Sub 70 Pro V2 Fairway Wood - 2024 Forum Review

[JJBack]

5 hours ago, Overspark07 said:

I've been intrigued by the brand and am about an hour away from their physical location and been kicking around the idea of driving down there for a fitting.

4 hours ago, Shrek74 said:

Absolutely go! I wish I was close enough to go. Even if you don't buy anything while you're there, they're really great at the fittings and they're all full of fantastic information. It's absolutely worth going. I may make a pilgrimage up there on a long weekend (12 hr drive or so).

@GolfSpy_KFT and I are just over 2 hours away from Sycamore. We’ve talked about taking a drive down and checking things out.

Edited August 2 by JJBack

[Lefty11]

Just now, JJBack said:

 

 

@GolfSpy_KFT and I are just over 2 hours away from Sycamore. He and I have talked about taking a drive down and checking things out.

Road trip! 

[Shrek74]

1 hour ago, JJBack said:

@GolfSpy_KFT and I are just over 2 hours away from Sycamore. We’ve talked about taking a drive down and checking things out.

[Dcfrench3]

7 hours ago, Shrek74 said:

Question for the testers.

@J7Hawkins is reporting a fade-bias to his 7 wood.

Is this what everyone is experiencing? If there a bias to any direction in anyone's testing?

In my testing I did notice a fade-bias with the original weight configuration (2g near the clubface and 9 g near the back of the club). I switched mine around so I had 10g near the club face and 2g near the back and I didn't seem to notice any fade-bias

[Dcfrench3]

7 hours ago, JJBack said:

Huge shoutout to @Shrek74 for letting me borrow a launch monitor to do some testing with. So far I’ve done 2 sessions comparing my 4 hybrid and the Pro V2 7 wood. Here’s what the data has to say:

1st session (outdoors into net)

2nd Session (garage into net)

Total (so far)

 

This weekend I’m going to try to get out to the range and hit some balls with the launch monitor to see what those numbers look like. I’m also going to play around with the weights in the club to see if that impacts the data. 

Love the stats! I'm going to try and make mine more presentable next time.

[JFish350]

4 hours ago, JJBack said:

 

 

@GolfSpy_KFT and I are just over 2 hours away from Sycamore. We’ve talked about taking a drive down and checking things out.

Its worth the trip. I've been to the 70 a few times and fitted by Kevin. Cool little place and they have drinks if you want and nice little putting green and couple Golden tee games. The town is quant and has at least really nice little bars with good a couple blocks away. It's probably a good thing I don't live closer. 

[JFish350]

5 hours ago, Overspark07 said:

Testers, curious how you all arrived at your shaft selections. I see the stock selections are the HZRDOUS red/blue/black in the 60/70g options.  Was it largely based on what you had in the clubs you were looking to replace? Did any of you speak with Sub70? I've been intrigued by the brand and am about an hour away from their physical location and been kicking around the idea of driving down there for a fitting.

Only an hr, what are you waiting for?? It takes me an HR to get to the airport, fly for 4 hrs into Chicago and then drive an hr to The 70. Then 40 minutes to my daughters place in Aurora. Get over there. 

[JJBack]

7 hours ago, Shrek74 said:

Question for the testers.

@J7Hawkins is reporting a fade-bias to his 7 wood.

Is this what everyone is experiencing? If there a bias to any direction in anyone's testing?

I have noticed some fading with my 7 wood. I don’t know if that can be attributed to the club or just my natural shot shape as a former baseball player. I don’t feel like the fade (slice) is any worse while using the club. 
 

If I can get out to the range this weekend, I’m going to try to get some visual data for shot groupings using the launch monitor. I’ve also thought about finding a full simulator nearby to try to get more ball flight data. 

[GolfSpy_KFT]

@JJBack in regards to a trip to The 70……..

 

[Josh Parker]

13 minutes ago, GolfSpy_KFT said:

@JJBack in regards to a trip to The 70……..

 

I mean it only makes sense......

[JJBack]

20 minutes ago, GolfSpy_KFT said:

@JJBack in regards to a trip to The 70……..

 

[GolfSpy_KFT]

14 minutes ago, Josh Parker said:

I mean it only makes sense......

I mean it really does. @JJBack lives 8 minutes from my house. I’m technically on the way to Illinois if he picks me up

[Josh Parker]

15 minutes ago, GolfSpy_KFT said:

I mean it really does. @JJBack lives 8 minutes from my house. I’m technically on the way to Illinois if he picks me up

[JJBack]

38 minutes ago, GolfSpy_KFT said:

I mean it really does. @JJBack lives 8 minutes from my house. I’m technically on the way to Illinois if he picks me up

It only makes sense. 
 

[J7Hawkins]

23 hours ago, Overspark07 said:

Testers, curious how you all arrived at your shaft selections. I see the stock selections are the HZRDOUS red/blue/black in the 60/70g options.  Was it largely based on what you had in the clubs you were looking to replace? Did any of you speak with Sub70? I've been intrigued by the brand and am about an hour away from their physical location and been kicking around the idea of driving down there for a fitting.

For me, I chase the HZRDUS Blue because I’ve hit it in woods before and I wanted a mid spin model. A fitting is always best, but I feel like I got something that fits me well. 

[J7Hawkins]

18 hours ago, Dcfrench3 said:

In my testing I did notice a fade-bias with the original weight configuration (2g near the clubface and 9 g near the back of the club). I switched mine around so I had 10g near the club face and 2g near the back and I didn't seem to notice any fade-bias

Good to hear I’m not crazy! I’ll flip the weights around today and try it out!

[Shrek74]

18 hours ago, JJBack said:

It only makes sense. 
 

 

[Cannon Safe]

On 8/2/2024 at 5:53 AM, Shrek74 said:

Question for the testers.

@J7Hawkins is reporting a fade-bias to his 7 wood.

Is this what everyone is experiencing? If there a bias to any direction in anyone's testing?

I'm seeing the same. I have a natural fade bias but when I go after it,  it really shows. Ive noticed my ball position plays a larger factor in the fade. When I'm able to focus my swing inside out I get a fairly straight flight. I'm just not able to repeat that very consistently yet.

On 8/2/2024 at 8:24 AM, Overspark07 said:

Testers, curious how you all arrived at your shaft selections. I see the stock selections are the HZRDOUS red/blue/black in the 60/70g options.  Was it largely based on what you had in the clubs you were looking to replace? Did any of you speak with Sub70? I've been intrigued by the brand and am about an hour away from their physical location and been kicking around the idea of driving down there for a fitting.

I did some research before I made my selection of the blue smoke in 70g. I like to think I have a moderate swing tempo,  though I'm starting to get a faster tempo, and the blue smoke was the only one suggested for moderate. I chose the 70g due to suggestions of having your woods shafts slightly heavier than your driver and mine is 60-65g. I didn't chat with anyone from Sub70 though. I'd definitely go check out their place if I was only an hour away. I hope this helps

[Cannon Safe]

Got to play 9 at the home course. I'm getting more opportunities to play the club on the course. Used it out of some rough with the ball above my feet a couple times with good results. I'm still not confident with it, but I blame that on my (lack of) skill with woods. The weather was good and the Knik glacier made it's appearance on the 6th tee. 

Don't mind the obvious evidence of the chunk hit.

 

I had to get a picture of the wind tree. We get hit with some tough winds off the glaciers in this valley. 

I got to the range a couple times with my mlm2pro. My computer went down but I should have my stats from those sessions soon to share. I am noticing a lot of inconsistency in my swing with it. I've been getting a couple good ones in a row followed by some bad ones. So my numbers are a little off. I'm not finding the distance I'm looking for, seeing a lot of 20+ yard roll outs that get to 200 yards but I'm looking for that 185+ carry for these long par 3s. 

I'll end with another nice shot of the scenery 

[GolfSpy_APH]

Curious for those who are using them both off a tee and fairways, much different in height? Would you consider it that much easier off the tee?

[JJBack]

6 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

Curious for those who are using them both off a tee and fairways, much different in height? Would you consider it that much easier off the tee?

If it doesn’t rain today I’m going to head out to the range with my launch monitor. I’ll try to get some data on shots off a tee vs off the deck. 

[JJBack]

On 8/4/2024 at 2:22 AM, GolfSpy_APH said:

Curious for those who are using them both off a tee and fairways, much different in height? Would you consider it that much easier off the tee?

Weather ended up being great yesterday, so I went out to the range yesterday to hit some balls with my launch monitor. After warming up, I hit 10 balls each with my 4 hybrid and Sub 70 Pro V2 7 wood off the deck (one shot with the 4h didn't register, but I didn't notice until later). After that, I hit 12 balls each off a tee. 

[GolfSpy_KFT]

1 hour ago, JJBack said:

Weather ended up being great yesterday, so I went out to the range yesterday to hit some balls with my launch monitor. After warming up, I hit 10 balls each with my 4 hybrid and Sub 70 Pro V2 7 wood off the deck (one shot with the 4h didn't register, but I didn't notice until later). After that, I hit 12 balls each off a tee. 

Those numbers off the tee with the 7 wood...WOW!

[Josh Parker]

1 hour ago, JJBack said:

Weather ended up being great yesterday, so I went out to the range yesterday to hit some balls with my launch monitor. After warming up, I hit 10 balls each with my 4 hybrid and Sub 70 Pro V2 7 wood off the deck (one shot with the 4h didn't register, but I didn't notice until later). After that, I hit 12 balls each off a tee. 

Interesting numbers and comparison between the two. 

[J7Hawkins]

On 8/4/2024 at 2:22 AM, GolfSpy_APH said:

Curious for those who are using them both off a tee and fairways, much different in height? Would you consider it that much easier off the tee?

Thanks to @JJBack for the data from his range session we can actually see the difference tangibly, I do think I am seeing the same results. I don't think I would say it is "easier: off the tee, but it definitely is launching higher off the tee than off the deck.

 

I also hav been playing with different weight configurations and have found that the closer to the same weight you use in the front and back, the easier it is to draw the club. I have settled with a 4g weight in the front and a 8g weight in the back that seems to have maximized forgiveness while giving me a bit less of that "fade-bias" feel.

[JJBack]

1 hour ago, GolfSpy_KFT said:

Those numbers off the tee with the 7 wood...WOW!

One of the big things I notice is that my swing speed was ~3 mph slower hitting the 7 wood off the deck compared to all the other ones, so I’m definitely missing out on some yardage there. 

[Shrek74]

1 hour ago, J7Hawkins said:

I also have been playing with different weight configurations and have found that the closer to the same weight you use in the front and back, the easier it is to draw the club. I have settled with a 4g weight in the front and a 8g weight in the back that seems to have maximized forgiveness while giving me a bit less of that "fade-bias" feel.

Have you found a weight setup that's more of a dead straight, no draw, no fade ball flight on good strikes? Even F/B weights you say are more draw-biased settings and more weight in the rear is more of a higher forgiveness more fade-biased approach. Any thought on a dead straight weight config?

[jbern]

23 hours ago, JJBack said:

Weather ended up being great yesterday, so I went out to the range yesterday to hit some balls with my launch monitor. After warming up, I hit 10 balls each with my 4 hybrid and Sub 70 Pro V2 7 wood off the deck (one shot with the 4h didn't register, but I didn't notice until later). After that, I hit 12 balls each off a tee. 

I didn't average the numbers out myself, but it looks like the average Apex for the Sub70 7W is much higher than your 4hy. Is that what you're finding on the course also?

[Dcfrench3]

Was finally able to take this club out on the course on 8/3/24. Boy it was hot that day. I tried to get as much stats as I could on this day and take pictures with it. I also was a little off today so they could be skewed. Sorry if I missed a few, but playing golf I just like to be in the moment and don’t usually carry my phone.

Red Hawke is a pretty hilly course and has a lot of dog logs. There is a video of the course if you want to see what I was playing on and get a better idea of the holes I was hitting off of. 

Hole #1 – Off Rough ~ 200 Yards
I played this shot which was in the rough a little bit. Being that I am considering maybe switching out my 4 Hybrid I thought it pertinent to try it out here. 

Hole #2 – Off Tee – 209 Yards

Hole #4 – Off Tee – 208 Yards

Hole #7 – Off Tee - 159 Yards

Hole #7 – Off Fairway – 160 Yards

Hole #9 – Off Tee - 168 Yards

Hole #10 – Off Tee - 249 Yards

Hole #12 – Off Tee – 217 Yards

Hole #13 – Off Fairway – 130 Yards

Hole #16 – Off Rough – 56 Yards
I butchered this shot… 

Hole #16 – Off Fairway - ~187 Yards

Hole #18 – Off Fairway – 215 Yards

Sound
This is for the people who requested the sound. I'll let you be the judge. 

   

 

All in all, I really enjoyed playing with this club. While I don’t think I would switch our my 4 Hybrid for when I’m in the rough, I do think I will switch it out with my current 3 wood purely because I like to look and feel more even though my original 3 wood does get a little more distance. I'm going to attempt to get in another TopGolf sessions for more stats.

[Lefty11]

Thanks for the video.  The club really has a nice sound at impact!