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30 minutes ago, tony@CIC said:

As a former ARRCOS user and a subscription hater, I love the SS product and the support. Both my wife and I had V3's and then switched to the X5 when SS offered a special deal to SS users. The X5 intro was a bit bungled but the recent X5 firmware updates have eliminated the bugs. The V3 which you can probably find heavily discounted now is very stable and easy to use. Initially I thought I'd have a problem wearing the SS watch since I do sweat a lot in hot/humid weather but now I never notice it. Being able to quickly glance at the watch for FMB pin positions is also a great feature. Easy to use, easy to download to a phone app after play, very little if any editing  and pretty good stats on both the phone app and the pc dashboard. 

That's awesome. I am sure I wouldn't mind wearing the watch, as I was wearing a fitbit all the time anyway before it died. Might have to replace it with the X5....then I will have all the SS stuffs!

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1 minute ago, DechamBRO said:

That's awesome. I am sure I wouldn't mind wearing the watch, as I was wearing a fitbit all the time anyway before it died. Might have to replace it with the X5....then I will have all the SS stuffs!

FYI the only-non golf info the watch gives you is a step counter. 

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1 hour ago, tony@CIC said:

FYI the only-non golf info the watch gives you is a step counter. 

Arccos now puts yardage numbers on the Apple iPhone Lock Screen  I am told you can take it to your friends ball and it uses that instead of the watch.  

Playing partners can see their yardage.  I have never done that yet.  I walk so I haven’t tried lending it someone yet… 😂

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Quick .02 here. I use an Apple watch with my Arccos and it provides the same info as the SS watch. I love it. 

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On 8/7/2023 at 5:17 AM, Paul Hedrick said:

My Arccos sensors are due to arrive today.  I am looking forward to stop complaining about Shot Scope, and start complaining about Arccos.......

You won't be disappointed. You'll have the pleasure of paying an annual subscription fee for missed shots, added shots, manually editing all of your putts, and constantly referring to your phone on the course 🤦‍♂️ Using an Apple watch or a Samsung watch (made in the last 2 years) offers the same benefit as the SS X5....or the V3 with which you seemed to be content previously 🤔

I gave Arccos a fair trial this season & came away underwhelmed. @DechamBRO gave a concise comparison of the two platforms.

The Caddie feature was originally enticing but is only accurate if your spend time correctly designating every shot as full/positional/etc. The dashboard editing is less-intuitive than Shot Scope's. Additionally, Customer Service is 'non-existent' from Arccos.

I hope you find your peace with Arccos 

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Just an update.. I played my 1st 9 hole round with my new shot scope x5. Let me tell you I already LOVE it! While navigating through the watch is a bit “clunky” and I wasn’t able to get the watch to connect to the app after I had started my round I thoroughly enjoyed this watch. I’ll hopefully in the next few weeks, after a few more rounds and research to learn what some of the data that’s provided means, be doing an unofficial review for anyone that might be interested in my experience.

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15 minutes ago, Coulter said:

I wasn’t able to get the watch to connect to the app after I had started my round

Once Bluetooth connectivity has been set up, the only time you currently connect the watch to the app is to upload your round(s), and maybe check for firmware and course updates. There is no functionality to be gained by connecting to the app while playing, if you even can, unless you have the CONNEX tags or when the update has come out that allows the watch V3/H4/X5 tags to connect to show aerial views of the hole, which is coming soon.

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On 8/8/2023 at 5:42 AM, CudaKota66 said:

You won't be disappointed. You'll have the pleasure of paying an annual subscription fee for missed shots, added shots, manually editing all of your putts, and constantly referring to your phone on the course 🤦‍♂️ Using an Apple watch or a Samsung watch (made in the last 2 years) offers the same benefit as the SS X5....or the V3 with which you seemed to be content previously 🤔

I gave Arccos a fair trial this season & came away underwhelmed. @DechamBRO gave a concise comparison of the two platforms.

The Caddie feature was originally enticing but is only accurate if your spend time correctly designating every shot as full/positional/etc. The dashboard editing is less-intuitive than Shot Scope's. Additionally, Customer Service is 'non-existent' from Arccos.

I hope you find your peace with Arccos 

I am somewhat surprised.  I have found Arccos customer service very good.  Also on the caddie feature, I find taking out shots for each club pretty easy on the App.  The App takes out most non full shots.  

My issue with the AI Caddie is that the AI seems to pick some odd club choices not taking into account tight fairways or bunkers in fairways and always picking Driver on almost any hole.  However, just being able to see course layouts prior to the round was very helpful in getting prepped for some tough courses with tricky carry yardages…

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Today will be my first round after coming back to Arccos.  Most likely there will be a learning curve, as I have forgotten a lot on how Arccos functions.  Still though, I am hopeful.  That said, I still have my Shot Scope V3 and tags! 😋 

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Posted this in Arccos user thread, but I thought more people are looking here….

https://www.golfmonthly.com/features/i-want-arccos-to-be-an-essential-tool-in-your-bag-where-you-cant-imagine-playing-without-it

This is an interesting interview with the CEO of Arccos.

I really think the App and the connectivity is improving.  Sounds like they want to keep improving the Arccos technology / data.

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5 minutes ago, KC Golf said:

I really think the App and the connectivity is improving.  Sounds like they want to keep improving the Arccos technology / data.

Since this is a Arccos vs Shot Scope thread, are you suggesting that Shot Scope isn't and won't continue to keep improving their technology? 😉

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Just now, PhilM75072 said:

Since this is a Arccos vs Shot Scope thread, are you suggesting that Shot Scope isn't and won't continue to keep improving their technology? 😉

Not at all.

I think a lot of people left Arccos for SS, because the connectivity was poor on Arccos.  I am just pointing out that Arccos is getting better.

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I was perusing the Arccos wish list thread. A lot of things people are "wishing for" in that thread, Shot Scope already does. Hmmmm

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