Dechambeau's eating and you!!!

[Zen Snake]

Now I know allot of you are prolly tired of talking about his food. But you can't deny the fact that what he's done has worked. So, how many of you are not only trying a new fitness regime but have you changed ur diet??? I have, here is on of my 800+ calorie meals from today. Only 3 meals for a total of 2400 Cal's. First meal after a 16 hour fast. This is my specific setup for weightless. I wanna lean out a bit and be healthier overall.

 

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[StrawberryShortCake]

I was bodybuilding for a long time, how serious are you about losing weight? If you want to cut then you want to eat more meals that 3. During cutting I would eat as many as 8 meals to turn my metabolism into a machine. The fewer meals you eat the slower your going to metabolize it. You carbs/fat/protein looks fine but If you want to lean out and keep muscle mass on your going to have to train. Lift heavy in the gym and walk at least an hour a day. Keep the stress levels low (ie walking) so your cortisol stays low. The higher that stress hormone is the more muscle you will lose.

[Zen Snake]

We're avoiding the multi meals due to the 16 hours of fasting. I've had success with fasting and less meal. And yeah I'm killing it in the gym. I'm staying to make my transition from Powerlifting to golf. 4 days of cardio and 3 days of aenarobic and aerobic style exercises. And fasted cardio whenever I can get it in.

I was bodybuilding for a long time, how serious are you about losing weight? If you want to cut then you want to eat more meals that 3. During cutting I would eat as many as 8 meals to turn my metabolism into a machine. The fewer meals you eat the slower your going to metabolize it. You carbs/fat/protein looks fine but If you want to lean out and keep muscle mass on your going to have to train. Lift heavy in the gym and walk at least an hour a day. Keep the stress levels low (ie walking) so your cortisol stays low. The higher that stress hormone is the more muscle you will lose.

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[fixyurdivot]

Fixyurdivot's version of the Bryson diet:

• Two poached eggs, yolk runny, egg cooked, English Muffin with butter and blackberry jam, bowl of mixed fruit and vanilla yogurt for breakfast.
• Leftover Papa Murphy's' Gourmet Vegetarian w/pepperoni (added) for lunch.
• Pulled pork BBQ sandwiches and tossed green salad for dinner.

Fully expecting my wife to say "how about some popcorn" while watching TV afterwards.

Absolutely no idea how many calories or food group pie chart breakout... absolutely could care less. 

[StrawberryShortCake]

1 minute ago, Zen Snake said:

We're avoiding the multi meals due to the 16 hours of fasting. I've had success with fasting and less meal. And yeah I'm killing it in the gym. I'm staying to make my transition from Powerlifting to golf. 4 days of cardio and 3 days of aenarobic and aerobic style exercises. And fasted cardio whenever I can get it in.

 

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Seems like you have a good Idea of what your doing. My suggestion would be to remove as many carbs as you can and eat a high fat high/protein combo. Eat your carbs before exercise or before during your golf round.  I've lost a little big of muscle during this COVID lockdown having the gyms being closed but I feel healthier and fitter. I guess not lugging around and extra 20lbs of muscle is easier on my body. The only reason I had it was aesthetics, no real reason for performance. My drives have gotten a little bit shorter but are more accurate so I'm okay with the loss of less than 20 yards.  

[Zen Snake]

Oh for sure we're keeping carbs under 100grams a day. And at 69grams if I'm not working out. And all my carbs are plant based no breads or pastas.

Seems like you have a good Idea of what your doing. My suggestion would be to remove as many carbs as you can and eat a high fat high/protein combo. Eat your carbs before exercise or before during your golf round.  I've lost a little big of muscle during this COVID lockdown having the gyms being closed but I feel healthier and fitter. I guess not lugging around and extra 20lbs of muscle is easier on my body. The only reason I had it was aesthetics, no real reason for performance. My drives have gotten a little bit shorter but are more accurate so I'm okay with the loss of less than 20 yards.  

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[dlow206]

24 minutes ago, StrawberryShortCake said:

Seems like you have a good Idea of what your doing. My suggestion would be to remove as many carbs as you can and eat a high fat high/protein combo. Eat your carbs before exercise or before during your golf round.  I've lost a little big of muscle during this COVID lockdown having the gyms being closed but I feel healthier and fitter. I guess not lugging around and extra 20lbs of muscle is easier on my body. The only reason I had it was aesthetics, no real reason for performance. My drives have gotten a little bit shorter but are more accurate so I'm okay with the loss of less than 20 yards.  

I gain weight really easy on high fat/high protein. I do much better in terms of weight loss when on a medium carb diet. The real reason is I can better control my total calorie intake than with high fat/high protein. I tend to overeat easily on high fat/high protein. For example, I could eat a large bowl of oatmeal and be reasonably full. But if its steak, 16 to 20 oz is like an appetizer.

[StrawberryShortCake]

3 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

I gain weight really easy on high fat/high protein. I do much better in terms of weight loss when on a medium carb diet. The real reason is I can better control my total calorie intake than with high fat/high protein. I tend to overeat easily on high fat/high protein. For example, I could eat a large bowl of oatmeal and be reasonably full. But if its steak, 16 to 20 oz is like an appetizer.

I totally understand that, I choose to go full retard and weight all my meals when i'm in contest prep mode. I've been weighing my meals for so long I can usually eyeball correct portions. If you have a hard time with over eating try lots of small meals throughout the day instead of the usual american diet of 3 meals. I find eating 6-8 smaller meals i'm satisfied until the next meal. If i'm really peckish and need to eat something I eat vegetables raw. You can pretty much eat as many veggies as you want and it won't affect your overall calorie intake too much. And pickled beans and dill pickles are my go to when I want salty crunchy. Skip the chips and eat as many pickles as you want. (if you have an ulcer you may want to avoid vinegar) 

[NM01]

36 minutes ago, StrawberryShortCake said:

Seems like you have a good Idea of what your doing. My suggestion would be to remove as many carbs as you can and eat a high fat high/protein combo. Eat your carbs before exercise or before during your golf round.  I've lost a little big of muscle during this COVID lockdown having the gyms being closed but I feel healthier and fitter. I guess not lugging around and extra 20lbs of muscle is easier on my body. The only reason I had it was aesthetics, no real reason for performance. My drives have gotten a little bit shorter but are more accurate so I'm okay with the loss of less than 20 yards.  

Low carbs or low fat work about the same in fat loss. The key is that protein stay high as well as fiber.

https://www.biolayne.com/media/videos/video-log/low-carb-vs-low-fat-diets-better-fat-loss/
 

https://www.biolayne.com/media/videos/video-log/are-low-carbs-better/

 

 

[GolfSpy AFG]

On 7/7/2020 at 6:42 PM, StrawberryShortCake said:

If you want to cut then you want to eat more meals that 3. During cutting I would eat as many as 8 meals to turn my metabolism into a machine. The fewer meals you eat the slower your going to metabolize it. 

There's an emerging school of thought that this practice is detrimental in the long run, largely because it negatively impacts one's insulin sentivity.  Hence the value of intermittent fasting.

Like most things, the best solution is likely to employ both tactics in moderation...2-3 days of intermittent fasting, followed by frequent smaller meals, then back to fasting....

[StrawberryShortCake]

8 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

There's an emerging school of thought that this practice is detrimental in the long run, largely because it negatively impacts one's insulin sentivity.  Hence the value of intermittent fasting.

Like most things, the best solution is likely to employ both tactics in moderation...2-3 days of intermittent fasting, followed by frequent smaller meals, then back to fasting....

Could you not do both. Fast for 16 hours and then eat a bunch of small meals throughout your day. Instead of 1-3 big meals have 3-6 smaller meals like your snacking all day long but not Doritos hah.

[GolfSpy AFG]

1 minute ago, StrawberryShortCake said:

Could you not do both. Fast for 16 hours and then eat a bunch of small meals throughout your day. Instead of 1-3 big meals have 3-6 smaller meals like your snacking all day long but not Doritos hah.

I suppose in theory, but how realistic is it to tell someone who's in a cut that they need to get 2 - 2.5K calories into their system in the span of 8 hours, and do it clean?  Short of a ton of shakes that would be pretty tough.

[StrawberryShortCake]

3 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

I suppose in theory, but how realistic is it to tell someone who's in a cut that they need to get 2 - 2.5K calories into their system in the span of 8 hours, and do it clean?  Short of a ton of shakes that would be pretty tough.

Personally I love shakes they taste awesome and get me the protein I need. Eating clean is way harder for me. I have the hardest time getting micronutrients because I'm not a fan of veggies. I eat them because I know I need to but I have to eat them raw because I can't stand mushy cooked veggies. 

[NM01]

55 minutes ago, Getoffmylawn said:

I suppose in theory, but how realistic is it to tell someone who's in a cut that they need to get 2 - 2.5K calories into their system in the span of 8 hours, and do it clean?  Short of a ton of shakes that would be pretty tough.

Well eating a lot clean is hard whether in a cut, bulk or maintenance and second the notion of clean is what of the bad sides of fitness and “dieting” it boils down to nutrient dense and less nutrient dense foods. Eating 80-90% of nutrient dense foods and mixing in some favorite foods has been shown to have more success for people when it comes to sustainability. Getting macros but also micronutrients is key

[GolfSpy AFG]

8 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Well eating a lot clean is hard whether in a cut, bulk or maintenance and second the notion of clean is what of the bad sides of fitness and “dieting” it boils down to nutrient dense and less nutrient dense foods. Eating 80-90% of nutrient dense foods and mixing in some favorite foods has been shown to have more success for people when it comes to sustainability. Getting macros but also micronutrients is key

Most would generally accept clean eating as being absent added sugars, and whole non-processed foods that are free of preservatives, nitrates, etc., and I agree, doing that consistently on a regular basis is tough regardless of your goals.