Full Swing Kit Launch Monitor -Unofficial Review by CG2

[Golfspy_CG2]

I recently researched all the current top tier personal launch monitors out there.   Did a deep dive on The following

Full Swing Kit 

Bushnell Launch Pro

Golfzon  Wave 

MEVO+ 

MLM2Pro (currently own)

Garmin R10 (currently own)

I spent hours over several weeks reading and watching reviews and talking to current owners  

One of the first things you have to decide is   Are you going to use it more outside or inside.   For me it will be primarily outside on the range  and on course.   That is where most of the use of my two current models have been used.  I did some inside simulator last winter but not a lot   

As you probably know there are two types of systems, Radar based-MEVO+ -MLM2 - R10 and Full Swing and the OG Trackman are radar based.  They have different types of radar but they all follow the entire flight of the ball. Which makes them great for outdoors.
 

 Camera based are Bushnell Launch Pro -GC3-Snytrack+ and the top of the line GC Quad.  They use a varied amount of cameras to take extremely high speed pictures  from the side view of the ball just after impact.  They can also pick up the club-head just before impact. They use those images to calculate all the metrics of the shot.   Since they don’t and can’t track the ball flight they are best used indoors where the ball flight is limited.   

However they can both be used effectively inside or outside with the proper setups.  Radar systems typically ally need the Callaway balls that are designed for the MLM2 and Titleist makes a Radar Capture Technology ball that is able to track enough spin data in the 8-10 feet of indoor flight to calculate some pretty accurate data  

So that’s the two systems.  You will need to evaluate for yourself which would work best for your

i decided on the Full Swing Kit   My informal review will start below.  If you want to know specific reasons for my choice of Radar based or for choosing the FSK, I’ll do my best to answer in the following posts.

Please ask away with any questions.

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[Golfspy_CG2]

 

I  got the FSK this week, charged it up and downloaded the apps to both my I phone and I pad.   Late in the day in 40 degree and windy temps I couldn't resist and took it out.  Only about a dozen balls, but wanted to get the hang of it before putting it to the test against our Trackman.  So better weather on Friday near 55 slight breeze and sunny.   But went out with the FSK and our Trackman along with our Director of Golf, our Director of Instruction and our Assistant Superintendent, all three of them very good players, and then me to show the other end of the spectrum.

  

The TLDR if you don't go past this, the FSK held it's on with all three of us against Trackman!!

 

Corey our  Director of Instruction was really really impressed with it, quoting him "I could teach off this very easily"  All the data numbers were spot on-and it out lasted his Trackman battery wise--details below on some results.  He was literally blown away, he told me,  "This is by far the best devise you've had of al them.  Note: I currently have the MLM2 and Garmin R10 and had a basic MEVO and SC200  previously.   

  

We all  have varying Swing Speeds,  mine with 7 iron is in the low to mid 70's, our Director of Golf is around 93 and our Assistant Super maybe 87 to 88. 

 

Our DOI is currently nursing a bad shoulder and didn't hit any shots.  

Below are some screen shots of dispersion and shot summary.  Dustin’s,  from SW, 7I, 5W and Driver and you will be able to see how helpful those are in seeing if the gaps are proper.  The screenshots of both our summary's show a pretty consistent gapping for us.   Just on different levels...ha

 

Everyone loved the unit.

It was easy to set up and line up properly.  

 

The display on the screen was easy to read for everyone no matter where they stood

The I pad displayed all the data points very well and really very accurately from what we all know of our numbers.  There were some occasional spin numbers that seemed out of whack.  But we can probably attribute this to our ranger balls...you know what they say about fitting with range balls.  It even happened a few times this year with the OEM during fitting days with their trackman and GC Quads.  But I'd say 90% at least of he shot registered an appropriate spin rate   

 

All the ball data matched the Trackman with mere decimals, see the one screen shot below.  The Trackman battery died after a bit due to it also be used before our session in a lesson with a student.  I joked with the DOI that the FSK still had 75% battery after almost an hour of use.  

The club data was spot on as well.  I have a fairly consistent out to in club path and I counter that with a fairly shut face at impact so my face to path is not usually far off, resulting i a fade that starts left and usually ends up not too far off the center line.  This held to form on the FSK data points for each of those.

 

It was tough to compare those to the Trackman data pints as they had to sit on slightly different angles, we with the positioning a few times with putting the trackman behind the FSK but then it didn't pick some of the metrics. we tried overlapping them a bit then the FSK was off a bit.  So it safe to say it's nearly impossible to get both units on the same exact aiming point at the same time.   But when I took the FSK away and tooks some swings only on Trackman lined up properly the club numbers were pretty much spot on as well.  

 

I didn't' really get any pictures of the unit itself set up, just screen shots.   I'll work on that aspect next time. 

 

The FSK is very easy to carry and comes in a very nice and sturdy hard case with handle, that made carrying it to the range very easy.  I was ALMOST able to put my  Pad in the case as well but it was pretty tight and I didn't want to break the screen on it.   

Shot dispersion for Dustin.  
 

 

Here is data on Josh’s our Director of Golf 7 iron  Trackman on Left and FSK on Rigjt   Just spot on   The club data was further down   I’ll try and get those on another session  

I will say the data on this one wa probably a bit further off than most   For example the spin shows a difference of 53 rpm  while vey good  there were several where it was 20 RPM or less  pretty incredible  

Dispersion chart on my SW and 7 iron...yeah, not very long I know but at least fairly tight.

 

Club Summary list can be used to see if your gapping are consistent enough of 10 to 15 yards between each club.  In this case, I have 4 clubs  GW, PW, 9 and 8 irons between the SW and 7.  So the 42 yard average is pretty spot on.

 

Pretty good gapping on Dustin's shot averages as well.  His 7 iron is a bit shorter than he normally hits it, so it's not perfect in this session.

[Coulter]

I currently own a garmin r10 and have been interested in the mlm2 pro. Since you own both could you tell me which you prefer and why? I have both lefty’s and righty’s that I play with so radar is pretty much the only option I have or else I would be interested in a camera based system. I currently have an outside setup if that helps your answer. 

[Golfspy_CG2]

2 minutes ago, Coulter said:

I currently own a garmin r10 and have been interested in the mlm2 pro. Since you own both could you tell me which you prefer and why? I have both lefty’s and righty’s that I play with so radar is pretty much the only option I have or else I would be interested in a camera based system. I currently have an outside setup if that helps your answer. 

That’s a great question and honestly thdy are both good.  You won’t be disappointed either way. 
 

The R10 costs less and gives Club data such as  club path and face to path etc.  Rapsodo says this will come down rhd line but not sure when. 
 

But MLM is superior in every other way in my experience.  I like that it has a built in camera.  So you can watch your swing there and see your path.   Thd impact vision is fanatic.   If you see lines up properly.  It will show you what your club face is doing at impact.   It is really cool.  
Like you I used them both mostly outside and found myself using the MLM2 more.   When I did a few inside sessions last winter I did use the R10 with E6 for the range and simulator.  MLM2 just made some fantastic updates to its sim package from what I have read on its FB page. 
 

If I could only keep one of the two. It’d be the MLM2 without a doubt. 

[Coulter]

My biggest problem with the r10 so far has been no built in camera and no slow motion video. You can slow the video down but the frame rate of a phone camera makes it too choppy to see the entire swing. Thank you for the response. I think I’ll just have to start a serious search for the mlm2.

[Golfspy_CG2]

Yeah. That was ultimately the one big mark against it in my book.   Minus that, it’s a very good unit at a good price.  
 

I think you’ll like the MLM2 a lot if you go that route. 
 

 

[cnosil]

Nice writeup Rob.  I guess working at a golf course gives you plenty (more than me) of opportunity to get to the range to hit balls so the FSK definitely makes sense.  

[Golfspy_CG2]

6 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Nice writeup Rob.  I guess working at a golf course gives you plenty (more than me) of opportunity to get to the range to hit balls so the FSK definitely makes sense.  

True that.    You remember our Superintendent Tom—he played with us at Vinteria a few years ago. 
 

We were sitting in my office literally maybe 2 weeks ago talking about how we both have ended the season on a down note in our games.   We had just played in a 2 man scramble and shot 73 and weren’t happy about it. 

He said to me.  “If we only worked someplace where we got free ramge balls and could practice anytime we wanted and this place was less than 100 yards from both our offices…..”

I said. …yeah, if only!  And we both laughed and said…what did we expect.  Ha 

But yes it is nice.  I just wish we had one of those headed studio bays that hit out onto a range for the winter.  But we’d probably ignore that as well.  Ha

[cnosil]

19 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

True that.    You remember our Superintendent Tom—he played with us at Vinteria a few years ago. 
 

We were sitting in my office literally maybe 2 weeks ago talking about how we both have ended the season on a down note in our games.   We had just played in a 2 man scramble and shot 73 and weren’t happy about it. 

He said to me.  “If we only worked someplace where we got free ramge balls and could practice anytime we wanted and this place was less than 100 yards from both our offices…..”

I said. …yeah, if only!  And we both laughed and said…what did we expect.  Ha 

But yes it is nice.  I just wish we had one of those headed studio bays that hit out onto a range for the winter.  But we’d probably ignore that as well.  Ha

It's sort of like professional landscapers have the worst yards, plumbers have leaky faucets, and if you work at a golf course you don't go to the range.

 

[Golfspy_CG2]

17 minutes ago, cnosil said:

It's sort of like professional landscapers have the worst yards, plumbers have leaky faucets, and if you work at a golf course you don't go to the range.

 

Like friends who live in DC and never have been to any of the museums or monuments! 
 

Next year though

[Josh Parker]

Thanks for the write up!  I have been wondering how this unit worked and performed. 

[Golfspy_CG2]

6 hours ago, Josh Parker said:

Thanks for the write up!  I have been wondering how this unit worked and performed. 

Sure thing. I’ll keep it updated as I continue to use it.  Waiting for a space at the course to be completed where I can try the simulation.  

[Golfspy_CG2]

With some things taking up my time and weather the past few weeks I hadn’t had a chance to use this much.  But got out twice with it this wek on course.  The first time was just biting some 7 irons to get rust off the swing. 
 

Friday I actually tried to get as much in as I could in an expanded lunch hour.  So I went to one our holes that was closed.   Hit some irons and finally driver. 

My distance were down maybe 1 club from the end of the season on irons and maybe 3 mph in driver.   So I’ve got to start some winger work to at least vercback to where I was last year CHS speed wise.   The good news I seemed to be making sold contact. Lots of good smash factors.  
 

Anyway I’ll post some screen shots that show how it can be effective to get your gaps and dispersion. 
 

But mostly I use it for all the club and ball data.  For example my path is naturally out to in sometimes very excessive.  So I watch that.   
 

Other key metrics for me are obviously 

Ball Speed

Spin 

Launch Angle 

Apex 

Side Carry 

There are a few things I have noticed I wish it had and have a email onto CS to see if I’m just missing how to do it 

For example I had this session on my I pad and all the stats are on my dashboard so I could post them here from my I phone  but the videos only appear not to show on both devices.   The session the day before I did have my iPhone and it displayed   
Also I have not seen a way to export the data in any form like an xls format or via email/text  

as for the shot data one key one is like to see added is Angle of descent. 

 

And for any new members here my usual disclaimer   I’m old and kne of the shortest hitters on the site  so don’t think my device is broken or anything

 

 

 

[Captain3484]

Does the app show flight path? Or just dispersion?