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  1. Ladies and gentlemen it’s finally here!! The Cobra Connect Challenge 3 has officially kicked off . It’s been a late spring here in central Kentucky, why is that relevant, my home course has Bermuda fairways which doesn’t become “playable” until late May early June. This year it’s the first week of June and they’re still not very good. Hopefully in the next few weeks they start filling in nice, hate to hit the new clubs off dirt. I’ve only been seriously playing the game for around 3 years. My swing and game in general are definitely a work in progress. I swing hard, hit it a long way, but generally don’t know where it’s gonna end up. The added distance didn’t really peak my interest in the Cobras, it was the promise of forgiveness. Obviously, like everyone else on this great forum, I’m in love with this game, well, more like a love hate relationship [emoji23]. So far this year I’ve shot 79, all the way to 93 [emoji51]. I guess you could call me a little inconsistent. My bag, before the Cobras, consist of Epic Flash driver, Adams 3 wood and 4 hybrid, Nike VrS forged 4-G, Callaway Mack Daddy forged 56* and 60* and my Scotty Cameron Circa 62. All my clubs were picked up used mostly off eBay. This is what Arccos said my handicap should be after 7-8 rounds. I don’t really understand it all because I shot 3 of my lowest scores ever during that period (18 hole 79, 18 hole 80, 9 hole 37). So not sure how all of that is calculated . But, I guess you can say it worked out, I can’t do anything but go up from here. We’ll see if after several rounds this Arccos levels out and becomes more accurate. This is my first swing with the HRZDUS Smoke 6.5 shaft (which I love). The first couple of shafts felt terrible, can’t remember what they were. Apparently they caused me to keep hitting them off the heel, didn’t realize how important shafts are until that moment. My swing speed with 7 iron during my fitting was 93mph and driver averaged 108, got one up to 113 (ended up being a big hook). My go to 150yd club is my PW, can always count on that trusty PW. I’ve always had a high ball flight throughout the entire bag, with the Cobras it’s no different. My typical miss is when I get lazy and start swaying instead of turning and dead pull it (left for me). If I had one strength it would have to be my distance. My entire game depends on how I’m driving the ball that day. If it’s bad, my entire game suffers, and if it’s good, I can shoot high 70s to low 80s. Mid 80s is my average with the occasional upper 80s low 90s. Official handicap at this moment is 12.2. I’m hoping the hype surrounding the F9s with “ultra forgiveness” is just what the doctor ordered. My first visual impression of the new clubs were just so so. Then once the fitter fixed me up with the right shaft, it took 3 tries, they started looking better. We decided to go with KBS Tour Flight 120 stiff in 4i-58*. With that combo it produced a nice mid-high ball flight with a great spin rate. It was my first ever fitting, so I can’t really say much about that, other than it was better than expected. The guy I had at Golf Headquaters in Louisville KY was very informative and seemed to want to help. Even after I said I wasn’t going to buy from them, they still were very helpful (maybe it was the MGS name drop). You can see how thick the top line is on this 4 iron, and how the “speedback” sticks out at address. But once I hit it, none of that mattered. Cobra says the F9s are made for mid cappers with high SS, so that’s a check and check. Claims of low center of gravity are supposed to help keep the face square through impact. With the long irons there’s a tungsten weight in the heel and toe that seemed to help me launch the ball high and straight. So maybe all the hype isn’t all BS, maybe some of it is actually true. I have had my Cobra F9s for about 3-4 weeks, had several range sessions (8-10) with around 8-10 full rounds. I’m still trying to figure out some of the clubs, mostly long irons. With the last lesson I had, the guy made a couple of tweaks to my grip and transition, now I’m playing a high fade. Which is fine by me, if I can depend on it. For this set to become my gamers they need to be consistently long, straight, and appeasing to my eye. So far I’m loving the yellow. Wether they will or not is going to be an 8 week adventure that all of you get to take with me. So might as well jump on board with Team 153 and join me in the victory circle. If anyone has any questions, something you’re wanting to see, or want me to try something, just ask it in this thread or PM me. Stay tuned for the biggest testing/review of the year!!
    8 points
  2. Thanks boys! I will! I hope it’s ok that I didn’t prepare an acceptance speech! Lol.
    7 points
  3. I think the club fitting business is overlooking a big opportunity to help golfers even more. As many of us know; playing properly fit golf golf equipment is important. I believe a large population of this forum already have that and understand the benefits of playing clubs fit to your swing and ability. However, I think club fitters are missing an opportunity to help golfers even more. At the end of a fitting session club fitter should IMO present a recommendation to their customers for the optimal course length they should be playing. They've already gathered all the data and know how far their customer hits the ball. Driver and irons. Generally speaking a fitting strives to add distance and tighten up the customers shot disbursement. Yes, I know there are many more data points; but increasing a customers distance is usually the King of club fitting. Therefore, at the end of the fitting the club fitter should also be able to present to their customer a range of acceptable yardages they should consider playing from. For example: 6,300 - 6,500 yards. Or perhaps 6,800 - 7,000. Maybe 5,800 - 6,000. The launch monitor will automatically calculate the CPF based on the data gathered. As we all know - men especially; play from the wrong tee (too long!) all to often. So, at the end of the fitting - the fitter hands the customer their data sheet with all the information gathered during the session which also includes a recommended or suggested course length/yardage. Perhaps it's called the CPF - Course Playability Factor. 1.5200 - 5500 2. 5600 - 5900 3. 6000 - 6300 4. 6400 - 6650 5. 6800 - 7000+ EDIT: 9-7-2019 In recent months I've discovered the LongLeaf Tee System. This is probably a better system although more expensive. But it sure makes a hell of a lot of sense. http://www.longleafteesystem.com/
    6 points
  4. It's tough. I mean mentally I always want to move the scoring irons back a touch and the long irons up a touch ball position wise which messes everything up. I have to really pay attention right now and focus on making sure it's always the same until I get used to it. Another thing. The swings. With my long irons I used to sweep a lot more and be less steep opposed to my scoring irons. Now I sort of do that with all my clubs and I just shorten my swing for the scoring clubs so that it doesn't matter to much. It seems to be working. Shot a personal course record 99 today with my second round using these puppies. Booyah.
    6 points
  5. Best round for me to date...41/44 for an 85 with 34 putts. Yes, I actually sunk some flippin' putts today! A 12-footer for bird, 2 others from 20 & 22' for pars and another 12-footer for a par also. In fact pars were the order of the day...8 of them with four-in-a-row to finish the front 9! Driver again was pretty good, but for me to score like this, pretty much everything has to go right. First hole though was a blow-up 8 +4, but I just put it behind me and enjoyed the evening. Happy boy! Added a photo of the scorecard from my Golfshot app...
    6 points
  6. golfertrb

    How'd you play?

    Played at Westwood Park Golf Course in Norman, OK today with my son - just a beautiful day. I had a really great warm up and I've been playing really well as of late but man I just couldn't hit my driver today for the first 13 holes or so. Fortunately it is not a long course at all so I could get around with 3 wood or 2 Crossover. It was weird today I hit a lot of marginal iron shots today that turned out better than I deserved and I thought "I sure am glad I have the irons I do" - I need the forgiveness! FIR: 6/12 GIR: 13/18 Putts: 28 67 (3 under)
    6 points
  7. In conjunction with Cobra/Puma/Arccos MyGolfSpy is proud to present: #CobraCONNECT Challenge 3 The time is here. #CobraConnect Challenge 3 is kicking off earlier than last year and promises to be the most exciting challenge yet. Follow our competitors on their journey as they compete with, and test the full Cobra Golf F9 Lineup from Driver to wedges and everything in between. The competition will span 8 weeks with a variety of weekly challenges plus opportunities for you, the reader, to win great prizes from Puma Golf throughout the season. Challenge Overview: The 5 competitors will be participating in 8 unique challenges over the course of 8 weeks Stats will be tracked using Arccos At the end of each week, the competitors will post their stats and be ranked from 1-5 Baseline HCs with their previous gamers will be used for field leveling Final Prizes will be determined by sum of all rankings PRIZES: Competitors 1st Place: Custom Cobra License Plate Trophy + Head-to-toe PUMA Makeover (hat, polo, pants/shorts, shoes) 2nd Place: PUMA Hat, Polo, Shoes 3rd Place: PUMA Hat, Polo 4th/5th Place: Still get to keep the full set & bag "What's in it for me?" You ask. Forum members with stellar participation skills will be eligible to win weekly prizes as well as a GRAND PRIZE. Be sure to tune in every Sunday night to learn details on this week's challenge! Forum Members Weekly Prizes: PUMA Hat/Shirt or NXT SOLELACE Shoes depending on the week Challenges will vary by week Max 2 wins (still eligible for grand prize) GRAND PRIZE: F9 SpeedBack Driver + Arccos Hand-picked by moderator staff based on overall participation THE HEAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT This lead post will act as your hub for all announcements in the challenge. Be sure to check back here to see where we stand. Links to the key tester posts can be found below: @bardle -- Week 1 - Intro -- Week 7 - Best Shot/Hole @Bucky CC -- Week 1 - Intro -- Week 7 - Best Shot/Hole @Nunfa0 -- Week 1 - Intro -- Week 7 - Best Shot/Hole @palvord -- Week 1 - Intro -- Week 7 - Best Shot/Hole @robertson153 -- Week 1 - Intro -- Week 7 - Best Shot/Hole ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Challenge Schedule -------------------------------------------------------- Week 1 (June 9): Introductions Competitors: Post your introduction and work to earn votes. Forum members will vote on their favorite introduction and the competitors will be ranked by result. Forum Member: Of those that vote in the poll, the winner will be selected by random draw. Prize: The lucky winner this week will receive a Puma Hat and Shirt. RECAP CLICK HERE -------------------------------------------------------- Week 2 (June 16): FIR % Competitors: Enough of the popularity contests, let's see what these guys have got!! Tried and true, we're getting off the tee in fashion to hit some fairways. Our competitors will be graded on their FIR % for the week plus a bonus based on baseline driving handicap. The competitors will also be sharing a 100-word review this week of the driver now that they're putting it to a trial by fire Forum Members: Trivia Time. Keep an eye out on the thread this Saturday. Sometime during the day, I'll post a trivia question based on the testers intros. First person to answer correctly gets the prize. Prize: The lucky winner this week will receive a pair of Puma NXT Solelace Golf Shoes RECAP CLICK HERE -------------------------------------------------------- Week 3 (June 23): GIR% Competitors: No need to fix it if it’s not broken. Here comes another traditional challenge. Our competitors will be graded on their GIR % for the week plus a bonus based on baseline approach handicap. Review: The competitors will also be sharing a 100-word review this week of the irons now that they're putting them to a trial by fire. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Forum Members: Banter like Bryson. Heckling is fun yeah? How about we do it in character. Time to heckle the competitors as if you’re Mr Dechambeau himself. 1 heckle = 1 entry into a wheel spin for a prize. Here’s an example: “You don’t even know the barometric pressure of your 9-iron’s apex!!” Prize: The lucky winner this week will receive a Puma Hat and Shirt. RECAP CLICK HERE -------------------------------------------------------- Week 4 (June 30): Up and Down Competitors: Our competitors will be graded on their Up & Down % for the week plus a bonus based on baseline handicaps. Arccos defines chipping as any shot within 50 yards and they'll also be competing from the sand. Time to see if the wedges just look pretty or actually have solid function as well. Review: The competitors will also be sharing a 100-word review this week of the wedges now that they're putting them to a trial by fire. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Forum Members: Rock it like Rickie. Rickie has been the source of a lot of discussion this year with his iconic mustache and mullet. Let's see yours! To be entered this week, upload a picture of your best mustache and/or mullet. This can be a current real one, a photo from days past, a costume, or even photo shop. There's a lot of flexibility here so let's get creative! Bonus points for wearing Puma in the picture. This week will not be left up to chance as the staff will be picking their favorite. Prize: The lucky winner this week will receive a Puma Hat and Shirt. RECAP CLICK HERE -------------------------------------------------------- Week 5 (July 7): GO FOR IT! Competitors: In a new challenge for this season, the competitors will be whipping out their long game clubs every chance they get. They are free to play whatever tees you want that give maximum usage (OK to move up and back within the same round depending on the hole) and will be awarded points based on the following criteria: 1 Point: Hy/FW shots per round 2 Points: Chips within 2 feet of pin using Hy/FW 3 Points: GIR 5 Points: GUR Review: The competitors will also be sharing a 100-word review this week of the FW and hybrid now that they're putting them to a trial by fire. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Forum Members: Q&A You guys have done a great job asking questions thus far, now it's time to pump it up a notch and learn about anything and everything that hasn't yet been answered. 1 question = 1 entry into the wheel of fate In this instance, there can be dumb questions. Your question only counts if it gets answered by a tester. Prize: The lucky winner this week will receive a Pair of NXT Solelace Golf Shoes RECAP CLICK HERE -------------------------------------------------------- Week 6 (July 14): 4 Clubs, 2 Guys At the outset of the challenge, we tasked the competitors to recruited a teammate for Week 6. Up until recently, the teammates didn't know details of this challenge so kudos to them for being down for whatever. Here's the quick rules: Each player will be using 4 clubs + putter (5 total). None of the 4 clubs can be repeated across teammates. ie. if Player A puts driver in his bag, Player B can not. The scores will be the COMBINED NET between the 2 players (a score of 144 would be net par). We'll be using a net formula that takes into account player HC, course difficulty, and course Par so we're all on a level playing field whether you're on a par 75 monster or a par 62 executive. Playing well on a harder course will help you out here. You can play as many rounds as you like, but only submit one, 18-hole score. You must play the submitted round between 13-21 July Here's the teams we've established: Team Bardle @bardle: 3w, 5i, 8i, 54º @Wedgie: Driver, 3h, 7i, 52º The Super Speeders @Bucky CC : 3h, 7i, 9i, and 54* @revkev : Driver, 7w, 8i, and 52* Kiwi and the Iceman @Nunfa0 : 3h, 7i, PW, and 56* @Apolloshowl : 2i, 6i, 9i, and 54* Weapons of Grass Destruction @palvord : 3w, 7i, PW, 52* @yungkory : Driver, 5i, 8i, 56* The Blue Bloods @robertson153 : 4h, 7i, PW, and 58* @fozcycle : Driver, 5w, 9i, and 53* I already captured everyone's handicaps. To our players, when you're ready to post your scores to this official thread, answer the following template: Date Played Course Course Rating/Slope for tees selected Gross Score Clubs Used and how it felt getting around the course with them Screenshots/Stories of the most memorable shots during your round Sorry to the rest of the forum but this week's Puma Prize will go to the recruited teammate on the winning team. They will get the prize of a Puma hat and shirt and the competitors get ranked like normal. Review: The competitors will also be sharing a 100-word review this week of the Stand or Cart Bag they received now that they're starting to rack up some miles on them RECAP CLICK HERE -------------------------------------------------------- Week 7 (July 21): Best Shot/Hole Competitors: As we reach the home stretch, it's time we give the competitors a week off from playing (should they choose to do so) and bring back one of the fun challenges that Arccos enables: The Best Shot/Hole. Competitors will tell you a tale this week about their best shot or best hole they played during this entire challenge. Screenshots, pictures, and stories are expected. Can anyone top @Joyzee10's MONSTER BOMB from last year? The winner this week will be the player that accumulates the most votes by the time the poll closes on Sunday at 10pm EST. Since the - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Forum Members: By now, you know the drill. Vote for your favorite shot to be entered into a spin for the wheel of fate. The vote gets you one entry and you've got a chance to earn a second entry if you comment in the thread telling us who you voted for and why. Good Luck! Weekly Prize: This week's lucky winner will bring home a Puma Hat and Polo Shirt RECAP CLICK HERE -------------------------------------------------------- Week 8 (July 28): TBD Competitors: Here we are, the final week. There have been all sorts of unique challenges this season focusing on different areas of your game, but now it's time to put it all together for a complete round. This week's challenge: Best Net using Caddie. We'll use the same course-equal-net formula with a twist: Players must use the Arccos Caddie recommendation for every. single. shot. outside 50 yards. Standing on the tee, Arccos recommends different strategies so the competitors can choose their hole-level approach but must hit the clubs it recommends for the distances from there. No system is perfect, so we're giving them an out, at cost. Should the players choose to disregard the Caddie suggestion, they may do so while taking a 1/3 shot penalty. This is also the final week for players to improve their overall-challenge standings. As a reminder, players will be ranked on the following for a double points category: Handicap improvement in each category # of PBs achieved during challenge Most total rounds during challenge Staff-selected best SM/forum presence 100-Word Review: What better time than now for the players to write up their overall impression of Arccos? They've spent the whole summer using it so let's see what they think overall. Specifically, they'll be commenting on Arccos proper, Arccos Caddie, the sensors, and the Smart Grips. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Forum Members: Let's see who's been paying attention. The winner this week will be the forum member that provides the first correct or closest response to the following question: What is the combined HC improvement amongst our 5 testers throughout the challenge with Cobra clubs? We're going to take the baseline handicaps and subtract the handicaps they established with the Cobra clubs throughout the 8 weeks add em all up to get your answer. Math example: @bardle +7 @Bucky CC -1 @Nunfa0 +2 @palvord -2 @robertson153 -15 Total Improvement: 9 HC shots Weekly Prize: This week's prize is BIG ONE. The astute individual will be earning themselves ARCCOS. Either the 360 sensor sets or Smart Grips....your choice! RECAP CLICK HERE -------------------------------------------------------- Overall (August 4): Final, overall category worth double points Competitors: Handicap improvement by category (overall, driving, approach, chipping, sand, putting) Number of "Personal Bests" with Cobra clubs Most total rounds with Cobra clubs during challenge Best Presence (Social Media + Forum Thread) Forum Member: Staff-Selected for best participation in the thread
    5 points
  8. I go with AAA myself as you get better road service [emoji6] I game regular flex in all my clubs [emoji1303] Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    5 points
  9. fozcycle

    How'd you play?

    Rained out after 12 holes yesterday......horrible front, better back. Drying out my equipment today. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    5 points
  10. MattF

    How'd you play?

    This about summed up my round yesterday... Just couldn't get off the tee at all, which led to a lot of positional shots. I'm going to book a driver lesson because it's getting stupid.
    5 points
  11. I told myself I was content with my bag as I updated everything this year except the driver and putter. These reviews have me very curious!
    5 points
  12. Professional speech writers are hard to come by at this time of night. Lol.
    5 points
  13. THEZIPR23

    How'd you play?

    73 7/14 fir 9/18 gir 27 putts Took 9 1/2 holes to figure out which end of the club to hold. Only hit 2 greens on front 9. Short game and putting saved what could have been an ugly score. Crazy a$$ game we play.
    5 points
  14. Wait, this is the internet, doesn't everyone play XX flex?
    5 points
  15. Rickp

    What flex is your shaft?

    I was playing A senior flex. This week I was fitted and put me into a R regular flex and a heavier shaft. It seems to work. I believe you have to try your club of choice with the different shafts available to get the right combination. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    5 points
  16. There’s two things to remember; 1st; 72 year olds don’t heal real fast. 2nd; I forgot, what was the 1st? Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    5 points
  17. Well for roughly 45 years, I've played this game, and heard lots of Hole In One stories, and have only witnessed 1 in all those years. Today, I witnessed a second one....that came from MY CLUB!! That's right my first ever Hole In One in our Thursday Morning League. Here's the specs: 145 yards back pin PING G410 6 hybrid (it was into the wind ) ProV1X #12 CG2 stamped Looked good the entire way landed just over the ridge and fed toward the flag, the actual hole is hidden due to the ridge, but when we got up there and I didn't see it on the green, I thought..."oh man it ran off the back!!) didn't see it anywhere in the fringe as i was walking to the green, so I took the obligatory look in the hole and there it was. I honestly don't remember what I said or did, but one of my playing partners said, he wishes he had a camera for the expression on my face! Pretty much shock and I didn't believe it. In the picture you'll see a Closest to the pin marker on the hole, it was a good shot in of itself about 10 feet to the right of the pin, I'm sure someone will be upset. So oh yeah, I mentioned two achievements. So that was just one very good hole of a very good round. I shot 39/43 for a personal best 82. Funny thing, the hole in one was not on the nine with the 39. Sadly that 43 was a result of two holes not being able to concentrate after the HIO, Taking a triple and double in 2 of the next three holes.
    4 points
  18. Bummer on the poor play - no doubt you’re making the right move. I’m a former base player myself (college - not a great player but still had to take all those BP reps). There are lots of similarities in the swings but enough differences to cause some issues. I actually visualize pitching far more than hitting with SuperSpeed - I was a catcher so i had to understand pitching mechanics well. Good luck - let us know here or elsewhere when you get your swing back in sync - you will. :) Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    4 points
  19. As my favorite Naval Aviator would say...
    4 points
  20. chisag

    How'd you play?

    ...LOL, so true. We have all been there done that. And a lesson is always a good idea. ... But those pictures remind of why I stopped using video for students that hit the ball pretty well but just needed some fine tuning, myself included. It is so tempting to take an Arnie "swing your swing" that doesn't look like you think it does and agonize over positions or how it looks overall, only to lose the things that work well trying to change it. Don't get me wrong, video is very valuable and many people can learn a lot from it. But the flip side are those that want their swing to be the very best they can be and chase aesthetics, not results. After all the camera hates Furyk, JB Holmes, Kuchar and Matsuyama but the scorecard doesn't care.
    4 points
  21. I'd have to take you out if I told ya jk...... My aha comes and goes and mostly goes because I get in too big of a hurry and that's when the dookie hits the fan. I MUST take time to go through the same pre shot routine prior to hitting a golf ball. I do a couple of waggles, position the club about three inches behind the ball, slight forward press which starts the swing and then straight back and up. If I don't do this, I get flatter than Aunt Jemima's hot pancakes. When I go flat, I get stuck behind or I flip and either way ain't pretty. It's a simple aha but so critical to my consistency
    4 points
  22. Its Finallyyyyyy Timeeeee!!!!! Welcome everyone! The first thing I want to do it is thank MGS and Cobra for letting me be a part of this incredible challenge. Being a high handicapper, I wasn’t sure I’d get an opportunity like this but I know there others out there like me, so I’m hoping I can be of service to you. My name is Bradley, I’m 29 and I live just north of Atlanta. I’m married and we have two pups, one of which is my profile pic, and we have a 7 month old little girl who is my pride and joy. Warning: Adorable kid pic incoming: I’ve been golfing a year and a half or so now. My first round ever was at my in-laws Thanksgiving “Turkey Open” family scramble where I played for fun with my brother-in-law and father-in-law. It was a blast, I was terrible, but I had so much fun that I’ve never looked back. Here are my current gamer clubs: Driver: Cobra F7 - Aldila 2KNV Stiff shaft Irons: Taylormade Rocketbladez Stiff 4-PW Wedges: Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 52º / 56º / 60º So hows my golf game? Yeah it’s okay, I try to not be too hard on myself being pretty new to the game but I am a perfectionist and I hate being bad at anything. I recently joined a club that is well known to be the hardest course in the immediate area. This was intentional because I want to be better at the game. I play the blues which sit at a 72.8 / 136 and 6,600 yards long. It’s probably way too tough for me. My first round I shot a 113, since then I’ve come back down and currently my average score is around a 102. I have yet to break 100 at my new course in a full 18 hole round. That being said its teaching me the premium of keeping the ball in play as the rough is extremely punishing on most holes and it forces me to play shots I never would have before. Here’s my baseline stats with my pre-cobra gamers. I am the epitome of the high handicapper golfer, inconsistent ball striking with some good shots sprinkled in. I 3 putt sometimes, sometimes I don’t. I hit a power slice when my Driver isn't working, but overall the biggest problem with my golf game is inconsistency with my irons. Pretty standard stuff and if you’re over an 18 handicap everything I am saying here probably resonates with you. Some more details: Driving wise, you can see my average dispersion is only 20 yards, but I have a big time two way miss, I’ve been holding back on the tee lately in an effort to hit fairways more and lose less balls. The problem is that gives me a 4 or 5 iron into alot of the greens. Here’s my usage chart on my clubs from arccos: You can see that leaving myself short off the tee means my 4 and 5 iron are used more than anything else. I almost never am in range to use a scoring club to get to the green reliably. Because of this, my approach stats show what I already know is the truth, I'm short alot... Short, short, short. Left and right aren’t nearly the issue here. Its thinning and chunking long irons that cause all the problems. As you can see a lot of my approach shots are 30 yards or more short of the green, which means I’m constantly hitting short pitches into the green and trying to save par. With my handicap I don’t mind missing greens, I expect it, the real problem is the distance I’m leaving everything short. It makes chipping or pitching anything close very difficult. The greens I play on are really fast, I know everyone says that, but they are the fastest I have played in my limited time golfing and pitching from 30+ yards often leaves me far away from the pin. If I’m greenside but off the fringe and I can’t putt it, I do fairly well. When I move the slider in, I’m averaging 6 to 8 ft from 15 yards and in on chipping, The problem is that only 11% of my baseline chips are inside 15 yards… Sand.... I’m a 22 handicap, the only beach I do well on has a chair and a cooler full of beer on it, not a golf ball. Seriously though, I leave sand shots short primarily, I’m always scared of sending them over the green or thinning them. Most of the time I can get out in one, but I do have the occasional 3-peat to get out of a high lipped trap. On to The Fun Part That was a lot, you guys still with me? I saved the best part for last. First let’s hit the high notes and walk through what my fitting revealed and the clubs I chose: The Bag: Driver: F9 9º Degree head, Evenflow White T1100 X Stiff Woods: 3/4 Wood, Evenflow White T1100 X Stiff Hybrid: 3 Hybrid, Aldila 2KNV Green X Stiff Irons: One Length F9’s 4-PW, Modus3 Tour 105’s Stiff Wedges: King Black Wedges in 50º / 54º / 58º Bag: Black / Black Stand Bag (I freaking love this thing) Fitting Overview: So I saw a cobra fitter, without going into too much detail. I swing hard and put a lot of torque on the butt of my clubs shaft. So he selected shafts for me that basically have no butt end and pretty much demanded that I go with X Stiff in all my woods and hybrids to prevent whipping and increase control. He also suggested that I go with a D4 swing weight on my irons, especially if I was going one length because of my size, he was concerned that I’d get too loose and wouldn’t be able to control the clubs if they weighed in at their stock D0 swing weight. My irons and wedges are also 1 inch longer than standard and the grips are like +4 wraps or something, which is an adjustment, but they do feel a lot better to hold. I also went with a 3 hybrid and a 3 wood. My 4 iron is typically right around 200 yards. So I need some extra distance to recover from poor tee shots or hit long 2nd shots into par 5’s. So I went with the 3 Hybrid hoping for a 215-235 club and a 3 wood for something just over that, 230 - 260 or so would be great. We have a few tight par 4’s that require a limited tee shot and a little more control than a driver usually gives me. So I’m hoping I can hit those fairways a little more consistently with these clubs. BUT WHY ONE LENGTHS?!?!?! I hear all of you screaming, I’m the only one length tester in this crew. Cobra swears these things work. They have a lot of tech in them to make them work. Progressive shaft weighting to make the same shaft work and gapping consistent, Wider soles in the 4-6 irons to help with launch and trajectory on top of all of the standard F9 features like Progressive Hosel lengths, E9 Pwrshell face, etc... You get it. You read everyone else’s intros too. What you really want to know is do these things work? Can a high handicapper like myself really be more consistent just because all of his irons are the same length. You’ve seen my approach stats, you know I need something to help me. I chose them because I want to eliminate some variables. I think too much as it is on the course. Take away ball position and swing changes due to shaft length and I think I can improve my consistency. I really feel like that is all that’s left in my game to take me from a 20+ index to a mid handicapper. Whats it gonna take for them to stay? My old set isn't exactly nice, but one thing I have with them is consistent gapping. My old wedges are great, I hit them well when I get to hit them, My driver might not be the most accurate, but when I have good days with it, I have really really good days. For the Cobras to hang around, what I really need to see is consistency throughout the bag. I need my driver dispersion to be tighter and preferably limited to a one way miss, I obviously need consistent contact with the One length irons, since thats kind of the point. The wedges have the most to live up too as the XW-1's I reviewed are very good, but the lower lofts have to help with gapping and consistency. It would be nice to be able to use that 58º reliably. I know, thats a lot to ask of the arrow, but I feel like I'm close to being a better golfer and I'm hoping these clubs can help mitigate some bad habits I have and get me shooting the scores that I feel like I should be. Lets make it rain with questions folks, especially with regards to the One Lengths, I'll do my best to answer everything I can.
    4 points
  23. Tough to sleep with this view so here is my Stage one posted a bit earlier then expected! https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/31988-2019-official-forum-member-review-odyssey-stroke-lab-putter/?do=findComment&comment=546074 Hope you all enjoy! Have my 3rd round with this putter coming up in 4 hours .... so far been great experience. As well first on course putt with it was drained from 30 foot. I wish I had a video, because it was quite comical. @goaliewales14 at some point sooner rather then later I’ll set that drill up along with the camera and get a video to see the difference between to two or three putters!
    4 points
  24. I still can not believe how much I love this putter, it completely transformed the weakest club in my bag into the strongest. That NEVER happens by just making an equipment change. I've said it before, and I'll probably say it again, you are doing yourself a disservice if you don't consider an armlock putter. It's still unfathomable to me how awesome this club is.
    4 points
  25. One test I would be curious to see for this review, would be the gateway drill. If you put a tee on the toe and heel of the putter, does the Odyssey putter make it through cleaner and more often than your current gamers? Basically, is it giving you a more consistent stroke at impact to hit the center of the face?
    4 points
  26. PMookie

    How'd you play?

    Man, I’d love to have less than 30 putts one day!!!! Awesome!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
    4 points
  27. Hey a few pages back someone asked how/of SuperSpeed has impacted our scoring. I had a 7.0 index when I started. I’m a 5.1 right now trending 3.6 - last three scores 77,70,77. First sub par 18 in five years. During that time I had lost about 20 yards off the tee. Guess what the difference is.... Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    4 points
  28. With as many times as you change teams I’m beginning to think you’re Drake.
    4 points
  29. On the shaft labels I play x in my driver, three wood and hybrid with an s in my irons. According to CPMs I am heavy x in the driver and three wood, mid x in the hybrid and x in all my irons and wedges. Labels don’t tell the entire story. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    4 points
  30. It's been a rainy day here in Georgia so I had plenty of time to check out your reviews. First of all no doubt you all did your homework and came to class with all sorts of interesting findings with the Ping G410 woods. Each one of you shared your results with an individual and no holds barred style. Loved it! I still have my Ping G400 Max in the wings while I''m bagging my main squeeze (Cally XR16). Although two of the big driver reviews I was interested in were enlightening, I'll stay the course. Thanks guys for your dedication to quality and all of us at MGS are extremely proud of your efforts!
    4 points
  31. GolfSpy MPR

    Got Problems?

    Had a bummer today. Enjoying a beautiful today at my parents' house on the lake. My dad just got a boat. The kids were going out for a second boat ride, and I thought I'd get some nice drone footage of them. Drone got caught in a tough wind, and it couldn't fight through. Ended up being pushed into the trees along the shore and plunged into the lake. [sniffle] I managed to fish it out and pulled the battery. Currently drying, and I'll let it keep drying for a couple of days. It's not crazy expensive, but it was $100 and was a Christmas present to me from my wife. Hoping that it lives, but I can't say that I'm optimistic.
    4 points
  32. Well guys I’ve been following this Test closely and ALL Reviews are well done, great job guys. I and now pretty certain in a few weeks when I can swing a Driver again the first I try will be the Ping G410. I’ve already told the fitter to have a LH G410 Driver warmed up and ready! Great job guys! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    4 points
  33. Excited to be bringing you all some good info and a in-depth review of the stroke lab putter. Just finished one round at Northumberland Links in Pugwash Nova Scotia home to some amazing greens and have a round tomorrow morning at fox Harb'r. Add that in with some practice this evening and lots to dive into. Stage one will be up either Sunday evening however more likely Monday. We also already have one awesome stage one up to read! Stay tuned for me to come and please don't hesitate to jump in and ask us if there is anything specific you want to see or hear our opinion on!
    4 points
  34. GolfSpy_BNG

    How'd you play?

    Shot an 42/42 for an 84. I had 34 putts today but they recently punched the greens so I think that realistically probably cost me 3-4 strokes. My 5w and wedges saved me today. The driver was extremely inconsistent and I couldn’t hit my irons to save my life. Good thing I got some new Prowler VT’s coming to test! I am so close to breaking 80 already this year I can taste it. I shooting for at least 5 rounds in the 70’s and par for 9 holes this year so I am well on my way! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    4 points
  35. Jmikecpa

    How'd you play?

    Hit it well but could not score. Terrible 79 today that should have been at least 8 shots lower. #15 sums up my day. Drive through the fairway into the waste bunker, hybrid to 8 feet from 204 into the wind....3 putt bogey. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    4 points
  36. Just checking in with some successes and updates. A few weeks ago, I had to stop working through the second protocol due to a pulled muscle in my back that had been bothering me since February. I decided I could either continue the SS protocols or continue playing golf, but not both because the pain was getting to be unbearable. My back is finally starting to feel better, and I'm happy to report the time off hasn't killed my numbers any. Last week while warming up for a scramble, my Voice Caddie recorded driver swing speeds of 104, 105 and 107 MPH! That's huge for me. I'm excited to continue working through the protocol and milking some more gains this season yet hopefully.
    3 points
  37. Chinese, province of Plunk. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    3 points
  38. gbtrsc

    An Aha moment

    Two of them: first I found I had been bending over too much at the waist at address. Worked on better posture and started hitting the ball much more solidly and accurately. Second, my wedge play has been terrible for at least a couple of years. Discovered that I had started to address wedges with a somewhat closed clubface. This led to lower loft and basically took away the bounce. My wedge game of late has been much better, and lower scores have resulted. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    3 points
  39. GB13

    What flex is your shaft?

    That actually isn't unusual at all. A lot of players play weaker flexes in their wedges since they are used for more "controlled" shots and don't need the extra stiffness to stabilize the shaft. It also can provide better feel around the green.
    3 points
  40. To short answer you, no. I have not seen a loss of distance or twisting with the new clubs. But you have to remember I gamed SGI irons before these, so maybe it would be different for someone who didn’t.(?) Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    3 points
  41. It is simply called Golfshot, and indeed it works with my Moto Z Android. I tried 18-Birdies briefly, but found I like this one better because it allowed me to enter all my club data in and has a simple "track my shot" feature that you saw here. I've only used the "free" version so far and am too chicken to upgrade yet to one of their subscriptions which adds even more features, but so far so good. Also, that day was the first time I used it mainly for this thread.
    3 points
  42. For as long as I can remember, I've played stiff shafts. I did a driver fitting last Thanksgiving, and ended up with a Graphite Design YS-Six in X flex, even though my clubhead speed was 98-100 mph. As I understand it, the X flex did a better job of lowering spin. I have no complaints, I gained 15 yards or so.
    3 points
  43. Par 3 12th at Windmill again, 178 yard 4 iron onto the green.
    3 points
  44. I'm a "tweener" Driver SS is low to mid 90's (mostly low), but a stiff flex usually fits me better and that is based mostly on feel. In fact, all my shafts are now of the stiff variety. I started with R-flex with everything and had awful results. After being fitted to a stiff shaft for my first ever driver fitting last year, I have since upgraded all equipment to stiff with very positive results across the board. Are they perfect? No. But they "feel" right and I am comfortable with them all. I can also certainly tell the difference between R & S and R for me just feels like a noodle. I believe for me it has a lot to do with my semi-violent transition... My 2-cents.
    3 points
  45. They are in completely different ballparks. The rougue is very muted and almost mushy sounding. The flash is higher pitched and somewhat tingy. I still have my rogue. I’ll try to get a sound comparison tomorrow on the range for you.
    3 points
  46. I was not looking for a new driver as my rogue was sufficient and only a previous generation. The testing opportunity came up and was selected. This club has blown my mind. It continues to perform and perform at a level higher than I expected. If you are in the market definitely give it a try.
    3 points
  47. Guys and gals, just a reminder---you can play as many 9 hole HRC rounds as you want to. Best score for the month is the one that counts!
    3 points
  48. Epic flash 5 wood. Trying to fill hole between 4 iron and 3w. Of course I have been trying for 10 years to fill it.
    3 points
  49. My only problem with bug zappers and slapping mosquitoes? They kill those things far too quickly. Mosquitoes deserve a much slower, more agonizing death.
    3 points
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