MattF Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I prefer out myself but I don't get too hung up on it. My only rant is about those that don't use said rake. In the bag: Driver: Darkspeed X 9° UST Mamiya LIN-Q M40X Blue 7F4 Fairway: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Fairway 14 stand bag Balls: Chrome Tour Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the King, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RookieBlue7 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Out. And personally, wished all courses would sink a piece of 1†pvc to put the handle in and stand them dead vertical. That would eliminate the rake in the bunker and the time saving would be there for maintenance as they wouldn't have to disembark the equipment to move it, just drive nearby and grab it and move it. In The BagDriver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400 SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerLW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerXW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger steppedPutter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Out. And personally, wished all courses would sink a piece of 1†pvc to put the handle in and stand them dead vertical. That would eliminate the rake in the bunker and the time saving would be there for maintenance as they wouldn't have to disembark the equipment to move it, just drive nearby and grab it and move it. It's a great idea, and it probably would work at private CC. However, it wouldn't take long during the day before all the rakes would be on the ground at a muni. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWahoo Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I've played courses where the rakes are provided on the golf carts. Most assuredly, some old coot such as myself, will forget to put it back on the cart and leave it at the bunker. A few holes later, they will need it again and say oh manure, I forgot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peanut05 Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I've always preferred them to be in the bunker. I would much rather have the slim chance that it hits the rake and leaves the bunker over the slim chance that it hits the rake and goes into the bunker if it's left outside the bunker. In my bag: Callaway Epic Subzero with Aldila Rogue Max 75 Stiff shaft Callaway Rogue Subzero with Project X Evenflow 6.0 75g stiff shaft Callaway Rogue 3 Hybrid with Aldila Synergy 60 HYB stiff shaft Callaway Apex irons (4-PW) with True Temper XP 95 stiff shafts Callaway MD3 wedges (50/54/58) SeeMore Original FGP Bridgestone Tour B RX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I've played courses where the rakes are provided on the golf carts. Most assuredly, some old coot such as myself, will forget to put it back on the cart and leave it at the bunker. A few holes later, they will need it again and say oh manure, I forgot. Yeah, I've done that too. On the surface it really seems like a good idea. But when the cart comes back in without the rake, the club really can't send it back out without a rake, and someone has to go out and find it. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullldog Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Out. Biggest reason is that it's easier (simpler rules) to replace ball against said rake outside of a hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I'm an out of the bunker man and I try to leave that sucker so it will impede future shots from rolling in that sob. If it nailed my arse I'm going to give the next man behind me a chance of a lucky bounce away from it. Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreLooper Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I'm an out of the bunker man and I try to leave that sucker so it will impede future shots from rolling in that sob. If it nailed my arse I'm going to give the next man behind me a chance of a lucky bounce away from it.You're a good man, Charlie Brown Sent from my SM-T550 using Tapatalk What's in the bag: Driver - F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S ) 3 Wood (13.5*) - 980F 4 Wood (18*) - F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S ) 3 Hybrid (19*) - RBZ 4i - PW - D7 Forged - Recoil 760 ( S ) 52* - CBX 58* - CBX Full Face 2 Putter - Craz-e Bag - 2.5 (Blue) Ball - AVX Instagram - @hardcorelooper Twitter - @meovino Facebook - mike.eovino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josmi15 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I'm an out of the bunker guy Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Titleist 917D2 10.5 Ben Hogan GS53 3 Wood PING G425 MAX 5 Wood Cleveland UHX Launcher 3 Iron PING G30 5-PW Cleveland RTX 3.0 50/10 V-MG Cleveland RTX 3.0 54/14 V-FG Cleveland RTX 3.0 58/12 V -FG EVNROLL ER-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I used think IN, because if your ball is going in the bunker, and the rake is in the bunker, you get the penalty for being in the bunker. Over the years though, it just makes more sense for playing purposes for them to be out. Grounds crews go out way ahead of play moving rakes isn't going to slow them down so much they can't stsy ahead of play. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I used think IN, because if your ball is going in the bunker, and the rake is in the bunker, you get the penalty for being in the bunker. Over the years though, it just makes more sense for playing purposes for them to be out. Grounds crews go out way ahead of play moving rakes isn't going to slow them down so much they can't stsy ahead of play.Not so much staying ahead of play. Although that does become a factor at times with our first out group which thinks it's a national crises if they don't finish in under 3 hours But more so delays them from moving on to other course maintenance. Being a municipal course, we don't have the budget of privates, thst may have crews of 40 working evey morning Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Not so much staying ahead of play. Although that does become a factor at times with our first out group which thinks it's a national crises if they don't finish in under 3 hours But more so delays them from moving on to other course maintenance. Being a municipal course, we don't have the budget of privates, thst may have crews of 40 working evey morning Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy This is probably more of an issue during the weekday play. Since that's most likely when the other duties would be needed more. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excourse Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I have a completely different idea, eliminate the rakes, period. Bunkers are supposed to be hazards, yet too many tour pros and accomplished amateurs use them as safe havens. Eliminate the darn rakes, and let hazards be hazards for crying out loud. If you don't like tough sand shots, stay the heck put of the bunker! Sent from my SM-N950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app Wishon clubs, Odyssey CS stroke lab putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I have a completely different idea, eliminate the rakes, period. Bunkers are supposed to be hazards, yet too many tour pros and accomplished amateurs use them as safe havens. Eliminate the darn rakes, and let hazards be hazards for crying out loud. If you don't like tough sand shots, stay the heck put of the bunker! Sent from my SM-N950U using MyGolfSpy mobile app When I complained to our Pro about the high rough and some of the bunkers being hard pan. He reminded me that the reason why they're there is to create a penalty for not hitting the fairway. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 The courses here rakes are left in the bunker. Thought process is The maintenance is done mostly in the dark and rakes get chopped up and sometimes damage mowers. So in it is Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 When I complained to our Pro about the high rough and some of the bunkers being hard pan. He reminded me that the reason why they're there is to create a penalty for not hitting the fairway. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Bunkers are supposed to be worth a half a stroke. “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RookieBlue7 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Our bunkers at my home course need significant work. They're placed fine and they play fine when they're wet. But dry, it's like talcum powder. They need to use a different grade of sand in the bunkers that's not so loose IMO. Lots of time spent when a guy glides a wedge right through it and the ball doesn't move. In The BagDriver: TaylorMade M2 (2017) w/ Project X T1100 HZRDUS Handcrafted 65x Strong 3 wood: Taylormade M1 15* w/ ProjectX T1100 HZRDUS handcrafted 75x3 Hybrid: Adams PRO 18* w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4 Hybrid: Adams PRO 20* (bent to 21*) w/ KBS Tour Hybrid S flex tipped 1/2"4-AW: TaylorMade P770 w/ Dynamic Gold Tour Issue Black Onyx S400 SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerLW: 60* Scratch Tour Department (CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold SpinnerXW: 64* Cally XForged Vintage w/ DG X100 8 iron tiger steppedPutter: Nike Method Prototype 006 at 34"Have a ton of back-ups in all categories, but there are always 14 clubs in the bag that differ depending on the course and set-up. Bomb and gouge. Yes, I'm a club gigolo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCSAA Supt Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Outside laying in the direction of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekklss Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 PGA/USGA tournament setup class sets them 5' outside a bunker - handle parallel to fairway pointing in direction of green. Muni's do whatever. Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I know that a bunker is supposed to be a half stroke penalty but for whom and compared to what? A comparable distance from the hole? In what type of lie a comparable distance from the hole? The idea of not tending to bunkers seems wise but is patently unfair for competition. The course conditions will be radically altered. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Always seem them out. And as a former caddy it made my job easier. Extra steps and work if they are down in the bunker. Driver: Titleist 915 D3 w/ Diamana X 70g B4 setting Irons: TaylorMade R7 TP 4-PW S300 shafts 1* upright Titleist Vokey Wedges 50-54-58 Cobra Fly-z 16.5 FW Adams Pro Boxer hybrid 18* 6.5 index, RH, Cleveland, OH Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 PGA/USGA tournament setup class sets them 5' outside a bunker - handle parallel to fairway pointing in direction of green. Muni's do whatever. Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk That's interesting - never knew that. I'll be watching the next tournament. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downlowkey Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Anyone else watching the Valero Open catch the brief rake placement exchange between Ian Baker Finch and Peter Kostis? They both expressed a preference for rake placement inside bunkers. Specifically, they don't like the idea of a rake placed outside causing a ball to end up inside the bunker. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy PXG___0811 X 9* - Mitsubishi Diamana s60 Limited X Cobra___S9-1 Pro 15* - Matrix Ozik XCON 7 S Adams___XTD Forged 3i - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S Adams___CMB 4-PW - Matrix Ozik Program F15 120 S KZG___Tri-Tour 50.08__54.10__58.12 - Accra iCWT 2.0-95i S Nike___Method Converge B1-01 (copper insert) Maxfli___'23 Tour X "The most important shot in golf is the next one“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Anyone else watching the Valero Open catch the brief rake placement exchange between Ian Baker Finch and Peter Kostis? They both expressed a preference for rake placement inside bunkers. Specifically, they don't like the idea of a rake placed outside causing a ball to end up inside the bunker. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy I heard them talking about that. It makes sense what they said, but getting everyone to do it correctly would be impossible. I could see someone leaving a rake right on the edge of the bunker so instead of the ball rolling to the middle of the bunker you end up right under the lip. On a side note did anyone see the horrific lie that Trey M had on that bunker. That was a fried egg + for that one. Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I heard them talking about that. It makes sense what they said, but getting everyone to do it correctly would be impossible. I could see someone leaving a rake right on the edge of the bunker so instead of the ball rolling to the middle of the bunker you end up right under the lip. On a side note did anyone see the horrific lie that Trey M had on that bunker. That was a fried egg + for that one. terrible lie!! He got it out pretty good Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charli Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Both ways have affected my shots before good and bad. So I don't really have a preference. The pros at my club like them out of the bunker so I just leave them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulledabill Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 My home course leaves them in so I leave them in. Not sure that I have personally played a course any different. Not sure if it matters for me to be honest unless they were strategically placed outside not allowing my ball in the bunker. DRIVER: Cobra F9 10.5 Tensei AV Blue 65g 3W- Callway XR PRO 16 stiff 5W- Alpha- Mitsubishi Diamana Redboard w/band Irons- Mizuno JPX 919 Tours with S KBS Tour shafts Hyrbid- TM 4h mid-rescue Vokey- Vokey SM5 51 degrees, SM7 Wedges 54 and 58 1/2 half 3 degrees upright Putter- Taylor Made Rossa Monza Mini Spider Ball-ProV1 and AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPattGolf Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 My preference is out but for some reason I have played a bunch of courses that just can't decide and have the rakes half in the bunker, half up against the edge sticking out... * Staff Professional* Driver: Stealth Plus+ (7.25*) - Fujikura Ventus Black 6X Tipped 1" 3 Wood: Stealth Plus+ (14.25*) - Fujikura Ventus Blue 7x Tipped 1" Driving Iron: P790 UDI 2 iron - HZRDUS Smoke Black RDX 100 6.5 4 Iron: P790 - KBS C-Taper 130 X Irons (5-7) P7MC - KBS C-Taper 130 X Irons (8-P) P7MB - KBS C-Taper 130 X Wedges: MG3 Black 50.09 / 55.11 - KBS TOUR FLT 130 X 60* Wedge: High Toe Raw - KBS Tour 130 X Putter: Custom Black ER2 or Custom Black Del Monte Bag: FlexTech Stand Bag Glove: Tour Preferred Glove Ball: TP5X #11 RangeFinder: R1 Smart Rangefinder Instagram: @dpattgolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 Out. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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