Hook DeLoft Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I’ve noticed that some strong lofted sets come with a 6 degree gap between wedges. Obviously, if this caused problems, you could adjust the lofts. But I was wondering if folks who have a set up like this find the gap to be too large. I have seen some write that the designers know what they’re doing and the gapping should be just fine, but the cynic in me suspects the big gap is a compromise. edingc and ejgaudette 2 Quote 14 of the following: Taylormade Qi10 Max Callaway 2023 Big Bertha 3 wood set to 17 degrees Cobra F9 Speedback 7/8 wood set at 23.5 degrees Callaway Epic Max 11 wood Titleist TSR1 hybrid 26 degrees Ping Eye 2 BeCu 2-SW Ping G430 irons 6-50 degree Sub 70 286 wedges 52 and 56 degrees Hogan sand wedge 56 degree bent to 53 Ping Glide 3.0 Eye2 58 degree Ping Glide 3.0 60 degree Evnroll ER2 Ping Sigma 2 Anser Cheap Top Flite mallet putter from Dick's, currently holding down first place in the bag TaylorMade Mini Spider Bridgestone XS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I have played that gap and sometimes still do when I put the TW wedges in the bag. I have a 50* gw and the tw sw is 56. It doesnt bother me because I am comfortable playing partial shots with gw and pw. edingc, GaDawg, MNUte and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNUte Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said: I have played that gap and sometimes still do when I put the TW wedges in the bag. I have a 50* gw and the tw sw is 56. It doesnt bother me because I am comfortable playing partial shots with gw and pw. Same for me. I have my 44, 48, 52 and 58 degree wedges. But I'm generally more comfortable hitting partial shots with my 48 and 58 than I am hitting full or partial shots with my 52. So in essence, my bag is 44, 48 and 58 except for pretty specific situations. Quote Rag tag bag, but it does the job. Taylormade R1 driver. Ping G400 3 wood. Cleveland Halo Launcher 3 hybrid. Cleveland CBX launcher irons (5-PW). Assorted wedges (48, 52, 58). Odyssey White Hot Pro 2.0 putter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhi1 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 My wedges are 44,48,54,58. So the biggest gap is between my GW and SW. I prefer to take some off my GW than trying to nuke my SW. But i really dont see a huge gap between them. Don B and tdroma98 2 Quote Paradym 9* GD Tour AD IZ 6x Paradym 3W GD Tour AD IZ 7s Paradym 5W Ventus Red 6s ZX5 4-5 Project X 6.0 ZX7 6-PW Project X 6.0 MG4 48* Bent to 50* MG2 TW Grind 56* Vokey SM9 60* K Grind AI-One Cruiser Jailbird Pro V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berg Ryman Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 This is why it's good to get a gapping analysis if at all possible. I go from a set wedge at 43* and then at Club Champion during the wedge fit we worked on spacing those gaps perfectly to cover a ton of shot types and distance and ended up with the 48/53/58 set I'm running with for the future. 5 degrees for me is where it is at. cnosil 1 Quote In a Hoofer Lite bag AI Smoke Max, 12*, set -1/D, Project X RDX Smoke Red 50, 6.0 Flex Stealth, 15 degrees, VA Composites Nemesys 70-S E722, 19 degrees, Oban Devotion 80-S JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-P, Nippon 950GH Stiff Flex CBX Zipcore 50* (bent to *49) and RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 54* (bent to *55), DG 115 Spinner, Tour Issue Staff Model TG 60*, Dynamic Gold 120 S300 SIK Golf Flo-C Prov V1X Left Dash... for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puttingmatt Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I have been playing 6* gapping in my wedges for a few years, Pw 46*, gw 52* ,and sw 58* Between partial swings and full swings, meets all my needs, very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamman84 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 I have a 5 degree difference between my pitching wedge (45 degrees) and my gap wedge (50 degrees) and feel like its pretty solid gaping. I carry 50, 54 and 58 degree wedges pakman92 1 Quote WITB (Current 2024): Driver: Ping G430 Max 10k 10.5, HZRDUS Hulk 6 PVD (X-Flex) Wood(s): Taylormade Burner Mini Driver 13.5, HZRDUS Blue (X-Flex) Hybrid/Driving Iron: Ping iCrossover 2 (18 degrees), Ping Tour 2.0 Chrome X-Flex Irons: Ping i230 4-PW, Dynamic Gold X-100 Wedges: Ping S159 (50), Taylormade MG4 TW (56) (60) Putter: LAB Mezz Max Armlock Ball: Titleist Prov1x Left Dash/Vice Pro Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 I am currently not playing a GW. I have an 8º difference between my MacGregor PW, which I strengthened from 48º to 46º and my SW which is 54º. LW is 60º. BIG STU 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonSal Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 With a 42° 9-iron, I don’t use the set matching 46° PW. I go with 6° gaps throughout the short end with the 9-iron and a 48-54-60° wedge complement. No problem for me, but a stronger-lofted 9-iron might have created a problem in configuring the set. Quote Louisville Golf Persimmon___2, 4, 5, 7-woods; Epon AF-906___driving iron; Titleist T100 5, 6, 7, 8, 9-irons; Titleist T100S___48°; Edison 2.0___53º; Titleist SM-9 (T)___58º; Tad Moore Otto Hackbarth___putter; Titleist Pro V1x___ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jroot327 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 my z585 PW and GW are 44 and 50 I think. Then I play a 56* and 60*. It doesn't cause me issues, but maybe I'm just used to it? Londo 1 Quote B21 9.5* w/ PX Evenflow Black 6.5 G410 SFT 16* 3-wood w/ PX Evenflow Black 6.5 Stealth DHY 2i w/ Aldila Ascent Black Stiff z585 4-AW w/ Modus3 120x RTX Zipcore Tour Rack Raw 56.12 & 60.10 w/ Modus3 125w Super Select Newport Plus -or- White Hot OG #1WS w/ Stroke Lab ProV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londo Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 On 12/22/2021 at 9:32 PM, jroot327 said: my z585 PW and GW are 44 and 50 I think. Then I play a 56* and 60*. It doesn't cause me issues, but maybe I'm just used to it? I have the same irons and gapping, the there is ~16yd distance gap between PW and GW. Over the past season there were only 2 real instances where I found myself directly between clubs and had to make a tougher decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakman92 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 45, 50, 54, 58 is what I play. With max partial shot shots in the mix, this set me up with 8 known carry distances between 75 - 125. full 45, full 50, partial 45, full 54, partial 50, full 58, partial 54, partial 58 For me max partial shot is a full turn shot without active release of the hands. Below 75, I'm hitting same type shots with smaller turns giving additional distances. I limit those to just 54 and 58 which are specialty wedges, CBX2. Vegan_Golfer_PNW and cnosil 2 Quote Epic Max LS 11.5° (10.5°+1) w/ Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 6 stiff Epic Flash 3 Wood 17° (15°+2) w/ Project X Even Flow Green 60 stiff Super Hybrid 21° (20°+1) w/ Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 80 stiff Rogue Hybrid 5 (24°) w/ Aldila Synergy 60 HYB Graphite stiff 2021 P790 Irons 5-AW (1° flat, weakened lofts) w/ Aerotech Steelfiber i95 cw regular CBX2 Wedges 54°, 58° w/ True Temper DG 115 Wedge flex Odyssey White Hot OG #1 Stroke Lab, 33 in Pro V1 Bushnell Launch Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joefreddy Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 I heard Lee Trevino say relatively late in his career when asked how many wedges he normally carried in his bag, (one and when I think I can hit that pretty well I might try a second one) Just another perspective from a player who had a decent short game. BIG STU and wely324 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikedb26 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Mine are 5° gaps, but if they were 6°, don't think us mere mortals would be able to tell the difference. rlb4 1 Quote SRIXON ZX5 LS Mkll HZRDUS Smoke Blue RDX 6.0 SRIXON Z F85 13.5° 3W & SRIXON Z F85 PING G425 3 hybrid TAKOMO 101 4-pw (custom- Steelfiber 95s 4i-6i, 110s 7i-pw BB&F ferrules) PING Glide 2.0 50° & Cleveland RTX 4.0 Tour Raw 56° EVNROLL ER5 HATCHBACK SRIXON Z STAR Diamond & MaxFli TourX NEVR LOOZ Pro Clip cart bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everardo Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Currently playing 4° gaps (46, 50, 54, 58) but just cause I'm used to my wedge grid that Pelz taught but I'm seeing quite a bit of over lap so I may go back to 3 wedges and larger gaps. TXG had a nice little video about this. For me, the wedge grid is a smarter way to figure things on the course, especially with 3 wedges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonW Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 On 11/18/2021 at 4:42 AM, MNUte said: Same for me. I have my 44, 48, 52 and 58 degree wedges. But I'm generally more comfortable hitting partial shots with my 48 and 58 than I am hitting full or partial shots with my 52. So in essence, my bag is 44, 48 and 58 except for pretty specific situations. Identical for me, 44°, 48°, 52° & 58°....... I'm comfortable manipulating my 52° MNUte 1 Quote SIM2 Max-D Driver @ 10.5° 3-wood F-Max @ 16° 5-wood F9 @ 19° 6-hybrid T-Rail @ 23° F-Max Airspeed 7 - PW Irons RTX Zipcore Wedges 48°, 52° & 58° White Hot OG #1 Putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom the Golf Nut Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 My set up is 5 degrees apart. PW is 45, GW is 50, SW is 55 and Lob is 60. BIG STU 1 Quote Driver, TSi 1 S Flex 3 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 7 Wood, Aerojet Max UST Helium Nanocore R Flex 5 Hybrid King Tec MMT R Flex Irons, Vice VGI01 Mitsubishi Wiz 60-gram regular flex (6 - PW) VGW01, 50 Degree. Mitsubishi Wiz 60-gram regular flex, Wedges, Snakebite KBS Hi- Rev2.0 54* & 60* Putter, Sacks Parente Drac Center Shafted 35" Ultralight 14-way Cart Bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG STU Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Traditionally I went 48 56 and sometimes 60. Right now I am in a major transition stage both swing and equipment. Coming off of steel shafted blades with traditional lofts to graphite and somewhat jacked lofts I am having to change stuff around some. My current set the PW is 46* and the combination of the shafts and somewhat hot faces has me in experiment mode. I went with a "Gap" wedge for the first time about a month ago. I was using the Mack Daddy 52 in my signature. I am also experimenting with a Old School Macgregor VFQ 11 iron I bought back in November. It checks out at 50*. I have used it quite a bit messing around and I am sorta getting the old feel back with it. Had one like it when I was younger and it got stolen. Also right now working on dialing in the 56 PM wedge. I did an extensive sole grind on it going from 13* to 10* bounce. Been messing around with weight placement and getting used to the feel. With the Mac wedge and the different shots I am relearning with it I think I can pretty much cover a 6* gap. Someone may ask why do I not since I have my loft and lie machine bump the 56 back some? Simple answer is I have remember my own custom sole grind on it and it is ground to 56* loft and 64* lie. Bumping it back even 2* will mess with the bounce in more than one way. I think I have said this before I only carry 12 clubs as SOP and it leaves me room on either end to add. On courses around here that have soft fluffy greenside bunkers I will slip one of my 60* LW in. Depends on my knowledge of the course what LW I slip in because there it is all about the bounce. Normally I do not have a lot of bounce on wedges I hit out of the fairway cnosil and GregGarner 2 Quote Driver ---- Callaway Big Bertha Alpha Speeder 565 R flex- - 7W TM V-Steel UST Pro Force Gold 65R---- Irons 5 thru PW 1980 Macgregor VIP Hogan Apex steel shafts--- SW -- Cleveland 588 56* S-400 Sensicore --- LW Vokey 58* SM5 L grind--- Putter 1997 Scotty Cameron Santa Fe Fluted Bulls Eye shaft--- Bag TM Flex Lite Stand---- Yeah I know only 11 clubs G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaner101 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I have 46 52 56 62 and this is a good set up for me. Dialing in the “3 finger” PW was the most work I had to do because a hard GW puts too much spin and it’s hard to dial in that yardage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John W Sutch Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Presently playing Ping Presently playing Ping G700 irons. PW is 44 and GW is 49. Have a Hogan SW at 54 deg with Texas grind and a Ping Eye 2 60 deg if needed. Quote Retired Army aviator. 2 Vietnam tours flying Hueys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BH43 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Iplay a GW, Pw, 52, 54. Quote Tommy Armour TA -1 driver Adams 2 hy Adams 3 hy Tommy Armour 4hy Adams 5 hy STi-2 irons 6-GW Acer 52 & 54 wedges Pinemeadow SS 400 putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybuck4 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 I also have a 44 degree PW and a 50° gap wedge and I sense that it is about 14 yards in between clubs I believe that it’s best for me to look at a 48° wedge to keep the gapping at 4° and then have a 52 and 56. Each gap does equate to about 10 yards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donn lost in San Diego Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 My pw is either 44 or 46, whatever std loft i for Ping I 500. My next is a 52 deg 9 bounce Mizuno on a full swing is about 80 yds, so like others, I hit a slighltly less than full swing on the PW, a real good full swing gets 110 yds. I have a 50 deg Mizu too but haven't played enough to start using it on my regular course. Quote #1 PXG 0211 10.5 deg, Evnflo Riptide CB 40 gram A flex. 3W: Callaway Steelhead Xr, Tensei Blue CK 55 gram A flex. 5W : Titleist TSi 1, Aldila Ascent 40 regular flex. Driving Iron: Mizuno MP 18 MMC Fli-Hi 3i 18 degree, Recoil 95 reg flex. 4 iron: GFF Mizuno Fly-Hi, 24 degree forged hollow body, Aerotech Steelfiber . 5 Hybrid: Mizuno (2017) JPX Fli-Hi wave tech, Recoil ESX 460 reg flex. Irons: 6 - PW: Ping I 500, on Recoil Smacwrap ES 760, reg flex. Wedges: 2 x Mizuno S5 52/09. 1@ 50 deg, 1@ 54 deg; New (July 2024) Mizu ES 21, 58 x 08, jet black. Chipper: Don Martin "Up n In" brass/bronze. Putter: Odyssey Stroke Lab "R" Ball, face balanced, with 2 piece Stroke Lab multi material shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonSal Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 I would imagine that to be fairly common. 6° isn't a big gap. Quote Louisville Golf Persimmon___2, 4, 5, 7-woods; Epon AF-906___driving iron; Titleist T100 5, 6, 7, 8, 9-irons; Titleist T100S___48°; Edison 2.0___53º; Titleist SM-9 (T)___58º; Tad Moore Otto Hackbarth___putter; Titleist Pro V1x___ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitti Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 I have played 6* gap in my wedges for the past 5 years or more. As my swing speed has slowed, I'm 68, this created better yardage gapping. I play two different sets of irons, one with a 50* GW and a 56* SW and a seconds set at 46*PW, 52* GW and 58* LW. I'd really like to find an iron set with 6* gapping that isn't a game improvement iron with jacked up lofts. I may just have order them bent that way. Deacon Blues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFS2 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 I play 4 degree gap: 46, 50, 54, 58. Works out great. Not sure about 6 degrees. However, 46, 54, 60 sounds pretty nice. Maybe the thing about 6 degrees is less confusion over which wedge to play. Deacon Blues and Everardo 2 Quote WITB: Callaway Epic Flash 10.5 Project X 6.0 55G PXG 3W 16 degree set to 15 or 5W 18 Riptide CB 5.5 60G PXG 19 and 22 degree hybrids MMT 70R PXG 5-W Gen 4 ST irons Recoil Dart 75 F3 PXG 50, 54 MMT 70R and 60 MMT 60A SD wedges Black Jack putter Stability Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitleistMike Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 The gap differential to distance isn't linear. As face angle gets flatter, a larger gap is needed to generate same landing gaps differentials. Blame it on gravity, physics, and algebra. Quote Driver FW - Titleist 917 Irons 4 to 8 - Titleist T300 2° flat Irons 9 to wedges - George Nicoll Royal musclebacks 70s vintage Putter - Scotty Cameron Select blackout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer4413 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 I am.....46/52/58 Cleveland CBX wedges with excellent results. Deacon Blues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jweck21 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 If you have smaller gaps between your driver, 3w, 5w, 3i/h, and 4i/h than you do your wedges you're just wrong. Tight gapping in your irons and wedges allows for more precision with distance control where you need it. 4° gaps is the way to go. The only gap where I would consider 6° is between my SW and my LW and that's because my LW is strictly used around the greens, it is never used as an approach club. Stuka44 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuka44 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 I bought my new irons specifically for 2 reasons, first slightly more aggressively lofted at top. Second specifically that PW/AW were less lofted than in old set, and the 4 degree gapping gave me just what I needed in carry from them. I found just the opposite from what some have said. I found I needed the 4 degree gapping to get the yardages I needed, given my swing. cnosil 1 Quote Driver: Cobra King Speedzone Irons: Mavrik 4-GW Wedges: CG-14 56 & RTX 52 Hybrid: Callaway Apex Pro 2H Woods: Gigagolf 3W, Putter: Ping Scottsdale Wolverine Ball: Srixon Z-Star XV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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