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On 8/17/2020 at 6:13 PM, tchat07 said:

Definitely seems slightly bulkier that is something I noticed today. Spent some more time hitting shots today and have found that I can control distances nicely with it. However am struggling with trajectory, less then full shots are low and full shots are very high. Also am not really seeing the "zip". They arent rolling out worse then a few old wedges I brought out to compare but for a wedge that I thought was going to check up hasn't done much.

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You and I might be writing the same reviews.  My chips are also very low as mentioned in a previous post. Also, according to GC2 launch monitor on two separate sessions my MD4 produces more spin. 

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My new wedge actually came in last Thursday night but I couldn't play with it until we adjusted the shaft length. My husband helped me and we trimmed it down 1" Friday night. It took until today for m

I'm not accomplished enough as a player to hit all or even most shots consistently to be able to answer this but I wanted to know also. In the past most of my shots to the green had quite a bit of rol

Got out to the Range yesterday. Did a little Chipping and hit some Full shots.. Here it is compared the the Cobra King Black wedge both are in 58* Mid Bounce/Versatile..  It Seems to be sli

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Good to hear thoughts from the higher lofted testers.  Being that I am testing the 46° it is mostly a full swing club I don’t get to do much delicate work with it. 
 

Finishing up the round recap and the range work stuff.  It has been a week.  Anyone in need of a boat?  Constantly broken, but at least it keeps me employed.

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Three full swing shots on the range before my round yesterday... I think they finally hit the right spot (pic below)!

 

I've said it before, but the 58* has been money for me out of the rough and for 3/4 and pitch shots 85 yards and under. Put a couple 70-80 yards within 4 feet yesterday.

 

Still not comfortable with using this from the fairway or fringe on shots under 25 yards... But out of the rough at those distances it's golden. It's gotta be something with the bounce. Or I just need a heck of a lot more time chipping with it. Just do not have the same confidence I do with the Scor wedges.... At least not yet. Is it the size? The fact the feel is so muted? My feeble brain? TBD....

 

 

 

 

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Got in some range work over the weekend.. Actually 2 range sessions. I am not noticing, any huge distance gains, maybe 2-3 yards, but what I am noticing, is much higher ball flight on the same shots.. As best as I can tell from the naked eye it's 10-15 ft higher on well struck shots, with slightly longer distances.. The other major notice for me is that I think do to the extra weight I feel late as I come through the ball. Not like I am stuck but just slightly behind, kinda out of timing.. I should be getting in some on course work this weekend, and hopefully get a better feel for the club and its position... 

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On 8/23/2020 at 8:15 PM, dhartmann34 said:

Had an 18 hole round for my league today. I continue to find The 58* zipcore good from about 85 yards to about 20 yards. It's easy to get the ball in the air and put it where I want.

Chipping around the green with it has been a challenge. Usually chipping and putting are the strengths of my game, but with this I haven't had great consistency. I've said this before... But i don't know if it's the size of the head out the fact the bounce is far more than I've had on any other wedges. Once a store gets them in stock, I'm going to check out a 58* with low bounce to see how I like it.

The feel of this wedge is still muted... Which is fine. But I don't know at contact where the ball is going and if it were a good or bad strike.... Unless it's a chip. Those I seen to really have immediate feedback on... Especially if I catch even a tiny piece of grass in between the ball and clubface.

A nine hole league round tomorrow...

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Maybe the muted sound has something to do with them moving around mass in the club head? Just a random thought, but certainly a possibility. 

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Maybe the muted sound has something to do with them moving around mass in the club head? Just a random thought, but certainly a possibility. 
Muted feel.... And yeah, certainly could be the design that makes it different. Just a different type of wedge than I'm used to I'm sure. Used to the blade like wedges. As a feel player, I love the feedback I'm used to getting with a good or poor shot.

It's an interesting question though.... If you have a club that performs well for you, but the feel and lower level of confidence is there.... Do you still play it because of the results?


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Irons: :ping-small: Crossover 3 iron (19*) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shaft

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Wedges: Scor 50*, 54*, and 58* with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts

Putter:  :cameron-small: Pro Platinum Newport 2 Midslant

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Played a full round on Sunday and had several shots with the RTX ZipCore Wedge. I hit 2 full swing shots, 3 -3/4 knock down shots and I “attempted” if you want to call it that 1 43 yard low checking shot.

1 thing I am noticing is I seem to be hitting just about every shot high on the face and out on the toe.
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*** Keep in mind that the wedges that Cleveland sent us are standard length and lie ***

I play my current gamer at +3/4” and 2 degrees up, so I’m pretty sure that’s accounting for the mishits.

Even though I am hitting the ball out on the toe, I’m still seeing consistent distance and good spin from the ZipCore.

Both full swing shots hit the green and left me 12 feet or less for my birdie.

2 out of the 3 knockdowns were dead online and inside of 6 feet, the other I pulled of the green.

The attempted low checking shot was bladed and flew the green...no fault of the arrow,,definitely the Indian on that one.

I planned on getting the club to my fitter to change the shaft this weekend but Hurricane Laura might have other plans.

Stay tuned!



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So I decided last night to start chipping with my 58* on my birdieball green. I think the tight lie will help me with the far less successful chipping than I'm used to. Gotta get used to the bigger, more rounded head... With a little more bounce.

I definitely was hitting a few thin as my miss. Not sure if that's the bounce kicking it back up off the floor or what.

We'll give it more tries this afternoon.

On another note, the club face definitely sits more square for me. Easier to square up I feel. And on full swing shots, my miss is a few yards right, whereas my Scor wedge, it is a pull left. Not sure why this is the case... But I like eliminating a pull hitting wedge.

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Irons: :ping-small: Crossover 3 iron (19*) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shaft

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Wedges: Scor 50*, 54*, and 58* with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts

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9 hours ago, TBT said:

Played a full round on Sunday and had several shots with the RTX ZipCore Wedge. I hit 2 full swing shots, 3 -3/4 knock down shots and I “attempted” if you want to call it that 1 43 yard low checking shot.

1 thing I am noticing is I seem to be hitting just about every shot high on the face and out on the toe.
IMG_1164.jpg


*** Keep in mind that the wedges that Cleveland sent us are standard length and lie ***

I play my current gamer at +3/4” and 2 degrees up, so I’m pretty sure that’s accounting for the mishits.

Even though I am hitting the ball out on the toe, I’m still seeing consistent distance and good spin from the ZipCore.

Both full swing shots hit the green and left me 12 feet or less for my birdie.

2 out of the 3 knockdowns were dead online and inside of 6 feet, the other I pulled of the green.

The attempted low checking shot was bladed and flew the green...no fault of the arrow,,definitely the Indian on that one.

I planned on getting the club to my fitter to change the shaft this weekend but Hurricane Laura might have other plans.

Stay tuned!



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I noticed the exact same thing, not quite as far on the toe, when I took them to the range the first time.. They definatly have a different feel about them.. that might be causing the strike location to be off...

 

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Wedges tested with Brand Ball?

I have always wondered how companies go about testing their clubs.  Do they use only their ball? Test the other big brands with their clubs?  A recent conversation with a guy at work sparked this test. I bought some Srixon Z-Stars, and they will be up against the V1, Tour B (X), TP5 Pix, and the AVX.  My thoughts here are, a club is probably designed to perform the best with other products made by the same brand.  Not really sure how I will compare this without launch monitor data, but I think it is a valid test going forward.  
 

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Upper Mass

There is something about having that extra mass moved high and towards the toe.  As a extremely high stock ball hitter, this little nugget of weight helps keep me below the stratosphere.  I have tried the TM Hi-Toe, and I am intrigued in this technology to move the weight around in wedges.  Looking at Greg Norman’s clubs from the by-gone era, the muscle was up top, he hit a low ball with packed with a whole shark-load of spin.  

 25F0A3E1-A0BA-4A5E-8FCF-EB03EDA13FA2.jpeg.33a7b1778a18a43949e7573e490b62e1.jpeg

On the Fence

As a very particular person, I am split right down the middle on buying the 52, and 58 matching wedges.  I like my kit to match, but I need some more time with this 46 on the course before I pull the trigger on two more of these.  As I sit here and enjoy this wonderful cup of coffee, I must seriously contemplate on the other wedges. (Written last week)

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On the Range Again…

Sunday (last week)  was a nasty day, soggy (shoes are still drying). I used the Z-Star, V1, TB X, and the TP5.  It was really windy, and I kept pulling all of the shots, quite annoying.  That bled over into the round, I was pulling or pull hooking a lot of shots.  I won’t be practicing in 30mph winds anymore. 

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Moving Ahead

Played last Wednesday, but only got 9 in.  Posted the picture of the distance.

Played today, and had a major Jekyll and Hyde round.  Backed up on 7, and it all went downhill from there.  +2 on the front and + 10 on the back.  I waited for 15 minutes on one hole to tee off.  Shoulder got a little stiff…(that’s new)

I am seeing some consistent distance with the 46°.  It’s good for 145 ish yards.  Still getting used to the feel, but I only had to use it 3 times today. But the 58° saw work on 13 holes.  Had a lot of shorter approach shots today.  So far, still enjoying the club. I do believe that I will be playing the Tour B X ball full time. 

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Well I spent about 40 minutes chipping and pitching in the sunshine and heat today. I'm still struggling to get my expected distance and flight from the 58*. It really gets the ball up in the air quickly... No matter what type of pitch/chip I'm trying to hit. I can flight my Scor 58*, but not this one. That low, runner from about 15 yards is about darn near impossible. I know that may not seem like a big deal but I normally chip from just off the green with my 58*, where most folks are putting.

Didn't get any full swings in as the heat was a bit much after my chipping and pitching session.

Hopefully 9 holes tomorrow....20200826_151626.jpgScreenshot_20200826-150905_WeatherBug.jpg

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Irons: :ping-small: Crossover 3 iron (19*) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shaft

            :titelist-small: AP3 (4/5) and AP2 (6-PW) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts

Wedges: Scor 50*, 54*, and 58* with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts

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On 8/26/2020 at 1:22 PM, Shankster said:

Wedges tested with Brand Ball?

I have always wondered how companies go about testing their clubs.  Do they use only their ball? Test the other big brands with their clubs?  A recent conversation with a guy at work sparked this test. I bought some Srixon Z-Stars, and they will be up against the V1, Tour B (X), TP5 Pix, and the AVX.  My thoughts here are, a club is probably designed to perform the best with other products made by the same brand.  Not really sure how I will compare this without launch monitor data, but I think it is a valid test going forward.  
 

6E53F1DC-E507-4930-8FF8-02355A8720F4.jpeg.92c37cd64dbcb174c0b85ad67cb866b7.jpeg

Upper Mass

There is something about having that extra mass moved high and towards the toe.  As a extremely high stock ball hitter, this little nugget of weight helps keep me below the stratosphere.  I have tried the TM Hi-Toe, and I am intrigued in this technology to move the weight around in wedges.  Looking at Greg Norman’s clubs from the by-gone era, the muscle was up top, he hit a low ball with packed with a whole shark-load of spin.  

 25F0A3E1-A0BA-4A5E-8FCF-EB03EDA13FA2.jpeg.33a7b1778a18a43949e7573e490b62e1.jpeg

On the Fence

As a very particular person, I am split right down the middle on buying the 52, and 58 matching wedges.  I like my kit to match, but I need some more time with this 46 on the course before I pull the trigger on two more of these.  As I sit here and enjoy this wonderful cup of coffee, I must seriously contemplate on the other wedges. (Written last week)

7FAE71B3-0EA8-4C20-A221-755D6896AACA.jpeg.81136d78e75caf1787d3f326b35b215d.jpeg

On the Range Again…

Sunday (last week)  was a nasty day, soggy (shoes are still drying). I used the Z-Star, V1, TB X, and the TP5.  It was really windy, and I kept pulling all of the shots, quite annoying.  That bled over into the round, I was pulling or pull hooking a lot of shots.  I won’t be practicing in 30mph winds anymore. 

 0C793213-B21E-4A51-85F1-244CCC251074.jpeg.72aa9fb6818bcdf8cac5ffce05b6de59.jpeg

Moving Ahead

Played last Wednesday, but only got 9 in.  Posted the picture of the distance.

Played today, and had a major Jekyll and Hyde round.  Backed up on 7, and it all went downhill from there.  +2 on the front and + 10 on the back.  I waited for 15 minutes on one hole to tee off.  Shoulder got a little stiff…(that’s new)

I am seeing some consistent distance with the 46°.  It’s good for 145 ish yards.  Still getting used to the feel, but I only had to use it 3 times today. But the 58° saw work on 13 holes.  Had a lot of shorter approach shots today.  So far, still enjoying the club. I do believe that I will be playing the Tour B X ball full time. 

 2EF59444-4877-41BB-BEE6-122B67AEBCCB.jpeg.d96d75617e58cc9fbe2c249df0bcdc6b.jpeg

Great visuals. Love the various creative edges you are applying to your photos!

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1 minute ago, artful_golfer said:

Great visuals. Love the various creative edges you are applying to your photos!

Thank you.  I use the Snapseed app on iphone  to frame them if you are interested.  Several different frames and other editing tools to use. 

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Thank you.  I use the Snapseed app on iphone  to frame them if you are interested.  Several different frames and other editing tools to use. 

Thanks for the tip. Yes I am interested. Creativity always ranks at the top in my book.

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My husband played 9 holes with me yesterday evening. I had been practicing in the house with my 56° and 60° and then accidentally left them behind. That issue forced me to use my 46° ZipCore for all wedge shots. I was happy with myself to discover that I can do that! I had a little trouble with distance because I wasn't always sure how much of a swing to take. One shot was short (about a foot off the green), one rolled about 8 ft past the hole, and all of the rest were high and landed on the green at various distances from the pin but stuck where they landed. I think I'll use an earlier suggestion from @downlowkey to make the "Zippy" my go to wedge and practice getting good at several types of shots with it.

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58 and 54 after a round and some practice.... no wedge is going to be perfect in regards to keeping debris out of the grooves, but you can see that these grooves are nice and deep and even if you forget to clean them before a shot you should still get a good amount of spin.

 

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45 minutes ago, GolfSpy Stroker said:

58 and 54 after a round and some practice.... no wedge is going to be perfect in regards to keeping debris out of the grooves, but you can see that these grooves are nice and deep and even if you forget to clean them before a shot you should still get a good amount of spin.

 

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Thanks, now... please go clean those.  🤢

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On 8/26/2020 at 5:06 PM, dhartmann34 said:

Well I spent about 40 minutes chipping and pitching in the sunshine and heat today. I'm still struggling to get my expected distance and flight from the 58*. It really gets the ball up in the air quickly... No matter what type of pitch/chip I'm trying to hit. I can flight my Scor 58*, but not this one. That low, runner from about 15 yards is about darn near impossible. emoji1745.png I know that may not seem like a big deal but I normally chip from just off the green with my 58*, where most folks are putting.

Didn't get any full swings in as the heat was a bit much after my chipping and pitching session.

Hopefully 9 holes tomorrow....20200826_151626.jpgScreenshot_20200826-150905_WeatherBug.jpg

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I played a twilight round yesterday and it was ....

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So I’ve got another launch monitor session in and am on my fourth round in. I’m just not sure this is a “Buy” yet.  To be fair I didn’t settle into my current gamers until after a year. 

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:callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero 9degree. Hosel set to -1degree/Nuetral. Aftermarket 10gram front weight and 6.5 gram sliding weight set to fade. Mitsubishi  Tensei AV Blue Stiff 67 “Tipped” half inch

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:callaway-small: Mac Daddy 4 54, 58

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6 hours ago, BrownBearGolf said:

So I’ve got another launch monitor session in and am on my fourth round in. I’m just not sure this is a “Buy” yet.  To be fair I didn’t settle into my current gamers until after a year. 

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Difficult isn’t it?  I keep going back to my battered TM RocketBladez irons.  I settled in quickly with them because my other set was 1999 technology... but it is hard to move on from them.

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