Popular Post GolfSpy BOS Posted October 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2023 The Edison Challenge: Featuring Edison 2.0 Wedges Our picks for Most Wanted Wedges were just released and it just so happens we have one of the contestants in line for member testing! We are very excited to be looking for four testers to test, review, compare and keep two Edison 2.0 wedges. Edison makes some bold claims with their Edison 2.0 wedge, claiming the “Koehler Sole” is the most versatile sole in the category offering a “high bounce angle in the front of the sole with a low bounce angle on the rear portion.” They also claim to be forgiving and better suited to the amateur golfer. “Instead of catering to the needs of tour pros, the EDISON 2.0 wedges were designed around the way you play the game. They have the most efficient distribution of clubhead mass in the category to deliver unmatched distance control and forgiveness for any level golfer – with added spin and more penetrating trajectories a likely bonus.” Bottom line: Edison feels their wedges “deliver more forgiveness, improved distance control and enhanced spin, all without compromising precision, feel, or versatility.” Please welcome and congratulate our testers for the Edison Challenge! @PMookie @Shapotomous @TG8 @Placasse61 Fiveslow, gingerbeast87, ejgaudette and 26 others 22 3 4 Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Jones Trouper R | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PMookie Posted October 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) Chipping and pitching yips Champ of 2022 at your service! Yep, the bane of my golf existence these days!!! I have NO idea how they developed, when exactly, or why, but here I am, the CHAMP! I’ve been golfing for over 40 years, my Dad was a HS golf coach and my favorite days were riding around on the cart during practice being able to drop balls here-and-there. When he took me to play early-on we went to Pat’s Par 3 so I could learn the game from appropriate distances, and only when I became strong enough did he move me to full-size course play. I still remember the day he told me I was ready for my first REAL round! Today that par 3 course is the famous Miles Of Golf in Ypsilanti, Michigan. I still love to go-by there whenever I get back home! Born-and-raised in SE Michigan, first year of college at Kalamazoo College to play hoops, then off to Appalachian State University in Boone, NC, one of the most beautiful places you’ll ever see! I played golf in HS, did play in the Ann Arbor Jr Open one summer, so I liked to play competitively. I absolutely fell in love with Mountain golf in NC. We played an inexpensive course once the snow melted as the course was part of the ski slopes during the winter. Yeah, to this day I prefer mountain golf to any other! I had my first hole-in-one on that course in a tournament (my second hole in one came years later at Fazio Foothills #9 hole at Barton Creek in Austin, TX). I live in NE Louisiana and play as much as I can. A recent divorce set me back a bit, but the course and range is still where I love to go to get peace-of-mind, be active, and be outside. I play most rounds with a former student and player who was on the HS golf team where I coached. I won my flight of the Monroe Open 8 years ago, but have only played in scrambles since. I play a semi-private course and it’s a good test albeit very flat due to the topography here in the Mississippi Delta. I’m a father of 3, dating again, and looking forward to the future!!! I’m excited about this test because I’ve been through a lot of different types and brands of wedges over the years. Most recently I have been playing Edel SMS, and for those who know me on here over the past 10 plus years, y’all know I’ve been an Edel “fan boy” getting to know the guys there very well. As my opening few sentences let you know I need as much forgiveness as I can get right now with my wedges. I’ve REALLY been enjoying my i230 U wedge and have built some confidence with it, so adding a couple more for which I have the same feeling would be great. Shot-wise around the green I’m a bump-and-run guy, it’s old school, what my Dad taught me in the 70s, I hardly ever play a flop, so if I can use the 8 iron and run the ball to the hole I’m going to! I hit the ball VERY high due to overly active hands and arms, so I’m interested to see how much lower my ball flight goes with the Edison 2.0. What would I need to see to bag these babies? Similar distances, increased GIR, lower ball flight, and similar spin. If I can be more “accurate” and hit it lower, I’ll be a happy man. My bag is all Ping until wedges and putter: Ping G430 Max driver, LST 3w, and 4 hybrid, i230 irons 4-UW, 50/54/58 Edel SMS wedges, and Edel EAS 1.0 putter. I’m looking forward to this opportunity, and I’m very thankful to both Edison and MGS for including me! Have a blessed day!!! Here we go!!!! IMG_2023.mov FINAL REVIEW! First Impressions 8/10 I was very impressed by the Edison 2.0 wedges immediately upon taking them out of the box, even the shipping was nicely done especially with the inclusion of the hat! I liked the look of the wedges, the colors, the matte finish, the weight, etc. The only think I didn’t care for was the two-tone finish on the face just because I’d been playing a “single finish” face for years. I liked the dual sole wedge and was familiar with Koehler sole from Scor wedges, and the similar sole on Srixon irons I’d played for years. Aesthetics: 8/10 with the deduction being for the dual color face Feel-wise I really liked the Edison 2.0 on full shots. There was something about the combination of the face and shaft that on well-struck shots it had this “powerful” feel to it! It was addicting! One night at the range I was absolutely flushing everything so I had this feel coming as feedback over and over again. I was hitting to a green/flag and it wasn’t like the balls were going significantly farther than ones hit with my Edel wedges, but it sure felt like they were going 20-30 yards further! When I chipped and pitched I did not get the same feel at all. I actually didn’t enjoy the feel very much around the green and I’m not sure if I could narrow it down to one specific aspect of the clubface. I think I can chalk-up the issue with feel on chipping due to hitting balls further out toward the toe and the head being tilted toe down, but it’s just a guess. Full shots: loved the feel. Short shots: didn’t love the feel. Feel: 7/10 The Numbers 2/10 Ok, here’s where we get down to brass tax. I purposely held off showing my Trackman numbers until the review for a reason feeling it would give away too much of my review if I posted them a few weeks back, so here goes. To start with, the whole purpose of doing a review for MGS is to put the manufacturer claims to the test and see if they hold-up for average Joe’s, weekend golfers, so what I was testing were the claims that these would be more forgiving, fly lower, and spin more. Ok, what did I see? Whether it be on the range, on the course, and especially on Trackman, for ME, not a single one of these claims held-up. I didn’t hit more greens than with my Edels on-course from the same distances. Balls did not fly any lower than my Edels in any situation, and my Edels spun more which was seen both on-course, and on Trackman. There’s even a picture I posted showing how balls were backing-up whether I hit them with my Edels or with the Edison 2.0 but the Edels backed-up FEET further! The minute I got these unwrapped and got to the course I was SO ready to see lower ball flight from ball one! Ball one.. Ball 20, ball 100, none went lower than my Edel SMS! Shocked. I had numerous Edison users tell me it really noticeable so I thought something might be wrong, but the balls off the Edisons never went any lower than my current gamers in any situation. So, here are the numbers from TrackMan: first launch and peak height. Edel 54 launch was 29.1 with peak height of 94. Edison 53 launched also at 29.1 and had a peak height of 102, so 8 feet HIGHER! Edel 58 launched at 30.8 and hit a peak height of 91, and the Edison 57 took off at 30.2 and flew up around 90, so no real difference. SPIN: Edel 54 spun at 10936, Edison 53 was 10312 (624 less), Edel 58’s spin was 11668, and Edison 57 was 11375 (293 less). In summary, with the numbers I saw really the only category that Edison won would be distance, but the shafts were also ½” longer than my gamers. On-Course 10/20 I’ve pretty much already addressed everything I saw on-course when I posted and added pictures, and addressed it above in the previous categories. I will say I thought that on-course full shots was where I would see these shine just because of that powerful feeling I got with these on flushed shots at the range, and with Edison’s claims of more forgiveness. I thought for SURE I’d hit more greens, miss “closer”, see a difference from my Edels, but I just didn’t. Add to the fact that the grinds just didn’t work for me around the greens where I struggle most and these just weren’t for me on-course at all. Good, Bad, In-Between 10/20 The good for me were the looks and powerful feel of the wedges. The bad was that these didn’t perform up to any of the claims made by Edison. The in-between comes down to this… These were not fitted to me at all and, to be honest, I really didn’t think these could beat my Edels for this reason alone. The shafts were too soft from a flex and tip standpoint (KBS Tour S vs my Nippon Modus 130 X), they were also too long at an extra 1/2” over my Edels making it that much harder to hit the sweet spot on full shots and even worse when it was time to grip down and chip around the greens. The Edel fitting is pretty extensive, at least the one I did, and we tried a TON of different shafts and not just brands. We tried various stiffnesses, lengths, weights, etc., we really zeroed-in my wedges for me and my swing. There was just no way the Edisons could compete with that. I would LOVE to have a true fitting with the Edisons, and THEN have them go head-to-head to make it a true test. Play it or Trade it 10/20 After getting this far in the review I think it’s safe to say you all know my answer here… Trade them. They will not be going into my bag, and I probably won’t spend the money on getting Nippon shafts and having them built similarly to the Edels because just the grinds alone don’t work for me. I want to be clear that these are QUALITY clubs! They just aren’t for ME… I don’t want anyone to think I’m bashing Edison in any way, shape or form because I’m not. If one looks up the Edison threads, and looks at the other reviews here they will see much different results, so don’t just read my review and make assumptions. Edison has a free trial program so it’s always best to take advantage of those specials and see how they do for you! Overall Score 55/100 I sincerely thank Edison Golf and MGS for giving me the opportunity to participate in this review, my first of wedges on MGS. I really appreciate being included! Edited December 28, 2023 by PMookie resized photos Josh Ross, GolfSpy BOS, MuniGolfer and 9 others 11 1 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Placasse61 Posted October 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) Placeholder 10/19/23 Who is Peter Lacasse? I am not totally positive after 62 years, but I guess that he is still being developed! He is a loyal friend, competitive to a fault, trained Chef (Johnson and Wales 1981) working in and around the Boston area as an Executive Chef for 8 years. Then I decided to take a Culinary Arts Teachers position at my old High School in Attleboro MA. For 32 years I was a teacher, Track and Field Coach and whatever coach the children needed me to be. I retired from teaching and coaching in June 2020. Only to spend the 2nd semester spring of 2022 as a long-term Culinary Arts sub and back coaching Spring Track in 2023 and beyond! My wife of 39 years Kelly, totally out of my league, is a major contributor in who I am! We have 4 adult children, Candice 38, Mark 35, Jason 31 and Sean 29. Three are married with children, 8 grandchildren, and our baby is still searching for that girl. The first time I played real golf, not just swinging clubs in a field with found golf balls from a local range or golf course, was at Stone E Lea golf course at 16 with a borrowed set of clubs. Then I found a used set of Spalding Elite Irons 2-pw. I continued to play golf (not very seriously for 40 years) mostly playing 2-5 times a year for fun. A 105 average (low 93 Lucky day) and a high of 132 with an eagle from 165. Over the past 5 years I have played more often, and since 2020, have taken a more competitive approach, playing 20-27 rounds a year (once a week). Overall, my average score now is 96 with a low of 85 (broke 90 6 times in the past 2 years 5 this year) and a much more consistent Iron game with some gifted Ping 710's. I have only owned 3 sets of irons the Spaulding’s 25+ years, a boxed set of Wilson staffs on liquidation 15+ years and the Ping 710’s I use now. Pretty much the same with Woods Wilson 1200’s 1,3,5 And Taylor made Bubble shafts 1,3,5. When I Retired I celebrated with a fitting for woods and purchased Ping G410 driver and 3W. I never was much for gear as I felt that it’s the player and not the tools. After getting my new tools I have seen a big difference in good –great contact and am really enjoying the game more. MGS has also helped me with other spies thought processes to enhance the most important part of the game “ME”. I am finding this year that my approach is just okay and is either good or just fair (not terrible) and my wedges around the green are not very good or consistent. I am chipping these days with my 8 iron to bump and run which I am okay at in appropriate situations. I feel unless I am on with my approach wedges or chipping I lose at least 5 strokes a round. I am so excited to test the Edison 52 and 56 with KBS 120 stiff shafts standard lie, because I am really looking to make my short game more consistent with fewer miss hits and more control. Also, to see how it compares to the Ping Glide 2 that I play (48, 54) and the 60 that doesn’t end up in the bag much. With Edison’s claim of a more forgiving club with a much larger sweet spot, for better distance control, “smash factor”, (which I totally need). I hope to also experience similar lofts and spin with the Edison wedges as I get with a well hit Glide. LETTTTS GOOOOOO! Edison 2.0 51*, 55* First Impressions: 19/20 Aesthetics 10/10 Feel 9/10 wedge test Unboxing: 10/24/23 I was pumped when I received My Edison 2 wedges when I got home on Monday from NC. Upon opening the box, I felt they did a really good job protecting the clubs with 6” of well packed paper on each end of the box. It was also nice to see the blades with a black head cover with the Edison Logo, and the cool Edison Golf hat! My first visual impression was of nice, rounded lines with soft edges. I really like the brushed matte look of the metal and the crisp lines of the logo and lettering. I am not an equipment junkie yet, but I noticed the double bevel bottom, my glides have no bevel, and the top edge looks thick but not blocky. The back has clean, soft lines and Overall appearance is pleasing and sturdy. I did find the head a little smaller than my glide 50*, 60* and much smaller than my G710 48*. It does seem a little heavier than my glides, but I am not sure yet if it is the blade or the shaft. I will have a better Idea when I play a round. I do like the way they lie at address with little effort. The shaft, KBS Tour 120 S is definitely thicker than my other wedges but are more in line with my Irons. I like the overall sturdy feel, with backyard swings, as well as a feel of more momentum development with less than full swings. Something I don’t feel with the glides. Again, will test how that feels on the course. The pictures above with the golf balls show the natural lie of the Edison and Glide club heads. Though not flashy, a couple guys that I play with really liked how they looked but you could tell that they did not know the name, and ultimately not impressed. I went to Mr. Greens indoor golf in Ashland yesterday and hit each club 40 shots with the launch monitor. G710 49* 12.0 bounce and 64.1* lie. Avg carry 101.6 total 104.4, back spin 5770 (high 6300, low 4300) Apex avg. 85' and club speed 76.1 Edison 2.0 51* Bounce 21/5 and lie 63.5. Avg carry 94.5 total 99.0, back spin 6672.5 (high 8200, low 5570) Apex avg 60' club speed avg 72.4 Edison 2.0 55* Bounce 21/6 and lie 63.5. Avg carry 80.8 total 82.5, back spin 6345.2 Apex 67, club speed 72.7 The graphs are 49*, 51*, 55* . The 55*graph is missing many of the shots which were closer to center and l-center. Below see the strike zones on the club heads. I am noticing that with the smaller club head, I am seeing less toe shots. My first impressions when using the clubs were overall positive. I like the look at address and how the clubface almost sets itself up. The weight of the club was really different with the first few swings but became more comfortable with each use. I think the slightly heavier club reduced my swing speed (compared to 49*) but the ball speed was at a higher percentage of gain compared to the effort. So far, the Edison claims of greater forgiveness because of a larger sweet spot are true. Giving a more consistent closer to straight shot. The trajectory seems to be lower with substantially more spin, but there seems to be more roll out. I am looking forward to giving them the course work out for the real test results. They also seem to clean up well! Final Review Aesthetics: 10/10 My first visual impression was of nice, rounded lines with soft edges. I really like the brushed matte look of the metal and the crisp lines of the logo and lettering. I am not an equipment junkie yet, but I noticed the double bevel bottom, my glides have a single bevel, and the top edge looks thick but not blocky. The back has clean, soft lines and the overall appearance is pleasing and sturdy. I did find the head a little smaller than my glide 50*, 60* and much smaller than my G710 49*. It does seem a little heavier than my glides but is well balanced and has a nice swing feel. I do like the way they lie at address with little effort. The shaft, KBS Tour 120 S is definitely thicker than my other wedges but are more in line with my Irons. I like the overall sturdy feel, with backyard swings, as well as a feel of more momentum development with less than full swings. Something I don’t feel with the glides. The sound of the ball hitting the club is pleasing, resembling a solid wood bat hit, while also soft to the feel. Overall, with the larger sweet spot, I get the great sound and feel often. Though not flashy, a couple guys that I play with really liked how they looked but you could tell that they did not know the name, and ultimately not impressed. The Numbers: (9/10) Simulator sessions showing average results G710 49* bounce12.0 and lie 64.1* lie. Avg carry 101.6 yds total 104.4, backspin avg 6835 (high 8235, low 5234) Apex avg. 85' and club speed 74.1 Edison 2.0 51* Bounce 21/5 and lie 63.5. Avg carry 97.5 yds total 99.0, backspin avg 8372 (high 11,940 low 6835) Apex avg 60' club speed avg 72.4 Edison 2.0 55* Bounce 21/6 and lie 63.5. Avg carry 80.8 yds total 82.5, backspin avg 8956 (high 12,325 low 6940) Apex 67, club speed 72.7 Ping glide 2 54* bounce 14.0, lie 64.4 Avg carry 80.6 yds, total 84, backspin avg. 5254, (high 8,940 low 4235) Apex 68' Club speed avg 73.9 I am all over the place with this club. Accuracy with the Edison’s are definitely better than my gamers! My “baseball type swing” does not always give me a pure hit. Most misses are towards the toe and the club face does close a lot making shots pull left. With the Edison wedges the majority of the shots were 3-5 yds closer to the target vs my gamers. On average the 51* is about 5 yds shorter total distance, with better carry and less roll out than the 710 49*. The 55* has the same carry with 2 yds less roll out vs the Glide 54*. Both Edison 2.0 clubs have substantially more backspin with 20’ less apex height, but maintaining better stopping power on the green. In addition, when turf is really soft with wet conditions my glide wedges often dig and create chunk shots. I am finding that I have fewer badly hit shots even with non-sweet hits, and shallower divots in soft grass areas. The heavier feel tends to keep me in a more relaxed swing tempo than the Glides, especially in less than full swings. Being a 20+ handicap I have no clue on shaping shots other than by accident, so that is not in my arsenal of tools! On-Course (18/20) I like the feel of more confidence I feel when setting up for shots with the Edison wedges. A sense of relaxation and knowing to let the club do the work on full and down to ½ swings. My overall feeling is that a shot from the fairway or light rough, will be at least close to the green and not in trouble. The smaller club head gives me a smaller target which narrows my focus when addressing the ball. Forgiveness is apparent with slight miss hits, demonstrating similar distance and accuracy to well struck balls on the course. Having more confidence in the clubs, I have seen fewer chunk and scull shots providing greater success on approaches. The clubs have increased my GIR % on average from 11.1% to 19.6% but also putting me in better position to chip (with the 8 Iron) reducing my number of chips by 2. In a recent 9 holes I shot a 40/29 (+4) but what really stuck out was my GIR (3) but only 2 chip shots. When I was not on the green it was on the fringe so very puttable! Though my approach is better I still have difficulty chipping. Around the green “I have the YIPS and HEEBIE-JEEBIES” standing over the ball! Over the past couple years, I will typically use an 8 Iron to bump and run with decent accuracy. I was hoping for a miracle cure with the 55* to help get a flop, but I still have the same issue. I spent some time at an elevated green practicing a couple dozen shots from below with some success but not great. I was also hoping to work on sand play but with the colder weather made it difficult as the sand was never dry. The 55* was better at picking the ball clean but I was unable to test dry fluffy sand. I do feel that with the Koeler Sole (double grind/bounce) will help me in most sand situations. On less than desirable lies, (hard pan, thicker rough and soft turf) my overall contact has been great. I feel my game has improved because of a better approach shot in my bag. My overall score should drop by a couple shots with more regulation greens. The Good, The Bad, The in between (19/20) I really like the look and feel of the club and they seem to be pretty durable and clean up well. Edison is not a name most golfers know and I had only heard of once or twice prior to the testing. In general I like smaller companies with true stakeholders in their product! Shortly after, I went on line to be fitted, Emails were received thanking me for being “interested in the Edison wedges” and if there was anything the staff could do to help. I also liked the money back guarantee if the clubs didn’t fit my game. In addition, when I was selected to test the Edison Wedges, the founder Terry Koehler, sent multiple emails thanking me, telling me what to expect and best ways to test his product! I thought it was a nice touch and helped me to feel trust in the company. Though my clubs arrived last, I feel my order was completed before the stated time line, and in a reasonable shipping time line. There were a few extra nice touches shipped to me such as an Edison golf hat, and club head covers. I also like the fact that it is a Direct purchase from the company. I really am not a fan of the big box stores and root for smaller company success. I do think that more information (tutorial) about lie would have been helpful to me when being fitted. I had no Idea the difference lie angle can make until chatting with GolfSpy BOS, and him giving me a lesson on the subject. It would suggest Edison ask a couple questions relating to the lie, to help better fit a golfer. The price point at $199.95 seemed high compared to other similar wedges for Ping Glide 3.0 $149.99, and Vokey SM9 $179.99. Play it or Trade it? (19/20) I really like that the clubs, for the most part, do what the company claims “more forgiveness, distance and accuracy, with lower trajectory and higher backspin rates. My game seems to be better with the clubs in my bag so If it seems better in my mind, then it is! The Edison wedges should play well for most levels of golfers but I truly feel they will help golfers who struggle a bit making consistent contact in the sweet spot. The smaller club head but larger contact area enables golfers to make good/great contact more often, producing straighter shots with more reliable distance. Conclusion: As a hacker most of my life, my education on equipment has really gained traction over the past 3 years. The Edison 2.0 test has been an educational, fun and positive experience. Terry Koehler and the company were very helpful with insights on the club’s technology and detailed explanations on key aspects of the club face’s expanded contact area. The smaller club head but expanded clubface contact area, bring home the company’s claim of more consistent control of distance and accuracy. I also found the lower trajectory and Apex height of my shots to be beneficial in most situations, while increasing backspin and green holding ability. My tendency to chunk shots in wet soft areas has been substantially reduced, smaller /shallower scalps giving better distance. The Edison wedges have given me additional confidence on set up and when addressing the ball. This allows me to let the club to do the work and not overthink my shot. In most situations I feel the ensuing shot is much more successful than with my gamers. Though I struggle with wedge use for chipping I feel with more deliberate practice, the Edison 55* will become a significant part of my arsenal. . My overall impression is Edison meets their claims of making better wedges for the average everyday golfer. I am typically not a gear person, but understand the value of really good tools and feel the Edison 2.0 are good helpful tools! Final Score: (95/100) 1/12/24 Was able to get my January round in today. Gorgeous day 51 degrees sunny no wind and crystal-clear blue skies. Played well on the front and terribly on the back 48/56. The one takeaway was that I was still hitting my Edisons well with approaches, but more importantly I had 5 really good chips (5-10 yards from the green) to within 10'. I am still liking the feel and more so around the green. Edited January 15 by Placasse61 update PMookie, TG8, NickyBobby and 12 others 15 Quote 4-PW and UW Ping G710 Ping Glide 54 degree wedge 1,3,5 Taylor-Made Titanium bubble shafts (24years) Top-Flite Gamer Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TG8 Posted October 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) Black cyberpunk youtube intro.mp4 Introduction: Hello, my fellow golf nerds and welcome to my Edison 2.0 review! My name is Taylor Goff, yes I know my last name is very fitting, right? I used to get teased at golf tourneys growing up every time they announced my name. I hail from a super small country town called, Belle, Missouri. We are known for the largest Kingsford Charcoal Plant. I was introduced into golf when I was 12 years old. By age 14 I decided to play local tournaments and had a couple wins but my biggest highlights were on our local LOJPGA (Lake Ozarks Junior Golf Association) Series. I played in the LOJPGA Series two years and qualified top 8 each year in my age division to advance to a two-day tourney at Osage National (Arnold Palmer Course). When I got to high school, I was too occupied in other high school stuff and quit playing golf for a solid 5+ years and picked it back up again heavily in 2017. I am now completely addicted to golf and even put in a golf simulator in my shop. But my pride and joys are my Wife and kids. I have been married to my wife for 8 years and have two beautiful daughters, age 6 and 2. My activities outside of golf are church, motocross, traveling and coaching my daughters sports teams. I am 31 years old and for work I am a mobile banking software developer. Family Slideshow below: familyslideshow.mp4 I am a long time member at my local 9 hole course and participate in league nights every Tuesday and also our annual out of state golf trips. Our group of guys are as fun as you will see. We do an annual "Jortsfest Tournament" and also a "$hitfest Match". Jortsfest is a match play or Ryder cup style(depending on year). $hitfest is two teams battle it out for 9 holes where mulligans can be used as much as you want as long as a team member finishes their drink(this gets pretty rowdy). Pic Below: My Golf Game: Handicap: 6 Average Swing Speed (Driver): 112mph Weakness: Putting Strength: Wedges (specifically 90 yards and in) Swing Look-a-like: John Daly (trying to shorten my swing this offseason) Gamer Ball: ProV1 left dash (helps with my high spin) Driver: Titleist TSR4 9* with OG Ventus Black 6X Irons: Mizuno MP225 4-GW Wedges: Titleist Vokey SM9 52 & 56 stiff Putter: L.A.B. Link.1 I am beyond excited to get my Edison 2.0 wedges delivered and will certainly test out their claims/technology. Time/testing will tell if these Edison 2.0 wedges will knock the Vokeys out of my bag. I hit my wedges high and short compared to players around me and Edison claims these wedges are further and lower, so I feel as this could put a huge smile on my face and also lower my scores! Keep following along as I will update this post quite often. Click here to see what’s in the box! First Impressions (18 out of 20 Let me first start by discussing the Edison Technology: Higher CG than any other wedge Meaning: more weight higher in the face(up to 45% more than your current wedges) Benefits: More consistent trajectory, little more distance, more spin and just overall more consistent wedge shots. Also lower ball flight Koehler Sole Meaning: the Edison 2.0 sole combines a high bounce angle in the front of the sole with a low bounce angle in the back of the sole. This makes it less confusing to choose between various bounces/grinds from other wedge manufacturers and also claiming to have for confidence in your wedge shots Benefits: Increases versatility because most of us golfers do not know what the lie and turf conditions will be on our next shot. Great turf interaction and gets through the grass quickly. X-pattern progressive club face Meaning: the face and grooves Edison 2.0 wedges use are pushed as far as they can go without going over the USGA limit. Wider/deeper grooves in the lower loft wedges for full shots and higher lofts the grooves are a bit closer together to increase groove contact. Also to note Edison say the clubhead design has a greater impact on spin than the club face since the USGA has limited the face treatment for 15 years. Benefits: Increase of spin consistency on all types of shots Aesthetics: 8/10 The finish is a very nice satin pearl chrome that I really enjoy looking down at. No glare in the sun or shop lights. The general shaping of the wedge is a bit bubbly and round which I actually think looks pretty nice since all of the edges end up uniforming together. Looking down at address the wedge bounce lays super nice and inspires confidence if I need to open or close that face for tough shots. Color fill for the letters is a bronze color that matches the bronze stripe ferrule(very nice little fine detail). Top line is pretty chunky when looking down at the ball and that is my only point deduction. I understand that the mass being higher makes that hard to fix. Odd number loft badging: not really an odd number guy and would rather see them in even numbers. Feel: 10/10 Feel is great and can tell the 5X forged 1025 carbon steel has a solid but soft feeling at impact. I associate sound to feel as well and they sound just like my sm9 vokeys and are a nice crisp sound which results in solid but soft feel for me. Also noticed on mishits that the feel doesn't vibrate up your hands or make a louder noticeable sound. Mishits are just more forgiving so far for me than other wedges. Here is some side by side comparisons between my sm9 Vokey gamers and the Edison 2.0 wedges: I have had other players ask what kind of wedge I am using. Once I explain the technology they all are super interested in hitting them. But will say they kind of look at me odd when I tell them there is not a standard bounce. SLOW-MO Wedge Video below: IMG_0207.mov The Numbers (9 out of 10) 52 Full Shot Data below: Note: -same amount of shots taken with each, removed noticeably bad shots from data, - same ball model was used for entire testing 56 Full Shot Data: Dispersion: This is super close but when playing rounds I could notice poor strikes seems to not stray off path as bad. So I will give the nod to Edison. Bonus: I had a very high handicap player test these out a couple sessions and I wish I had saved his data but the difference the edisons made in his dispersion was a game changer compared to his clevelands and my vokeys. Trajectory: Edison takes this one but it was not too noticeable without the numbers. Edison’s lower launching claim is real even if my experience was minor. Forgiveness: Edison takes this one simply because I noticed off toe or heel strikes that the spin numbers did not deviate greatly and also the ball stayed on track a little bit better. Spin: Fairly close but the vokeys do spin a touch more. My vokeys used are a season old. The edisons were close though! Spin is very important to me and my game so I have to deduct a point because new wedges should spin more in my opinion. Control: I favored the edisons again! The more I gamed these the easier it was to just focus on my target and not having bad swing thoughts.. sounds silly but the thicker top line grew on me and made me at ease every wedge shot. I knew if I hit them high in the face they would not punish me as much. Workability: I give the nod to vokey but this category does not interest me that well. I am not a scratch player so I keep my wedge shots simple. Point and shoot. The edisons seem to stay straighter when exaggerating a shot shape and that is what I like! The vokeys can ‘sling’ a little better but when doing some slingers I would have a way bigger dispersion. lol My club path was more In-to-Out with the Edison which is great because I am working on that! On-Course (19 out of 20) Day 1 on the course was a bit of a learning curve, I was mainly not used to the different bounce compared to my vokeys. I quickly learned the 2nd day on the course to trust the bounce more even though it just was not the normal vokey look I was used to. The turf interaction was great once I committed to the edisons and then found out that I was hitting them a little bit further after flying over some greens inside 100 yards. I don’t notice any more dig compared to the vokeys. So after a few more course days I was totally digging the edisons but I still had the mindset that I could not swap my vokeys for them. Well after several more rounds with them I quickly realized I was growing on them and the edisons just seemed easier to hit than my vokeys. I still needed that hard data proof to make the switch(I live in the show-me-state Missouri) or I am keeping my vokeys! So after several late night sessions in the simulator and seeing all the data I was convinced that these edisons are just slightly better for my game. On-Course greenside chip comparison: Small Chips: For the small greenside chips in slightly fluffy lies both wedges performed pretty similar so I do not have any complaints. The Good, the bad, the in-between (19 out of 20) The Wet Test: For the ‘wet test’ I dunked the wedges in water right before each shot. Data below: The results: Edison really ran away with this test.. You can see above that it won in every category but spin/ball speed was an impressive takeaway. All those players out there who play in the rain a lot should take note of this! The High Striker Test: This is the one I was excited for that would really test the edison claim of the benefits of the higher CG face. I tee’d up every shot about a half inch to make sure I was striking the ball high on the wedge faces. Test results below: The results: Edisons claims are real again! This one was unreal to me on how much higher the ball speeds were when struck high in the face! We are talking almost 5 mph difference which could be huge on those slight high mishits that would normally knuckle spin and land well short of the green. My course has fluffy fairways and this is so beneficial to see the data! The Bad: Really the only thing I did not like about them is the thicker topline and maybe I would expect a tiny bit more spin just because my 1 year old vokeys kept up with spin numbers. I am really curious how much spin I will lose after gaming them for a season. Hopefully I can remember to update you guys next year at this time. Someone hold me accountable. Play it or Trade it? (19 out of 20) These opened my eyes just enough to game them this year and next. I really did enjoy the process of doing this review and hope to do more in the future! As said before I don’t love the top line but I realize they need that slightly bigger for the Higher CG and that results with great misses. Conclusion I am going to shoot you straight. On my first day with the edison wedges I thought all the claims were too good to be true and you could not pry the vokeys out of my bag… well I was so so wrong about this! The edison 2.0 wedges are going in my bag and all of their claims were true for myself. Some may be small but in the difficult game of golf any advantage I will always try to take! Make sure you give them a try. I think more and more people could benefit from them and I do believe all higher handicaps should use them as my tests have proven they do help! FINAL SCORE (94 out of 100) Edited December 12, 2023 by TG8 Final Review Added Graphic Josh Ross, Shapotomous, GolfSpy BOS and 11 others 11 1 2 Quote WITB Driver: TSR4 9* - GD VF 5x FW/Hybrid: Stealth Plus 15* 3 wood | 18* 2 hybrid Irons: Mizuno MP225 4-GW - modus tour 120X Wedges: Edison 2.0 52* | 56* Putter: L.A.B. Link.1 Ball: Pro V1x Left Dash Tech: Foresight Sports GC3 Tests: The Edison Challenge featuring Edison 2.0 Wedges Callaway Whitebox Testing: Chrome Tour & Chrome Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shapotomous Posted October 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) Introduction Time!! Hello….My name is Bob…. I am a wedge-aholic…putter-aholic…..& drivershaft-aholic. Thank you to Edison and MGS for selecting me as a reviewer and enabling my wedge addiction to flourish!!! I have been a member of MGS since 2020. I forget what brought me to the forum, I think it was research into drivers as that was about the time I was looking to retire the G10. Besides the equipment reviews I found the membership to be friendly and to have the same curiosity about golf gear that I do. The worlds least interesting man....but that's OK since the wedges will be the exciting part of the review!! I grew up in south east PA and currently live in the north east corner of MD where it can be convenient to get to courses in MD, DE & PA. I have been playing golf since the early 1970’s and am currently in my early 60’s. I had the best job ever for a kid that was a golf nut….working at a country club that was a short bike ride from home for 6 years through high school and part of college. I hit as many range balls as I wanted (a few hundred thousand), practiced putting whenever (dozens of hours), play any evening of the week (whenever I didn’t have a baseball game), get free lessons from the assistant pros (they got paid by taking some $ from me via golf bets and cards), try out new clubs, and learn how to do club repair (although refinishing and rewhipping wood heads had a short shelf life!). These days I usually get out to play a couple times per week usually 9 at a time. Elder care responsibilities at home make it difficult to be away for more than a couple hours so 18 hole rounds must be carefully coordinated. Advancing age and aches & pains make it a challenge to stay in the neighborhood of a 4 handicap. My driver swing speed has dropped to the high 90’s and I usually swing at about a 90% effort to limit the possibility of a back injury. I’ve had a putting green in the backyard for 14 years and the yard configuration allows for wedge shots up to 65 yards. So three or four times per week I am hitting 50 or so wedge shots and/or putting for a while. These sessions have helped dial in wedge yardage control & shot dispersion along with my putting stroke which has helped maintain my scoring as I have lost some distance. The backyard sanctuary.... I am always looking at wedges when in a pro shop or 2nd Swing or Golf Galaxy to see if something catches my eye. I have brought home countless wedges over the years and can’t wait to see how well the Edisons measure up to my all time favorites, the 588’s. I used Cleveland 588’s for over 20 years and they were extremely dependable. Due to that familiarity, I look for something that resembles their clubhead shape. Excessive groove wear finally had me swap them out last year for a Sub70 50*, SM9 54* & Cleveland RTX 58* (bent to 57*). I prefer a stiffer shaft in my wedges for a tighter shot pattern. I am vertically challenged and my hands tend to be lower in the swing path so a 2* flat lie performs best for me. These gamer wedges are not up to the confidence level I had with the 588’s. I have not figured out how to get a lower ball flight with them. I asked for the Edisons in similar loft, lie, shaft specs so I could make as direct a comparison as possible. These lofts give me the yardages I need up to the 110 yard mark where the set PW takes over. Two things in the club info on the website caught my eye when reading up on them before signing up for the review - the ‘penetrating ball flight’ and the sole design. I may be reading into it too much but penetrating ball flight to me means lower trajectory. I prefer a 75% swing for better control & want a lower ball flight with that less aggressive swing. The sole design is intriguing for me to try because I did some custom grinding to my 588 gamers over the years to dial in consistent turf interaction with my swing. This dual bounce angle design has me curious! I also expect from the product info on forgiveness they will be more consistent in distance and maybe target line performance on mishits than what I am playing. I will never turn down forgiveness if ‘feel’ hasn’t left the building. Looks will play a large part in the first impression part of the review. I can move past how a club looks if I hit it well but it takes a while to gain confidence and make that transition. I plan to get familiar with the clubs initially by hitting them in my usual backyard wedge sessions. My swing is dialed in to those distances and I can see what adjustments (if any) I need to make. I am also used to hitting the target line about 8/10 times so I can get an idea how they are with dispersion and what my aimpoint needs to be. It is a convenient and efficient way to get in a few hundred swings before taking them to the course for further review. The review will involve a good bit of course testing not only in regular play but with dropping balls at in between distances in varied lies. Our course is not busy this time of year so that will be easy to do. The regular play will test my confidence level in using the clubs with the pressure of real scoring while dropping balls will allow testing in some challenging spots regular play may not find. I also plan to include a couple other golfers in the on course testing as I am playing with them. SWMBO is a 10 ‘cap and a couple other golfing friends are single digit ‘cappers that know their swing and ball flights pretty well and can contribute some data and feel info to using the wedges. The more the merrier as they say! I will also be making use of a simulator to get spin data along with all the other provided parameters for comparison. But I am not a slave to the simulator numbers. I can see from the performance on course if the ball flight is what I want and if the bite when it hits the green is what I need. In my opinion real world confidence in a club to make the single shot when needed is a more complete gauge than repetitive simulator shots that allow for adjustments to dial in a shot to hit a number. Besides me just loving to hit a good wedge, I’d like to have consistency in my wedge set up rather than the 3 makes / models so this review was very appealing to me. If I can get confidence in the look, flight, distance and target line performance they will get a spot in the bag. And if that happens, being a 3 wedge player (in addition to the set PW), I would also buy the third wedge to fill out the arsenal with the same make / model. The 45 yard shot practice spot with the swing I have evolved into.... (58*) swingvid.mp4 First Impressions: 19/20 I had done a good bit of website reading about the Edisons prior to signing up for the test and studied it even more after being selected. So my initial focus at the unboxing was how the marketing claims of a more forgiving wedge with a higher center of gravity would impact the looks of the clubhead. More forgiving usually means a larger head combined with perimeter weighting in a cavity back design to help with off center hits. The higher center of gravity means taking weight away from the sole so an unappealing thick top line may be the result. The higher COG is to allow for a lower trajectory on the shots than other wedges. Lower shot height should result in better distance control. I wondered if the design features discussed in the marketing material would result in a huge clubhead that looks like it could double as a garden implement??? The pictures on the website didn’t look like it, but you really can’t tell until you get them in your hands. I took the clubs out of the box and removed the neoprene covers. Thankfully (for my preferences) to my eye the clubheads had neither of these over the top characteristics and was far from a garden implement! The top line was a little thicker than the SM9, but not too wide. The top line is about the same as my JPX 900 Forged irons. From the top in the pic below is the Edison 53*, JPX 900 Forged PW, SM9 54* & at the bottom is the Edison 57*. Three of the four look similar with the exception being the thinner top line of the SM9. And the back of the wedges is not a cavity or visible heel and toe weighting. It is a clean, solid look without anything gimmicky. As a bonus, included was an Edison hat. One of my two favorite things to get as a gift, the second being a coffee mug! Although I think the hat is sized for a head like Mr Met since to get it to fit properly I had 1/2 the velcro strip past the edge of its mate. The other feature in the design that is prominent in the marketing material is the dual grind sole. It is there to allow the player to have a low bounce option that is more like a regular iron along with a higher bounce using the rear bevel if the clubface is opened up a bit. The bevel between the two grinds is very subtle, arrows in the picture point it out. For a regular shot the leading edge of the sole sits very tight to the surface all across the length of the face. Overall the Edisons made a terrific first impression. The clubhead is not too chunky and the top line is not too thick. The satin finish looks great and is a fantastic match to my Mizuno JPX 900 Forged irons! Aesthetics & Initial Shots (10 out of 10) Right away the Edisons look very good to me set up behind the ball. The face is compact, not long from toe to heel and not overly tall. The forgiveness feature they advertise does not come from presenting a huge clunky looking clubhead that I personally don’t like to see behind the ball. This consistency of the look moving from the irons to the wedges is nice to have in the bag. The three other players (handicaps from 1 – 11) that tried the Edisons also mentioned they look good behind the ball, a nice compact head. It looks smaller than the SM9 I have so I got out the calipers to do some unofficial measuring to see if there is any real difference between them. My measurements are unscientific, I just tried to get at the highest and lowest points keeping the calipers as straight as I could so I wasn’t getting a diagonal measurement. The face toe height of the Edison is about 1mm shorter than the SM9 and the face height at the heel is about 2mm taller on the Edison than the SM9. The Edison top line does not dive toward the heel but the top line curve is gradual. The visual of the smaller head is probably due to the toe not appearing as tall since there is less difference in height from heel to toe. Before taking it to the course I got familiar with the feel, shot shape and distance in the yard. I have a 12 x 24 green that I can hit up to 65 yard shots into from a mat. That translates to about an 80% 57* and maybe a 60% 53* shot. I don’t take full swings with wedges when playing as I have better control with line and distance staying at about 80%. After about 50 shots with each club from 65 yards the initial feel is lighter than my current gamers. The sweet spot was easy to find! A quarter size impact spot is pretty good for me. During a 2nd backyard session before hitting the course I hit about 50 shots from 65 yards with the 57* and had pretty consistent face impact.....at two spots! One centered when I kept my posture correct and one when I stood up slightly that is just a touch higher & toward the toe. The interesting thing was the resulting shot distance was not impacted at all – the forgiveness is REAL. The feel coming off the sweet spot is solid and soft, the sound is a satisfying thud rather than an annoying click. I can feel the difference in the toey miss as it feels like the ball is heavier coming off the face. I am happy with the feedback and the different feel between the toey hits and sweet spot hits. The Numbers (8 out of 10) I booked some indoor trackman time to get data for the Edisons as well as the SM9 and RTX-3 gamers. After a few warm up shots I hit each club for about 10 – 12 shots and I had a pretty good cluster of shots for each club. I did eliminate about 1 outlier shot with each club that I think got misread by the launch monitor, probably because I didn’t have the ball in the proper starting spot. Honestly I would have been pretty happy with most all the shots from any of the clubs. I listed the average and consistency data lines from the trackman data table. The 57* Edison tracks very close to the 54* SM9 in carry, spin & height. I wasn’t seeing any real difference in height data and since that is one of their marketing points I took off 2 points there. Edison 53* Club Speed Ball Speed Carry Total Height Attack Ang. Side Spin Rate Dyn. Loft Average 63.3 67.5 74.9 78.8 46 -2.6 9.4R 8188 41.4 Consistency 1.1 2.1 3.4 3.2 3 1.1 1.6 620 0.9 SM9 54* Average 62.6 63.9 68.7 71.7 43 -3.0 8.4R 8764 44.1 Consistency 0.7 1.4 2.4 2.7 3 1.4 1.7 880 0.9 Edison 57* Club Speed Ball Speed Carry Total Height Attack Ang. Side Spin Rate Dyn. Loft Average 62.4 64.6 69.9 72.8 44 -2.8 0.7R 8750 43.8 Consistency 1.0 1.6 2.5 2.4 2 0.7 1.2 526 0.6 Cleveland RTX-3 58* Average 63.1 59.9 62.0 63.9 40 -2.5 6.4R 9324 47.3 Consistency 1.2 1.5 2.4 2.4 2 1.0 0.5 576 0.6 The swing weight of the Edisons is D5 vs. D4 for the gamers. However the Edisons feel lighter to me when swinging them. The reason for the lighter feel may be the overall weight of the Edisons is 16 oz vs. 16.5 oz for the gamers. On-Course (20 out of 20) We all know these are the scoring clubs and for me it comes down to controlling distance and direction on various yardage shots that are less than full swing to get them in birdie range. That means you have to develop confidence for the swing length necessary and feel for the face control to keep the shot on the target. My goal for all shots 100 yards and in is to end up within 15’ of the pin. Not that it happens all the time but I am usually not happy with just hitting the green with a wedge in my hand. Edison1.mp4 Testing involved a combination of straight playing them as the shots came up during a round and also dropping balls at various distances and lies. This was to test how adaptable I am at distance control and see the interaction from different turf conditions. My shots with the Edisons were noticeably consistent when it came to the target line. I had a slight issue early on with being slightly long on shots but I believe that was related to the loft difference between the Edisons at 53 & 57 and the gamers at 54 & 58. Once I adjusted the shots were mostly within 5 yards in front or behind the pin when hitting from my preferred distance of 80 (53*) and 65 (57*) yards. If I am off those yardages I tend to be a little long but mostly still on line. Edison2.mp4 My miss is slightly toward the toe and even on shots where I had that miss, the forgiveness factor kicked in and distance was not affected. With the gamers a toe side miss usually ballooned and ended up short and right of the target line. The Edisons were a big improvement in this area. The ball flight for me was mostly straight for the ¾ swing I almost always use. When I tested them out on full swings to gauge maximum distance I consistently saw a slight fade. I don’t try to fade or draw wedges, I get better, more consistent results keeping these shorter shots straight. The height of the sweet spot shots is about the same as my gamers, maybe a little lower but nothing drastic. For the green side chip shots I use the 53 as often as I can and manipulate the loft to get as much run out as the shot calls for. I will use the 57 if I am short sided or need to carry a bunker to a close pin location. I had no issues with the sole getting caught in heavy rough or tight lies and gradually got better during the test period at hitting my landing spots and judging rollout. I was able to use the dual bounce feature to open the face a bit when needed and didn’t have any issued drop kicking the club into the back of the ball. The Good, the bad, the in between (18 out of 20) Edison got the clubs out the door to us very quickly and their variety of shaft & grip options can provide a match to a wide range of player needs. They even shipped mine with no grips so I could layer the tape and put on my own grips. A very accommodating customer service experience with quick responses! The website has very informative articles explaining the design differences with respect to the dual sole and the weight distribution that helps keep the ball flight lower. The whole experience was extremely positive. While the satin finish looks great, it would be nice to have a choice in finish on the clubs. I love a raw finish on wedges, I know a few others really like a black out club and of course many like the shiny, finish too. Only a 2 point deduction for this. Play it or Trade it? (20 out of 20) The Edison 53 & 57 wedges definitely have PLAY IT status for me. They have kicked out the SM9 and RTX-3. It was very easy to get used to the look, feel and consistent distance these clubs provided. I was a Cleveland RTG 588 player for over 20 years and these are in every way equal to those for me. The distance performance is fantastic with the slight miss not being penalized by a loss of yardage. Shot after shot would end up pin high and within 15’ of the cup. This shot left a ball mark 2" from the cup and stopped about 8' away. I had others play the wedges for a round to get a variety of impression / performance / feel feedback. The highest handicap of the four that tried them was an 11. They all liked the look and for three of them the performance which at least matched the gamers. The ball flight for one of them was way lower than her current Zip Core wedges. Two indicated they would be looking into the Edisons when it came time to replace their current gamers. One thought the price was too high for their spending habits. Only one mentioned the feel was not to his liking because it was a heavier club than his graphite shafted gamers. But there are a variety of shafts available so he would be able to get something more closely matched to his preference if he wanted. Conclusion From the initial look right out of the box to the set up behind the ball to the forgiveness and to the control over distance and direction the Edison wedges are top shelf and should be on your short list of candidates if you are in the market. If you think the forgiveness factor would have them in a category of clubs only for higher handicaps, that would be incorrect. I had a 1 handicap try them out for a round and he was able to flight the ball as low as he wanted and indicated they had the feedback he needed for working the ball as necessary. I am a 4, I use ¾ swing shots for my wedge play and don’t try to work the flight like he does and I had no issue developing the feel for distance control. I benefitted from the forgiveness on my occasional slight toe side miss. There was no loss in distance and the direction remained true. Around the green I use the 53* and open & close the face as needed for the type shot I want. The dual sole works well for this strategy and I quickly gained confidence in executing the shots and hitting the landing target. I am extremely happy with how quickly I connected with the feel for the clubs and I am proud to say they have displaced the SM9 and RTX-3 from my bag. Final Score (95 out of 100) Edited December 12, 2023 by Shapotomous Josh Ross, cnosil, sirchunksalot and 15 others 16 1 1 Quote Modern Bag: G410 LST 10.5*, Hzrdus Smoke RDX 6.5 Flex; 915F 3w, Diamana S+ 70 S flex; Snake Eyes 18* 2h, 23* 4h & 27* 5h; JPX 900 Forged 6 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Edison 2.0 49*, 53*, 57* KBS Tour 120 S; Heppler Fetch; Ball - MTB-X; Bag - Jones MyGolfSpy Edition! Shot Scope H4, MG600 Rangefinder Classic Bag: Driver - Persimmon; 3w - Speed Slot; 5w - Tour Block; 3 - pw - Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy BOS Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 Edison 2.0 Wedge Member Testing Review - BOS edition We’re back for another BOS edition review. This time I was fortunate to be able to put the Edison 2.0 45* PW through its paces to see if it lives up to the claims of a lower, more penetrating ball flight. The CG and unique design of the Edison 2.0 should have a higher level of forgiveness versus a traditional design to add up to more accurate wedge play and better strokes gained on the course. For those of you who don’t know me; Hi! I’m Bryan, or as I’m better known around these parts, GolfSpy BOS. I’m a 36 year old single digit handicap with hopes and dreams of getting to scratch and about 1/18th the time required to put in the practice to do so. When I’m not golfing or dreaming of golfing I can most likely be found on some youth sports field or carting one of my three wonderful children around to some activity. Thankfully, my oldest has already taken to the sport and my other two have shown interest as well! So, It seems I will have some built in golf-buddies for life. But enough about me, onto the review! First, thank you to Edison for including a wedge for me to use on this review. I am excited to take the 45* PW and put it toe-to-toe against the Edel SMS Pro PW currently in the bag. First Impressions - 10/10 Edison does an above average job with the unboxing experience and first impressions where some of the big OEMs may want to take note. The box is Edison branded which is always a nice touch and my wedge shipped wrapped in plastic and with a Edison branded neoprene iron cover. While I wouldn’t use them out on the course this was a nice touch and a little added protection during shipping. I am actually a fan of a little “patina” or “chatter” on the clubs so once I start playing them. But enough about the box… it’s a nice touch, but it’s the dinner roll, not the meat and potatoes. Thankfully, the filet mignon of this review was surprisingly up to par as well. It’s time to talk about the Edison 2.0 Wedge itself now! Aesthetics - 8/10 I don’t know how else to really say this, but I was so pleasantly surprised when I slid the aforementioned neoprene cover off the wedge and got my first real life look at the Edison 2.0 PW. It so far exceeded the expectations I had for it from the stock photos online. Is it different? Yup. Is it ugly? Not at all. It is a wonderfully and purposely sculpted tool with top notch finishing and crisp clean lines, printing, and paint-fill. The custom ferrule with a matching gold ring is a nice touch too. The body is a satin and brushed finish that creates a clean and glare-free surface no matter how you have the wedge in your hand. I think it’s also important to note that the wedge was much more compact than I was expecting for something toting extreme forgiveness as this is. It looks perfectly at home sitting in between my MG3 52* and my Edel SMS Pro. The Koehler Sole is well executed and can be seen easily if you get the light right and actually looks very similar to the leading edge of the SMS Pro, so I anticipate it will play well for me too. The last thing I want to touch on is how good it looks in the address position. Down by the ball I could not see anything that would suggest I wasn’t playing a traditional wedge design. There was nothing off-putting in terms of top-line, shape, or offset. I genuinely feel that this wedge looks so much better in person that anyone who is interested but concerned with the aesthetics should really give it a try, you might just be as surprised as I am. The Numbers - 20/20 When it comes to numbers there were a few things I wanted to focus on. Based on the design of the Edison 2.0 Wedge I was supposed to see three main things; Consistency in Smash factor, High Spin, and a low, penetrating launch angle. In order to determine how accurate these statements were I hit balls on several different occasions with the Edison 2.0 Wedge against my gamer. I compared all the data and found that the Edison PW really did perform up to Edison’s claims (The AW in these comparisons is the Edison vs my Gamer PW). My smash Factor was equal to my gamer PW while maintaining less variation from shot to shot. Nothing to complain about there. On to everyone’s favorite wedge test; Is it “high spin?” Yes it is. As a reminder, I am testing the 45* PW variation of the Edison 2.0 Wedge. From what I’ve read about wedges, spin at that loft is going to have to do a lot more with dynamic loft and other impact metrics than grooves and face friction tech. However, I still did notice an increase in spin of about 200-300 RPM versus my gamer PW. I have to believe this is due to the higher center of gravity inherent in the design of the wedge. This would lead to a little more spin from the gear effect alone, if all else is equal with my strikes. Last, but not least, we have launch. The Edison PW consistently launched lower on average by about a full degree. It was still plenty workable, as I was able to hit high towering shots if needed, but the default shot was a bit more penetrating than that of my gamer PW. Combine that with the consistent smash factor and high spin and we've got a winner in our hands! On The Course/In The Garage (Hey, it’s late Fall/early Winter in MA!) - 18/20 Due to a few factors, I’ve had more time on the Rapsodo in the garage than outdoors with the Edison 2.0. This has allowed me the freedom to quickly change targets and also get extended periods of work with the PW to compare against my gamer. What I saw, particularly in range sessions, is that my strike moved around more than my gamer. I would relate that more to shaft selection than head design. Despite the varying impact location my dispersion and accuracy was consistently better with the Edison over my gamer PW. It was hard to believe at first, but it has happened more than once so I think there is something to it that I will continue to monitor. Here are the results of one range session where you will clearly see greater variance of impact location, but also tighter dispersion down range according the Rapsodo read out. The fact that I saw that much of a tighter dispersion in both depth and width was shocking to me. I mean who wouldn't want to be over 30% more accurate? going from 31 yards of distance dispersion to 18 is the difference between being around the flag for a makable birdie putt or possibly being off the green long or short. The Good, The Bad, The In Between - 17/20 I think there can be great benefits from shopping with a smaller specialty equipment manufacturer. Customer service appears to be top notch and Terry Koehler has clearly put a great deal of thought into the design of this wedge. Even they note that large OEMs are starting to take notice and move mass up higher in the wedge head. They also have a top notch trial program of 30 days which I have not seen elsewhere from an OEM. I think that speaks volumes to their confidence in the Edison 2.0 Wedge. I think at the PW loft some of the selling points are a bit more tricky unless you happen to be someone that is looking for 4 specialty wedges in the bag. But as a type that out, if the accuracy and dispersion continues to be tighter than my gamer PW perhaps it’s exactly what I should be considering. I think the Koehler sole would be a good fit for me in the scoring wedges, but given my swing I think I’d like to see a “full” sole option for lower lofts. I didn’t face any particularly soggy or soft conditions yet, so that is TBD. If I had any recommendations for improvement I would ask Edison to build out their shaft offering a bit. It does seem they are able to custom order some shafts if needed, but seeing some of those options and pricing within the checkout tool would make for a much easier purchase. Oh, and since I’m asking nicely, I’d love to see a bronze or black finish option as well. I just love to see a darker finish on my wedges, so having an option there would be awesome. I think it’s also worth noting that I’m starting to see Edison Wedges with some fitters. My local fitter posted a story on Instagram and I noticed an Edison 2.0 Wedge. I think that’s a great next step to see if the Edison brand can make its way into more bags. Play It or Trade it? 17/20 I will continue to evaluate this PW and see if it could somehow replace my PW from my iron set. While that is a tough hill to climb, I will certainly look at what Edison has when it comes time to replace my MG3 wedges. If the PW does find a permanent home in the bag I will likely need to reshaft it as I am not super consistent with the KBS tour 120. I’d consider dropping in a SteelFiber i110s and seeing how that helps with face impact consistency, or going to the Tour Issue S200 I have in my MG3 wedges as well. Overall Total 90/100 The Edison 2.0 Wedge is different, but it also appears that different equals better in this equation. I saw a more accurate, penetrating, and consistent club versus my gamer on both full and partial shots. You owe it to yourself to take the Edison challenge and use their 30 day trial to see if the Edison 2.0 Wedge is the one for you. GolfSpy AFG, Josh Ross and Shrek74 1 1 1 Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Jones Trouper R | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolferDad66 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Looking forward to hearing about all the results! sirchunksalot and cksurfdude 2 Quote Cobra Drivers and Callaway Irons and Wedges. Still looking for the right Putter and Hybrids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parshooter36 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Congrats to the testers. sirchunksalot and cksurfdude 2 Quote Driver: QI10 Max Fairway: Sim2 Max 3HL Fairway: G425 Max 9 Wood Hybrid: 2020 CLK 5 Hybrid Hybrid: 0317 6 Hybrid Irons: ZX4 7-PW Wedges: CBX Zipcore 46° 50° 54° & 58° Putter: Array F-3 Ball: Q-Star Tour Yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvizble1 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Congrats, good luck and lower scores to all!!! sirchunksalot and cksurfdude 2 Quote Maybe I should try playing left handed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matumbo Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Congrats testers! These wedges look awesome! Can’t wait to read what you think of these. sirchunksalot and cksurfdude 2 Quote Golfing for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Awesome! Looking forward to @PMookie thoughts on these v Edel. TG8, cnosil, cksurfdude and 3 others 6 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulligan09 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Can’t wait to hear feedback sirchunksalot and cksurfdude 2 Quote Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSauer Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Congrats, gang! cksurfdude, TG8 and sirchunksalot 3 Quote Driver: Aerojet 9* | Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Fairway: G410 3W 13* | Alta CB 65 Hybrid: TS2 18* | Tensei AV Blue 70 S Hybrid: iCrossover 20* | Kai'li White 80 Irons: P790 5-PW | DG S300 Wedges: Vokey SM9 | 52, 56, 60 | DG S200 Putter: Link.1 | Accra x LAB --- LAB Golf Link.1 Review --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerBooth Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Congrats to all. Be interesting to see this testing opportunity. cksurfdude and sirchunksalot 2 Quote Driver - Mavrik w/ Aldila Rogue White 130MSI 60X 3-Wood - RocketBallz 3 HL Hybrid - Apex 2 w/ Kuro Kage 65g Stiff Irons - Steelhead XR's w/ KBS Tour-V 90 - 5-PW, AW - Stiff Wedges - Kirkland Signature 52*, 56*, 60* Putter - Spider S #1 Platinum/White Grips - Golf Pride Tour Velvet Midsize Ball - Srixon Z-star.....Q-Star in Spring and Fall Jeremy Booth Swing easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Ross Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Let's go!! Excited to work with you guys on this! sirchunksalot, JerBooth, GolfSpy SAM and 1 other 2 2 Quote In my Lux XV Cart Bag: Driver: RADSPEED XB PTC 10.5° Fujikura Speeder Evolution 661 VII Stiff Utility: Apex UW 17° and 19° Project X HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 70 6.0 4 Hybrid: KING LTDx 21° KBS PGI 85 Stiff Irons: ZX5/ZX7 Project X LZ 6.0 Wedges: 2.0 49°, 53°, 57° Project X LZ 6.0 Putter: L.A.B. DF3 34"/67° Ball: Tour (Thanks MGS for allowing me to test these!) Check out my Official MGS Reviews Below! LX5 Watch - Link Here! Tour and TourX Golf Balls - Link Here! Approach S70 Watch - Link Here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Congrats Team! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk sirchunksalot and cksurfdude 2 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek74 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 4 hours ago, GolfSpy BOS said: The Edison Challenge: Featuring Edison 2.0 Wedges Our picks for Most Wanted Wedges were just released and it just so happens we have one of the contestants in line for member testing! We are very excited to be looking for four testers to test, review, compare and keep two Edison 2.0 wedges. Edison makes some bold claims with their Edison 2.0 wedge, claiming the “Koehler Sole” is the most versatile sole in the category offering a “high bounce angle in the front of the sole with a low bounce angle on the rear portion.” They also claim to be forgiving and better suited to the amateur golfer. “Instead of catering to the needs of tour pros, the EDISON 2.0 wedges were designed around the way you play the game. They have the most efficient distribution of clubhead mass in the category to deliver unmatched distance control and forgiveness for any level golfer – with added spin and more penetrating trajectories a likely bonus.” Bottom line: Edison feels their wedges “deliver more forgiveness, improved distance control and enhanced spin, all without compromising precision, feel, or versatility.” Please welcome and congratulate our testers for the Edison Challenge! @PMookie @Shapotomous @TG8 @Placasse61 Congrats to our most recent testers! I look forward to hearing about these wedges and the gains they may give you. Best of luck. sirchunksalot and cksurfdude 2 Quote In My Sun Mountain C-130 'merica Cart Bag: Driver: Stealth+ Rocket 3W, 13.5* turned down to 12.75*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Red RDX, 75g Fairway: 949x 3w, 15*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Red RDX, 70g Fairway: 949x 5w, 18*, Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Blue RDX, 60g Hybrid: 939x 4H (21*), Stiff HZRDUS Smoke Black, 90g Irons: 101's, 5-PW, DG120 S300 Wedges: 286 @ 50*, JBFG @ 54* & 60*, DG120 S300 Putter: 002 Mid-Mallet @ 35", Super Stroke Pistol GT 2.0, Desert Camo Ball: Tour & Testing Vero X1 Technology: H4 w/ Tags, Pro L2 Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbern Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Congratulations testers! I’m excited to read about your experiences between these and the traditional wedges most of us have been using! Have fun! sirchunksalot and cksurfdude 2 Quote WITB (link to detailed post here): Driver: LTDx 9* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) Fairway metals: 3W TSR2 14.25* (ProjectX BlueSmoke Stiff) | 5W Gen4 0341XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75 S) Hybrid: 4H Gen4 0317XF (Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 75HY S) Irons: 659 CB 5-AW (Project X Rifle 6.0) Wedges: 286 54* & 58* (KBS Tour 120 S) Putter: AL-6 armlock | Unofficial review here Ball: pro drip: red & blue | Tour S Pushcart: 4.0 | '23 MGS Clicgear 4.0 Pushcart Tester | Link here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RwsGolf1 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Great! Look forward to analysis of these wedges and comparison to others on the market today, cksurfdude and sirchunksalot 2 Quote A former plus handicapper who must settle for mid 70s to mid 80 scores today. After taking 10 years off due to back issues, my driver length has decreased by 40 yards on average. I look forward to any training aids, shaft improvements, club enhancements to get back part of what was lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestExpress Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Congrats all! I'm replacing all of my wedges, so give a good review! Shapotomous, sirchunksalot and cksurfdude 3 Quote Current bag: TaylorMade r7's Nike Sasquatch v1 Odyssey white hot v2 Garbage fairway woods that need replaced. New gear: hunting for that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TG8 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 So pumped this morning! I never thought id get lucky enough to test. Cannot wait! bens197, sirchunksalot, Shapotomous and 6 others 3 2 4 Quote WITB Driver: TSR4 9* - GD VF 5x FW/Hybrid: Stealth Plus 15* 3 wood | 18* 2 hybrid Irons: Mizuno MP225 4-GW - modus tour 120X Wedges: Edison 2.0 52* | 56* Putter: L.A.B. Link.1 Ball: Pro V1x Left Dash Tech: Foresight Sports GC3 Tests: The Edison Challenge featuring Edison 2.0 Wedges Callaway Whitebox Testing: Chrome Tour & Chrome Tour X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dweed Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Congrats to all. Enjoy, have fun, and test well. Looking forward to your reviews. cksurfdude and sirchunksalot 2 Quote D- Ping G 400 SFT 16*- Adams Tight Lie 19*- Adams Tight Lie 4H- Ping G 400 5-U- Ping G 400 SW- Nike 56*- Ping Glide 2 P- Sub70 004 Mallet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BEN Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Congrats to the testers! cksurfdude and sirchunksalot 2 Quote WITB: D: QI-10 core 9* Ventus Blue TR Velocore 6x 3w: Brnr mini driver 13.5 S 3h: G430 19° Tour 2/Stiff 7W: 21° Rogue ST Max LinQ 7X 5i-6i: ZX5 MKII Project X 6.0 7i-PW: ZX7 MKII Project X 6.0 50°, 54° & 58°: Glide Forged Pro P: White Hot Versa DW Ball: Tour BX mindset Bag: Ghost MGS Anyday 14 way "And so, we beat on, boats against the current, borne ceaselessly into the past." - Fitzgerald ” The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep.” - Frost "That you are here—that life exists and identity, That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse." - Whitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegan_Golfer_PNW Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Way to go testers. Don’t let general relativity fool you as you should only judge this relative to one’s self. cksurfdude and sirchunksalot 2 Quote Follow my journey to enjoying golf and going low Driver: Epic Max LS Ventus Black 6x 44.5" 3wHL: Rogue ST LS 75x Tensei AV Blue w/ xlink 7w: Apex UW 21* MMT 80S DI: Caley 01X 18* with KBS PGH Stiff plus 95g 4-AW: 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 3/4" long, Soft stepped, MOI matched Wedges Zipcore Putter: L.A.B. Directed Force 2.1 69*/35" in blue Ball: TBD Shot Tracking: Bag: Vessel VLX 2.0 Grip: Lamkin Sonar + Midsize My Reviews: Caley 01X Driving Iron Review 2023 Max Swing Speed Training and Speed Progress: Current Speed 120 in the MGS Speed Challenge (updated 3/15/23) TAIII #2 Review here: TAIII Impact #2 Putter ) Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) 0211 2019 Unofficial Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy AFG Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Congrats testers! sirchunksalot and cksurfdude 2 Quote Driver: TSR2, Ventus Blue 6 S, 65g Stiff FW: TSR2 3w, 15, Ventus Blue 7 S, 70g Stiff Hybrids: Apex Pro 3H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Stealth DHY 4H, Ventus Blue 8 S, 80g Stiff Irons: SMS 5-6, SMS Pro 7-PW, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Wedges: SM9 48 F Grind, 52 F Grind, 56 M Grind, Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff Putter: Sri-Hot 5K Triple Wide, Stroke Lab shaft Ball: Pro V1 Click here for my HONMA TR20 Official Review! Click here for my Arccos Caddie Bundle Official Review! Click here for my Edel SMS & SMS Pro Irons Official Review! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Congratulations spies! Have fun with the testing. sirchunksalot and cksurfdude 2 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy BOS Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 To our testers @Placasse61 @TG8 @Shapotomous and @PMookie .... we're having some server issues this morning so we cannot yet send out our official email message. @GolfSpy SAM and I will be in touch regarding addresses and fitting results soon. Josh Ross, TG8, GolfSpy_KFT and 4 others 7 Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Jones Trouper R | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Hall Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Congratulations testers…enjoy the new wedges! Looking forward to reading the reviews throughout the test. cksurfdude and sirchunksalot 2 Quote TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Driver TaylorMade Stealth 3 wood Titleist U510 Hybrid (3H) TaylorMade Tour Preferred CB Irons Vokey SM8 Wedges (52/56/60) Odyssey Ai-ONE 7S Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 CONGRATS!!! all testers both new and old! And if -anything- were to replace my trusted CBXs it might be these, so will be following along .. including you Mr @Placasse61 .. give 'em a good run!! sirchunksalot 1 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... Driver...Callaway Paradym (Aldila Ascent PL Blue 40/A) 5W...Callaway Great Big Bertha (MCA Kai'Li Red 50/R) 7W...Tour Edge Exotics EXS (Tensei CK Blue 50/R) 4H...Callaway Epic Super Hybrid (Recoil ZT9 F3) 5H...Callaway Big Bertha ('19) (Recoil 460 ESX F3) 6i-GW...Sub 70 699 V2 (Recoil 660 F3) 54°, 60°...Cleveland CBX2, CBX 60 (Rotex graphite) Putter...EvnRoll ER5 or MLA Tour XDream (P2 Reflex grips) ...all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Ball often, not always, MaxFli Tour. Forum Member tester for the Paradym X driver (2023) Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Murphy Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 Looking forward to hearing how the 60 works out / compares sirchunksalot 1 Quote Murphy, Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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