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So, Tim and Dave visited Ping, they got custom fit - so... the question really is, was there anything surprising? 

 

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The answer is a resounding YES

 

1) The Ping NFlight Motion Fitting Tool is something that others will be copying, and fitters should be buying. It takes data from ENSO and creates suggestions for shafts plotted on a dot graph based on the data collected during your swing.

 

2) Timmy went and got big boy muscles - I went from being a stiff guy to x-stiff

 

3) Umm, suddenly my 7 iron shots are going 175 - say WHAT????

 

We were led to the VIP fitting area at Ping - yes, somehow Dave and I convinced the higher ups at Ping that we are VIP. The grass driving range has large shade coverings that keep things cool, and even misters for when the Arizona head really kicks in.

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We chatted about my swing, ball flight and what I currently game, and then came the "Dynamic" swing test which Dave already wrote a bit about ENSO and how the data from the beast has been filtered to create the NFlight Motion Fitting Tool utilizing Sky Pro's attachment.

 

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This is most similarly a more advanced version of Mizuno's Fitting System - you take a few swings with the NFlight Motion Fitting Tool attached the bluetooth attached ipad charts your swing into a dot graph of different shafts. The shafts that land nearest your swing in this graph are where we start.

When my fitter showed me the suggested shafts plotted on the ipad I was a bit shocked, I was being bumped up from a stiff to an extra stiff shaft. (yeah, that made me grin) All in the i25 platform.

 

What made me grin even more was that as we started testing shafts, I was crusing a 7 iron 175 yards in the warm Arizona desert. Going through three of the shafts nearest my plot on the graph, we quickly landed on the Dymanic Gold X100 shaft. Everything felt really clean with this shaft, loading, contact, I couldn't believe it was an x-stiff shaft. Finishing things up with irons, we did a lie board check and ended up putting me into Ping's Yellow dot (1.5 degrees upright)

 

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Next up, it was time to "Let the Big Dog Eat!" (guy's trip inside joke) - I originally was most interested in the I25 driver, but my swing had different ideas, and comparing side by side, the G25 stood out as the better fit for me. (guess there's a little Bubba inside this guy afterall)

 

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Again, based on the dot graph for my swing, the driver shafts suggested were Ping's own X-stiff and the Kuro Kage. Bouncing back and forth between the two shafts (and tossing in some others just for comparison) it was clear the Kuro Kage was the winner at 60G (this was achieved through a S-flex tipped 1")

 

Hybrid and 4 wood were also fit similarly and resulted in more Ping's own Tour S-flex for hybrid and the same for the 4 wood.

 

After wrapping things up on the range, we headed indoors for Putter fitting. YES, YOU NEED to be fit for a putter. And it may be as simple as picking up the Ping iPhone cradle and testing yourself. Simply roll a few puts with your phone in the cradle using Pings's iPing app. Then select a putter that matches at the length appropriate.

 

I used to roll ONLY center shafted cause I thought I had a straight back straight through stroke (I'd already learned this wasn't true, but finding out from Ping that I open and close the face a lot more than I'd thought put me into a putter I may have never considered before - the Ping Zing, customized with a sound slot and cut down to 31") (think of Michelle Wie putting)

 

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The app also let me know I needed an Orange Dot putter (that's 2.25 degrees flat)

 

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So, that puts me into:
Driver - G25 10.5 degrees - Kuro Kage 60g Flex-S tipped 1" to Flex-X

4w - G25 - Ping Tour-Stiff

Hybrid - 23 degrees - Ping Tour-Stiff

Irons - 4-L Dynamic Gold X100 

Putter - Ping Zing 31" 2.25 degrees flat (custom sound slot)

 

Now to get out and play these puppies. Initial response coming shortly!

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Nice review Tim.......now let us know how this affects your Handicap in three months.......best of luck to you!

Driver: image.png.6ba1c8a254ad57aa05e527b74c2e04ba.png0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft

Fairways:  image.png.80321f01fc46450b6f428c7daf7b3471.png0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB  regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft

Hybrid: None in bag at the moment

IronsTitleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour

Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm).

Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or  ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707,   or Nike Method Core Drone  w/Evnroll Gravity Grip

Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). 

Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel

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Umm... What's Turtlehead in reference to?

In The Bag
Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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Umm... What's Turtlehead in reference to?

I believe it's exactly what you think it is referencing. I don't even know the full story on that one and I am likely happy I don't...

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Is that a standard fitting set or is it specific to Tim (ie, are those his irons?) LOL

In The Bag
Driver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x 
Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x
3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"
4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400

SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
LW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner
XW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger stepped
Putter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"

Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo.

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I don't know why I missed this earlier - great review!

Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60  Aldila  R flex   - 42.25 inches 

SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft

Ping G410 7, 9 wood  Alta 65 R flex

Srixon ZX5 MK II  5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex

India 52,56 (60 pending)  UST recoil 75's R flex  

Evon roll ER 5 32 inches

It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD   

 

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I have been fitted and re-fitted by Ping on 2 occasions. i am true purple dot on my irons. I am going to get re-fitted again when it's time to purchase my new irons. Ping is in Peoria, AZ and it will be the last thing I do before I move back to California.

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Kenny you just walk in and sign up it's on a  first come first serve basis so get there early. They do close down for lunch. It's a great process and you get fitted properly. Plus if they are doing them you can take a free factory tour

 

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In my opinion Ping has really fallen off. I find myself less and less interested in Ping's clubs, hats, ect...

I'm headed the opposite direction. Never played their clubs or had interest until I got the i25 3 wood. Now I've got that, a hybrid, and am considering a driver.

 

 

The irons and wedges still don't appeal to me 100% just due to the look but my mind has been opened. Now that I've got some of their clubs, I'm allowed to wear their clothing too.

 

 

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In my opinion Ping has really fallen off. I find myself less and less interested in Ping's clubs, hats, ect...

Really?  Have you tried the I200 or  G400 lines?   The Driver is legit and may be the best release this year....yes I realize the Epic was also released this year.  The G400 irons are stupid easy to hit high and straight, and they look much better than previous models.

 

The I200 are some of the most played clubs I see in our Wednesday night league.   

:ping-small: G430 Max 10K 

:titelist-small: TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g

:titelist-small: TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og

:titelist-small: TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R

:titelist-small: T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 

:titelist-small: SM10 48F/54M and58K

:ping-small: S159 48S/52S/56W/60B

:scotty-cameron-1: Select 5.5 Flowback 35" 

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In my opinion Ping has really fallen off. I find myself less and less interested in Ping's clubs, hats, ect...

 

I can perhaps see where you are coming from. Growing up, Ping was innovative by way of odd looking club designs and outside the box thinking. Karsten Solheim really was a genius and his designs have stood the test of time.

 

Ping's now look very similar to many other clubs on the market, but there is no doubt they are still a very innovative company, but it is not the same company Karsten started, they have evolved.

 

 

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I don't know why I missed this earlier - great review!

Your right, I just stumbled over it and enjoyed it.

 

 

 

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Left Hand, 

Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior  
5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56*

Putter; Waaay too many to list

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Thanks for giving us such a detailed write-up of your experience. BTW did they give you a tour of the gold room?

 

 

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:taylormade-small:SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft 

Cobra  Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft
:ping-small:  410  Hybrids 22*, 26*

Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts 

:titelist-small: SM7 54* Wedge

:ping-small: Glide 3.0  60* Wedge

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This is the post that really brought me onboard to MGS. Such an awesome article (and trip).  It's on the bucket list, I've got to experience it first hand! 

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In my opinion Ping has really fallen off. I find myself less and less interested in Ping's clubs, hats, ect...

I kind of feel the other way on this.  If I hadn't already gotten two sets of irons this summer, one for review and the other as a result of a Titleist event, I would have certainly had the G400's on the top of my list for irons.   I am going to demo the G400 Driver at the PGA Show and will definitely pick one up afterward.  

:ping-small: G430 Max 10K 

:titelist-small: TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g

:titelist-small: TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og

:titelist-small: TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R

:titelist-small: T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 

:titelist-small: SM10 48F/54M and58K

:ping-small: S159 48S/52S/56W/60B

:scotty-cameron-1: Select 5.5 Flowback 35" 

:titelist-small: ProV1  Play number 12

 

 

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I kind of feel the other way on this.  If I hadn't already gotten two sets of irons this summer, one for review and the other as a result of a Titleist event, I would have certainly had the G400's on the top of my list for irons.   I am going to demo the G400 Driver at the PGA Show and will definitely pick one up afterward.  

 

Yea me too Rob.   Once I finally get up to Club Champion in Atlanta, I'm going to demo the paint off the G400 with different shafts etc.  

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Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids 
Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 
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I'm looking at upgrading my irons this year and currently the G400s are sitting atop the want list. I just need to go hit them and get fitted to make sure they are what I need.

Driver: Cobra F8 Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 50 Stiff
3 Wood: Callaway Epic 15* Project X Hzrdus T800 65
5 Wood: Callaway Epic 19* Project X Hzrdus T800 65
Irons: Mizuno JPX 900 Forged True Temper XP 105 shafts
Wedges: Mizuno T7 54* and 58*
Putter: Ping Cadence TR Anser 2 Heavy
Ball: Srixon Q-Star Tour

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I'm looking at upgrading my irons this year and currently the G400s are sitting atop the want list. I just need to go hit them and get fitted to make sure they are what I need.

Good luck-please let us know how it goes!

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Driver
:    :ping-small: G410 SFT, set to 9.5*, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60, stiff (MGS Official 2019 Tester)
3W:          :ping-small: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff
5W:          :ping-small: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff
7W:         :ping-small: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff

Irons:       :ping-small: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff
Wedges: :ping-small: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff
Putter:     :ping-small: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials")
Ball:       :Snell: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the :Snell: MTB RED)
Shoes:     :footjoy-small:  Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes

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I'm looking at upgrading my irons this year and currently the G400s are sitting atop the want list. I just need to go hit them and get fitted to make sure they are what I need.

I bought my G400 irons last summer. I tried every demo iron in the store (LH) and chose the Pings over a few other name brands. These irons are not for everyone, nothing is but the Ping line deserves a good look.

 

 

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Left Hand, 

Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior  
5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56*

Putter; Waaay too many to list

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What irons are you using??? That is fairly weak. Most players irons are around 33*-35*. Distance and GI irons will push it to near 30* at times.

What was the loft of that 7 iron ? Mine is 36°.

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3 Wood: :taylormade-small: Stealth Plus+ (14.25*) - Fujikura Ventus Blue 7x Tipped 1"

Driving Iron: :taylormade-small: P790 UDI 2 iron - HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 100 6.5

4 Iron: :taylormade-small: P790 - KBS C-Taper 130 X

Irons (5-7) :taylormade-small: P7MC - KBS C-Taper 130 X

Irons (8-P) :taylormade-small: P7MB - KBS C-Taper 130 X

Wedges: :taylormade-small: MG3 Black 50.09 / 55.11 - KBS TOUR FLT 130 X

60* Wedge: :taylormade-small: High Toe Raw - KBS Tour 130 X

Putter: 5WoCG8Y.jpg Custom Black ER2 or Custom Black :taylormade-small: Del Monte

Bag:  :taylormade-small: FlexTech Stand Bag

Glove:  :taylormade-small: Tour Preferred Glove

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Good luck-please let us know how it goes!

Most certainly will

 

 

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Driver: Cobra F8 Mitsubishi Tensei Blue 50 Stiff
3 Wood: Callaway Epic 15* Project X Hzrdus T800 65
5 Wood: Callaway Epic 19* Project X Hzrdus T800 65
Irons: Mizuno JPX 900 Forged True Temper XP 105 shafts
Wedges: Mizuno T7 54* and 58*
Putter: Ping Cadence TR Anser 2 Heavy
Ball: Srixon Q-Star Tour

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Really?  Have you tried the I200 or  G400 lines?   The Driver is legit and may be the best release this year....yes I realize the Epic was also released this year.  The G400 irons are stupid easy to hit high and straight, and they look much better than previous models.

 

The I200 are some of the most played clubs I see in our Wednesday night league.   

 

I don't think this is really accurate.  Hitting their clubs would change most minds.  G400 is one of the best drivers made. I'm pretty biased, but their products aren't doing anything but getting better.  Not to mention, if you got enough game to bag the iBlade, you'd be hard pressed to find a better looking and better performing players iron.  Everything but their wedges are up there with the best, and they don't do that thing where they slam new products down your throat every other hour.  

Driver:  Ping G LS 9* Aldila Rogue 65 X shaft

Fairway:  Ping G30 15* X

Ping G Crossover 18* X100 Red Dot

Irons:  4-6 i200 7-PW iBlade Red dot x100

Wedges: Vokey SM6 50,54,58

Putter:  Edel or Odyssey 

Ball:  Tour B330

Handicap:  2.4

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I don't think this is really accurate. Hitting their clubs would change most minds. G400 is one of the best drivers made. I'm pretty biased, but their products aren't doing anything but getting better. Not to mention, if you got enough game to bag the iBlade, you'd be hard pressed to find a better looking and better performing players iron. Everything but their wedges are up there with the best, and they don't do that thing where they slam new products down your throat every other hour.

Not sure what you're disagreeing with. Seems to me we are both saying Top to Bottom PING is killing it.

 

 

 

 

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:titelist-small: TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og

:titelist-small: TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R

:titelist-small: T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 

:titelist-small: SM10 48F/54M and58K

:ping-small: S159 48S/52S/56W/60B

:scotty-cameron-1: Select 5.5 Flowback 35" 

:titelist-small: ProV1  Play number 12

 

 

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