Ryan Learns to Golf Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) This is my first topic on the forum! I started golfing last August with a box set from Amazon and learning from Youtube videos. I first took a series of group lessons, tried out a few coaches, and then I started working weekly with a coach that I felt I clicked with. We've been making some great progress with my ball striking, but sometimes I feel like when we build in more feels or improve something else in the swing, some of the wheels start falling off again and I feel like I'm regressing. It can get quite frustrating. I just wanted to find out from some of the more experienced members of the forum how long it took them before they felt "good" at the game. I put "good" in quotes because I'm not really using an objective metric - more wondering about what your own opinions of "good" are and when did you all start feeling confident on the course. Was there an "Aha!" moment that lead to that confidence? Edited April 10, 2019 by scratchmybirdie Clarity PING Apologist #9, tony@CIC, ole gray and 3 others 6 Quote Driver: M4 D-Type 3 Wood: SIM 2 Max 3HL Hybrid: Rogue X 18* Hybrid: TS2 21* Irons: Rogue 5-AW Wedges: SM7 54*08M, 60*04L Putter: Wilson Infinite West Loop Link to comment
Kanoito Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Welcome to the forum! I'm still waiting for that day to come... I think golfers are never satisfied enough to feel "good". When my friends tell me they are bored of golf, I ask them: did you beat the game? It's not like a video game where you finish after beating the last boss. If you play off 30, your next goal is 20, then 10... then single... then scratch... why stop there? Let's make it + For me it's a neverending quest for perfection (same quest for the perfect club) and I'm far far from reaching it. But yeah, my current swing coach is the best one I've had (and I've gone through 4-5). I book 12 lesson blocks and go to him about once a month after I've practiced enough what we learned last time. JohnSmalls, Ryan Learns to Golf, 00sportsman and 5 others 8 Quote SpeedZone 9* w/ Aldila Rogue Silver 60 S X2 Hot 3 Deep 14.5* w/ Aldila Tour Green 75 S JetSpeed 5W 19* w/ Matrix Velox T 69 S OR Super LS 3H 19* w/ Kuro Kage Black 80 S JPX919 Forged 4-PW w/ Modus3 105 S Vokey SM7 50/08F, 54/14F & 58/08M w/ Modus3 115 Wedge ER1 34" w/ SuperStroke Fatso 2.0 Pro / H2NO Lite Cart Bag / 3.0 / NX7 Pro LRF My reviews: MLA Putter // Titleist SM7 // PING i500 // PuttOUT Link to comment
Alf. S Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) Welcome to the Forum and I agree with Kanoito. No matter how you play, you'll still say I left a few shots out there. Your definition of good will differ from mine but overriding I think of good as being able to play to or beat your handicap I've been playing competitive golf for 18 years. I'm never satisfied, started at 22 h/c, target was to get into Cat 3 (12-20), came down to 16, next was Cat 2 (6-12) came down to 12, next single figures now at 7. Next target is Cat 1 (0-5). On the way I have won medals, match play, doubles and opens which make the journey more enjoyable. They are bonuses along the way. BTW I very rarely take lessons maybe that's why it has taken me so long to get down to 7. I sort of know the mechanics of my swing and will tend to try and sort things out myself. An hour on the range with 18 years of different swing thoughts is usually enough time to sort things. What I really need is a mind coach. 4 over after 15 holes on Saturday and looking at a nice cut, 5 over for the last 3. EYG (Enjoy Your Golf) Edited April 10, 2019 by Alf. S 00sportsman, M. Parsons, Ryan Learns to Golf and 3 others 6 Quote WIMB Driver Callaway Epic 10.5' Fujikura Stiff 3W Callaway Epic 15' Fujikura Stiff 3-AW Srixon Z565 Nippon Stiff 52', 56' Cleveland RTX 585 Wedges Putter Taylormade Rosa Daytona Bags 2017 Callaway Org14 Cart bag or 2018 Srixon Z start Carry bag Link to comment
perseveringgolfer Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Welcome to MGS forums, hope you stay and join in. I would agree that 'good' is beating your handicap and if you are there or thereabouts regularly then you are def good. I started with an 18 h/cap and got down to 5 in my first season, but I was playing and practising everyday. The other caveat to that was I did play with friends at the local muni a few times the previous year with 5 assorted clubs from different manufacturers (one even had a wooden shaft and dimples in the face not grooves) so I was able to move the ball forward with my own swing that was grooved from constantly reading John Jacobs book 'Practical Golf' which was full of simple drawings making it easy to understand the swing. Instruction is now so technical with a plethora of data and P1-P6 essentials. Glad I learned with simple drawings. Worth checking that book out, I still look back on it when I'm in trouble for a simple cure. 00sportsman, MattF, Ryan Learns to Golf and 2 others 5 Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment
SteddyGolf Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Golf is the most difficult game to master that I’ve ever played. It takes solid fundamentals and hours of practice to condition muscle memory to the point where you can consistently hit the ball square on the club face to the desired distance. Identifying a time stamped target number is very difficult because it varies so greatly based on a number of factors. I’m a low single digit handicap player and I still rarely feel like I’m good. Perfect practice leads to perfect performance. Imperfect practice leads to inconsistency and frustration. Taking lessons early and often coupled with range work over actually playing Golf will set you up for the best opportunity to improve more quickly. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 00sportsman, tony@CIC, MattF and 2 others 4 1 Quote Miura MB 502 Irons ping G400 Driver Cobra F7 3 wood Mizuno putter Mizuno Wedges. Link to comment
MattF Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Dunno...it hasn't happened yet and to be honest, I don't think I'll ever class myself as good. Right now I'll say I'm terribly mediocre with some flashes of good mixed with quite a bit of bulls%$#. silver & black, perseveringgolfer, JohnSmalls and 5 others 5 3 Quote In the bag: Driver: Darkspeed X 9° UST Mamiya LIN-Q M40X Blue 7F4 Fairway: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Fairway 14 stand bag Balls: Chrome Tour Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the King, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to comment
Shankster Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I naturally suck at the game, my least crappy season was 2017 as an adult. Best part is I have no idea what the heck I was doing to copy it. I did spend at least 1 hour a day practicing my short game, and hit the range at least 3 times a week and played at least once. I’ll never be good to my standards again I don’t think.Good luck anyways. MattF, edingc, 00sportsman and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment
00sportsman Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Welcome to the forums. I hope you enjoy it as much as I do. I realized I was "good" when I wasn't anymore. I was much better when I was 18 than I am now. As soon as I started to really suck, that's when I realized I'd been "good." I expect that happens to other people as well as they get older, fatter and less flexible. I'd like to be better, but I'm satisfied with having a good time. I don't have the time or resources to practice that much and can only squeeze in a round per week at most, so I'm resigned to my fate. Don't worry about the feeling that you're going backwards sometimes. It's entirely to be expected, and 25 years of coaching HS sports has taught me it's really common when there's a lot of progress made in a short time. Think about how much better you must be getting if your coach is adding to what you're already doing. A good coach wouldn't do that if you weren't progressing. perseveringgolfer, Shankster, palvord and 5 others 8 Quote I always try to remember that I'm not good enough to get mad! My Bag: G400 Max G30 3W King S9-1 5W Aeroburner 3 Rescue/Hybrid G400 5-UW RTX4 52* and 56* 2Bar Mallet Traverse II Cart Bag Link to comment
ballplayer002003 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Welcome to the site! That is a funny question, how long to get "good". I think you will find that most golfers will say they are not there yet. A lot of really good players (single digit handicappers) will say, "I'm okay" but most will not say they are good. I have been playing for 20 years and I am a 7 handicap. I still don't think of myself as being good. I am forever chasing that I guess. I want to be good at this game and I don't think I am there by any stretch of the imagination. A lot of my friends would say I am good, but I am a 7 and not say a 2. To me, a 2 handicap is a good golfer, why, because they are a lot better then me. However, to them I am sure they would say I want to be scratch. A scratch player they would classify as good. So long story short, I guess getting "good" is really ones perception of good. Just keep chasing the term "good" and you will love this game. You will hit "good" shots, you will have "good" rounds and you will play on "good" courses. Enjoy the process and keep working on your game! Cheers! PING Apologist #9, MattF, ole gray and 4 others 7 Quote Driver: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g 3 Wood: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff 5 Wood : Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff 4 Hybrid: TSi3 Hzdrs Smoke X flex Irons: 5-7 Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X 9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X Wedges: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex Putter: Scotty Cameron Phantom 5.5 34" Link to comment
CarlH Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I've never gotten "good", but I have gotten better. I started playing at age 37 and have been playing for 30 years. I started out like most, being unable to break 100. Took lessons, read books, went to golf schools, still take lessons now and then. Although I got down to a 7 handicap, there was always something wrong with my game. Obviously there was something wrong as I was only a 7 handicap. There's always something to work on in the game, be it your full swing, your chipping, or your putting....something is always awry. And, just when you think that you've "found it" or have reached that "aha moment", golf jumps up and bites you in your arse and says "no, you don't". I believe that I reached that level of confidence in my game when I felt that I could play alongside a better golfer comfortably -- that is, not being embarrassed by my play. Yes, I wasn't as good as some of my playing partners, but I could enjoy the round with them and not feel intimidated by their skill level. This confidence has little to do with being "good" and more with accepting where you are with your progress. Golf is not a game of perfect, as Dr Rotella would say. M. Parsons, ole gray, JohnSmalls and 4 others 7 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at -1 and neutral) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft Ball: Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: Pioneer...Shoes: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment
silver & black Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I'll let you know when it happens, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. tony@CIC, PING Apologist #9 and MattF 3 Quote Link to comment
cnosil Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 You question is very subjective and I won’t answer the “good” part but the aha moment part. I was a 90s golfer and was tired of scoring in the 90s so I took some lessons. The lessons changed what I did and my swing became uncomfortable. After a few weeks I went out and s*** a 76. At that aha moment I knew I had the potential to play well I just needed to train myself to play at that level consistently. tony@CIC, JohnSmalls, silver & black and 6 others 9 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: XCG7 Beta 15* w/Fujikura Fuel Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
palvord Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Welcome to MGS, and great question! As you mentioned, "good", is a relative term for everyone. What has helped me has been defining what I want out of golf. As @SteddyGolf mentioned, this is one of the most difficult sports to master and the game has a way of humbling you time and time again. Personally, I want golf to provide me an avenue to spend time with my friends and family. In order for that time to be enjoyable, I cannot allow my ridiculously ego driven expectations for my game to ruin the experience of being with the people I love. If I can walk off the course, driving range, or practice green feeling like I had fun and did something to get better, I say that was me being "good" at golf. perseveringgolfer, Ryan Learns to Golf, ole gray and 4 others 7 Quote In my Ultralight Stand Bag: Driver: Rogue 10.5° - LH - Project X EvenFlow 60 Stiff Woods: King F9 - LH - 3/4 Wood - Atmos Blue TS 7 Stiff King F9 - LH - 5/6 Wood - Atmos Blue TS 7 Stiff Irons: King F9 - LH - 5-GW - KBS C-Taper Lite Stiff Wedges: King Black - LH - 52° 56° 60° - KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 Stiff Putter: - Impact No. 3 Ball: Maxfli TourX Rangefinder: LX5 Watch Link to comment
Ryan Learns to Golf Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 Thanks for the great feedback everyone! It's awesome to see how there are so many humble golfers out there even though they're at levels I'm looking to reach. I enjoy the hard work it's taking to see that incremental improvement (although my wallet isn't enjoying the cost). Yes, my question was intentionally phrased to be subjective. I'm a finance quant and data geek, but I also like hearing about people's subjective feelings towards the sport and their own games so I was asking more for the mental side of the game. I often find that when I'm standing at that first tee, I feel unsure about where my game is at that day and don't feel all that confident that I'm going to play well. Then after a few holes I feel like everything is ok, and I get into a flow. Does anyone find that goes away with experience, or do you all still find yourselves feeling nervous as well? silver & black 1 Quote Driver: M4 D-Type 3 Wood: SIM 2 Max 3HL Hybrid: Rogue X 18* Hybrid: TS2 21* Irons: Rogue 5-AW Wedges: SM7 54*08M, 60*04L Putter: Wilson Infinite West Loop Link to comment
CarlH Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, scratchmybirdie said: Then after a few holes I feel like everything is ok, and I get into a flow. Does anyone find that goes away with experience, or do you all still find yourselves feeling nervous as well? I still get nervous on the first tee of any tournament, but once I'm off the tee, I'm okay. Other times I get nervous is when I'm playing particularly well and I have a chance to shoot low or break a previously held personal best. Years ago, I couldn't break 80 and I asked the asst. pro, who happened to be a former LPGA player, what I could do to get past that point as I had shot 80-82 many times on that course. Her reply...."what are you thinking about on hole 15?" I quit focusing on that and shot 78 the next day. M. Parsons and Ryan Learns to Golf 2 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at -1 and neutral) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft Ball: Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: Pioneer...Shoes: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment
Ryan Learns to Golf Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, CarlH said: I've never gotten "good", but I have gotten better. I started playing at age 37 and have been playing for 30 years. I started out like most, being unable to break 100. Took lessons, read books, went to golf schools, still take lessons now and then. Although I got down to a 7 handicap, there was always something wrong with my game. Obviously there was something wrong as I was only a 7 handicap. There's always something to work on in the game, be it your full swing, your chipping, or your putting....something is always awry. And, just when you think that you've "found it" or have reached that "aha moment", golf jumps up and bites you in your arse and says "no, you don't". I believe that I reached that level of confidence in my game when I felt that I could play alongside a better golfer comfortably -- that is, not being embarrassed by my play. Yes, I wasn't as good as some of my playing partners, but I could enjoy the round with them and not feel intimidated by their skill level. This confidence has little to do with being "good" and more with accepting where you are with your progress. Golf is not a game of perfect, as Dr Rotella would say. That's exactly how I've been feeling with these two steps forward one step back progress I've been making. Golf can feel really brutal sometimes haha. I really like your story of when you started feeling confident because I feel like that's the type of confidence I'm looking for. I can get pretty competitive in just about anything, and I want to be able to play with better, more experienced golfers without slowing down pace of play. Edited April 10, 2019 by scratchmybirdie tony@CIC and CarlH 2 Quote Driver: M4 D-Type 3 Wood: SIM 2 Max 3HL Hybrid: Rogue X 18* Hybrid: TS2 21* Irons: Rogue 5-AW Wedges: SM7 54*08M, 60*04L Putter: Wilson Infinite West Loop Link to comment
MattF Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 2 hours ago, cnosil said: After a few weeks I went out and s*** a 76. I wish I could s*** a 76... SeeMore Putts, M. Parsons, PING Apologist #9 and 2 others 4 1 Quote In the bag: Driver: Darkspeed X 9° UST Mamiya LIN-Q M40X Blue 7F4 Fairway: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Fairway 14 stand bag Balls: Chrome Tour Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the King, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to comment
fozcycle Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Started playing at age 8, now age 68......so still working at it. silver & black, MattF, CarlH and 3 others 6 Quote Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment
PMookie Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I still feel like I’m not “good” because I can shoot 76 and 91 in subsequent rounds in the city championship. Good would be 76 both days.... I have to big a margin of scoring right now. Frustrating, so I can’t say I’m good... Still!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro PING Apologist #9, perseveringgolfer, cnosil and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment
yungkory Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 36 minutes ago, PMookie said: I still feel like I’m not “good” because I can shoot 76 and 91 in subsequent rounds in the city championship. Good would be 76 both days.... I have to big a margin of scoring right now. Frustrating, so I can’t say I’m good... Still! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 76 is in the very upper echelon of scoring numbers. I forget the breakdown, but I'm willing to guess only like 5% (and that might be generous) of golfers shoot 4 over par. You are good, maybe not consistent, but good. M. Parsons, MattF, tony@CIC and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: LAB Link.1 Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment
chisag Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 11 hours ago, Kanoito said: If you play off 30, your next goal is 20, then 10... then single... then scratch... why stop there? Let's make it + For me it's a neverending quest for perfection (same quest for the perfect club) and I'm far far from reaching i ... You have pretty much described my journey. Finally made it to a + index last year. Of course I want to improve that index now. I started playing at age 30 and found the game pretty easy and pretty difficult at the same time. The problem for most of us is wanting more. I think most could swing within themselves satisfied with decent distance from their tee shots and decent irons shots. But really, who is satisfied with decent? If we drive it relatively straight as a beginner and 220yds why not strive for 240? And of course if we can manage to get to 240, why not 260 ... or more? That is golf for most of us. ... Perfection is unachievable, but getting as close to perfection on any given shot is the goal. Every golfer is different, with varying physical skills, hand eye coordination, mental toughness and desire. Having a realistic goal for your physical and mental ability is key and some will get better faster than others, but everyone can get better. That's what makes this game so addicting. PlaidJacket, Ryan Learns to Golf, MattF and 3 others 6 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... AutoFlex Dream 7 SF405 Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Diamana LTD 65r DHy #4 ... Steelfiber 780Hy Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli/ Maxfli Tour/TP5x Link to comment
M. Parsons Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 5 hours ago, CarlH said: There's always something to work on in the game, be it your full swing, your chipping, or your putting....something is always awry. And, just when you think that you've "found it" or have reached that "aha moment", golf jumps up and bites you in your arse and says "no, you don't". I couldn't agree more. There is always something new that you'll need to work on, I say stay focused on the short game and putting. I've had +40 putts in one round and 27 the next week. Aha moment: Seeing as how I play to a 19 you probably wouldn't believe me if I told you that less than 2 years ago I shot an Even par 36 on a local 9 hole course. I thought I had really figured things out, then after a long 6 month lay-off, I went back out and found out that I had developed the shanks, which lead to scores in the 100's and high 90's. It's getting better now that the shanks are gone, but it's no where close to Even par ("good") again. Keep having fun and the "good" will come. BTW, welcome to the forums, hope you enjoy it as much as I have. Ryan Learns to Golf and MattF 2 Quote In my BR-D4 6-way King F9 set to 9*, Tour length Hzrdus Smoke Black 6.0 S-flex, with GolfPride MCC +4 mid-size 3W - 13*, UST Mamiya 65 Gold S-flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G SIM UDI 2-iron - 18*, Mitsubishi Diamana Thump 100 X-flex, with GolfPride MCC Align ZX5 4-5 & ZX7 6-PW, Modus3 120 Tour S-flex, +1/2", with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G - SM8 Tour Chrome, 50.08F - 54.10S - 58.12D, DG Wedge Flex, with GolfPride Tour Wrap 2G Custom Fit 35" ER6 Red at 68 degree lie angle and 4 degrees of loft MTB-X NX7 Pro Slope Tracked by #WPS Link to comment
Ryan Learns to Golf Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, PMookie said: I still feel like I’m not “good” because I can shoot 76 and 91 in subsequent rounds in the city championship. Good would be 76 both days.... I have to big a margin of scoring right now. Frustrating, so I can’t say I’m good... Still! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Well done! 76 feels like a long ways off for me but looking forward to getting there Quote Driver: M4 D-Type 3 Wood: SIM 2 Max 3HL Hybrid: Rogue X 18* Hybrid: TS2 21* Irons: Rogue 5-AW Wedges: SM7 54*08M, 60*04L Putter: Wilson Infinite West Loop Link to comment
PlaidJacket Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 54 years I suppose. I started playing at 10. I've roller-coastered some through the years for various reasons. If I had to pin point one thing that actually improved my game and made me better it was this: Playing with guys that were much better then me. Some of you regulars around here have heard the story before so I won't repeat it in length. Basically, if you are able to find a group of regular players either at a club or muni; get in their game if you can and often. Try and play with the better players as much as possible. This happened to me back in the 80's at a club I joined. I knew a few members so it made things easy for me to get in their game. Each Saturday we'd pair up into foursomes and play a match which mostly consisted of various bets - team and individual. I was fortunate in that about 1/2 of these players were actually very good. Scratch to low single digit caps. Except for a couple of cocky ones these guys were more than willing to offer advice and tips solicited and unsolicited which I gladly accepted. Seemed I always picked up something from these guys. Their style of play was even a lesson to me and which I tried to emulate. To me they seemed to know everything. Over the course of about 2 years my game steadily improved - my hcp. dropped to a upper single digit and I started to become more competitive. Instead of always being "the D" player I was now a B player at times. Golf sure got a lot more fun... and interesting too. I also became one of the guys and had the time of my life. These days I'm playing the most consistent golf ever and I can play with anyone of any ability and enjoy it. tony@CIC, MattF, Grand Stranded and 1 other 4 Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment
PlaidJacket Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, chisag said: ... Perfection is unachievable, but getting as close to perfection on any given shot is the goal. Every golfer is different, with varying physical skills, hand eye coordination, mental toughness and desire. Having a realistic goal for your physical and mental ability is key and some will get better faster than others, but everyone can get better. That's what makes this game so addicting. Amen brother!! This whole discussion is like sitting around the men's locker room after a round. tony@CIC 1 Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment
SeeMore Putts Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 You question is very subjective and I won’t answer the “good” part but the aha moment part. I was a 90s golfer and was tired of scoring in the 90s so I took some lessons. The lessons changed what I did and my swing became uncomfortable. After a few weeks I went out and s*** a 76. At that aha moment I knew I had the potential to play well I just needed to train myself to play at that level consistently. Damn, who is your teacher?? I've been taking lessons for two years, and I've definitely improved but not in the 70s yet.But I remember shooting a 102 when I first started and thinking "Man, I'm good." If I did that today I'd rage quit for a month. It's all relative. Sent from my Nexus 6P using MyGolfSpy mobile app tony@CIC 1 Quote Driver - Big Bertha Alpha 3W - XHot Pro 3 Hybrid - Rescue 11 4-PW - Maltby DBM Forged 52 - SM4 56 - RTX-3 60 - Scratch SS Putter - FGP Link to comment
cnosil Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 2 hours ago, SeeMore Putts said: Damn, who is your teacher?? I've been taking lessons for two years, and I've definitely improved but not in the 70s yet. But I remember shooting a 102 when I first started and thinking "Man, I'm good." If I did that today I'd rage quit for a month. It's all relative. Sent from my Nexus 6P using MyGolfSpy mobile app Since my first lessons when I was a teenager, I had a decent swing. When I started with this particular instructor he asked why I wasn't a better player since I had a good swing. We worked on come consistency issues and made a few small tweaks and it came together,. How do you determine potential? Look at the course you typically play and write down the best score you have had on each hole. What is that score? Probably better than you think you can score. Ryan Learns to Golf, tony@CIC, MattF and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: XCG7 Beta 15* w/Fujikura Fuel Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment
TSauer Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Still on my way. Feeling like I'll never get there haha. MattF and tony@CIC 2 Quote Driver: Aerojet 9* | Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Fairway: G410 3W 13* | Alta CB 65 Hybrid: TS2 18* | Tensei AV Blue 70 S Hybrid: iCrossover 20* | Kai'li White 80 Irons: P790 5-PW | DG S300 Wedges: Vokey SM9 | 52, 56, 60 | DG S200 Putter: Link.1 | Accra x LAB --- LAB Golf Link.1 Review --- Link to comment
robertson153 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I play to a 11 handicap and I’ll be the first to say I think I’m good. What I mean is I can, by the national average, beat over 74% of amateur golfers. Sure I can shoot 90 but I can go out and shoot 77 (done it 3 times last year) so I know I have the potential. But today I played with a guy that shot 70 (2 under) and wasn’t happy. I’ll never be satisfied where I’m at, and I think most will say the same thing. If you set goals, reach those goals, set new goals, reach them and continue to do that, I think you’re good. Some people will disagree with that logic but who cares. It’s your game and your opinion if you’re “good” or not. Everyone has a different view on good. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy cnosil, MattF and tony@CIC 2 1 Quote CobraConnectChallenge3 Link to comment
PING Apologist #9 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 "Good" subject and welcome into the forums from Idaho! "Good" is what "good" does...(to carve up a famous movie line), so to be "good" is totally relative to the golfer himself and to those around him/her as observers. I'm pretty sure I know a "good" golfer when I see it, and I also think I know when I'm "good" at golfing, which is unfortunately rare but sometimes pops up. In our scramble group, the lines of good and not so good are very clear. Of the 4 of us, we have one clear "good" golfer. He handicaps us sloths by hitting from the tips, giving us "pops" on the harder holes and just generally mops the floor with us. He doesn't keep a handicap, but I'd bet he's 10 or below. He's GOOD! Would I like to be that way? Sure? Do I have the time and drive to hammer-down and become consistently good-er...not yet at this point in my life. So to answer your root question (finally), I have no frickin' idear…! One of these days, maybe I'll have better experience to answer this question. Until then, I'll plod along as a weekend warrior who is just happy to be out in the open air 2-3 times a month plowing fields and knocking bark off of the random tree. Glad to have you aboard! Stay engaged and I hope you find your "good" soon 'nuff! Cheers! tony@CIC and MattF 2 Quote In my DLX Cart Bag: Driver: G410 SFT, set to 9.5*, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60, stiff (MGS Official 2019 Tester) 3W: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 5W: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 7W: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff Irons: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff Wedges: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff Putter: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials") Ball: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the MTB RED) Shoes: Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes Disabled Marine Veteran. Semper Fi! #No apologies, just Play Your Best #Powertotheplayers Link to comment
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