Pupini 51 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 So my local PGA SS has the 410 on sale for $399. The catch is that they don't have any demo clubs now that the 425 is out so I can test the various shaft options. They have the Evenflow Black, Tour 65 &75, the Alta and the Tensei Orange. I swing between 105-112 so I know it is a stiff, but I'm not what to go with. I think the Evenflow is a bit too heavy for my liking and I am leaning towards the Tour 65. I've read the Tensei has a high launch angle, but I am concerned about spin. Any thoughts or advice is welcome. My other option is to ditch the 410, pay an extra $100-$150 and get a 2021 driver and test the shafts. 1 Quote Driver: 425LST w / KBS TD60 X-Stiff 3-Wood: Callaway Rogue Sub70 699Pro: 5&6 Irons w/ Aldila NV Graphite Shaft - Stiff - 1/2" short Sub70 639CB: 7-PW w/ Aldila NV Graphite Shaft - Stiff - 1/2" short Hybrid - 939X: with Proforce V2 Stiff SM7 50* & 56* Putter: OPAL VICE - Pro Plus Link to post Share on other sites
revkev 22,961 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Of course everyone is different - you saw the MWD results - the 410 LST more than held it's own against anything out there for this season - I would have to thing that whatever little bit extra you'd be getting from another driver is not worth the $100 to $150 you'd be spending. If it's the 410 Plus though I would certainly think long and hard. I have been disappointed with mine - should have stuck with the 400 LST. Good luck Quote Ping G410 - turned down to11.25 degrees, neutral setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex Ping G410 5-9 wood Wilson D7 forged 6-GW - Mamiya recoil 460 R flex SCOR 52,60 EVNRoll ER 5 Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them Currently testing Edison wedges to replace SCORS that are wearing out. Also auditions for the 14th spot in the bag. Current possibilities are a Ping 26 degree hybrid - duplicates the 9 wood or 5 iron but would be used almost exclusively for chipping or Tour Exotics 3 wood simply because you can carry 14 clubs and I might occasionally hit it in certain unusual wind conditions once every four or five rounds. Link to post Share on other sites
Pupini 51 Posted March 3 Author Share Posted March 3 25 minutes ago, revkev said: Of course everyone is different - you saw the MWD results - the 410 LST more than held it's own against anything out there for this season - I would have to thing that whatever little bit extra you'd be getting from another driver is not worth the $100 to $150 you'd be spending. If it's the 410 Plus though I would certainly think long and hard. I have been disappointed with mine - should have stuck with the 400 LST. Good luck Thanks for the feedback. They have lots of options with the plus, a decent amount for the LST and a few SFT. What was it about the Plus that's given you problems? Quote Driver: 425LST w / KBS TD60 X-Stiff 3-Wood: Callaway Rogue Sub70 699Pro: 5&6 Irons w/ Aldila NV Graphite Shaft - Stiff - 1/2" short Sub70 639CB: 7-PW w/ Aldila NV Graphite Shaft - Stiff - 1/2" short Hybrid - 939X: with Proforce V2 Stiff SM7 50* & 56* Putter: OPAL VICE - Pro Plus Link to post Share on other sites
cnosil 17,088 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Don’t judge flex by swing speed; that is an outdated way to pick a shaft. That said it is impossible for us to tell you what shaft or head since we don’t know you launch conditions. The only way to know which shaft to pick is to hit them. That said the ping tour shafts always seem to get great reviews 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: TM-180 Backups: 6330 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to post Share on other sites
fixyurdivot 10,744 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I was among the G410 Official Testers (G410P) and still playing it. I also recently tested the G425 series against my G410, as part of a bag fitting, and none offered any gains in distance, ball flight, or accuracy. Of the three versions, the LST performed best for me. What did offer gain in distance and slightly less dispersion was upgrading the Alta CB Red 55S with a KBS TD 50 Cat 2 shaft. The H2H test above was done using this shaft on the various driver heads. If you haven't done so, ask to get some LM data at the PGASS using the various heads and shafts. Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver | Official 2019 MGS Tester G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w G410 Irons 4-UW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) B61 Putter Link to post Share on other sites
jlukes 13,677 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 47 minutes ago, Pupini said: So my local PGA SS has the 410 on sale for $399. The catch is that they don't have any demo clubs now that the 425 is out so I can test the various shaft options. They have the Evenflow Black, Tour 65 &75, the Alta and the Tensei Orange. I swing between 105-112 so I know it is a stiff, but I'm not what to go with. I think the Evenflow is a bit too heavy for my liking and I am leaning towards the Tour 65. I've read the Tensei has a high launch angle, but I am concerned about spin. Any thoughts or advice is welcome. My other option is to ditch the 410, pay an extra $100-$150 and get a 2021 driver and test the shafts. Spend the extra money and get a fitting and peace of mind. Quote In my BR-D4 Stand Bag G410 LST 9* VA Nemesys 65X G410 LST 14.5* Tour AD DI 7X 818 H2 20* Tour AD DI 85X MP20 HMB 4 Tour AD 95X JPX 919 Tour 5-PW Oban CT 115 X(-) Vokey SM7 50F - 54S - 59D Phantom X 5.5 (2021) ProV1 Link to post Share on other sites
RickyBobby_PR 5,988 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 22 minutes ago, cnosil said: Don’t judge flex by swing speed; that is an outdated way to pick a shaft. That said it is impossible for us to tell you what shaft or head since we don’t know you launch conditions. The only way to know which shaft to pick is to hit them. That said the ping tour shafts always seem to get great reviews 17 minutes ago, jlukes said: Spend the extra money and get a fitting and peace of mind. These two hit the nail on the head Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to post Share on other sites
Thin2win 2,093 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Also, the shafts in the 425 use the same adapter as the 410... so you should be able to swap those out to find a fit... Quote WITB: Driver: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4 FW Wood: F7 17.5° - Fujikura Pro Utility: King Forged 20.5° Utility - Catalyst X Irons: D7 Forged GW-5i - Recoils Wedges: Mac Daddy Forged 52° , 56° Putter: MySpider X Cart: Onewheel XR+ Link to post Share on other sites
Pupini 51 Posted March 3 Author Share Posted March 3 1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said: These two hit the nail on the head Thanks so much for the feedback. I think I will go ahead and buy the LST with a tour shaft. I will take the $100 I am saving on the club and put it towards a fitting. Quote Driver: 425LST w / KBS TD60 X-Stiff 3-Wood: Callaway Rogue Sub70 699Pro: 5&6 Irons w/ Aldila NV Graphite Shaft - Stiff - 1/2" short Sub70 639CB: 7-PW w/ Aldila NV Graphite Shaft - Stiff - 1/2" short Hybrid - 939X: with Proforce V2 Stiff SM7 50* & 56* Putter: OPAL VICE - Pro Plus Link to post Share on other sites
Pupini 51 Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 Thank you again everyone for the advice. I decided to buy the 410 Plus with the tour 65 shaft. While I was there I signed-up for a driver fitting knowing that I can return the club for credit within 90 days if I don't like it or if there is one that is much better suited to my swing. 1 Quote Driver: 425LST w / KBS TD60 X-Stiff 3-Wood: Callaway Rogue Sub70 699Pro: 5&6 Irons w/ Aldila NV Graphite Shaft - Stiff - 1/2" short Sub70 639CB: 7-PW w/ Aldila NV Graphite Shaft - Stiff - 1/2" short Hybrid - 939X: with Proforce V2 Stiff SM7 50* & 56* Putter: OPAL VICE - Pro Plus Link to post Share on other sites
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