Big money Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I’m noticing a new division happening in golf. More financially strapped clubs are opening up their doors to almost anyone now a days. They are almost begging people to join. Many who are joining are people you were never considered ‘country club material’ . Which I find almost comical in a way. At one point in many country clubs lucrative pasts. Many of these new members would be looked down on or ridiculed. Now they are begging for them to join and help a losing cause. It’s almost a two faced type of a move. At one juncture it was a “you don’t belong and will never belong here mentality”. Now it is a “ please join, we will take anyone”. I so look forward to the day when local one time exclusive clubs will have big hair bands or heavy death metal playing at their social functions. As other old fart members scoff at what is happening (or will be). I personally find this a hoot and love the much needed change Quote Keep it in the short stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big money Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) Hahahah.That was a good read.And I totally agree.Ive been told that this is really upsetting some of the long term members of these clubs.And many had long drawn out arguments why they shouldn’t be allowing everyone in to their inner sanctums.But when the ship is sinking.You got to do what you got to do.Believe me, there will be some real culture clashes for many at these places.Its not a question if it is good for the game.Its a last chance effort to keep these places above the red Imagine Mr and Mrs Green rocking out to a slayer cover band.After downing a few fifties Edited May 10, 2019 by Big money silver & black 1 Quote Keep it in the short stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post revkev Posted May 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2019 Alright I will bite - with all due respect to the poster I think this is an unfair characterization of the atmosphere at the overwhelming number of clubs and club members.I’ve been around private clubs, many of which still thrive, as a caddy, a guest a regular member and a clergy member. I also frequent a muni and was a member at what would be termed a semi private club on an other occasion.I am here to report that the common thing between each place was that I met engaging kind people who shared my passion for golf under each circumstance. I’ve also met a rare person or two whom I didn’t care to associate with. For every few and far between so called snob at a club I’ve met an equal or greater number of few and far betweens at munis who suffer from jealously of the country club set.I wouldn’t term the opening up of some clubs, “two faced,” I’d call it adapting to the current business climate. That’s something that any successful business does. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy GolfSpy MPR, tony@CIC, CarlH and 7 others 10 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 This happened in 2006-2012 in several pockets across the Nation. Clubs are a product of their environment and when discretionary income tightens up, clubs need to adapt or die. B81Smith 1 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big money Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, revkev said: Alright I will bite - with all due respect to the poster I think this is an unfair characterization of the atmosphere at the overwhelming number of clubs and club members. I’ve been around private clubs, many of which still thrive, as a caddy, a guest a regular member and a clergy member. I also frequent a muni and was a member at what would be termed a semi private club on an other occasion. I am here to report that the common thing between each place was that I met engaging kind people who shared my passion for golf under each circumstance. I’ve also met a rare person or two whom I didn’t care to associate with. For every few and far between so called snob at a club I’ve met an equal or greater number of few and far betweens at munis who suffer from jealously of the country club set. I wouldn’t term the opening up of some clubs, “two faced,” I’d call it adapting to the current business climate. That’s something that any successful business does. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I agree with Rev.But I’m a member at a club that this is happening.And I’m not one who is happy about it.My biggest fear is this style of member showing up in the AM.Teeing off behind me and my foursome of close friends.Or a whole parking lot of low riders.Golf is open to anyone imho.And love the idea of expanding the game .But I’ve been a member for 40 plus years at my club.And enjoy it the way it was.Not how it might be Rhinosparky, MattF and revkev 1 2 Quote Keep it in the short stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I appreciate Rev's comment. I started one earlier but deleted it. Have a nice day everyone. revkev 1 Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 We have only one private club here in my area, and it is doing just fine. Twenty years ago we had another country club that went semi-private; membership but the public was welcome to play golf but no other activities or access to dining facilities. It's doing OK too. On my recent trip to Phoenix, I noticed public access to clubs that had been private in the past. I played at one nice club, and ate at their Sunday brunch. Food was fabulous! The people were very nice, and I would be happy to play there again. I'm pretty sure their membership requirements are similar to what they once were, but they have opted to allow public play to increase revenue so the members can still enjoy their benefits without lowering membership standards. I don't have a problem with that. tony@CIC and revkev 2 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B81Smith Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I see and hear about this happening. As a kid who grew up at a highly exclusive country club and now as a grown man is barely able to afford local muni fees and constantly look for deals or coupons to continue my habit - I feel I can relate to both sides.For the most part I feel if you can afford the dues and respect the course, club, its rules, by laws and handle yourself like a decent human being - you should be allowed to join. That's who I am. I have clubs calling me, emailing me, sending me stuff on facebook, etc all trying to get me to join - I tell them flat out - I can afford about 100/month and since they're all about 1000/month and up I'll have to holler at them after my trust fund kicks in LOL. It is annoying though because yes I want to join so bad but just cannot afford it any way short of selling an organ. I do believe we have plenty of clubs out there who cater to the exclusive ultra high end client. The ones with private jet travel - you know the types. They belong to 3 or 4 private clubs around the USA. Sometimes they only make it to one a few times a year, staying on property, bringing clients or friends for a few days of play. Usually hailing from NYC or a posh place on the west coast - those are the guys who can command the 'we don't want your kind here' type of attitude. BUT if you're a no name, we haven't heard of ya, not rated on anything type of private country club you must take what you can get and I think that's a good thing. I think its a good thing they're kinda loosing their asses because we have too many private courses by me. WAY too many - would I love to play them - you bet! I'm in the Chicagoland area and believe me its a minimum 50/round to play a crap muni, yes deals can be found for 25 or 35 and those are the courses I play! I have played some of the most exclusive clubs (not in this area though) and can attest if you look the part you will be treated with respect and kindness. I'm not black or brown though and I'd bet if I was I would've had a different experience at courses like Firestone or Sharon Golf Club, Medinah, etc. I know some things I've said will be met with 'I don't think so' or controversial issues but I speak the unbiased truth. If it hurts your feelings I can't help how you feel but its true that many people of color don't feel welcome at many places but things are changing and change is good. Its not like Roger Dangerfield bought bushwood country club and made it a hockey rink and pin wheels, etc. LOL Come on folks - just because the faces of membership don't look like you - ITS OKAY and things are going to be just fine even if low riders fill the parking lots, hoppties rocking hiphop music blaring from the subs - do they pay on time, do their checks cash, do they follow the rules and respect others, tip when appropriate, etc. - That is what matters - being a good human being and a responsible golfer. silver & black, melcoeb, tony@CIC and 1 other 4 Quote Ben S Hailing from N Aurora IL WITB: Putter: Mizuno by Bettinardi BC1 w/SuperStroke MidSlim 2.0 Flamed finish (1 Degree) Driver: Ping G – Mitsubishi Diamana Blue 73 X (10.5 Degree) 3 Wood : Callaway Epic Flash – Mitsubishi Tensei AV Blue 75 S (15.5 Degree) 3 Hybrid: Tour Edge CBX 119 – Project X EvenFlow Black 85 S (18 Degree) 3 Hybrid: Ping G – Mitsubishi Tensei CK Pro Blue HY 86 S (19 Degree) 4 – GW: Ping i210 - Oban CT-115 X (22.5 - 50 Degrees) SW: Titleist SM7 S Grind - Tour Chrome - Stock S200 (54 Degree) LW: Titleist SM7 D Grind - Tour Chrome - Stock S200 (58 Degree) All Grips: Winn Dri-Tec Midsize - Gray/Blue w/ 2 extra wraps low hand Customizing: Lime Green/Hot Pink Custom Paintfill - all clubs White ferrules with Blue Stripes from Cell-Parts.net Irons fitted & built by True Spec Golf Custom Headcovers from Sunfish Golf PING White DLX Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 It's interesting but I can't tell you how many courses we've lost and private clubs turned public since 2008. It's disheartening, but the courses that have adapted thrive. The rest are strip malls and condos. Take Dead Aim tony@CIC, MattF and tehuti 3 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post deejaid Posted May 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 10, 2019 I’m a member of a private club. I am a middle age white male. I am married to an Asian woman. I grew up in low income housing but now have a mortgage. We both drive Honda’s. I play guitar and can rip through Scorpions tunes. I enjoy cannabis as my smoke of choice.Now, do I fit in at a Country Club? Yes, because on the course I respect the game. Whether others at the club come for similar or different backgrounds, have differing political or religious points of view, it’s all good. I hope our shared love of the game will allow us to enjoy our club together.And if not, I’ll smoke em out on the 19th hole and see the real them Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk tony@CIC, silver & black, revkev and 8 others 11 Quote WITB: Stan Thompson “Reactionizer” persimmon woods 1-4 Spalding Tour Edition 3-PW Spalding Top-Flite E.V.A. Sand Club Rife Legend Z Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 hour ago, revkev said: I wouldn’t term the opening up of some clubs, “two faced,” I’d call it adapting to the current business climate. That’s something that any successful business does. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I'm with Rev on this - as a business one must adapt or perish. As a boater and having been a member of several clubs in different locations, I find a wide disparity in the Club's management capability both to serve it's current membership as well as foretell future needs. This is especially true of equity clubs in both boating and golf. In equity clubs (where you buy into the membership), the head of the club is there for a year - many times it's the biggest management responsibility they've ever had. This happened at our last yacht club, where the Commodore (aka President) of the club ramrodded through a number of capital projects he favored - after all this was "his" year. As a result there was a large debt and the club had to open up to non equity membership and with greatly reduced monthly fees. The result was a fleeing of the members who fully supported the Club. Fast forward to today - we belong to a club (which by the way has very reasonable due/fees) that is professionally run, with strong business ethics, exceptional customer service and a no BS policy. You want to misbehave or harass others - goodbye! There is a waiting list for this very family oriented club. MattF and B81Smith 2 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charli Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 Anyone can fit into a country club. It’s about etiquette. I don’t care what you do outside of the club. Deal drugs to pay for your membership what do I care as long as your dressed and act appropriately I’m good with it. Don’t act or look like an idiot and you won’t be treated as such tony@CIC, Smellis745, CarlH and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 This season the local USGA branch is opening the country club tourney circuit and play days to anyone with an official handicap. Should be eye opening for both sides. Take Dead Aim tony@CIC and Kenny B 2 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 I don't see how the USGA can do that. They don't control private clubs. Unless there was "collusion". LOL tony@CIC and DiscipleofPenick 2 Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Tsmithjr9 said: This season the local USGA branch is opening the country club tourney circuit and play days to anyone with an official handicap. Should be eye opening for both sides. Take Dead Aim 12 minutes ago, PlaidJacket said: I don't see how the USGA can do that. They don't control private clubs. Unless there was "collusion". LOL I think it's at the state level. Our WSGA has been doing this for a few years; days at private clubs that anyone can play. I haven't done it yet, but I think they book the course and players have to sign up in advance. If you have several players, you can request a specific pairing. tony@CIC 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlH Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Neither the PGA nor the USGA can make demands on who can play on private courses. If it is occurring, it is because the local PGA chapter has worked with the private clubs to provide these opportunities. Most clubs are willing to participate in these endeavors on a limited basis because it's good for the game and good for the club. The private clubs want to allow access to their clubs for potential members, but not at the expense of hurting the membership....it's a very fine line. I'm a member of a private club and we often have non-club tournaments open to the public, club sponsored events that allow non members to participate, and other occasions. These are generally, but not always, OGA sponsored. Guests are always welcome at the club when accompanied by a member, but it's limited to how often one may play per month if they live within the local area radius. tony@CIC and DiscipleofPenick 2 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at -1 and neutral) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft Ball: Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: Pioneer...Shoes: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I think it's at the state level. Our WSGA has been doing this for a few years; days at private clubs that anyone can play. I haven't done it yet, but I think they book the course and players have to sign up in advance. If you have several players, you can request a specific pairing. Thanks@Kenny B you put it better than I did. NOGA (Northern Ohio) runs the interclub tourneys for the country clubs and up till this season you had to be a member of one of the private clubs to play. Now they're open to anyone with a USGA index. I'm looking forward to playing. Take Dead Aim tony@CIC and Kenny B 2 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp0rtsfan86 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Going back 5-6 years ago my home course required you to be a member to play in the tournament. Now it's anyone who has a county membership. There was no loyalty program, now it's expanding times and locations. Meanwhile, courses are closing near me in Indiana. I can't speak to the private clubs as I joined a public/sort of semi-private set up but I would imagine those clubs are also feeling the hurt. I will say this, golf needs to figure out how to turn the people who play 1-2 a year into addicts. Especially those who are younger. I don't see it fully as a stuffy crowd, I see this as more of an all over problem where golf needs to become more popular. Quote Driver: Epic Flash 12 Degree Wood: GBB 3 Wood Hybrid: Razr 4 hybriid stiff stock shaft. Irons: X2 Hot 4 iron (pro version) 5 iron - Gap Wedge (non pro version). KBS 120g Shaft stiff cut 1/2 inch bent 1°upright Wedges: 52° 56° and 60°. All grips are Golf pride grips midsized Putter (lefty): Odyssey Metal-X #8 34", stock shaft bent 2° Superstroke grip Golf Balls: 2018-9 Pro-V1x and Prov1s Shoes: Dryjoy tours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BostonSal Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 On 5/10/2019 at 9:19 AM, Big money said: I’m noticing a new division happening in golf. More financially strapped clubs are opening up their doors to almost anyone now a days. They are almost begging people to join. Many who are joining are people you were never considered ‘country club material’ . Which I find almost comical in a way. At one point in many country clubs lucrative pasts. Many of these new members would be looked down on or ridiculed. Now they are begging for them to join and help a losing cause. It’s almost a two faced type of a move. At one juncture it was a “you don’t belong and will never belong here mentality”. Now it is a “ please join, we will take anyone”. I so look forward to the day when local one time exclusive clubs will have big hair bands or heavy death metal playing at their social functions. As other old fart members scoff at what is happening (or will be). I personally find this a hoot and love the much needed change I think that's there's a significant difference between member equity private clubs and corporate owned private clubs. My own club, which opened 115 years ago, began as the former, of course. I would never have gotten past the membership committee back in those Brahmin days. The original club went under in the early seventies. It's been a corporate owned club for many years now. If there's an opening in the membership and your check clears, you're in as far as I can see. No huge initiation. No assessments. And a beautiful Donald Ross course that's been completely restored. I have nothing to complain about. BIG STU 1 Quote Louisville Golf Persimmon___2, 4, 5, 7-woods; Epon AF-906___driving iron; Titleist T100 5, 6, 7, 8, 9-irons; Titleist T100S___48°; Edison 2.0___53º; Titleist SM-9 (T)___58º; Tad Moore Otto Hackbarth___putter; Titleist Pro V1x___ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonSal Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, jensenak said: I think the prestige of golf was initially overstated. Why has privileged society come to think of golf as a game only for the rich? VERY easy to explain if you live near a major metropolitan area as I do. You've got 150 acres of golf course. Manicuring 150 acres for golf is hideously expensive, especially in a non-right-to-work state. Do you have any idea what a developer will pay to convert that land to house lots? The number is staggering. An hour north in New Hampshire, they converted a famous, 100+ year old thoroughbred racing track to residential and commercial property for gazillions of dollars. That's one hour NORTH of Boston, not just outside of town. It takes a very good reason to keep a golf course a golf course. It's widely assumed that our club, not member owned, is a laundromat for revenues accrued elsewhere. Ask me if I care. I love it here. Somebody like myself shouldn't be able to afford a club like this. If you live in a less densely populated area, it's a whole different story. Quote Louisville Golf Persimmon___2, 4, 5, 7-woods; Epon AF-906___driving iron; Titleist T100 5, 6, 7, 8, 9-irons; Titleist T100S___48°; Edison 2.0___53º; Titleist SM-9 (T)___58º; Tad Moore Otto Hackbarth___putter; Titleist Pro V1x___ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 10/7/2021 at 3:43 PM, BostonSal said: I think that's there's a significant difference between member equity private clubs and corporate owned private clubs. My own club, which opened 115 years ago, began as the former, of course. I would never have gotten past the membership committee back in those Brahmin days. The original club went under in the early seventies. It's been a corporate owned club for many years now. If there's an opening in the membership and your check clears, you're in as far as I can see. No huge initiation. No assessments. And a beautiful Donald Ross course that's been completely restored. I have nothing to complain about. I absolutely love any Donald Ross course BostonSal 1 Quote Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- 5W TM V-Steel Fubuki 60r--- 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R----- 9 W TM V Steel TM MAS stiff---- Irons 2015 TM TP CB Steel Fiber 95 R--- GW Callaway Mack Daddy 2 52* shaft unknown junk pile refugee. SW Callaway PM Grind 56* Modified sole grind--- KBS Tour Wedge-- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter Ping B90I Broom Stick G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, BIG STU said: I absolutely love any Donald Ross course 2nd!! Luckily there a public one in CLE, just made that best munis in the US lost that came out. Columbus has a public one as well, and in Youngstown there's 36 holes of Ross run by their metroparks. BIG STU 1 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 4 hours ago, DiscipleofPenick said: 2nd!! Luckily there a public one in CLE, just made that best munis in the US lost that came out. Columbus has a public one as well, and in Youngstown there's 36 holes of Ross run by their metroparks. There are none in the local area of the Grand Strand area of SC where I have lived the last 21 years but in NC where I am from and grew up in there are quite a few-- And then you have some muni type Ross Copy courses as I call them. Quote Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- 5W TM V-Steel Fubuki 60r--- 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R----- 9 W TM V Steel TM MAS stiff---- Irons 2015 TM TP CB Steel Fiber 95 R--- GW Callaway Mack Daddy 2 52* shaft unknown junk pile refugee. SW Callaway PM Grind 56* Modified sole grind--- KBS Tour Wedge-- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter Ping B90I Broom Stick G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom the Golf Nut Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I live in a rural area and belong to a private club. The challenges for a club like this to survive is always a topic of discussion. Even though it is a course designed by a famous architect it still struggles. I have been a member for 16 years and during a membership meeting 12 years ago they were looking for ideas to add revenue. I opened my mouth and suggested we open the course to the public on Mondays for golf only as we are normally closed on Monday. If looks could kill. I didnt make many friends. Shot down hard. Long standing members are reluctant to change. They want to keep things as they have been in the past. Well 10 years later we are open to the public for golf on Mondays. Times change and courses have to do what they have to to survive. I even have seen the dress codes change over these years. In the clubs dress code was: Shirts must be tucked in, collard shirts must be worn, a hats brim must face forward, no jeans, no tee shirts, shorts must be to the knee, no cargo shorts. Those were the rules. You didn't like it you could go elsewhere. Well all those rules are not enforced any longer except maybe the tee shirt. Initiation fees have gone away. Now as long as you pay your monthly dues your good. My only gripe is for the most part members respect the course and repaired divots, ball mark's, and rake the trap when done. Playing in the afternoon on a Monday you can see that the course was not left as they found it in the morning. Either they don’t care or they figured the grounds crew will clean up after them tomorrow morning. MattF and Rhinosparky 2 Quote Driver, TSi 1 S Flex 3 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex Irons, Tour UST Recoil 95 R Flex (6 - Gap) Wedges, Snakebite KBS Hi- Rev2.0 54* & 60* Agera 35" Ultralight 14-way Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinosparky Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 My how the times have changed. 2019 was when the OP started this thread. Now you are lucky if you can even get a tee time at most public courses here in this state with its crazy population boom. (Thanks a lot California) I was able to join a Country Club this year the price for the initiation fee doubled by the time I found a willing party to sell a equity membership. Now it has even went up from there. I do however think this surge in popularity is not sustainable. To many other things for people to do have opened back up and people will go back to those. I hope the golf world keeps going strong because someday I may want to sell my membership when I'm not able to swing a club. Kenny B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Rhinosparky said: My how the times have changed. 2019 was when the OP started this thread. Now you are lucky if you can even get a tee time at most public courses here in this state with its crazy population boom. (Thanks a lot California) I was able to join a Country Club this year the price for the initiation fee doubled by the time I found a willing party to sell a equity membership. Now it has even went up from there. I do however think this surge in popularity is not sustainable. To many other things for people to do have opened back up and people will go back to those. I hope the golf world keeps going strong because someday I may want to sell my membership when I'm not able to swing a club. It's the same here. In 2019 I could walk onto our muni after 10am and play as a single any weekday until leagues started around 3pm. Since covid hit, I have to have a tee time any day, all day as a member. I talked to our pro at our Christmas party and he is pretty certain that the level of play will drop off in 2022. We'll see. Rhinosparky 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlow206 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 I'm spoiled. I get my same tee time or close to same time every Sunday at my home club. I'm currently on vacation right now and called to make a same day tee time for a par 3 9 hole course and there were no tee times available. I should have expected that, but again, i'm spoiled Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonSal Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 On 11/22/2021 at 2:53 PM, DiscipleofPenick said: 2nd!! Luckily there a public one in CLE, just made that best munis in the US lost that came out. Columbus has a public one as well, and in Youngstown there's 36 holes of Ross run by their metroparks. In our area, the vast majority of public green fee courses are privately owned, not munis. We have very few actual munis. We do have one outstanding muni, however, the George Wright, right within Boston's city limits, that's a Donald Ross creation. I could be wrong, but I think it was a WPA Project as part of thr National Recovery Act. For a while it fell into disrepair but it's back to its old self now...and hard to get on. Quote Louisville Golf Persimmon___2, 4, 5, 7-woods; Epon AF-906___driving iron; Titleist T100 5, 6, 7, 8, 9-irons; Titleist T100S___48°; Edison 2.0___53º; Titleist SM-9 (T)___58º; Tad Moore Otto Hackbarth___putter; Titleist Pro V1x___ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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