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... Here is my Big Stu moment. I was on staff with Wilson and played the Ultra 45's when Wilson came out with the Titanium Whale driver. I was the narrator and designated swinger for the release in a video sent out to familiarize potential clients and after we finished filming I told the CEO of Wilson "For what it's worth, I don't think many people are gone play a driver with such a huge head. I love it after hitting it but when I first looked at it I thought I would never be able to hit a golf ball with such a large headed driver." LOL good thing he paid no attention to me because that head was small compared to todays 460cc drivers. 

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3 hours ago, Joker said:

My prediction, that was foreshadowed last night, is that both will be produced. The owner dude noted that his W was still in play at the end decision. One of them will win, then the dude will pull out the W and say they are putting both into production.

That would not surprise me in the least.  That would be the dramatic curveball they need. 

 

 

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... I seriously doubt Wilson can afford to manufacture 2 drivers that won't sell but hey, anything is possible!

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I’m watching it on DVR right now... The spin, ball speed, and total numbers are seriously weird!


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4 hours ago, Joker said:

My prediction, that was foreshadowed last night, is that both will be produced. The owner dude noted that his W was still in play at the end decision. One of them will win, then the dude will pull out the W and say they are putting both into production.

That thought occurred to me as well, they have both preformed very well, and both have appealed to all who have seen and hit them

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I’ll be honest, If Roswell wins, I will definitely give it a shot, Almost everyone who hit the Roswell hit it 20 yards farther than the others ones, and that was with everything set a neutral, I think with some adjusting this driver could be something. Are they going to sell like TM or Callaway, probably not, but I think they will sell a fair amount. 

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Sean Payton hit one 285 on a 97 mph swing speed.... Come ON! No way.

 

 

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29 minutes ago, PMookie said:

I’m watching it on DVR right now... The spin, ball speed, and total numbers are seriously weird!


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I have noticed that throughout the series. Nothing is adding up to what you would normally expect to see in terms of the numbers. Makes me more curious to demo the winner and see what they heck is going on

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12 minutes ago, PMookie said:

Sean Payton hit one 285 on a 97 mph swing speed.... Come ON! No way.

 

 

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I mean Lake Tahoe is 6,000ft above sea level

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14 minutes ago, PMookie said:

Sean Payton hit one 285 on a 97 mph swing speed.... Come ON! No way.

 

...PMookie, remember Tahoe is at 6220 feet of altitude and with some run as well as some wind at his back, 300 is easily doable. Although it would have been nice to see the carry numbers. 

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Irons:    4-Pw Cobra King Tour MIM ... Steelfiber 95R
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I would imagine carry numbers were excluded to help try and build up some hype for all the drivers

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I see it this way, the testers hit all 3 from the same place, one driver (with the exception of 1 or 2 people) was consistently 15-20 yards farther than the other 2. All of them were set to standard and none were dialed into the person driving. I realize the altitude does affect the overall distance numbers, but I also know that altitude affected all 3 drivers and one of them was way longer than the other 2, and many were also commenting on the accuracy of that driver. Cortex has a chance, but the rozwell gave consistently more yardage. 

Eric Gagne hot it 335 on the very first drive and he only hit it one time. 

I would like to have seen some of the guys dial them in some to see what numbers they could get. 

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Sean Payton hit one 285 on a 97 mph swing speed.... Come ON! No way.
 
 
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Have they even shown what these look like from the top? They keep talking about the weird look of the magnus, but all they keep showing is the look from the bottom.


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14 minutes ago, romeopapazulu said:

Have they even shown what these look like from the top? They keep talking about the weird look of the magnus, but all they keep showing is the look from the bottom.


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That's What I said in my video in the review up to date.

The D v D is an awesome marketing tool to bring notoriety to the brand. They made serious improvements to the series from the last one for sure. Im also in agreement about the LM numbers seeming a little dodgy. I'm hoping what we didn't see was the serious amount of real testing being done on the models say in comparison to other OEMs to make sure a dud isn't being brought to market. 

What I haven't heard is that is better than my gamer.

Pros and Cons

Pro: Wilson is getting new and modern designs. The real weakness for the company was the design on the sole.

Con: I can really see putting a driver without an associated FW or Hybrid. If you are going to buy into the model at least fill out the line.

Pro: Even if the numbers appear dodgy, at least it appears the judges are using data verse popularity to make decisions

Con: NO shots or picture of the top of the drivers, it was the determining factor in removing the Magnus from the line up. SO LETS SEE IT!

Pro: the internet will be a blaze with reviews of the clubs and Club vs club review. Wanna bet Rick will have his up the day after....

Overall I like the program for what it does and produces. I hope continues and expands.

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For those wanting to see the top, there are some online pictures and there were pictures in the YouTube video done by Adam and Sam last week

 

 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U5G3TSgPsIM

 

 

But if you just want pictures here is the most complete set i have found; shows the prototypes through final design.

https://www.behance.net/gallery/71696363/Magnus-20-Driver-vs-Driver-2

 

 

 

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On ‎10‎/‎30‎/‎2018 at 11:58 AM, Golfspy_CG2 said:

SmartA$$ 🤨

Ohhhh I'm telling the MGS staff that you.....oh wait.

On ‎11‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 10:05 PM, Kor.A.Door said:

I think Jimmy screwed up, it’s all good that he wouldn’t make any changes to his club, making changes to your design is part of the process in making it better, the idea is to make it better. By keeping with the original design he pretty much sealed his own fate from the show, if he would have taken the advice from the folks in the industry. The design team, the pro golfers, the am golfers that all gave the same feedback, and he would not budge. I don’t applaud him for that, if he thought his technology was the best, some simple changes could have changes his outcome. It performed well, but there were problems that were brought to his attention that he did nothing to fix. 

 

A little humility and tactfulness can go a long way.  That driver was smoking it at the beginning. What could have been with a few design tweaks 🧐

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I’m watching it on DVR right now... The spin, ball speed, and total numbers are seriously weird!


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I was thinking the same thing.  I even paused and was running quick smash factor numbers to see what kind of dark magic was being done.

 

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Lefty spotting at Fujikura. Is this a harbinger for the driver release?


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On 11/7/2018 at 12:51 PM, chisag said:

... Here is my Big Stu moment. I was on staff with Wilson and played the Ultra 45's when Wilson came out with the Titanium Whale driver. I was the narrator and designated swinger for the release in a video sent out to familiarize potential clients and after we finished filming I told the CEO of Wilson "For what it's worth, I don't think many people are gone play a driver with such a huge head. I love it after hitting it but when I first looked at it I thought I would never be able to hit a golf ball with such a large headed driver." LOL good thing he paid no attention to me because that head was small compared to todays 460cc drivers. 

I remember when John Daly played one of those and he could knock the snot out of that thing---- But again in those days he could knock the snot out of any driver. I can remember in the same time frame you talked about a friend of mine was on Wilson's Staff and he played those Ultra 45 irons with some funky graphite shafts in them that were black with like gold threads in them. My friend also had one of those Killer Whale drivers too and I could do nothing but hook the crap out of that thing

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My Triton ended up taking a back seat to the Cobra F8 but I don’t plan 9n getting rid of it, just yet. For D v D 2, I like the Cortex and Roswell equally well, with the Roswell winning because of the little alien pic on the sole of the club.


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