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Trackman tweeted its congratulations to JB on his win yesterday, which immediately inspired the thought of a Trackman measuring JB's speed:

I get what your saying. But a sincere question I would ask you is, that time commitment that kept you from playing. Was it the difference between 4.5 to 5.0 hours vs 4.0. Or was it even the 4 hours would have been too much? It's funny whenever I go play on a weekend, SWMBO is fine with it, the only thing she cares about is what time will I be home. She honestly doesn't care how long, she just wants to be able to plan around it. So if I have say a 10:00 AM tee time, I calculate in my head the following...4.5 hours for play, 1 hour to hang out, 20 to 45 minute drive home depending on where I'm playing. So lets round up to 6.5 hours. So I'll say, I'll be home around 3:30 or so. She will without fail, respond by saying....OK I'll see you at 4:30. I haven't asked here whether she's counting on a longer round or three more beers Oh for the record, it's about 50/50 between her being correct and me being correct.

This topic is one that I could go on for days about. But I’ll spare you all. Slow play and waiting for terrible golfers is the worst thing about golf. Imagine 4 JB’s in a group with an average drive of 150 yards playing from the tips. I know you’ve all fallen victim to this at some point. I’m not talking kids or Champions Tour guys. Guys my age that just can’t play golf.

Another week in the books..... Slowly....... 2 weeks in and we're down to only 3 unbeaten teams: @GolfSpy MPR @00sportsman and @GolfJunkie302 My opponent @Apolloshowl turned in the biggest score of the week with 202.5 so I can rest easy that all the points I left on the bench wouldn't have made a difference. @poprocksncoke earns the tough luck medal this week losing to @bardle by a mere 2 points. Both teams had very strong showings that would've beat the majority of the league. There's 5 winless teams in the league but the stars have aligned to match 4 of them against each other. This power block will be one to watch for week 3:

Thanks everyone for the responses. I spent much of the weekend reading shoe reviews and checking prices on multiple sites. I just ordered the Adidas Tour 360 Boost 2.0 after much debate. I was originally leaning toward the Ecco Biom Hybrid 3 GTX as mentioned earlier, but decided against them after hearing Adam's comments in the MGS 2018 Buyer's Guide for spikeless shoes (which I almost didn't watch). The buyers guide was very helpful as it opened my eyes to other aspects of the shoe I hadn't fully considered like stability. In the end, it came down to either the Adidas or a pair of Sketchers Go Golf Pro V.4 Honors. However, not knowing nearly enough about Sketchers' waterproofing technology or their warranty (which I couldn't seem to find on their site) and the fact that they were nearly $30 more I opted for the Adidas this time around. I did also send an email to TRUE about the toe box section and they felt confident I wouldn't feel too much movement, but ultimately I just wasn't willing to make the jump on those. To sum up the list of recommendations for anyone in the same boat: Adidas Tour 360 Boost 2.0 Ecco Biom series TRUE Linkswear Sketchers GoGolf Under Armor Spieth 2 Nike Lunar Control Vapor NOTE: If any of you are interested in a good deal, Carl's Golfland currently has their Demo Days sale going on with discounts on a wide range of items plus free shipping. Got an instant $10 off the Adidas. Total came to $118.99 - (discount + no tax + no shipping = WIN).

So as planned, I went and got the Club Glove large bag. I was originally going to get the Sun Mountain Meridian travel bag but apparently Sun Mountain is one of those brands exempt from discounts at GG. So with the savings in mind I went with the ClubGlove. Tested it out earlier today with my bag, Callaway ORG 14, and was VERY happy. Great fit and the sit pockets seemed to be just enough to add some extras. We’ll see what else I will stuff in there when it actually comes to traveling. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy

Morris and his wife Esther went to the state fair every year, and every year Morris would say, “Esther, I’d like to ride in that helicopter.” Esther always replied, “I know Morris, but that helicopter ride is fifty dollars, and fifty dollars is fifty dollars.” One year Esther and Morris went to the fair and Morris said, “Esther, I’m 85 years old. If I don’t ride that helicopter, I might not get another chance.” To this, Esther replied, “Morris that helicopter ride is fifty dollars and fifty dollars is fifty dollars.” The pilot overheard the couple and said, “Folks, I’ll make you a deal. I’ll take both of you for a ride. If you can stay quiet for the entire ride and not say a word, I won’t charge you! But if you say one word, it’s fifty dollars.” Morris and Esther agreed and up they went. The pilot did all kinds of fancy maneuvers, but not a word was heard. He did his daredevil tricks over and over again, but still not a word. When they landed, the pilot turned to Morris and said, “By golly, I did everything I could to get you to yell, but you didn’t. I’m impressed.” Morris replied, “Well, to tell you the truth, I almost said something when Esther fell out, but you know, fifty dollars is fifty dollars.”

So much this! it's meant to be our enjoyment, and if we let things out of our control such as weather, pace of play, even our own play dictate getting upset, then to me that defeats the purpose of playing. Do i wish I could shoot 75 each time out instead of 95 or 100....you bet. And while those high scores might not make me jump for joy, I haven't quit yet after shooting one. And I don't necessarily want to play a round in 2.5 hours. To me that's too fast and there's no way you can be enjoying the day, the weather and the company if you're racing around the course. If @MDGolfHacker is still around and see's this post, he can tell you about a round we played at Maryland National about 10 years ago with a Brit who walked on and joined us on the 10th tee. We had just finished a very nice front 9, with pretty good scores and enjoyed the pace. Well he was bound and determined to finish the back nine in about an hour, and while he was walking and we were in carts, it was all we could do to keep up with him, we were sprinting from the cart to our shots, and finally after about 3 holes, we told him to go ahead without us. So a round would have to be extremely long, like well over 5 hours for it to really bother me. If it's slow during the round, I use that time to chat with my playing partner, or just relax and enjoy the weather.

I too have used Q-Star Tours to try. Additionally, I will be testing Taylormade Project (a), some Snells (bought a mix) and Vice (bought a mix) all from the same LostGolfBalls order. Additionally, I'm pretty sure I still have 50 or so brand new Top Flite D2+ Feels to work through. If none of the above suit me, I'll go back to the 'ol standbys. They are Surlyn and don't spin a ton, but I can usually get them to stop pretty easily. Been playing these for at least a decade now. Can't beat the price ($10ish/15 balls delivered) when on sale, either.

Snell MTB Black. I have at least 4 dozen left form last year's order. This ball is very similar to the ProV1, and is $20 a dozen LESS if you buy in bulk. And honestly, switching from one very good golf ball to a different very good golf ball really isn't going to save me strokes. I'm happy with the performance of the Snell, and I know what to expect, I'm staying with it.

..for the front or back 9?

Had my first two good looks of the "season" at birdie on Friday in an 11 hole round. Missed both. Hit the ball decently for about 5 or 6 holes then seemed to lose my swing all together. But it was just nice to be out playing.

I wish they’d redo the pics online. They don’t give the real image of how they would look at address. They’re at an odd angle, and even look like the shaft is leaning forward. The only real way to see amounts of offset is to have the shaft vertical. Oh well. It would be cool to try them vs others in a fitting to get a sense head-to-head. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

I’m 62 been retired almost 9 years now. Was the coordinating supervisor in the water works industry for ever. They did a restructure and decided to oust a few of us oldtimers with the “golden handshake” because we made too much in salaries/ benefits and retirements. I was very lucky and blessed in how things worked out for me. Wife’s an acct at a fancy city that keeps us in a great medical insurance system, so again, lucky and blessed. now my life’s goal is to shoot my age someday somehow...

First hit on each, 50,54,58... multiple hits on one of them, last pic that’s not grass stain, it’s yellow ball blood i think they’re about 10 yards shorter thank the Vokeys, but shaft has gone from a stiff + to a regular. No track man numbers, but I would guess the spin on these are all in the 10k range. I think these will be beach blanket clubs. And so soft with these shafts too. They’ll be tearing the balls up for a while I think. Serious sharp. Hope to get up to the practice green tomorrow for some spin testing.

Lost by 2 strokes......s*** 46/45:91 today with an 8 on Par 4 #18 & an 8 on Par 3 #2....just lost it. Started on #18 so, after #2, everything else was good. Drove it to the bunker on #2 then could not get out. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy

Driver: Cobra F6 10.5* Stock Matrix Red Tie Regular 3W: Cobra F6 15* Stock Matrix Red Tie Regular 4-GW: Wilson C300 KBS Tour 90 Regular 54º: Maltby M-Series+ Mid Sole, KBS Hi Rev 2.0 Regular 60º: Maltby M-Series+ Wide Sole, KBS Hi Rev 2.0 Regular Putter: 33" TaylorMade Spider Tour Red Still searching for something between 3-wood and 4-iron.

I play two balls each year...a high-end spring/summer/fall golf ball which has been the TM TP5X and will stay that way for the near future. The new Srixon is great, but it didn't beat out the '18 TP5X so we'll see if there's any difference with the '19 TP5X. I play Snell MTB Black in the winter/dormant season. The Snell spins more than the TP5X which is great on dormant bermuda greens. However with all the rain Houston has gotten over the previous two years, I might be switching to a distance ball because you can stick a pinnacle on just about any green out here.

Me after declaring I will play only American made golf balls then seeing the new snells drop!

There's turtles on both ends of the handicap spectrum. A couple of the slowest players I know are legitimate +4/+5s. They qualify for USGA events and are some of the better golfers in the state but they simply refuse to play faster, or to even acknowledge the pace of other players. They go through their full routine for every shot and if a butterfly sneezes in an adjoining meadow they back up and do it all over again. They have it in their heads that it is part of being good but the reality is they're really good because they play really well, not because they take forever. Sent from my Pixel 3 using MyGolfSpy mobile app

6" of snow Saturday night. Looked at the radar and it looked to be over so I went to scoop the driveway. I had 2 shovel paths left and it started snowing again. Got another 2.5" and had to do it all over again! Mother Nature you suck! Sent from my Moto Z3 Play using MyGolfSpy mobile app

Like a lot of surveys it's difficult many times to complete. This one is no exception. But thanks John for starting a discussion and I hope my answers and short essay are useful to your task. 1. Slow play really isn't and issue with me or at my home course (private club) as most normal rounds are 4 hours. However, Fast Play is a problem for me. Or I should say playing with someone like yesterday that was in a mad dash to finish every hole as fast as possible. I felt like I had to rush around (like him) without any thought and hit a golf ball. To me that's worse than slow play. It's wasn't enjoyable. 2. Sure. Playing too slow is nagging when encountered. But I don't consider any given courses business health. I certainly have never given thought to quitting the game over a slow or a backed up round. 3. The causes of slow play are probably too numerous to list. While I can agree with the 5 choices presented; there are more. I'll suggest just one.... add just 2-3 additional minutes between tee times. 4. I've been a member at a club where there was never an issue with slow play. Many times there were 3 holes open in front. You could play very slow and leisurely or fast and never wait a shot. But to directly answer the question; I wouldn't pay more for a "guarantee" of 4 hour rounds. But I don't quite understand the premise. Does the entire club/course charge more (meaning to everyone) or am I given the option to pay more for my guarantee? What times are available for me to get my guarantee? What if I'm playing in the day game and it runs 4.15 minutes? Do I get a refund some some kind? 5. I don't know what golf courses think of slow play or how they define it. One man's slow play is another man's fast play. One extreme or another is nagging. I know this went too long and I apologize but... Yesterday I played at a local daily fee course with a couple and one other guy. Yes, I know 5-somes are slow by nature. Took us almost 4.75 hours. It was a nice afternoon and everyone that discovered a set of clubs in their garage came out it seemed. I play a reasonably controlled game; meaning I keep the ball in play and on my hole 90% of the time. Yesterday like most days I played the same ball from #1 through #18. The two other men in my game sprayed their drivers all over the place. In fact the guy I'll call Mr. Hurry lost a sleeve in the first 4 holes!! The lady played decent and down the middle all day. Mr. Hurry was aggravated all day at how slow "everyone" played. But it was partially due to him, and overcrowded course, and rank hackers. Honestly, It was kind of crazy out there as many people had no clue where there their balls were going and carts were criss-crossing into our fairways all day. I had to laugh actually. I pretty much witnessed everything that is wrong about golf in a single afternoon. From slow play to poor etiquette and everything in between. It was all there on display. But that's what I see and hear mostly at muni or daily fee courses. That IMO is what gives golf a bad slow play reputation. Oh, did I tell you about the guy that held us up while he played two shots from our fairway! (while we waited disgustingly) and then eventually came wheeling up and parked next to our the green with his Waylon Jennings blaring from a bluetooth speaker? Such an enjoyable afternoon.

We needed a fat guy after all the skinny people’s swings

I took the poll and my answers fell in line with everyone else except for question #2. I answered that it effects overall participation. However, it does also greatly impact my personal enjoyment of the game. I wish I could have selected both answers. When I find a rhythm on the golf course I prefer to stay there as that is where I'm likely to play my best golf. When my rhythm slows because of players in front, it tends to throw my game out of whack - not always, but frequent enough to be an issue. Also, while I wouldn't (always) call them idiots, my experiences demonstrate a clear lack of etiquette on the golf course. I've played as a single and I've played in groups that will get stuck behind someone who is 2 to 3 holes behind the group in front of them and still not permit me/us to play through. I've literally walked up to a tee box with players still on it and they would not let me play through. I'd like to address the notion that people don't turn down a round of golf due to time either because I've done that plenty (perhaps I'm just in the minority). I have a couple different groups I play with and have had to turn them down because I knew the round would take 5 hours or more based on the course they were playing and the tee time available. Instead, I went to a different course and played as a single or simply didn't play at all.

Oh No...

I would agree with this to a point. It is not killing the game because the ones playing are the ones that truly love golf. But it is killing the game because I think that it hurts from a growth standpoint. Golf is a big commitment IMO from financial to practice. I can tell you from a personal standpoint that there have been different times in my life that the time commitment has stopped me from playing. And I’m pretty much a die hard.

As someone who plays a lot of rounds alone and can rip through 18 nice and quick slow rounds can be a killer. There are certain courses where it's simply not worth going to despite the courses being great, when things get jammed up it's really tough to enjoy. I'm more then fine with playing a round that takes the full 4 hours or so when it's simply a steady day and the course is making sure everyone is playing at a adequate pace. It's when there is the one or two groups that hold everyone up and aren't allowing groups to pass through or they take ages on the green to line up a putt that they leave 12 feet short haha. I also understand when tournament rounds take longer because there is more on the line. It's the day to day rounds that are long and drawn out which are killer. Not only for the enjoyment, but typically the score as well.

I tend to agree that no one openly complains or wont play because of it, that being said, I also believe that is because its the norm now and its expected. Which is not necessarily the same as acknowledging that slow play is an issue. In my area for example, if you play on the weekends at a public course when its nice out, you are guaranteed a 5 hour round. As far as I can tell from people I play with its been that way for years. No one complains because its the standard and they are used to it, But I can guarantee if a 4some finished in 4 hours it would absolutely be talked about as some kind of an achievement.

2019 Srixon ZStar XV Tour Yellow. Already stocked up on 8 dozen with the buy 3 get 1 free deal they had going

Srixon Z Star for me. I’ve played Titleist Callaway Bridgestone and Vice, none of witch has knocked the Pro V out. So I’m going to start with Srixon Z stars and if they don’t perform, it’ll be back to Pro V. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy

I’m back and forth between Snell MTB black and Red. I’ve played Vice Pro + the past two years and really liked it but I’m going Snell and likely the new MTB-X Yellow. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy

I’m planning on testing 3 balls this year. 1. Pro V1 2. TP5 3. Wilson Duo Pro And maybe the BStone XS... and now that you mentioned it perhaps that Mizuno. Why? Well because I can. Need to have the logos scrubbed and do some blind testing. I’ve always fallen back to the PV1. As always my testing will start with the wedges and go from there. Need drop and stop, and a good soft feel.

Got a nice deal on 100 used Srixon Q-Star Tours on eBay ($65) a couple months back. Read reviews, and it should be a ball quite suited to my skill and game.

I’m a visual guy... Gotta see it. Thanks for the reply!!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Solid choice. It'll last you a long time.

Pictures can be tough to get right...they can always be deceiving in one way or another. The specifications section for each model states the exact offset amount.

Everything is being submitted...just a matter of the USGA getting around to testing and approving

I'm definitely giving the true originals a try this spring. I thought about holding off and maybe going for the new Majors, but after thinking it over the originals are probably a better bet for my first pair of trues.

My son at 12 had all four is his wisdom teeth pulled on Friday. Still in recovery from the procedure he asked me today if we could watch the Rocky movies. I can move the boy from Philly but not take Philly out of the boy. Testosterone is high in the house right now after watching 1-5 of the series. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy

41/43 at Mesa Del Sol... with an elephant ear on #11 (2 OB's off the tee). Lots of cool, blustery wind that seemingly came from all directions. I can relate to the players at Riviera today as I felt like I was adding windage to my putts yesterday.

The irons look to have a bit of offset... True, or angle of the shot? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

That hand doesn’t look old enough to hold a beer! Let’s see some ID! [emoji23] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

I would look at what the guys on Tour are wearing. Those guys make their living on their feet.

190. And the only had a stiff shaft to demo so I was swinging easy. Would love to see try it in an x one day

Just checked out the website. Those 699's look amazing! I was floored when I seen the price. Really looking forward to following along and reading my fellow spy's thought. Those wedges look clean too! Sent from my Moto Z3 Play using MyGolfSpy mobile app

Pulled the trigger on joining a club this week. First time around the track today was a 105 in the rain and mud. Love the course. Can't wait to see it in the summer.

Mizuno ST 190..... oh my.

Hear are some views from address. 3 iron 5 iron 60* wedge Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy

Skechers are the way to go. I have two pair that aren't water resistant or water proof, but if I need a pair of comfortable shoes, skechers are what I wear. They are miles ahead of anyone else, comfort wise. At least for me anyway.

True has a 30 day guarantee you should look at. Their shoes are incredibly comfortable to walk in. As well they perform like a great golf shoe should. Give em a try.