in half. Like your Mrs, they were much closer to 7.5/8ths but felt like 1/2. As with most things when learning something new, you have to really exaggerate the movement or lack thereof. sirchunksalot, funkyjudge, Kenny B and 2 others 3 2 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'Li Blue 70r Hybrids: G430 Hybrid 22*... Alta Hy70r Irons: P770 5-pw ... Steelfiber i80r TP UDi 4 ... Steelfiber i80r Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/54* MG4 58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Custom 5.1 (no alignment) 33" Ball: '24 TP5x/Maxfli Tour X Link to comment
funkyjudge Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 minute ago, chisag said: ... Dayum, I was a full time instructor and I knew better than to help my ex wife with her game. And the last thing I would say is she isn't doing what she thinks she is doing. Yet with my students I would find the same. I stood in front of them and had them take their club back 1/2 way with me extending a shaft so they would touch the grip with their shaft at that point. Then have them take a full speed 1/2 swing and they would hit my shaft so hard it would come out of my hands if I wasn't holding it so tight knowing what was coming. They were always amazed as they swore they were cutting their swing in half. Like your Mrs, they were much closer to 7.5/8ths but felt like 1/2. As with most things when learning something new, you have to really exaggerate the movement or lack thereof. Yep, #1 rule with a golfing spouse = no advice or lessons unless specifically requested by said spouse, and even then, advise with great care and caution! chisag, GolfSpy TCB, sirchunksalot and 2 others 2 3 Quote DR - Callaway Paradym AI Smoke Max, Newton Motion 4-Dot shaft 4W - Titleist TSR2, Newton Motion 4-Dot FW shaft HYB - Sub 70 949X 21*, original HZRDUS Black 85-S shaft 7W (if played) - Titleist TSR, ACCRA TZ6 7S Irons - Cobra King Forged Tec X, KBS TGI graphite shafts Wedges - Edison 2.0, 47* (bent to 48*), 53* and 57* (bent to 58*), KBS TGI 100 Tour S Putter - Evnroll ER10 ""Outback” Mallet Ball - Maxfli Tour-X CG (2023) or Vice Pro Plus Bags - Vessel / Ghost stand bags Cart - MotoCaddy M7 Remote (without the remote) Spoiler Lots of short game practice has made this a strength; now the driver is causing problems! Link to comment
Tom the Golf Nut Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I was lucky. My wife took advice well and executed the advice well. I was actually impressed once we got past the knowing where your club is part. She became a decent golfer and actually won some events at our club. Eventually she just stopped playing once the kids needed more chauffeuring around between different sports. We each gave up something. I gave up bowling and she gave up golf. She continued to bowl for her "ME" time and I watched the kids. I played golf for my "ME" time then she watched them. GolfSpy TCB, Kenny B and sirchunksalot 3 Quote Driver, TSi 1 S Flex 3 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex Irons, Vice VGI01 Mitsubishi Wiz 60-gram regular flex (6 - PW) VGW01, 50 Degree. Mitsubishi Wiz 60-gram regular flex, Wedges, Snakebite KBS Hi- Rev2.0 54* & 60* Putter, Sacks Parente Drac Center Shafted 35" Ultralight 14-way Cart Bag Link to comment
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