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20 minutes ago, MattWillGolf said:

Those look great. I am a big fan of  BB&F Co ferrules. I just don't as of yet have the skills to do this kind of work. How long did the build take? I have been watching a club builder on YouTube, Jim Mcleery of McGolf Custom clubs. He does a great job of showing the process. I am curious as to what level of detail went into your build. He weighs the components and does frequency checks for flex, spine and flow. That's what he does for a living but I wonder of that level of detail is needed for the average golfer. Thanks for sharing this build.

Thanks man...I am not a professional by any means.  I learned most of the craft from my grandpa who built me my first set and was a believer in Golfworks / Dynacraft / Golfsmith Products. He was an engineer by trade...He held several patents on the world's first Haloid 914 (Xerox) copier and took pride in showing me how to properly build a club.

As far as the specificity of weights and tolerances I will say that I was able to get my swing weights between D2/D3 for the entire set.  I did not overanalyze the set and prefer feel over data.  I think that makes sense without explaining further.  If it feels good, it works good!  

BBF&Co had my eye for a while and I wanted to put my own touch on the set.  They were easy to install on a .355 Taper Shaft and turned out well.  As far as the shafts, that sell was based upon a LOT of quality feedback from MGS members.  As I said before, I was always swinging boardy and stiff shafts.  Amid a COVID tempered golf season, I have been able to put in enough swings to realize that the feel of these shafts gave me a TON of confidence to make better swings.  The flight was consistent and they just perform.

Technically speaking, I am not a believer in spining shafts.  It's just my opinion but I really do not see value in that unless you're consistently breaking par and putting the ball exactly where you want it every time you swing the club.  If anyone wants to discuss further, we can do that another time.  The average golfer could paralyze their brain by over thinking this process.

So as far as building the set I will say this.  TAKE YOUR TIME.  That was the greatest lesson in learning club building.  Don't be afraid to make a mistake, you will.  I hope that helps, if you need any more please let me know, I would be glad to help!

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I’ve written on several posts that I’ve been interested in building a new set of irons this season. As it’s progressed, I pulled the trigger last week and went with a 4-GW setup with Nippon Modus 3 12

You guys have probably seen me post in other threads so sorry for the repeat. Many people in underground component golf brand world don't realize that Wishon was an apprentice of Ralph Maltby back in

Man I'll fight to the death on this one.. Don't care how blasphemous it may sound.. but a flushed TS-1 feels and sounds better than ANY club on the market. Imagine if I started a thread that read

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44 minutes ago, bens197 said:

Thanks man...I am not a professional by any means.  I learned most of the craft from my grandpa who built me my first set and was a believer in Golfworks / Dynacraft / Golfsmith Products. He was an engineer by trade...He held several patents on the world's first Haloid 914 (Xerox) copier and took pride in showing me how to properly build a club.

As far as the specificity of weights and tolerances I will say that I was able to get my swing weights between D2/D3 for the entire set.  I did not overanalyze the set and prefer feel over data.  I think that makes sense without explaining further.  If it feels good, it works good!  

BBF&Co had my eye for a while and I wanted to put my own touch on the set.  They were easy to install on a .355 Taper Shaft and turned out well.  As far as the shafts, that sell was based upon a LOT of quality feedback from MGS members.  As I said before, I was always swinging boardy and stiff shafts.  Amid a COVID tempered golf season, I have been able to put in enough swings to realize that the feel of these shafts gave me a TON of confidence to make better swings.  The flight was consistent and they just perform.

Technically speaking, I am not a believer in spining shafts.  It's just my opinion but I really do not see value in that unless you're consistently breaking par and putting the ball exactly where you want it every time you swing the club.  If anyone wants to discuss further, we can do that another time.  The average golfer could paralyze their brain by over thinking this process.

So as far as building the set I will say this.  TAKE YOUR TIME.  That was the greatest lesson in learning club building.  Don't be afraid to make a mistake, you will.  I hope that helps, if you need any more please let me know, I would be glad to help!

Thanks for the detailed reply. I love that you learned club building from your grandpa. That sounds like a wonderful memory to have.

Other than the basic tools, do you have any club building tools?

 In my younger years I repaired medical equipment in the Army and worked on some xerography equipment for X-Ray. I may have dip my toe in the water of "club building". I'm thinking of ordering some components from Golfworks for a new driver shaft and I have seen some reasonable shaft prices on eBay. That is the cool thing about adjustable drivers.

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36 minutes ago, MattWillGolf said:

Thanks for the detailed reply. I love that you learned club building from your grandpa. That sounds like a wonderful memory to have.

Other than the basic tools, do you have any club building tools?

 In my younger years I repaired medical equipment in the Army and worked on some xerography equipment for X-Ray. I may have dip my toe in the water of "club building". I'm thinking of ordering some components from Golfworks for a new driver shaft and I have seen some reasonable shaft prices on eBay. That is the cool thing about adjustable drivers.

I have a jig for ferrule installs, 120 grit for shaft prep and a vise with a shaft grip so I can do grips. Beyond that it’s not super high-tech, I’d say more along the lines of utilitarian than anything you’d see in a shop. Essentially I found what works for me and I know my limits. 
 

Above all, it’s become a hobby. I stopped playing bagpipes a few years ago and needed another hobby just to help keep my mind fresh and occupied. 

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4 hours ago, bens197 said:

I have a jig for ferrule installs, 120 grit for shaft prep and a vise with a shaft grip so I can do grips. Beyond that it’s not super high-tech, I’d say more along the lines of utilitarian than anything you’d see in a shop. Essentially I found what works for me and I know my limits. 
 

Above all, it’s become a hobby. I stopped playing bagpipes a few years ago and needed another hobby just to help keep my mind fresh and occupied. 

Those tools sound really manageable.

Bagpipes?! You don't hear that everyday! My high school was the fighting Irish. We would have the occasional bagpiper. Can you pipe in the haggis? 🙂

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1 hour ago, MattWillGolf said:

Those tools sound really manageable.

Bagpipes?! You don't hear that everyday! My high school was the fighting Irish. We would have the occasional bagpiper. Can you pipe in the haggis? 🙂

Yeah 8 years of playing with the fire service was enough.  I had to stop for a few reasons namely the fatigue of playing funerals and watching a young deceased dad's kid saluting the casket.  I needed a break.

I did play with a scottish band and we'd play Burns nights for the haggis...an acquired taste even with endless supply of hot sauce!

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Hey question for any of you Maltby players..

Actually 2 questions

1. Anybody get their hands on the TSW wedges yet?

2. Is anybody familiar with the "stock" TT Score shaft offering?

I'm debating if I should order a built club with the Score shaft OR if I should order the head and ferrule and pair it with either a TT DG spinner or S300 that I've got lying around.

The reviews on the shaft seem promising. Just trying to avoid the work of pulling the shaft if I end up not liking it.

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I had not hit the TSW yet but the wedge really has all of rhe modern tech that is making wedges a lot friendlier. Should have great feel as well.

As for the Score LT shafts. They are a legit offering but just happen to be very inexpensive. The have good feel, a higher flight and spin well. I believe they weight in the 115 g area. They were an OEM shaft overrun that Golfworks bought up. They have been so good that they kept the production run going for many many years.
The Score LTs are a great budget option. There is a real reason they have been in production so long.

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I had not hit the TSW yet but the wedge really has all of rhe modern tech that is making wedges a lot friendlier. Should have great feel as well.

As for the Score LT shafts. They are a legit offering but just happen to be very inexpensive. The have good feel, a higher flight and spin well. I believe they weight in the 115 g area. They were an OEM shaft overrun that Golfworks bought up. They have been so good that they kept the production run going for many many years.
The Score LTs are a great budget option. There is a real reason they have been in production so long.

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@popeye64 in case you had any interest in the wedges, myself and a couple others have gotten our hands on the TSW's and have started a review thread :)

https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/38309-maltby-tsw-wedge-5612/

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An update to this project.

I am one of the Hogan PTx Combo testers that is scheduled for the summer.  While they're not an exact type match, the PTx Pro irons will closely resembler the TS1 iron.  I am looking forward to sharing this progress and offer a fair comparison to a players' distance iron and a forged combo set.

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Any update on the PTX pro vs TS-1?  Both are on my radar. Thanks. 

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Thanks @tommc23 
 

I wrecked my back in August and slipped a disc.  I haven’t played since 8/9 so here is what I can say...

They are point and shoot irons. I can’t put into words how good they feel but I have zero buyers remorse. High quality, soft feel and consistent trajectories. I didn’t ever hit a shot and think what the heck just happened there. 

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I've had the TS-1s out for 3 rounds so far. I want to do a comparison and/or review as well. Would definitely be cool to have 2 reviews out around the same time.

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Thanks [mention=72773]tommc23[/mention] 
 
I wrecked my back in August and slipped a disc.  I haven’t played since 8/9 so here is what I can say...
They are point and shoot irons. I can’t put into words how good they feel but I have zero buyers remorse. High quality, soft feel and consistent trajectories. I didn’t ever hit a shot and think what the heck just happened there. 
Would you agree that both sound and feel are weirdly addictive? As in, when you finish a round, you feel like you wanna go straight to the range or back to #1 to keep hitting more shots? And then when you go home, you daydream about how nice they feel and sound?

the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..

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13 minutes ago, bens197 said:


Thanks @tommc23 
 

I wrecked my back in August and slipped a disc.  I haven’t played since 8/9 so here is what I can say...

They are point and shoot irons. I can’t put into words how good they feel but I have zero buyers remorse. High quality, soft feel and consistent trajectories. I didn’t ever hit a shot and think what the heck just happened there. 

Yeesh, man sorry to hear that. Hope you have a full recovery soon!

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Would you agree that both sound and feel are weirdly addictive? As in, when you finish a round, you feel like you wanna go straight to the range or back to #1 to keep hitting more shots? And then when you go home, you daydream about how nice they feel and sound?

the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..
 

I originally built a 7 iron in the spring as a demo. I played one round with it and instantly ordered the balance of the set. While that sounds reactionary, and surely it does, I can say with confidence that I have never felt or played a club like these. 
 

Now wait, Steve you sound like a homer because you just praised the Hogan’s. Let me clarify. 
 

The Hogan’s in their own right are amazing. When I’m playing good golf, they will be in the bag. When I need irons that allow me to be me and give me that extra oomph, it’ll be the TS1s. 
 

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56 minutes ago, ncwoz said:

Yeesh, man sorry to hear that. Hope you have a full recovery soon!

Thank you 😊

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I recently built Maltby TS1 irons, 5-GW. At first I have a Steelfiber 95 Stiff shaft in a 6 iron to demo.  Did not like at all and thought it was the head. Found that the Steelfiber 95s are very tip stiff. Put in an MCA C6 Black Stiff shaft and loved it! Built the remainder of the set. There is no reason to buy OEM stuff and waste a lot of money paying for their advertising and player sponsorships.  This (and other Maltby designs) are as good as any OEM and don't look like they were designed by a committee!  OEMs change their design every 1 to 2 years.  Nearly every change is cosmetic while they tout performance improvements which are not true.

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I recently built Maltby TS1 irons, 5-GW. At first I have a Steelfiber 95 Stiff shaft in a 6 iron to demo.  Did not like at all and thought it was the head. Found that the Steelfiber 95s are very tip stiff. Put in an MCA C6 Black Stiff shaft and loved it! Built the remainder of the set. There is no reason to buy OEM stuff and waste a lot of money paying for their advertising and player sponsorships.  This (and other Maltby designs) are as good as any OEM and don't look like they were designed by a committee!  OEMs change their design every 1 to 2 years.  Nearly every change is cosmetic while they tout performance improvements which are not true.
I'm still claiming my TS-1'S as the best clubs I've EVER hit! I wish I had the kind of influence to get MGS to test or compare these to ANY OEM out there. The MGS community would $#!T itself knowing what a set of these cost and how well they perform on all levels.

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On ‎10‎/‎25‎/‎2020 at 11:56 PM, azstu324 said:

I'm still claiming my TS-1'S as the best clubs I've EVER hit! I wish I had the kind of influence to get MGS to test or compare these to ANY OEM out there. The MGS community would $#!T itself knowing what a set of these cost and how well they perform on all levels.

the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..
 

SHHHHHHHH! If MGS tested them and they did well, Golfworks would be perpetually sold out of everything and prices would probably go up.

I do wish MGS added them to the testing. I suppose it could be Maltby not wanting to send clubs in for testing but I don't know. However, if MGS is willing to test Sub70, Ben Hogan, and all the other DTC companies, I don't know why Maltby couldn't be included. Especially since they offer assembly and pre-built sets with stock configurations. 

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