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Interesting. Are they tired of accurate/unbiased testing? We should just take their marketing claims at face value, I guess. 

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Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff

Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff

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Wow! Never thought I would see this from Callaway.

Maybe they got scared now that PXG is participating! #BOOM BABY! LOL

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I believe if I remember correctly and GSBarba can correct me if I'm wrong, but the reason for declining last year from what I read online from Harry was they felt the product needed to be fit to the actual tester to give it's true performance. 

Which on the surface sounds fine, but every other OEM that sends in drivers is doing so without it being fit.   They have a wide selection of shafts at MGS HQ and using club conex they are able to put just about any head on any shaft.  And most of the testers have been through enough testings to know what works best for them shaft wise.   

So as Vincent Gambini in My Cousin Vinny would say....The testimony doesn't hold water! 

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I was going to put the epic Sub zero in the bag for my upcoming golfing trip, but with this I think I may throw the ping g400 back in. 

Considering how many consumers don't get fit and buy off the rack I don't see how that argument holds true. 

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 They have a wide selection of shafts at MGS HQ and using club conex they are able to put just about any head on any shaft.


While they have shafts in the wall, the clubs don’t have the club conex system. Whatever shafts that are provided by the manufacturer are the one that we get fit to. Generally it is just different flexes that are provided. Also there are some clubs that have glued shafts.

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15 minutes ago, cnosil said:

 


While they have shafts in the wall, the clubs don’t have the club conex system. Whatever shafts that are provided by the manufacturer are the one that we get fit to. Generally it is just different flexes that are provided. Also there are some clubs that have glued shafts.

 

Oh gotcha!  Thanks for the correction! 

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How’s the saying go? If you are scared say you’re scared. 

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Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

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Won’t the team just buy the drivers anyway?


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2 minutes ago, revkev said:

Won’t the team just buy the drivers anyway?


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Yeah, I thinks it's just the protest of, "If you won't write glowing reviews of our product, then you have to buy it at full price."

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Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff

Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff

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Sounds like Callaway wants MGS to get more Donors!

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55 minutes ago, cnosil said:

 


While they have shafts in the wall, the clubs don’t have the club conex system. Whatever shafts that are provided by the manufacturer are the one that we get fit to. Generally it is just different flexes that are provided. Also there are some clubs that have glued shafts.

 

Every tester is fit with the option that gives him the most optimal results.  

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Interesting if the reason for Callaway not participating is 100% accurate. One would assume that Callaway therefore won't be selling any equipment without the purchaser first going through a fitting process. 

I'm certain that that will never happen, and that they are using an excuse rather than a reason  (just like me about my poor play😀)

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Wow this is like Ford saying to Consumer Reports you can't have one of our cars to evaluate. Bad decision on Callaway's part.


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3 hours ago, GolfSpy_X said:

Every tester is fit with the option that gives him the most optimal results.  

Yep.   For example during today's driver testing we went through several of the drivers to pick shafts and loft to try and optimize my launch conditions.  Didn't help me hit the center of the clubface but that isn't a club problem.

 

 

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I am interested in hitting more of these 2019 drivers as this seems to be the year of the driver.   All I can say is those of you that are interested in the Cobra F9,  it seems to be a the real deal.  Today i tested:  Bridgestone, Cobra, Wilson, and Cleveland.  For me they all performed about the same  regarding distance.  Interesting that during the fitting process we determined I needed to lower my launch angle to optimize,  but couldn't hit the center of the face enough to get consistent launch angle.  I was impressed with my swing speed to start the testing season.....average was in the 109 range;  that is up about 9 MPH from where I started last year.   Also tried the PXG,  it was sitting there and I couldn't just ignore the club,  it was asking to be hit.  I will be interested in what the number crunching comes up with as a recommendation.    Session 2 will be Thursday.  I don't know why,  but I am really excited about testing this year.   Putter selection looks nice as well; although,  I wish there was an Odyssey Stroke Lab or Toulon in the mix.   The equipment junkie in me wants to try that shaft; especially if I can see the results on the GC Quad.  

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42 minutes ago, cnosil said:

I am interested in hitting more of these 2019 drivers as this seems to be the year of the driver.   All I can say is those of you that are interested in the Cobra F9,  it seems to be a the real deal.  Today i tested:  Bridgestone, Cobra, Wilson, and Cleveland.  For me they all performed about the same  regarding distance.  Interesting that during the fitting process we determined I needed to lower my launch angle to optimize,  but couldn't hit the center of the face enough to get consistent launch angle.  I was impressed with my swing speed to start the testing season.....average was in the 109 range;  that is up about 9 MPH from where I started last year.   Also tried the PXG,  it was sitting there and I couldn't just ignore the club,  it was asking to be hit.  I will be interested in what the number crunching comes up with as a recommendation.    Session 2 will be Thursday.  I don't know why,  but I am really excited about testing this year.   Putter selection looks nice as well; although,  I wish there was an Odyssey Stroke Lab or Toulon in the mix.   The equipment junkie in me wants to try that shaft; especially if I can see the results on the GC Quad.  

Adding 9 mph in swing speed is big.  Did you do anything in particular to generate that?

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1 minute ago, 00sportsman said:

Adding 9 mph in swing speed is big.  Did you do anything in particular to generate that?

Lost about 15 pounds through some exercise and diet.  I think increased leg strength helped build a more solid base to let me generate some more speed.  Haven't played any more of less golf that last year at this time so it has to be the improved fitness.  

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Well, I’m down 16 lbs since nov. 11th now. Wondering if I’ll see some improvements like that soon. Fingers crossed!

 

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That’s too bad :(


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Unfortunately calling has been reading their own press and over the last 2 years imo have gotten a little to cocky and like string on the high horse and now don’t want to play. Imo with the success of the g400 line and seeing guys across the Internet swapping from rogue or epic to g400 because the numbers were better or on course performance in dispersion with epic and rogue weren’t consistent the staff at Callaway don’t want people to see that their latest edition isn’t anything significant in improvement with numbers especially this year with the number of drivers that are going to be as fast and as long.

i get it they have more to lose if the numbers don’t match their marketing claims and the story of a super computer and AI but if you are that confident the “put your money whet your mouth is”

 

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I just don't get the reasoning here. I know that Callaway is very protective of their image & brand conscious to the extreme, and I mean that as the highest of compliments. I don't think there's a golf OEM out there that does marketing & social media engagement like Callaway does. As a result, you think that there'd be initiative on their end to have more stories out there about the clubs. If the results don't fit the message, that's not the fault of the clubs or the testers - that's on the marketing. 

Bottom line, Callaway knows that MGS is going to buy the clubs anyways and test them, so why deal with the fallout of refusing to participate? I get that more and more OEMs are conscious about sending out too many clubs, seems like every other day there's a new blog or podcast that wants to do reviews, Twitter is filled with people begging for free gear, however MGS is recognized as being one of the best, if not the best, logo agnostic review sources around. 

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Maybe they just don't want to see that their "flash face" is just a flash in the pan...

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This is disappointing. I wonder if they will do their own testing. I saw something somewhere that Callaway was looking for testers.


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16 hours ago, revkev said:

Won’t the team just buy the drivers anyway?


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That's what I said on twitter. At the very least, if you supply the product, you have control over what you're sending, which shafts etc. Callaway has to know they will just buy the clubs anyway, that's what happened last year and every other year a major OEM has declined to participate. Seems silly to me, but golf OEM's consistently want to control the message reviewers send out, and MGS doesn't let you do that. Plus, they send clubs to guys like Rick Shiels and Mark Crossfield without them being custom fit, how is this different?

You would never see Ford not allow Car and Driver Magazine to test their cars unless they could guarantee good reviews and multiple gold medals for every model. The fact that golf is different is ridiculous to me. 

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2 hours ago, MattF said:

Maybe they just don't want to see that their "flash face" is just a flash in the pan...

Imo that’s the reasoning. Harry said last year in a tweet thread that anyone who does a fitting will see that their driver will come out on top. Well we’ve people get fit and have ping or Tm come out on top against epic and rogue.

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On 1/8/2019 at 2:06 PM, Golfspy_CG2 said:

I believe if I remember correctly and GSBarba can correct me if I'm wrong, but the reason for declining last year from what I read online from Harry was they felt the product needed to be fit to the actual tester to give it's true performance. 

Emphasis above is my own.

I know I'm not alone in this -- while my local golf shop does have a Trackman fitting option at an upcharge, I see most people come in, say they want to demo a certain club, be given a few (regular, stiff, etc.) and then they are left to their own devices to trial them on the driving range or simulators. They MIGHT get some insight from one of the salespeople, but beyond generalizations like, "Oh, you swing your driver X MPH, you need this stiffness of shaft," there's not much fitting going on.

This is one of the areas where I think MGS excels -- it is testing the standard configurations for products, which in reality are the configurations most will end up buying. Sure, some will get on Trackman and order a custom shaft that fits their swing, but most won't.

If we've gotten to the point that they only way to realize the improvements Callaway is promising is through a deeper fitting, then those improvements aren't really all that monumental. Which, since drivers are coming right up on the edge of legal limits and have been for a while anyway, isn't terribly surprising.

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2 hours ago, edingc said:

Emphasis above is my own.

I know I'm not alone in this -- while my local golf shop does have a Trackman fitting option at an upcharge, I see most people come in, say they want to demo a certain club, be given a few (regular, stiff, etc.) and then they are left to their own devices to trial them on the driving range or simulators. They MIGHT get some insight from one of the salespeople, but beyond generalizations like, "Oh, you swing your driver X MPH, you need this stiffness of shaft," there's not much fitting going on.

This is one of the areas where I think MGS excels -- it is testing the standard configurations for products, which in reality are the configurations most will end up buying. Sure, some will get on Trackman and order a custom shaft that fits their swing, but most won't.

If we've gotten to the point that they only way to realize the improvements Callaway is promising is through a deeper fitting, then those improvements aren't really all that monumental. Which, since drivers are coming right up on the edge of legal limits and have been for a while anyway, isn't terribly surprising.

Your experiences in your local shop are very reflective of the majority of purchases at most shops.   In the same twitter back and forth last year, Harry disputed that, despite many many people chiming in that the number of people coming into a shop and having the exact experience you outlined, far out weighed those that took the time and cost to be fit into any driver, not just a Callaway. 

I like Harry and he is very good at what he does, but I just don't see him having the actual experience of watching in store sales--or in our case in Pro Shop sales--that a lot of us do, to make such a claim.   

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One thing seems to be happening  for sure.. At this point in time, MGS is influencing more and more the differents segments and markets of the golf industry (ex. the Kirkland ball youtube mania). IMO the influence that MGS has obtain, has reach a critical mass that now seem to be directly influencing the control that golf companies have over there markets..

When you study business administration, the chapter about "Control" is some what important for sure.. Having this sector of there activities weakened , they probably will start to react even more as insecurity is starting to build up.. This is all for the goods I think at the end.. reaching a critical mass means moving and by the look of it presently it seem to be in the right direction.. 

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1 hour ago, Mpicurien said:

One thing seems to be happening  for sure.. At this point in time, MGS is influencing more and more the differents segments and markets of the golf industry (ex. the Kirkland ball youtube mania). IMO the influence that MGS has obtain, has reach a critical mass that now seem to be directly influencing the control that golf companies have over there markets..

When you study business administration, the chapter about "Control" is some what important for sure.. Having this sector of there activities weakened , they probably will start to react even more as insecurity is starting to build up.. This is all for the goods I think at the end.. reaching a critical mass means moving and by the look of it presently it seem to be in the right direction.. 

Very insightful post.  Thanks for chiming in. 

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