Haro 34 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Working on short putts and when I’m focused on specific part of the cup my aiming becomes more accurate. On flat putts I have a tendency to be left biases and will look at the entry or exit points on the left part of the cup My preference is to stroke at inside left edge with square/slightly open face (less than 2 degrees if possible) I’m gong to test this out with Laser and see if there is a SAM lab locally I can get tested 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cksurfdude 7,923 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 11:52 AM, Haro said: But for the break that runs away I have to see “two lines” one from the cup to the apex and another from the ball to apex and kind of join those two lines Sounds like you may be talking about what's called the "zero line" - if you stand at the cup with one foot on either side and turn until you're facing directly uphill, then that line is the "zero" break or straight uphill/downhill line. So yes on sidehill putts you're looking to put your ball into that line so it falls into the hole (or at least that's the theory that I've heard ). 1 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... ..Tour Edge Exotics EXS 3W/HL (17*) and EXS 7W (both Tensei CK Blue) ..Callaway Super Hybrid 23 (PX Catalyst) and Big Bertha 19 5H (Recoil ZTR) ..PXG 0211 6i-GW (Mitsubishi MMT) ..Cleveland CBX2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite) ..Evnroll ER5 (33", 385g, P2 Reflex Tour) ..all in a Datrek Hybrid bag on a Bag Boy Quad XL push cart. Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator Link to post Share on other sites
cksurfdude 7,923 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 6:53 PM, Chip Strokes said: and hopefully that carry number is somewhere in the 345-350 range. Yowzers! I was looking for the "shocked" emoji for the original post That's impressive distance - good luck!! Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... ..Tour Edge Exotics EXS 3W/HL (17*) and EXS 7W (both Tensei CK Blue) ..Callaway Super Hybrid 23 (PX Catalyst) and Big Bertha 19 5H (Recoil ZTR) ..PXG 0211 6i-GW (Mitsubishi MMT) ..Cleveland CBX2 54 and CBX 60 (both Rotex graphite) ..Evnroll ER5 (33", 385g, P2 Reflex Tour) ..all in a Datrek Hybrid bag on a Bag Boy Quad XL push cart. Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator Link to post Share on other sites
dhartmann34 1,765 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Spent some time with the planemate going through a couple of the protocols with the short band. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk 4 Quote Driver: G400 (8*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff Fairway: G400 (14.5*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff Irons: Crossover 3 iron (19*) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shaft AP3 (4/5) and AP2 (6-PW) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts Wedges: Scor 50*, 54*, and 58* with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts Putter: Pro Platinum Newport 2 Midslant Handicap: 3 Location: Illinois...until i can get my wife to move to a warmer climate Right Handed: Although sometimes I wonder if left handed would suit me better Link to post Share on other sites
Haro 34 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, cksurfdude said: Sounds like you may be talking about what's called the "zero line" - if you stand at the cup with one foot on either side and turn until you're facing directly uphill, then that line is the "zero" break or straight uphill/downhill line. So yes on sidehill putts you're looking to put your ball into that line so it falls into the hole (or at least that's the theory that I've heard ). I read it’s call the “fall line” too. For what ever reason I am not as comfortable with the right to left break. I walk a bit more to read my line and use more of a straight line aimpoint type strategy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
revkev 22,051 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I didn’t practice yesterday - through wedge and putter in the trunk to chip and putt after work before a meeting - it was sunny most of the day, clear skies at night, only a 20 percent chance of rain.Guess what it did from 4-5?So I used that time to review Rapsodo launch angle data. An observation popped out - while the distance and accuracy of my irons click at a certain launch angle my longest drives are always when I launch it high - over 15 degrees with 17 being the ideal. Interesting Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy 1 Quote Ping G410 - set at 12 degrees, fade setting - Fujikura Motore X R flex Ping G410 5-9 wood G30 6-PW - Aerotech FT 500 shafts SCOR 48,52,56,60 EVNRoll ER 5 Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them Link to post Share on other sites
cnosil 14,624 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Sounds like you may be talking about what's called the "zero line" - if you stand at the cup with one foot on either side and turn until you're facing directly uphill, then that line is the "zero" break or straight uphill/downhill line. So yes on sidehill putts you're looking to put your ball into that line so it falls into the hole (or at least that's the theory that I've heard ).I don’t think that is what@Haro is describing. The method you describe still has a single aimpoint that happens to be on the zero break or fall line. Unlike aimpoint the point you are aiming to is on that line. This is what Geoff magnum taught and was the method used in Vector Green Reading. Aimpoint users a point left or right of the hole that generally doesn’t like on the fall line. Subtle differences but different approaches. @Haro is indicating he wants to see curved lines and does on right to left putts. On left to right he has to visualize 2 straight lines; one that goes from ball to apex and one that goes from apex to hole. These are two different green reading approaches. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: Ten S Backups: 6330, ER2.2, Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to post Share on other sites
bens197 5,872 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Yesterday I took my 52 outside and hit some wedge shots. My physical therapist gave me some rotational drills and stretches to help get back to playing and it felt so good. Hoping to play 9 holes friday! 6 Quote PING G400 LST 8.5 Evenflow Black 65g 6.5 PING G 3W HZRDUS Yellow 75g 6.0 Mizuno HMB MP20 3i Nippon Modus 3 120S Ben Hogan PTx Combo Nippon Modus 3 120S Maltby TSW 52, 58 Nippon Modus Wedge Bettinardi BB8 Wide Oncore Elixr Rochester, NY 5.6 Index Link to post Share on other sites
PMookie 11,803 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Went to the range for the first time in awhile! I hit a large and small bucket, working on some drills my coach gave me last time. As usual, once I started getting tired, I started coming over-the-top with the right shoulder. Ugh. I was able to sit for a bit, get something to drink, and then regroup. I finished well, and cut down on swing thoughts. I’d like to hit one more bucket this week using just my wedges. I need to hit more greens with my approaches, and full wedges are hurting me the most. 4 Quote Driver: TR20 460, Ventus Black 70X Fwy: TS3, 15*, Veylix Rome 888 X Hybrid: X2 Hot Pro, 20*, Rombax 8D07HB TM27 X Irons: TR20 Tour P 4/5, Tour V 6-10, Dynamic Gold X100 Wedges: Vega VW-06 50*/54*/58*, Dynamic Gold S400 Putter: Platinum M5 HT Mallet, 36" Link to post Share on other sites
Shapotomous 1,087 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 13 hours ago, PMookie said: Went to the range for the first time in awhile! I hit a large and small bucket, working on some drills my coach gave me last time. As usual, once I started getting tired, I started coming over-the-top with the right shoulder. Ugh. I was able to sit for a bit, get something to drink, and then regroup. I finished well, and cut down on swing thoughts. I’d like to hit one more bucket this week using just my wedges. I need to hit more greens with my approaches, and full wedges are hurting me the most. I have always felt it is best to severely limit swing thoughts. Maybe have one set up thought and once that is done then only have one swing thought....then SWING! I see a lot of players hovering over the ball at address for what seems like an eternity and you can just about see the wheels turning as they go through 5 thoughts before they spasm into a movement merging all those things into what is supposed to be a swing. 4 Quote Modern Bag: Ping G410+ 9*, Accra TourZ X265 M5; Callaway Mavrik 16.5* 4W, EvenFlow Riptide 6.0 S 70g; Mizuno JPX 919 HMP 4i, PX LZ 6.0; Mizuno JPX 900 Forged 5 - PW, PX LZ 6.0; Cleveland Tour Action 49*, 53*, 57*; PX LZ 6.5 ; Ping Heppler Fetch; Ball - Snell MTB-X; Bag - Sun Mountain H2NO Classic Bag: Driver - Wilson Staff Persimmon; 3w - Hogan Speed Slot; 5w - Wilson Staff Tour Block; 3 - pw - Staff Dynapower; sw - Ram Tom Watson; putter - bullseye standard or flange. Link to post Share on other sites
cnosil 14,624 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Been re-reading the putting stroke information that my putting coach has sent me. Going to start get a fresh start and check my vision and setup; always good to periodically check the fundamentals. Since I have been focusing on speed recently I want to make sure I haven’t gotten to far away from having a good setup. 4 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: Ten S Backups: 6330, ER2.2, Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to post Share on other sites
russtopherb 5,787 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Haven't touched a club in a few weeks due to everything going on, so I shot over to the range at the local muni at lunchtime. Unfortunately it was mats only due to all the heavy rain we've had recently so I mostly worked on driver and hitting fairway woods off the deck. The driver's coming around to a better, straighter flight with what feels like a shorter backswing, just getting adjusted to it. My misses are all left lately which is definitely different for me. Also hit some way off the heel which makes me think I'm lunging at the ball again. Still, after a few weeks layoff I wasn't mad to see some decent ballflight off of the woods at all. 4 Quote In my carry bag: Big Bertha Mini (the D7 is in time out) GBB 3W (lofted to 4W) V-Series Heavenwood Baffler XL 5i-PW CBX 54* iWedge 58* #10 Twitter: @russtopherb Link to post Share on other sites
PMookie 11,803 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Got back to the range today and had a better go of it. Worked on getting the proper stance, then taking the club back more on plane, and drills for keeping the “butt on the wall”. Worked well. 4 Quote Driver: TR20 460, Ventus Black 70X Fwy: TS3, 15*, Veylix Rome 888 X Hybrid: X2 Hot Pro, 20*, Rombax 8D07HB TM27 X Irons: TR20 Tour P 4/5, Tour V 6-10, Dynamic Gold X100 Wedges: Vega VW-06 50*/54*/58*, Dynamic Gold S400 Putter: Platinum M5 HT Mallet, 36" Link to post Share on other sites
Kenny B 23,143 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 My wife went to play with the Ladies at another course in town today, so I went to our course to practice. I noticed right away that the practice green that had pins last weekend for the Men's Club tournament was empty of pins... Gone. That sucks! Went into the pro shop and got a bucket of balls; spent about 20 minutes pitching onto the pitching green with green success. Motion felt good; ball flew like I wanted. Then headed to the range. WTF?! The mats are out for the winter; earliest I remember them putting them out. I hit great shots off the mat and will until spring when they remove them; then back to fat shots!! 6 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to post Share on other sites
Chip Strokes 2,359 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 more driver work with my coach today. we’re getting closer to the numbers i should be seeing. the right equipment plus some changes to how i’m swinging the club have things moving in the right direction. tried a new driver today: TM Sim 8* set to 8.25 or 8.5, 43.5” Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited 70g Xflex i’m thinking of starting a thread about my “journey” to get myself a driver, because it’s come a long way in a short time. i’ll get it all consolidated if there’s any interest 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ejgaudette 888 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said: more driver work with my coach today. we’re getting closer to the numbers i should be seeing. the right equipment plus some changes to how i’m swinging the club have things moving in the right direction. tried a new driver today: TM Sim 8* set to 8.25 or 8.5, 43.5” Oban Kiyoshi Tour Limited 70g Xflex i’m thinking of starting a thread about my “journey” to get myself a driver, because it’s come a long way in a short time. i’ll get it all consolidated if there’s any interest Would love to hear about your driver journey even if your swing speed and fitting are in another planet from mine. Crazy your swing speed is 120 with a driver about 2 inches short of standard. 2 Quote Follow My Super Speed Progress Here Cobra Speedzone Extreme 9° Mitshubishi Tensei AV Blue 65 Stiff Flex '07 Burner 15° Reax 50 Stiff Flex 816 H1 18° Fujikura Speeder HB 8.8 Stiff Flex 816 H1 21° Mitsubishi Diamana S+ Blue 70 Stiff Flex I500 5 - UW Red Dot Dynamic Gold S300 CG16 56°/12 Stock Traction Steel Wedge Flex Tour Action 60° 2 Dot Stock Traction Steel Wedge Flex Karsten Series Anser Super Stroke Mid-Slim 2.0 Right Handed Link to post Share on other sites
Chip Strokes 2,359 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, ejgaudette said: Would love to hear about your driver journey even if your swing speed and fitting are in another planet from mine. Crazy your swing speed is 120 with a driver about 2 inches short of standard. thanks for the input! you can take this with a grain of salt, as i did, but in reality that’s 124/125. my coach says his monitor is due for a bit of a recalibration. one of the things we’ve worked on is establishing a “game speed” for me. right now that’s sitting in the low 120s. above that i lose control of the club face. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sirchunksalot 8,751 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 8:36 AM, Shapotomous said: I see a lot of players hovering over the ball at address for what seems like an eternity and you can just about see the wheels turning as they go through 5 thoughts before they spasm into a movement merging all those things into what is supposed to be a swing. You been spying on me? 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ejgaudette 888 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 59 minutes ago, Chip Strokes said: thanks for the input! you can take this with a grain of salt, as i did, but in reality that’s 124/125. my coach says his monitor is due for a bit of a recalibration. one of the things we’ve worked on is establishing a “game speed” for me. right now that’s sitting in the low 120s. above that i lose control of the club face. Makes sense not worth swinging that hard if you have no clue where it is going. Interesting to see what you end up with as your setup. 1 Quote Follow My Super Speed Progress Here Cobra Speedzone Extreme 9° Mitshubishi Tensei AV Blue 65 Stiff Flex '07 Burner 15° Reax 50 Stiff Flex 816 H1 18° Fujikura Speeder HB 8.8 Stiff Flex 816 H1 21° Mitsubishi Diamana S+ Blue 70 Stiff Flex I500 5 - UW Red Dot Dynamic Gold S300 CG16 56°/12 Stock Traction Steel Wedge Flex Tour Action 60° 2 Dot Stock Traction Steel Wedge Flex Karsten Series Anser Super Stroke Mid-Slim 2.0 Right Handed Link to post Share on other sites
Buffly 478 Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 OMG, I had a great time at the range! And, it was not at all what I expected. I had to cancel my range membership due to insufficient funds lately, but, a very gracious friend of mine let's me know when he is heading to the range and shares his bucket with me. Before all this, I always had my clubs in the car. But, now I am scraping by so, I was doing some caregiving work a town away when I got the notification from my friend to head to the range... The range is on the way home from my caregiving gig. I showed up without any of my clubs and, he offered to let me share his clubs. I know my clubs well and, I know his clubs were different in many ways but, it was sure fun trying to send a few orbs downrange with foreign equipment. I was able to dial in the driver, 7i, and Gap wedge pretty well. What really surprised me was the Cleveland 588 51° oil can finish wedge - I couldn't miss with it. ... I might be scouring used equipment for one soon. My friend is amazing and, I am very grateful to get a chance to hit a few balls with him. 4 Quote Golf is simple - people are complicated. 5w Taylormade SLDR S 19* - 220yd, Ping G2 5-U - 190-105, Maltby M+ 54* & MG 60* - 95-75, Evnroll ER8, Titleist 816 H1 4h 21*, Maltby 4 Hybrid Iron 24* - 210-200, Callaway XR16 8* - 235 carry Link to post Share on other sites
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