LIVE THREAD-PInehurst MGS Invitational

[JeremyD]

A lot of great stuff here. I wish I was home for this, but glad my excuse was to see my son graduate.

[EasyPutter]

1 hour ago, JeremyD said:

A lot of great stuff here. I wish I was home for this, but glad my excuse was to see my son graduate.

There were sounds of a graduation not too far away when we were playing Mid South on Saturday morning and on one hole on Pine Needles in the afternoon was a graduation party in a backyard overlooking the green.  Seriously the cheering from the celebration gave the impression we were playing on course for a championship and the best foursomes were just a short distance away making incredible shots.

[Tom the Golf Nut]

2 hours ago, GolfSpy BOS said:

And a fake lefty at that!!!

 

So when this happens to me, I take a screenshot of the photo on my phone and upload that one.  I think I've figured out that this issue has to do with the multi-lens cameras on phones.  Certain combinations end up reading upside down.  Of course, I'm NOT an engineer, so don't ask me how to fix the software.  

I have had the same issue. The fix is to open the picture. Hit edit. Rotate, shrink it a little and save it. Then it comes in correctly.

[GolfSpy AFG]

8 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

 

Still early days, but in the next week or two we will look to put something out to gather interest on a larger trip which would be happening in 2025. 

Interested.  Very very interested....

[Javs]

8 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

 

Still early days, but in the next week or two we will look to put something out to gather interest on a larger trip which would be happening in 2025. 

Very interested!

[StrokerAce]

16 hours ago, GolfSpy_APH said:

And what if we got one planned for Scotland?

...checking flights now!

[Golfspy_CG2]

On 6/14/2023 at 3:03 PM, McGolf said:

 

Great job on the video Jim.   Also thanks to everyone for the intros, it makes putting names, faces and personalities together, and by personalities, I mean @Jwc5149 of course  

 

On 6/14/2023 at 3:48 PM, cksurfdude said:

Hey we all really appreciate the time and effort you put in to making it all happen for us!! Thx

..and maybe we all just have to congregate, unexpectedly and unannounced, at your course someday!

My course is always open!   well except for those days where I have done an exceptionally good job of selling and we fill all 36 with outings

 

 

[Golfspy_CG2]

On 6/14/2023 at 3:20 PM, chisag said:

 

 

... Awesome video for those not on the trip, thanks McGolf! (Porno music scared me as I was watching with one eye shut afraid an ugly over weight tattooed women was gonna show up at any moment and I so desperately did NOT want to see any of the guys naked )  But thankfully that never happened. I have to admit as a professional, I love your understated and genuine delivery on all your videos. And I loved being able to put a voice/body with a forum name. 

I agree Chi!  I love Jim's delivery style! 

[cksurfdude]

So golfing-wise realized something at the range yesterday about my tee shots - some of the ones I think I'm not swinging fully through and blocking right *may* be just misalignment on my part (eg closed to my target line, not "parallel left") ...

Why I'm posting here is I also realized I should've taken advantage of having all those better players standing around on the tee box, ie. I could've asked them to help check my alignment on the tee!

(Note I wasn't playing comp nor handicap rounds.)

 

[StrokerAce]

1 minute ago, cksurfdude said:

So golfing-wise realized something at the range yesterday about my tee shots - some of the ones I think I'm not swinging fully through and blocking right *may* be just misalignment on my part (eg closed to my target line, not "parallel left") ...

Why I'm posting here is I also realized I should've taken advantage of having all those better players standing around on the tee box, ie. I could've asked them to help check my alignment on the tee!

(Note I wasn't playing comp nor handicap rounds.)

 

if you have time; set up to hit tee shot and don't move. put your driver down right in front of your feet.

step back behind the driver about 10 feet and look. you'll be shocked.

I was when I did this the first time and have really focused on my setup and alignment.

[cksurfdude]

6 minutes ago, StrokerAce said:

if you have time; set up to hit tee shot and don't move. put your driver down right in front of your feet.

step back behind the driver about 10 feet and look. you'll be shocked.

I was when I did this the first time and have really focused on my setup and alignment.

Ahh ha of course! Will do, thx!

[StrokerAce]

8 minutes ago, cksurfdude said:

Ahh ha of course! Will do, thx!

as far as why anyone didn't say anything - just speaking for myself here but if I'm playing with somebody I don't really know too well I won't say anything to them about their setup. some people set up way right and swing hard left - not sure how or why but I've seen it. 

even my buddy I've been playing with for a number of years-I rarely mention anything unless I see him pointing DIRECTLY into the trees and it's our league match.

[GolfSpy_BOS]

1 hour ago, StrokerAce said:

as far as why anyone didn't say anything - just speaking for myself here but if I'm playing with somebody I don't really know too well I won't say anything to them about their setup. some people set up way right and swing hard left - not sure how or why but I've seen it. 

even my buddy I've been playing with for a number of years-I rarely mention anything unless I see him pointing DIRECTLY into the trees and it's our league match.

For the longest time @Lacassem would purposely set up super closed on tee shots.  It was only on tee shots and it worked for him lol  Because of that, I am like you and wouldn't really go to point that out because I don't know what sort of shot someone trying to hit or how they regularly set up.

But yeah... once you get a feel for it and start paying attention it can be quite scary to see how much it can vary when you think you're aiming the same way.

[cnosil]

19 minutes ago, GolfSpy BOS said:

For the longest time @Lacassem would purposely set up super closed on tee shots.  It was only on tee shots and it worked for him lol  Because of that, I am like you and wouldn't really go to point that out because I don't know what sort of shot someone trying to hit or how they regularly set up.

But yeah... once you get a feel for it and start paying attention it can be quite scary to see how much it can vary when you think you're aiming the same way.

Agree, I am not going to tell someone to adjust their setup as I don’t know what they are trying to do.   @cksurfdudewas hitting push draws that were coming back to the middle of the fairway, no reason to suggest a change.   I did comment that he should hit his short putts harder since he was leaving the 3-5 footers a few inches short to avoid going past the hole.  I just said my instructor told me that even going 3 feet past just leaves you a putt that you should be making 99% of the time.  

[richk9holes]

11 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Agree, I am not going to tell someone to adjust their setup as I don’t know what they are trying to do

Excellent point. I think there's a time and place for suggestions, and when I'm playing I personally make enough mistakes, it's asking for bad karma to point out someone else's inconsistencies.

With that "time and place" concept in mind, I think a great idea would be to organize some MGS outings specifically with the purpose of linking up those seeking free instruction with those willing to donate their time to do some teaching while at the same time enjoying the benefits of a social meet-up.

A little extra leadup, and some extra attention to groupings, pairing up people with strengths and weaknesses in the foursomes that they can share insights, even if there's no certified pros or coaches in the group, could really help a lot of people I think.

A group might have a single digit or someone who once was, a mid cap with a great short game, someone who struggles with Driver and a long hitter. 

A shamble format might be fun.

Prizes could be more geared around the best improvement by the end of the day, with foursomes sharing the prize with the individual who wins. Long drive and closest to pin on the final few holes after everyone has a few hours together as a team.

[chisag]

38 minutes ago, GolfSpy BOS said:

For the longest time @Lacassem would purposely set up super closed on tee shots.  It was only on tee shots and it worked for him lol  Because of that, I am like you and wouldn't really go to point that out because I don't know what sort of shot someone trying to hit or how they regularly set up.

But yeah... once you get a feel for it and start paying attention it can be quite scary to see how much it can vary when you think you're aiming the same way.

 

... If someone is playing shaped shots and hitting fairways stance is irrelevant. But honestly, that is pretty rare. Sometimes it is a correction for perceived ball flights or more often just an illusion of how they think they are lined up. Like you guys, it is rare for me to mention it unless someone is struggling and making obvious corrections for their stance and they are upset or ask if I can see anything they should fix. I will lay a shaft along their toe line and another shaft behind the ball down the target line. They should look like train tracks but they do not.

... I am always amazed when they line up to a corrected train track with the shaft still there and say "Wow, this just looks waaaay off!" then proceeded to "dance' with their feet until they are right back where they started. It is a common problem and takes real diligence to overcome what your eyes are telling you. 

[cnosil]

8 minutes ago, richk9holes said:

I think a great idea would be to organize some MGS outings specifically with the purpose of linking up those seeking free instruction with those willing to donate their time to do some teaching while at the same time enjoying the benefits of a social meet-up.

A little extra leadup, and some extra attention to groupings, pairing up people with strengths and weaknesses in the foursomes that they can share insights, even if there's no certified pros or coaches in the group, could really help a lot of people I think.

A group might have a single digit or someone who once was, a mid cap with a great short game, someone who struggles with Driver and a long hitter. 

That’s a difficult undertaking.  Not being an instructor would make it extremely difficult to separate cause and effect to be able to provide help.   Some might be able to, but I don’t think I can.   Even describing what you do during a swing is very difficult and may not be what you are actually doing.  I’ve seen instructors break down what a PGA tour pro says they are doing and then show they really aren’t doing what they indicated.    

[richk9holes]

33 minutes ago, cnosil said:

That’s a difficult undertaking.  Not being an instructor would make it extremely difficult to separate cause and effect to be able to provide help.   Some might be able to, but I don’t think I can.   Even describing what you do during a swing is very difficult and may not be what you are actually doing.  I’ve seen instructors break down what a PGA tour pro says they are doing and then show they really aren’t doing what they indicated.    

That's very true. I'm not sure I'm imagining instruction happening, so to speak. Some people benefit just watching another better golfer execute a particular thing they struggle with. 

There's been days I've played at county courses with guys who had no confidence in driver and by the end of the round, with no verbal interaction about our golf swings, my playing partner will start mimicking my "happy feet" at address and parts of my pre shot routine.

I personally would love to play in a group with someone who bombs their drives and pick up some things. Pair us with 2 who struggle to hit fairways but have excellent short game and I'd have fun just 👁 👁  everyone

[Preeway]

Even as a caddy I wouldn’t tell someone information about their setup unless they wanted me too. I have had a client ask for help on a few shots and I was able to get their alignment “fixed” but it was only something I did when I knew that wanted the info. 

[Siamese Moose]

4 hours ago, cksurfdude said:

Why I'm posting here is I also realized I should've taken advantage of having all those better players standing around on the tee box, ie. I could've asked them to help check my alignment on the tee!

They gave you putting advice, and you want full swing advice as well? Sounds greedy to me.

[GolfSpy_SHARK]

3 hours ago, GolfSpy BOS said:

For the longest time @Lacassem would purposely set up super closed on tee shots.  It was only on tee shots and it worked for him lol  Because of that, I am like you and wouldn't really go to point that out because I don't know what sort of shot someone trying to hit or how they regularly set up.

But yeah... once you get a feel for it and start paying attention it can be quite scary to see how much it can vary when you think you're aiming the same way.

Sometimes it worked sometimes it didn’t

[Jwc5149]

On 6/14/2023 at 3:03 PM, McGolf said:

 

Great stuff Jim.... Good to see you again..

[Jwc5149]

6 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Great job on the video Jim.   Also thanks to everyone for the intros, it makes putting names, faces and personalities together, and by personalities, I mean @Jwc5149 of course  

 

My course is always open!   well except for those days where I have done an exceptionally good job of selling and we fill all 36 with outings

 

 

Rob, don't tempt me with a good time.... Would love to come up and hang with you.. Let me know what works best for you.

[Golfspy_CG2]

10 minutes ago, Jwc5149 said:

Rob, don't tempt me with a good time.... Would love to come up and hang with you.. Let me know what works best for you.

I'll definitely do that, maybe we can find a Saturday in August or September that woujld work for some of the not so far away guys to come out for some golf.  Definitely can make that happen.

[Jwc5149]

Alrighty then.....

As I have run out of tears from having one of the worst rounds ever (round 2 @ Pine Needles), I will have to say that @cnosil is my kryptonite... To start - what a GREAT group of guys to spend time with. Glad everyone made it home ok, as there were some long drive (pun intended) times after playing on Sunday. Started out Saturday at Mid-South with a 76 and then BOOM, a 28 point swing in the WRONG direction at Pine Needles. I did mention Kryptonite, right??? If you are a Marine like I am, I will pause here for you so you can take your shoes off to count that high (it would be a 104 - I think). Last time i played there (week before LPGA US Open) I shot a 78 - this time - 104... WTF?????? Have no rhyme or reason. But really, WTF???? After some amazing post round moonshine punch, I came back from the dead and shot an 84 at Talamore on Sunday. All in all another great trip and soooo looking forward to the next one. 

@cksurfdude - apologies.... yellow ball MADE me do it.....

To my knowledge no full moons were sighted during this trip..

Golfspy_CG2 - Thanks again for setting it up.....

 

[funkyjudge]

38 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I'll definitely do that, maybe we can find a Saturday in August or September that woujld work for some of the not so far away guys to come out for some golf.  Definitely can make that happen.

OK, here's a stone-lock promise: As long as you pick a date that I am available (I'm also a musician, so I have Friday and Saturday gigs, including some Saturday afternoons, such as tomorrow), I will come down to MD and play golf with y'all guys!  Central MD, which I assume means the Hagerstown area, is definitely not all that far for me (less than 3 hours on most days)

[JohnSmalls]

On 6/14/2023 at 7:15 PM, cnosil said:

Try to rotate them on your PC and then save them again in the normal position. 

That thought crossed my mind but I got lazy. Have 15 pictures to rotate. I'm mobile this weekend. Will get them posted before too long. 

On 6/14/2023 at 7:33 PM, GolfSpy BOS said:

And a fake lefty at that!!!

 

So when this happens to me, I take a screenshot of the photo on my phone and upload that one.  I think I've figured out that this issue has to do with the multi-lens cameras on phones.  Certain combinations end up reading upside down.  Of course, I'm NOT an engineer, so don't ask me how to fix the software.  

But you're a mod. You have all the answers!

12 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Great job on the video Jim.   Also thanks to everyone for the intros, it makes putting names, faces and personalities together, and by personalities, I mean @Jwc5149 of course  

 

My course is always open!   well except for those days where I have done an exceptionally good job of selling and we fill all 36 with outings

 

 

Be careful. That kind of flattery will end with a knock on the door from @Jwc5149 and a demand for the verb version of a certain piece of silverware 

9 hours ago, richk9holes said:

Excellent point. I think there's a time and place for suggestions, and when I'm playing I personally make enough mistakes, it's asking for bad karma to point out someone else's inconsistencies.

With that "time and place" concept in mind, I think a great idea would be to organize some MGS outings specifically with the purpose of linking up those seeking free instruction with those willing to donate their time to do some teaching while at the same time enjoying the benefits of a social meet-up.

A little extra leadup, and some extra attention to groupings, pairing up people with strengths and weaknesses in the foursomes that they can share insights, even if there's no certified pros or coaches in the group, could really help a lot of people I think.

A group might have a single digit or someone who once was, a mid cap with a great short game, someone who struggles with Driver and a long hitter. 

A shamble format might be fun.

Prizes could be more geared around the best improvement by the end of the day, with foursomes sharing the prize with the individual who wins. Long drive and closest to pin on the final few holes after everyone has a few hours together as a team.

I would have made for easy pickings for a swing coach.  Not hard to improve on triple digit scores

[EasyPutter]

(T)Less Driver Update:  the one passed along from @Yellow Ball is continuing to make a remarkable improvement to my game.  I don't know if it is YB somehow convincing the club that hitting his cousins well for me would be hilarious to my comfort zone for my +25 handicap.  I hope he doesn't read this and get that silly smirk of his that his voodoo is working. 

First drive of the day yesterday went longer on the downhill par-4 1st fairway than I have ever done.  Only a 9i to be on the green and L.A.B. DF2.1 lag putt for an easy par.  Magic continued the entire 9 hole round, and on the par-4 4th hole I intended to stay on the fairway side of the trees at the dogleg left off the tee but the shot went 10 degrees left of the intended line and for the first time ever I cleared the tree tops for a 169 yd hit my partners watched fly in disbelief (they've seen me play often in the past few years) leaving a 6i distance to the green.  3 pars for the day all on par-4s and a par-5 using Mr (T)Less on a 1 inch high tee.  42 +7 which if I had time for a full 18 would have been interesting to see how it would play out for the back 9.  

Better drives than I have had all year to this point and combined with hybrid for 2nd shots that are also working it seems I could be finally getting back to the golf I had last summer before our northern outdoor golf season ended.  YB what have you done?  I think you had this planned all along and I'm not sure what to do about it.  More testing is necessary apparently, 2pm tee time at Niagara Frontier GC this afternoon 

[chisag]

On 6/16/2023 at 10:05 AM, cnosil said:

That’s a difficult undertaking.  Not being an instructor would make it extremely difficult to separate cause and effect to be able to provide help.   Some might be able to, but I don’t think I can.   Even describing what you do during a swing is very difficult and may not be what you are actually doing.

 

 

 

 

[cksurfdude]

Finally got around to watching the whole @McGolf travelogue .. really good stuff!! Great way to tell a story.

.  and yeah I could tell I was getting photo bombed .. I could see Jim glancing at that tricky little @Yellow Ball trying to distract me .. and then who I thought was Mr Nice Guy @EasyPutter poking in that product placement plug .. sheesh guys .. but hey the show must go on!!!