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  1. I was introduced to golf when I was very young after my dad came back from Korea. At that time golf and I did not get along very well minus the driving range where I tried to hit it as far as I could. I took up the game seriously about 6 years ago when a friend of mine was trying to learn because his boss suggested it would be good for business. After our first trip to the range with our Walmart box specials, we were hooked. In my second season, I started taking lessons at GolfTEC. I’ve been there since and have seen my game transform each year. I mostly play in Ohio but have made some trips to California, Tennessee, Texas, and Florida to play golf with a few other spys. I currently play off a 23 handicap but I would say my ability to strike the ball is much better than a 23. Whenever someone asks my handicap they’re shocked because of how well I hit the ball. Notice I said hit, not play LOL. As I've played and gotten better over the years I've developed my play style. I’m not really a bomber but I can move the ball out there pretty well. I hit my irons decently for a 23. My stock shot is a draw with a block to the right being my go to miss. The snap hook is my bad miss. I like to hit the ball high since I tend to be a lower spin player I use height and a steeper descent angle to get my ball to stop on the greens. My 150 club used to be about an 8 or 9 iron depending on how I was swinging and making contact that day. But lately, it can be anywhere from a 7 to a 9i mainly because I’ve worked hard a developing more touch into my swing. My short game has really come along well this year. And putting is a bright spot, while I don't hole a lot of longer putts I rarely 3 putt. I would call myself a calm golfer. Things that seem to anger a majority of golfers like slow play don’t get to me. I feel it shows in my game as well as I don’t hang onto bad shots very long. Although I would say this year has been more challenging to let bad play slide off my back. I think it is because I started practicing more so I expected to see some improvement and when I haven't I got too frustrated. Now that we’ve reached the offseason I hope to expand and improve not only my practice routine but also find a way to transfer that onto the course. I think the i500s might be a big role in this because of the added technology and forgiveness they pack but into a more players profile. Enough about myself let’s get to the clubs which everyone is really here for. Currently, I have in my bag a Callaway Epic, Cobra Baffler 4w, Nike wedges, and Taylormade irons. My irons are the 2011 TP MC with TT S400s. I bought them after I had a falling out with my Hogan Ptx ( I snapped the 6i after playing really bad one day). What I like about these irons is they offer forgiveness while still not being very large or have lots offset. I’m very excited for the i500 because I have been missing the shot height that I used to have when I had my 2014 TP MC. The Hogans were ok on height but not as high as I really wanted. I could have moved to a different iron like an apex or something in that mid-GI line but I really prefer the thinner soles of the players' irons because I tend to be a little shallow with my angle of attack. The hollow body of the i500 really has me intrigued as well. The long irons in my Hogans were also hallowed and while they didn't feel like it you could definitely tell by the sound that they were hollow. I wonder if the i500 will have those same characteristics. I ordered my i500s 3-P with project LZ 6.5s. I chose the 6.5s because that was one of the shafts I was fitted into back in March. I like the feel of them and they remind me a lot of my PX flighted I had in my 2014 MCs. I plan to get as much data as you guys would like for my testing. I know I want to compare height and spin because of the category these irons fall into and many people saying that they spin to low and can't be trusted to hit into greens. Because I can get access to launch monitors whenever I need them thanks to Golftec I should be able to get any and all data necessary. But I also want you guys to tell me what you want to see from a higher handicap testing a players distance iron. Thanks MGS and ping for this great opportunity. And thank you all for reading. Hope i can do yall proud and test these bad boys well
    6 points
  2. Thanks to Stud and Mr. Riley for letting me jump on this thread. I just finished building this project out for $86.56. I also want to thank Golf Mart for trading my shafts from RBG for ones that fit the latest Ping driver adapters. They are also letting me pop in every other week to track my progress. Additional costs not listed before were: $11.76 for washers and three plastic grommets from Ace Hardware. $32.36 for gluing labor from Golf Mart. And 0.99 for ten pieces of lead tape. I just used 5 of them. If you can glue grips and adapters yourself, this project would only run you about a quarter of the name brand cost. The weights of the shafts, with grips and adaptors, ended up being really close to my drivers' shaft weight. The Atmos was the lightest at 114g and I used that one as the lightest trainer. The others including my driver was 121g. I recommend using driver adapters. With the screw and the grommet I found at Aces, I don't think the weights are flying off. I duct taped the finished product for stability, and after swinging the trainers they seem fine. Just see all the pictures below. I used two different washers with different hole diameters, all weighed about 12g. Six of the smaller hole opening washers were used on all three trainers. These fit flush with the opening for the screw on the beveled part at the top of the adapter. The changing variable was the larger holed washers. Final weight dictated the amount used for these. Since these had a larger hole opening, I used two pieces of the lead tape to wedge the washers snugly up against the top six washers. Before taping these, I placed the grommet between the top washer and screw hole and tightened the screw in until the grommet compressed almost all the way. The heavier trainer only needed one piece of wedged lead tape because the stack reached the larger diameter of the driver adapter. Whats shown is just the heavy one. The Final numbers are 262, 296 and 349 grams for each trainer. Not prefect from my 322g driver but almost matching a 330g driver. When you swing these trainers its obvious that there is a weight progression. Well I think that's about it, and this was super easy. Try it yourself! What's shown below is the heaviest trainer.
    5 points
  3. I have seen gains in speed, but it also seems like I have lost some control with my driver. The timing suggests that there may be some correlation. I will reserve further judgement until after the next week or two. Right now however, if my course had houses on it, I would definitely be seeing some extra yards!!
    5 points
  4. Beer Score of the Century! So my wife had gotten me a very generous gift certificate to a local beer distributor, who carried a nice selection of different styles of craft brews .. and especially in IPAs. Had used about half of the gift on the first trip and stopped back in today to spend the rest .. only to find they'd sold the business... But... ... Fortuitously the new owners were there, and one of them put me in touch with the former beer retailer... ... Who told me to take whatever I wanted!!!!
    4 points
  5. I’ve also encounter some swing sequencing issues. I’m not letting that bother me though. Change takes patience. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    4 points
  6. Well just lookee here folks [emoji1312]we may have us a lucky winner! Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    4 points
  7. SPY ZINGER

    Pics from the course

    PXG fitting studio in Maple Grove, Minnesota. Got fit for a set of irons today and a HB. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    4 points
  8. Jumped back into this this evening. Here are the washers, now epoxied into place (with my driver head next to them for perspective). After these set, I'll grip them. The other modification that I'm considering is something to cushion the weights in the inevitable circumstance of hitting the ground. My thought now: a small section of pool noodle. The downside would be a small increase in wind resistance. Another possibility is PlastiDip.
    4 points
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    Happy thread

    Seemed to have fixed my swing issues just in time for Pine Valley on Thursday. I just can't wait to experience the course. I hope I play okay, but score will be secondary. I will not let an ounce of frustration enter my body and take away from this experience.
    4 points
  10. Stage 1 - Introducing the PING i500 irons -10/8/2018 Hello again MGS community! It’s that time of the year again, where we put all that OEM marketing mumbo jumbo up for testing and scrutiny by real players like you and me! You think their claims are bullshit? We’ll let you know for sure! As always, a huge thanks to MGS and PING, who make these great opportunities possible! I’ve done a few reviews for MGS, so I’ll keep the background info short (more details can be found in my signature). Wait a minute... the new forums don't have a signature anymore!? Oh well, then here we go: I’m Steven, currently residing in Hamburg, Germany and have been playing golf for about 7-ish years. I picked-up the game kind of late, but believe there is still some potential to flirt with single digits someday. I started this season as a 14 HCP (by EGA so not sure how that translates to USGA system) and have climbed all the way up to a 16. Did I mention I started playing at the same time as my wife and she’s now a 11 HCP? Yeah, I know… shame on me. We are now proud parents of 2, which gives me even less time to practice. My rounds are limited to 36 holes every weekend and an after-work 9 hole competitive round once in a while. My swing is fugly, so to avoid scaring you guys... I opted for a finish photo instead of a video! And I only found this one, because GolfSpy STUDeque failed to snap a selfie during his visit! I am competitive by nature; my wife and I have to bet on something every time we play: let it be a purse, dinner, shoes, you name it. I can enjoy a round with any type of golfer (ability-wise), doesn’t matter to me, as long as we can finish in a decent amount of time (personally, 4 hours is my limit, would prefer 3.5). Once the round goes beyond 4.5 hours, I get cranky, impatient and my game goes to s***. One of the reasons I like to keep rounds short is because I want to spend the afternoon with my kids. I guess once they are old enough to play with me, I won’t be in that much of a hurry. Consistency is my nemesis. I can shoot 39 on the front and blow a 55 on the back. My biggest issue this season? My driver. I used to fight a slice and now I’m fighting a snap hook. That’s the worst feeling, not knowing which side you are going to miss. Also, I realized I’m flipping a bit through impact with my irons. Even though I focus on shifting my weight forward and turning, I can’t seem to fix the problem. So I just booked 12 lessons with my teaching pro and see where that takes me next season. Putting is a little bit more decent. Since my tee shots usually leave me in trouble, I end up scrambling a lot, leaving a lot of short 1-putts. I've been playing video games for much longer than golf and I swear they give you a better sense of space and depth. You know those grids you see on the green in video games? That’s how I picture them in real life! Somewhere between my putting and driving, you can find my iron and wedge game. My short game used to be almost as bad as my driving, but it has greatly improved since I got the SM7 (link here). WITB Bag: Sun Mountain H2NO tired of putting the plastic cover over your bag when it rains? Get a waterproof bag and problem solved! Driver: Callaway Epic won at the Kings of Distance event last year, where we met Matteo Manassero, Joe Miller and Sandra Carlborg. I was fitted for the driver, but since it was a Callaway event, there were obviously no other OEM’s to compare with. Fairway Woods: got a X2Hot 3W with Aldila Tour Green. Bought this one off the rack to keep my ball flight down and as an option when my driver is misbehaving. Surprisingly, it was a good fit for me. Instead of playing a hybrid, I opted for a 5W JetSpeed - also OTR - but I rarely use it, usually good for those 200-210 yard shots. Wedges: got the SM7 a couple of months ago, fitted of course and they were truly eye-opening. These are now my favorite clubs in the whole bag. I don’t even mind practicing my short game anymore. Love them! Putter: I still prefer blade style putters. They give me more distance control than mallets. With all the hype around EVNROLL, I had to try them! And they’ve helped me tremendously. My wife got the same putter, but she’s not so happy… that just shows how different our strokes are. Irons: our protagonist for this review. More details below. I started playing irons OTR: Cobra SS Oversize, Rapture V2, Slingshots, R9. Then moved on to a fitted set of MP59, which lasted about 4 years before I switched to my current gamers the Apex CF16. Yes, 4 years feel almost as long as dog years. In between, I tested a lot of PING’s offerings, from the G15, G20, i20, K15, G25… and just couldn’t get along them with. They never felt as good as the Rapture V2 and they didn’t outperform what I already had. Ending up with the CF16 was a surprise, since I had never been a fan of Callaway, but I decided to trust the fitter and bought them with the PX 5.5 trying to lower the flight a little. I know this is more of a swing flaw, but if the equipment helps, why not? I’m not a long hitter by any means (7i for 165 yards or so) so any extra distance is welcome. I think the CF16 did a pretty good job in the player’s distance category. Initially, they looked bulky (of course, I was used to Mizuno MP irons) but with time, I started to grow into them. You’ll see a lot of players complaining about hitting flyers with these. 2 seasons later, I still haven’t noticed any, nor anything unusual. Other people complained about not being able to stop the balls on the green, not me! First Impressions As soon as I read the MGS official announcement, I called my pro shop and booked a fitting. I always prefer outdoor fittings to observe ball flight, but it was full, so to avoid causing any delays to the other testers, I settled for an indoor session. Let me tell you, it was a tough call between the i210 and the i500. The i500 certainly look better, but I was afraid they would be too explosive and I would end up with a big gap between PW and my SM7. On the other hand, the i210 seem less forgiving than my current gamers. In the end, I searched a little bit on the interwebz to see which one was more forgiving and apparently, they are very similar. So I went with the looks of the i500. Here comes the first (pleasant) surprise: Rob submitted the order on Monday and by Friday I had them in my hands… are you freaking kidding me??? Thumbs up to PING for providing lightning-fast delivery from their UK HQ. Seriously, I’ve only read good things about PING’s service, this is my first experience with them and I’m truly in awe. But I gotta say, the box presentation could be improved. Clubs came with a protective neoprene headcover, but all tied together with a rubber band in a plastic wrap. That's enough to protect them, but takes away a little of the premium feel. My specs: PX LZ 5.5 in code green (2 up), Tour Velvet grips white code PING claims their forged face combined with stainless steel body will give you so much power, you’ll feel as if you were swinging a metal wood. Your ball speed, trajectory and stopping power will increase as a total package. These are the usual claims found in SGI irons, but PING managed to wrap it up in a clean blade-style design that appeals better players. Here you can see the topline of the 4i, 7i and PW. And here the soles I am entering this review with a preconceived notion: I don’t get along with PING equipment, as a matter of fact, you could say I dislike PING equipment. Why? They never performed for me and this guy I am not fond of plays a full PING bag. Yeah, stupid and childish reason, I know. But like they say, golf is 90% mental, so you have to play whatever makes you happy! But hey! I wasn’t a fan of Callaway either, and look at me now with 9 out of 14 slots filled with Callaway gear. So I’ll let the numbers do the talking and see if PING can improve my game. One thing I already like about the i500 is the HydroPearl Chrome 2.0 finish. After playing the CF16, I don’t think I’ll ever be able to play a chrome finish iron again. Personally, I feel matte irons have a more premium air to it and the reduced glare is just extra bonus. The chromed numbers on the sole all had a protective film to avoid scratches. What to expect from Stage 2 Without hitting them, PING has already scored positively in the looks and customer service department. I wonder how they will perform? Up next, we’ll be trying to figure out whether: -I am capable of getting along with PING equipment -The i500 are as long and forgiving (for a blade design) as PING claims -They perform better than my current Apex CF16 without leaving a huge gap between PW and GW If the above prove to be true then… well then they are definitely going in my bag! Alright, folks! Enough theorycrafting, so let’s get our hands dirty! I already played 1 round with them and WOW! So stay tuned for Stage 2 and all the details
    4 points
  11. Chosen from a group of about 2500 applicants. I am honored. I want to give a big thank you to MyGolfSpy, its members, and of course Ping. Being well established with quality products in the golfing world, Ping needs no introduction. A leader in iron innovation since the 60’s. The name speaks volumes. And MyGolfSpy... they are the authoritative source for all information about the golf goodies that we drool about and want. Again, thank you so much for picking me and putting your trust in a new person for this review. I hope to exceed your expectations. And of course, a big congratulations to the other eight that were chosen. A fine group that I am excited to be a part of during this review. I love this disorder…. When I got home to tell my wife the news, this is how the conversation went. “I have to go to Calgary to get tested for a new set of golf clubs” “Why? You don’t need a new set? Why would you…. Pause (Then she remembered…) did you win that contest?” A teaser A little bit about myself. My name is Hari. I am 54 years old. I grew up in a small town called Fort Qu’ Appelle in Saskatchewan, Canada (2000 people). As with most young boys growing up in Saskatchewan, I started playing hockey. For you non-hockey buffs, Saskatchewan is home to many legends, Gordie Howe, Wendel Clark, Bryan Trottier, to name a few. I don’t know why, but I started playing left-handed and have continued playing left handed (golf) even though I am right-handed. I was very athletic growing up. I was always 6’ 2’ but just went from 50 lbs to 175 lbs. Hockey, soccer, track & field, volleyball, karate, jogging, and physical fitness. I am a Mechanical Engineer having worked in power generation, oil and gas, and now in the manufacturing sector. I currently head both the engineering and maintenance department in our plant. Me with my 2 little ones (a few years back)…less grey hair I always thought of golf along with curling as 2 boring sports. I used to say, how can golf be fun? Hit the ball, walk to it, hit the ball, walk to it, hit the ball……. Okay, now move ahead to 1996 and my first golf experience. Our company golf outing. And the rest is history. Fell in love with golf (despite being hit by a golf ball...in the back of the knee). Thank god for the alcohol. I met my wife who hails from Ontario and decided for a change of scenery. Thus, in 1999 I moved to Ontario and spent the next 12 years there. In 2012, an opportunity arose to move back to Alberta and I pursued this and my loving wife agreed to leave her home province. When I drove back, I decided to make it a golfing trip, and drove through the states. Went through Michigan, Chicago (Chicago is a golf mecca…so many courses and great ones at that), up to Wisconsin, Minnesota, and finally across to N. Dakota. That was an awesome 2 week trip. I used to play about 30 rounds a summer, then after we met, it dropped to about 10-15, then when the little ones came into our lives, about 5-10 rounds. Now that my oldest boy is 14 and my little girl is 11, they are self-sufficient and don’t need us around them all the time. Hence, practicing and playing more. My clubs. I currently am sporting Mizuno MP-25’s. I just purchased these in 2016 after using MX-15’s since 2003. My previous set, which is my first set is the Wilson Aggressor Pro. I have a goal to break 90 consistently. I have had scores in the high 80’s but very infrequent (and what is funny is that it is always at an away course, never at home). Otherwise, I normally shot in the low 90’s. Handicap Chart Here is my handicap chart for the last 3 years prior to this testing. I’ll continue this chart in stage 2. (Note that the date goes from right to left) So, after making a conscious effort to achieve this goal, I set about 2 things that I need to work on for this to happen. First, change my clubs from the MX-15’s and second, continue with more lessons. Why then Mizuno and the MP-25’s? First, I felt that in order to progress, I really wanted to hit a club that provided feedback so I could learn from it. Thus, along with Mizuno, I had considered Titleist (AP1 or AP2) as well. I went out to a demo day and could not for the life of me hit either of the Titleist clubs. I then went to a local fitter and tried both the JPX900 and the MP-25. I loved them both. After about an hour or so of going back and forth between the 2 and with different shafts each time, I decided on the MP-25. I noticed it felt better and that in itself told me I am ready for these clubs. Also, I love small sized clubs. My preference is small with thin toplines. This summer, I continued with lessons and practicing. Learning to feel what the impact position feels like. Since then, I have played less and focused more on practicing to get this position ingrained into my full swing. The results have been phenomenal. My shots crisper and further. Also, for the first time in my golfing life, I am rolling over my lead foot as opposed to it rotating to the target. But in order to do this, I need to remember to make my stance a little narrower. And again, it’s the feeling of unfamiliarity that needs to be ingrained so that it then becomes the feeling of familiarity. Another battle I have had my whole golf life is tempo. I have always struggled to have a nice smooth transition from the backswing to the downswing and hence many poor shots. I also had a very short backswing stopping at the arms being parallel to horizontal. Thus, I decide to change this by doing the following: First, increase my flexibility and strength through exercising. I started rigorously exercising in November focusing on stretching and strength exercises related to the golf swing. Second, I have made a conscious effort to pause at the top of my backswing to ensure that I have gone all the way back and hence, completed my backswing. There are times I will quickly jerk the club, but these are getting less and less. Now, I am working on reducing that pause so that there is a continuous fluid motion. It’s a work in progress. One of the things that has happened with a lesson I have is that because my hips are moving faster, I sometimes struggle with squaring the face at impact. Irons are infrequent, but the woods are more frequently slicing. The Ping i500’s These are beautiful clubs. The new i500 irons are being touted as pure distance. Ping’s first entry into the Players Distance category. Clubs in this category have the looks of a players iron and the distance of a game improvement club. How is the distance achieved? Through a hollow body which allows for the face to flex. It is the face flexing, which like in drivers gives more speed and hence, more distance. Tony Covey of MyGolfSpy has written up an article on these irons and has done a bang up job and I highly recommend reading his article dated July 16th. The chart below shows where the i500 lines up in terms of forgiveness and distance with respect to Ping’s other offerings. Now my Mizuno also has face flexing, but this is accomplished with the use of micro-slots. Injecting Boron into the steel mix allowed for the face to be made thinner and hence, be able to flex. Note that the MP-25 series is the first in the MP line to get Boron after the highly successful trial run of the JPX850 iron. The Fitting I would like to give a big thanks to Warren at Ted and Dave Custom Golf (tdcustomgolf.com) at the Golf Canada Centre in Calgary for seeing me on short notice and doing a bang up job. Thanks Warren. The fitting started out with some questions about distance, flight, and current irons. Warren looked at my irons, and in particular the shafts. Project X stiff. He was surprised that I was using them. He discussed the weight of these shafts and gave me an i500 club with one of the ping shafts. WOW, what a weight difference. Like lifting a balloon. Hmmm. This can get interesting. After warming up, I proceeded to hit some shots with my 7 iron to get the baseline data. Then I moved on to the Ping 7i. I went through the fitting process with different shafts. With different shaft, also came different trajectories. I noticed that he had a recoil shaft. I asked about trying this and he mentioned it was graphite and then asked me if I would like to try a graphite shaft. Let’s throw preconceived notions out the window and open up the eyes. We started off with the Alta CB stiff which weighed 84 grams (as opposed to my project X 5.5 stiff which came in at 115 grams). That was all the testing I needed. See the results below. Fitting Summary Below is the summary of the 7i with differing shafts. The bottom starts off with my own 7i and ends up with the Alta CB at the top of the chart. Smash Factor. Smash Factor relates to the amount of energy transferred from the club head to the golf ball. Smash Factor – The ratio between the Ball Speed and the Club Speed The higher the smash factor the better the energy transfer. My smash factor went from 1.34 up to 1.43 max with the Alta CB shaft. And the following shows how much the shot dispersion tightened up. The 7i with the Alta CB are the blue dots. My Mizuno shots are the pink dots. Comparison of club specs I went with the standard lofts on the Ping irons. Also available are 2 other loft options – Power and Retro. Power lofts are less to give a more penetrating flight whereas the Retro lofts being 2 degrees more than the standard will give a higher trajectory.Loft Comparison As you can see, there is a 3 degree difference in the lofts and this gap narrows at the 9i and the PW. The Test The big reason I want to test these clubs is that the Cobra Connect Challenge really opened up my eyes. In that challenge were 5 testers, ranging in HDCP from 7 to 19, and using clubs that, according to Cobra are for HDCP ranges of 5 to 25. Each one of these testers saw considerable gains and hence reductions in their handicaps. So, this got me thinking. Can I get more out of a club than what I am currently playing? With my exercising, lessons, better ball striking, I feel that I should be getting more. More in terms of distance, more in terms of consistent ball striking, and I’ll emphasize this last point, with less effort. Clubs getting settled in their new home. And here is profile pic of the 6 iron comparing the Ping to the Mizuno Topline comparison But, the clubs I got had imperfections. The finish on the face side was very blotchy which was noticed as I was taking pics for this review. Also noticed, several clubs had scratches. Even though they came with the neoprene covers, it was disappointing to see this lack of quality control. Now, don’t get me wrong, I realize that clubs will get marked up and dinged over time, but with the Hydropearl Chrome 2 finish being blotchy right from the start and the scratches, I am wondering how the finish will age with time and use. The Review During this review process, I want to get a lot answered. Distance, forging, feel, quality? Will the Pings out distance my Mizunos? The fitting process revealed that, but there are also other variables in play and that was only the 7 iron. The shaft, shaft length, the lower lofts, being hyped up while trying the new clubs. As well, the fitter was questioning why I had a midsize grip with an extra wrap and a half. He gave me a club with a midsize grip without the extra wraps and asked how it felt. It didn’t feel unusual and said you will probably get better results because it won’t be so tight in your hand. Will I switch? Will I blend the sets, or not? Will the forged face of the Ping perform as well as a true forged club as Mizuno clubs? The rest of the Ping club is cast. Will this play into the performance? The sound? The distance? Now, I wouldn’t be able to make a comparison to a true forging in a Mizuno as I have read that because Mizuno injected Boron into the MP-25, it has muted the feel somewhat and is not a true feeling as the other forged clubs they offer. So, my review will be a comparison to the MP-25 only. So, I currently play Mizuno MP-25 and love these clubs. Small, great looking club with a thin topline. These are not the iron equivalent of a driver that is a “volkswagon on the end of a stick”. Even though I am a high handicapper, it is due to my driver and tempo, but otherwise when I am in the groove, the irons are awesome. I love hitting these. Along with the questions above, I am also going to ask the following: 1. Will I get more distance in all the clubs? Will the long irons require less effort? 2. Feedback is important to me to constantly improve. With Mizuno’s I know exactly where I mishit it and I know when I flushed it. That is one thing I love about the Mizuno clubs. And even when I am listening to music, I know when I have flushed a shot. Will Ping give me the same feedback? 3. The Mizuno clubs are awesome when hitting in the primary or secondary cut of the fairways. I love how they slice through the grass with little resistance. I have had no problems getting the ball out of cabbage. A sharp descending blow and out comes the ball like a rocket. Will the Pings handle the rough in the same manner? 4. One of my favorite shots to get me out of trouble is a 160 yard runner with a 5i (low launching shot keeping it about 3-5 feet of the ground). Great for when you’re in the trees and need to keep it low and get back on the fairway. My course has a lot of trees and this is a game saver. Will I be able to finesse Ping’s 5i the same way? 5. Will I, as a 19 handicapper who will improve (confidence man, confidence) want to have these clubs in the bag as my handicap trends south. 6. How is working the ball with these clubs? I don’t work the ball very much. I find that nerves get in the way of this on the course and hence I don’t try it much. I do practice them quite a bit on the range, so I’ll do comparisons on this at the range. I can fade easier than draw, 7. Will the clubs stand up to my abuse. I do not baby clubs. If you look at my Mizunos, you will see lots of marks, cuts and gouges. I consider these battle wounds that I am proud to show off. Will the Pings stand up to these battles? 8. Will the new HydroPearl chrome finish stand up? According to research I’ve done, this finish is to repel water off the face so that there will be few fliers and more consistency. I’m trying to figure this statement out and how does this happen? I hope in this review process, that I will provide you with the same high level of service that you are accustomed to by the many great reviews that have already been done on this site. And if I am not, I welcome the feedback so that I can learn and grow through this process. To my fellow MyGolfSpy members, I leave you with this. Thank you all for reading my stage 1 and i'll see you in stage 2
    4 points
  12. First off I’d like too thank Rob, MyGolfSpy, Ping, and Matt the customer service dude at Ping! Here’s a little background on me and my game. I’ve been playing golf for about 24 years, I was late to the game. I’m self taught and never had a lesson. I got down to a 5 hcp about 5 years ago and now I’m hovering over 10. I’ve been to the Nike Oven and 2 years ago I went to the TM Kingdom and was fit. A couple times a year I’ll go see James at 2nd Swing to get fit and some new goodies. I’m a true club ho. The clubs have to be real game changers to stay in my bag. My home course in Minnesota is a Links style with long heavy rough. Before I was picked to test the i500’s I was gaming the Srixon 565’s 4-PW. I’ve played just about everything so don’t hesitate to ask if I could compare the two. My driver swing speed is at 92-100 depending on my back. I have a pretty fast tempo and very aggressive swing. My iron play is probably the worst part of my game. My miss is left of my target and and off the toe. My 150 club is 7 or 8 iron once again depending on my old beat up body. Short game has always been my money maker. I picked the i500’s for some more distance I’ve lost over the years and hoping for the same forgiveness , great Forged feeling and shot shaping I’m so use too. Plus they look so damn sexy. This time around I didn’t go get fit, I did the Ping fitting on line, I can’t wait see how it works out. I have three rounds in already and two trips to the chiropractor this week. I’m on my way to Arizona as I’m typing this so sorry if this isn’t making any sense.
    4 points
  13. Many thanks to Ping and MyGolfSpy for this opportunity. This is going to be a great test for me and hopefully some folks enjoy these reviews as much as I’ve enjoyed others on this site. If you don’t want to read the long version, skip down to the end for the tl;dr summary. Let’s get things going with a few of my favorite quotes to live by: ‘Oh, who the f*** are you?!?’ – The Who Well to start things off, I’m Shane, 37, and I’ve been enjoying this game for about 26 years. My dad introduced me to this glorious journey of fairways and greens when I was in elementary school and it’s been a love affair that has only gotten stronger over time. I played for a local junior college (McLennan) and had a great time admiring the competition in the JuCo ranks, but didn’t really enjoy the game until I graduated from Baylor. I was reared in Waco until 2005 when I moved down to the Houston area solely for the 11 month golf season…and jobs in the oil industry. I currently play close to a scratch and truthfully some of my best golf has come after the birth of my son. Back in the spring, I had a streak of 6 consecutive sub-par rounds only to be broken by a bad swing flaw that has sent the scores back up into the mid-70s. My smoking hot wife knows that if she wants a happy husband, a two-hour practice session or a quick 18 will bring her a tasty meal, a back rub and all the cuddle time she wants afterwards. My son is only 10 months-old but his future will be caddying for his old man until he decides if he enjoys the game as much as I do. ‘What’s love got to do with it?’ – Tina Turner Outside of God and my family, golf is next in line for things I love the most. It’s an unhealthy relationship according to my wife. There’s a lot of time and effort on my end, but there are times I don’t get the same in return. I’m super needy, I need to over-analyze everything from driver angle of attack to putter grip weight and I love to tinker. My dream after I win the lotto is to buy a 12 acre tract of land, build a modest house with a big indoor golf facility and then design my own short course so I can make my friends jealous of my playground. ‘Just how big a boy are you?’ – Roy D Mercer I’m a stout, broad-shoulder fella with a hard-loading swing that only has one speed: fast. I’ll hit touch shots with short irons and wedges, but if I’m between clubs, you damn well better believe I’m going with the shorter club and swinging for the fences. I’m a high launch/high spin player thanks to my steep angle of attack. My scores are the lowest when the fade is working but as soon as the pull-draw finds its way into my clubs, I quickly go into survival mode. Not quite Bear Grylls ‘drink your own pee’ mode, but punch-outs and up-and-downs will soon be prevalent. My putting is perfectly average for a scratch, my driver is usually good for 2 out of 3 fairways hit, my long irons never do what they’re told, and my mental approach to the game is my strongest aspect. Here's a full send with the driver: And a more controlled short iron attack: ‘What in the world is in that BAG, what you got in that bag? – Ludacris The weapons of mass destruction are as follows: Carry yards based on GC Quad session on Sept 3rd with TM TP5X golf balls: Driver: ’17 TM M2 w/ Oban Kiyoshi 65X tipped ½” playing at 44.5”. Carry: 287y 3W: Cobra F7+ 14.5* w/ HZRDUS Black 75 6.5. Carry: 260y Hybrid: Cobra F8 19* w/ HZRDUS Black 85 6.5. Carry: 240y Irons: Bridgestone J15CB w/ KBS C- Taper S+. Ping ID-8 grips – Yellow +2 wraps 4i (22.5*): 207y 5i (25*): 200y 6i (28*): 191y 7i (32*): 181y 8i (36*): 165y 9i (41*): 148y PW (46*): 133y Wedge: Callaway MD Forged 52*: 109y Callaway MD3 58* C Grind: 72y Cobra Tour Trusty 62*: 58y Putter: Piretti Bosa 35” w/ SS Slim 3.0 I’ll say this about the Bridgestones, I absolutely love the feel these irons bring to my game. I wasn’t fit for these irons but through years of tinkering and sampling, I was drawn to these by the classic shape, the grind and the fact that they were Endo forged. These irons remind me of the Miuras I played a few years ago. Very smooth at impact. Great swings equal great shots and bad swings are punished with these irons. These originally came with Dynamic Gold X100 but I recently changed to KBS C-Tapers S+ and really enjoyed the change in ball flight (higher), spin (lower) and dispersion. All of this joy has come dropped a few notches over the summer as the yardage gaps on the long irons and the PW to the 52* have come into play. The occasional slight pull has also dropped my GIR percentage. My short and mid irons are my favorite to hit with the consistent flight and carry distance. My 4i is probably the weakest club in the bag. I consistently over-estimate the carry yardage of the club. Even with the TP5X, the 4i spin is north of 5300rpm with a launch of 16*. If the Ping i210s can provide me with the same short iron consistency and proper long iron gapping, then it will be an easy decision to send the Bridgestones off to a new home. Kor.A.Door, did you read that?!? More of my stuff possibly heading to the BST. Get your PayPal warmed up. The day of arrival: I rarely check my front porch camera unless I’m getting a golf related item delivered. The delivery of the i210s was no different. FedEx usually arrives around 1:30pm but ol Janet was running late. Here she is delivering the goods at 2:12pm: Specs: Ping i210 ** 4-GW w/ DG X100 +.5” Green Dot (2* up) ** Golf Pride Yellow + 2 Wraps There's a lot of golf on the horizon as the Houston golf season doesn't end until mid-January. These Pings are a serious contender to oust the Bridgestones but we'll save that for Stage 2! Here's the Too Long; Didn't Read summary: · 37, married, one kid with many more to come. Live just north of Houston, TX. Work for large oil company, but still find time for practice and playing. · Played golf for over 25 years. Played JUCO ranks and now just really enjoy the game. Love to tinker. · Current hdcp right around scratch. Swing is hard loading, quick tempo, fast…think caveman killing dinner. Ball striking has always been a strong suit of my game. I play my best when the ball flight is a high, soft fade. · Current irons: Bridgestone J15 CB with KBS S+ shafts. +.5” and 2* upright. · B-stone Pros: Great feel, very smooth. Love the ball flight and performance in windy conditions. No issues with grind. Love the compact look. · B-stone Cons: Shafts starting to give me inconsistent yardages. If I pull a shot, the carry distance increases by 7-9 yds. Yardage gaps are really big in short irons (15-20 yds) and really short in long irons (7-9 yds) despite getting lofts/lies checked frequently. · What I’m looking for: Consistent yardage gaps and ball flight. See my GIR % improve from the fairway.
    4 points
  14. This was my biggest hesitation about having such a large league. In the past, I kept it small(1 division) and those who didn't participate when they got off to rough starts weren't allowed to play the next season. I may need to put that policy back into place.
    3 points
  15. It would be good if the guys at the bottom of the standings would at least make a minimal effort to stay competitive. Not naming names, but if our last place team had bothered to even play a TE and a Flex, he would have easily beat our second place team. There are others as well.
    3 points
  16. It's about time we actually had a real entry!
    3 points
  17. azstu324

    How'd you play?

    Saturday played a course that I know very well with my buddy Mark. Kokopelli. This games funny.. About 2 weeks ago I had a pretty stellar round there (for me) and shot an 80. I felt like everything was working that day. On Saturday I just felt like everything was off and not coming together like I'd like. My buddy was having an off day too. Not to mention the course was in pretty rough shape due to pre re seeding prep so there was just an extra added level of difficulty. At the end we added everything up and I shot an 83 and he shot an 86. I was honestly expecting something in the 90's by the way things seemed to be going. Sent from my VS985 4G using MyGolfSpy mobile app
    3 points
  18. I know it may sound funny, but I think coating the washers with that Flex Seal would work well. With the left over you can build a boat out of your screen door just kidding, had to throw that in there. I will be really interested in how these workout. Keep up the good work! Sent from my iPhone
    3 points
  19. Sluggo42

    How'd you play?

    Shot a nice 4 over at a cool track I haven’t played in over 10 years. It was redesigned about 5 years ago they said and I really liked the new layout. It played at 6540 yds from the blues, and 6800 from the tips, but I stayed at the blues.
    3 points
  20. I played with three random guys on Friday and told them all about the irons and one length in general and they were really interested especially after I was flushing 4 irons to 10 feet and chipping in GW shots around the green Sent from my SM-G960U using MyGolfSpy mobile app
    3 points
  21. Today's shot of the day was an 8 iron over a tree out of US Open type rough that hit the cart path and bounced onto the green. Proceeded to 3 putt for double bogey just to remind myself how much I sucked today lol. Sent from my VS995 using MyGolfSpy mobile app
    3 points
  22. cnosil

    Got Problems?

    I think it is the same stuff they put in hot Krispy Kreme doughnuts.
    2 points
  23. Ha! Already cleaned out, along with all the cold cases. Did end up with a nice selection, though - like 7 or so cases worth of about 17 different kinds of brews! A few specialty ones, too, like a limited edition Lagunitas, Three Philosophers and a Chimay Grande Reserve!
    2 points
  24. tony@CIC

    Got Problems?

    Holy cow - your happenings were definitely worthy of a rant! Hope you feel better. Also let your cat know we have plenty of chipmunks on our property and willing to let nature take its course.
    2 points
  25. No posts since July!! Weather is changing. I'm feeling for you guys back easy with the cold weather settling in, and you guys on the Gulf coast with yet another hurricane bearing down. Stay safe!! It's getting cooler here in the Northwest, and it has been dry up until recently. It rained hard last night, but hard for us is 0.5 inches. That brings our total rainfall for the year to 4.6 inches. That's short of our normal annual total of 7 inches. I've heard that's the El Nino effect; all the rain is pushed to the southwest. I had to turn on the heat yesterday as temps are getting close to the 30's at night. However, the forecast is sunny and temps in the mid-60's during the day for the next week. Perfect golf weather!!
    2 points
  26. I have only been on the range since starting the SuperSpeed training, but I haven't noticed any swing or direction issues. Are you guys *trying* to swing faster with your driver? I was just using what felt like my normal controlled driver swing on the range, not over swinging like I do with the training clubs. Doing this I still saw a gain of 2 mph, without trying to "swing faster". I will need to get out to the course and see if my range session translates to on the course driving.
    2 points
  27. You can't. Article XII, Section 3, paragraph 7 of the MGS Rule Book explicitly limits forum members to one MGS Official Tester at a time. I'm pretty sure there is also a section stating the person who points this out gets the booty . PM with my shipment information forthcoming.
    2 points
  28. Me too, but we have top golf opening here soon so you guys will have to make a trip down this winter for some fun!
    2 points
  29. Mason Crosby misses 5 kicks. I lose this week by less than a point. I'm totally ready to give kickers the boot. [emoji52] Sent from my SM-G930V using MyGolfSpy mobile app
    2 points
  30. Kenny B

    How'd you play?

    Only two guys showed up today and they both had something going on afterwards, so golf was only 9 holes today. It was a good thing because we got some spits of rain. I'm still hitting the occasional wayward tee shot. I only hit one (1) green in regulation, and didn't chip particularly well either. However, I parred the first 6 holes and one-putted the first 5 holes. The shortest putt was 6 feet; longest was 25 feet. I just laughed as they went in the cup!! I came down to earth, two-putting holes 6-9 for a +3 score on the front nine.
    2 points
  31. Charli

    How'd you play?

    Shot an 84 while being +7 on the par 3’s
    2 points
  32. Played the back-9 at my home course today. Posted a fairly OK 45 that included a couple of pars and only one bad 3-putt for a 7 on a par-5. Putting was good overall and the new iron shafts are making dividends. First time out wearing pants and not shorts for a long while...fall is in the air...dammit!
    2 points
  33. #14 hit approach 7i just right of the green into the bunker. 58* out to gimme-range
    2 points
  34. Jmikecpa

    Happy thread

    Make sure you give the Turtle Soup a try if you get to eat in the grill room. Also, listen to your caddy as they know the course well and can give a lot of great advice. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    2 points
  35. Stage 1 just posted. Now heading back to the launch monitor to get some additional data for Stage 2!
    2 points
  36. This thread has the potential to be very long. Between the weekly updates and the program being 72 weeks long. I hope you guys see some extra yards. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
    2 points
  37. I fell a bit behind on this...and other threads over the past week, as it's been a zoo at work. But I was so psyched to read the posts from both you guys above. I agree with Looper, keep us updated---and you've already done a fantastic job of that. So glad to hear that Cobra delivered for both you guys and that SirChunk....that you found all the comments and reviews in the challenge thread so helpful.
    2 points
  38. Looper, I didn't have any screamers, Most of the distance was just pure high flight and goes forever. I did hit a low shot with the 5 iron, but I usually didn't hit that with my old set. Most of the inconsistency I had was with the clubs I already had. *cough* Driver *cough*. Reese, I definitely need to practice with them. I really hit the set the first time on the course without hitting the driving range. Arccos actually contacted me about the putter problem and gave me a couple of things to try. I'll see how it goes this weekend and get bank in touch with them. I appreciate you guys checking in, you know more about this system that I do and any advice is appreciated. Sent from my SM-G955U using MyGolfSpy mobile app
    2 points
  39. Growing up I played pretty much every sport either competitively or recreationally with friends, however golf wasn’t one of them. Other than a family friend in Milwaukee and one of my friends in high school I didn’t know anyone who played. As a kid I knew who Arnie, Jack, Trevino, Player and Hogan were. Also around 12 or 13 while the family was hanging out at my grandmothers my dad dropped a nugget on me that her cousin was Chi Chi Rodriguez and my grandmother was in the phone with him. I regret not knowing more about who he was back then. I knew about the majors and that was about it. It wasn’t until my last year in the Navy (1996) that I finally caved to the peer pressure of coworkers and took up the game with the sole intention of playing a 9 hole scramble at night in a monthly work tournament with o r if my close shipmates and two others from our division. It took one range session to get caught by the golf bug and after the first time on the course I was hooked. I’ve been playing on and off since then with two breaks, the first after 9/11 and the second in 2006 when my wife and I started dating and then planning the wedding. I picked the game back up in 2010 and started taking it serious in 2013 after I gave up playing baseball. I’ve worked hard since then with lessons, practice, reading and playing to get my handicap to a fluctuating 8-9. My biggest issue is tempo and an aggressive transition. I’ve been working to smooth those out. To me my strength is my iron play as it’s usually the most consistent part of my game followed by distance...my driver carry is 260ish and I’ve seen balls roll out into the low 290s. I like to play different shots with my scoring irons and periodically my mid-long depending on distance and pin location. My stock 150 shot is usually a smooth 8i chokes down about 1/4”. My short game from about 40-80 yards is my weak point at the moment and with the swing work I’ve been putting it has slipped down the list of practice focus. Playing golf in the DC area it gets hard to maintain the swing come November while waiting for the spring to get here. But hitting balls and getting in the course are what I love about this game and will swing away if it’s 40* or higher and no wind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CIutUhAI0A Quick snippet of my WITB prior to the testing selection: Driver: Ping G400 HZRDUS Yellow 6.0 3/4wood: Titleist 917 F2 16.5* UST Mamiya Helium HE5F4 Hybrid: Ping G400 19* Ping Tour 85g S Irons: PXG Gen2 0311P (4i), 0311T (5-P) PX 6.0 Wedges: Vokey SM7 50/54/56 Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex Putter: Scotty Cameron Deep Milled Super Rat Ball: Titleist Prov1 is my preferred but play the 1x as well. That’s enough rambling about myself, time for what everyone wants to see and hear about. The Ping i210s that I choose are 4-GW with PX 6.0. Shaft choice was to give me a shaft to help with peak height. I hit a high ball and in my PXG fitting peak height was around 115’. I normally don’t play a set GW because I like the versatility of the non set wedges, but knowing there are those who like the set wedges and the flow from PW into the set GW as well as the forgiveness in most cases I choose to include that in my order and provide feedback to the masses. These irons peaked my interest because I loved the i20s and since then I haven’t been a fan of anything in the I family of irons from Ping. Taking these out of the box the looks to me stand out. Clean and sharp lines -Ping is touting a buttery feel with a larger in volume elastomer insert that is 50% softer that creates 25% more face contact and ensuring that pure feel. -They have refined the the look with a more compact shape and minimal offset. -Both leading edge and sole have been enhanced to improve turf interaction for precise distance and ability to work the ball, while the HydroPearl Chrome 2.0 finished helps repel water to help improve consistency -Copying the Glide 2.0 specs with sharper edge radius and the spaces between tighter between grooves both pw and uw(aka gw) will provide greater precision and control and prevent those dreaded fliers Now that we got all of that out of the way and the initial range session with these have me excited for the getting them on the course it’s time to get ready, aim and fire away with those questions
    2 points
  40. Before diving into it I would like to say a few thanks. First to MGS and Ping for this incredible opportunity. I have been a member of MGS for a couple years now and have gained so much from this community. I hope my review can be as helpful and informative as many of the reviews before me to help everyone with any purchasing decision they may make! Second to Patrick and staff at Golf Central Halifax for the fitting and continued support through this review. Now a little about me. My name is Jamie and I currently live in Halifax Nova Scotia, which has been home for the better part of 6 years. Along the way I have lived all over Canada, including growing up on the other side of the country in British Columbia. My wife and I have been married for just over 3 years now and although we don’t have any children we do have our dog Apollo. Although golf is now my main sport and passion, that wasn’t always the case. Curling held that spot for 20+ years of my life. For those of you who don’t know much about curling, golf and curling go hand in hand as their seasons offset perfectly and many golf clubs and curling rinks are joined together in Canada. Curling has giving me the opportunity to visit many different areas of the world and compete at a very high level for a number of years. Even though I no longer curl, it is still a huge part of my life as I work as an Ice Technician making ice for curling clubs and events. This is also the perfect career for any golfing enthusiast as the season is typically September to April then the remainder of the year is offseason! Therefore I now fill my offseason with golf, where I play as much as possible and even work at a local course part time. I have been around golf since I was a kid and played regularly throughout my childhood with my fondest memory being my dad and I going to the par 3 down the road for 9 holes and breakfast which cost all of $7 each. As I got a little older I played a bit more, but never to a serious level. Golf for me was a something I played when I got the chance to, but never went out of my way to play. It wasn’t until I moved Halifax that I really got into equipment and playing more to improve my game. With many of my friends here being good golfers it made me want to take strides to get better. This season was the first year I ever planned out a season with expectations and goals, with all of them being achieved for the season with time to spare! There are so many different aspects of golf that make me love the sport. I love new equipment and tweaking my bag. It is something I constantly look at doing and always have a few ideas of where I’d like to improve my bag. However it is the people and the challenge of playing the course to better my game that has pulled me in. I have met many amazing people from all over and always enjoy grouping up with new people to hear their stories over the course of a round. Even when having a rough round I still always find that I enjoy myself. We have so many beautiful courses here in Nova Scotia it’s often hard to get too upset. I take the game seriously and always go out and play with the expectation to go low, however realize being a amateur and inconsistent that poor games are going to happen. That being said we are here for the equipment aren’t we! My bag has seen many changes over the years and season for that matter. If you like check out WIMB here: Here is a quick summary. Driver- Ping G400 with Project x hzrdous yellow stiff Woods- Cobra F7 3 and 7 wood with stock stiff shafts Wedges- Ping Glide 54 and 58 SS with project x 6.0 shafts Putter- Ping Sigma G Tyne with PP60 grip Finally Irons- Ping i E1 Irons with Nippon Modus3 105 Stiff shafts 5-Gw and a Cobra Forged Tec 4 iron with a KBS C Taper Lite stiff shaft. My irons I have had for 2 full seasons now. They were purchases second hand, but had them sent to Ping to have them properly fit for me. That fitting and these irons are a large factor in bringing my game to where it is. I love the shape, feel and consistency they provide. The Cobra 4 iron was introduced last year as I wasn’t finding a great gap between my Ping 4 and 5 iron so with the Cobra 4 iron having a heavier shaft and stronger loft fit perfect into my set. They have been amazing irons for me and I am really looking forward to seeing how their newer version stacks up against them. As far as my game goes I’ll link a video below to my swing yes I’m a lefty and proud of it! As well as throw up a bunch of Arccos screen shots so you can all dive a little deeper if you so choose. I would say I am a solid golfer overall. I’ve been able to get my handicap down 9 and that is in a large part to my putting which by far is my strength on the course. I am very much a feel player and a lot of that comes from curling. I can have rounds where I’m feeling it and can’t seem to miss and will go low 70’s. Then other rounds where I will hack my way around the course and be high 80’s. Arccos has helped immensely focus and narrow down areas of my game where I need improvement and practice. I will be resetting all my iron tags to get better numbers for the Ping i210 irons to compare to my current set. As you can see Arccos has my approach play as being the weakest part of my game. I initially was going to say it was my driving, but with a little reflection it is most definitely my approach play and par 3’s where I seem to loose the most strokes. My typical miss for my irons are right and over cooking a draw or a straight pull. It’s not all too often that I miss straight left. I also have a tendency to catch my irons on the fatter side rather then skinny which is a huge reason I love my Ping irons and their larger soles. For my typical ball flight I would say it’s a pretty medium trajectory. It’s certainly not too high as I can flight them low in windy conditions and don’t have too much worry when having to carry water or hazards. With the courses I play it is definitely a benefit to be able to work the ball both ways and I have worked hard this year in adding a controlled cut into my arsenal. That has come in handy when trying to combat that big miss right I often struggle with. Now finally onto the Ping i210. Here is a quick bit of info about them from Ping and what they claim to have improved over previous years just cut down a bit. For the full details on them follow this link to Ping. https://ping.com/clubs/irons/i210 Ping claim to have made the i210 with a buttery soft feel by making a larger elastomer port then previous years. This helps do two things, softer feel as well as pushing more weight to the perimeter allowing for more forgiving irons. They use the same groove technology as the Ping Glide 2.0 wedges and in the PW and GW the grooves are closer together to provide greater swin and more control. lotsPing i210 are not meant to be distance irons, but rather more consistent controlled clubs that are able to be worked both up and down and side to side. During my fitting a tried several shafts and kept a open mind going into it. I knew I loved the Nippon Modus 105 shafts, but wanted to make sure they were the proper ones for me and that there wasn’t a better option out there. In the end a lot of them produced similar flights and distances with spin numbers all around the same. Therefore it was all based on my feel preference and knowing how great the Nippon shafts performed in my current set it was a no brainer. I also stayed with a Blue dot (.75 upright) and standard lofts and lengths. To finish off I want to let you know what I’m looking for in these irons and what will help take over a spot as my new set. I want them to give me consistent distances. Even if they are a bit shorter then my current set I’d be okay with that. I’m quick alright loosing a few yards in the name of consistency and being able to really trust that my irons are going to go the proper distance I’m expecting. I also want them to feel better then my current set. I have only owned one set of forged irons and still regret selling them, but they were too punishing for my game at the time and was the right call to move to the Ping i E1. As well I want to be able to hold greens on approach shots. I have seen many reviews where the spin rates seem to be on the low end. I want to put this to the test and see even if they are on the low side if it will make a difference in my ability to hit into a green and stop it where I want. Finally I need to feel confident with them. I’m sure I’ll go through a honeymoon faze with them and I will have good rounds and bad rounds, but it is something I gained with my current set of Ping irons and is critical to helping them stay in my bag. Well that just about wraps up my stage 1! I’d invite you all to check out the other 8! Stage 1’s and to follow all of us along while continue on with stage 2 and beyond. I look forward to any and all questions anyone has along the way and will do whatever I can to help anwser. As well if anyone wants to see specific data I will do what I can to get those results as well whether that be on a launch monitor or through Arccos. Also if anyone wants to see some more photos go up there will be some on my instagram (brand new just for this review) at apolloshowl. Thank you everyone for taken the time to read!
    2 points
  41. SPY ZINGER

    Pics from the course

    Rainy cold October day in Minneapolis. Always 72 and sunny inside 2nd Swings Tour Van. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    1 point
  42. I've noticed that too, but what better incentive could you get than a golden ticket for a MGS product test next year? That will for sure keep me playing all season long. Sent from my SM-G930V using MyGolfSpy mobile app
    1 point
  43. ole gray

    Got Problems?

    Yea I have been fighting nerve pain down the side of my hip for quite some time now. Yesterday the big one hit and it was a Mother!! Good luck with your back and I hope all goes well for ya.....
    1 point
  44. I really like the way you did this. When you talked about building these with the adapter tip installed, I wasn't picturing what you had in mind. This method is really slick; nicely done!
    1 point
  45. One step at a time mate. Let's see what lessons can do to my game. 1st step is to eliminate those ugly misses off the tee with the driver. 2nd step is to stop flipping my irons. And the rest of the game, it's not that urgent
    1 point
  46. You guys have a gift for writing. So far so good. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy
    1 point
  47. Thanks, I am planning on finding a way to play a lot more next year by joining a club or something where I don't feel like I gotta play 18 each time I'm out
    1 point
  48. The Links at Northfork. That’s are 3 hole practice loop. 2 par 4’s and a par 3. It’s great for testing clubs, balls, warming up before a round. It’s set up and taken care of just like the course. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    1 point
  49. Love it sirchunksalot, it's great to hear that you are so happy with the new clubs
    1 point
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