RSS Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I recently purchased the G425 Max 10.5 with Tensei Orange 55 shaft. It worked well against all the others in my fitting. The only downside was the distance being shorter than the TM, Callaway and Titleist. The consistency was the best however. Now that I have it on the course I am second guessing myself and wonder if a longer not as accurate driver is better for me? I am a high handicapper and need all I can get. Also other than a few Youtubers, the club has not been well liked. Appreciate your thoughts. Micah T 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Most of the time there’s going to be five and take between distance and dispersion when choosing a club. It comes down to how much one is willing to give up. If one driver is 5 yards shorter but the dispersion has balls staying in the fairway or barely missing while the other driver(s) have balls going into areas where a recovery shot is needed or not possible then sacrificing 5 yards isn’t that big of a deal. I personally don’t let opinions or reviews of clubs from people justify my decision to purchase a club or not. How much shorter in your fitting was the g425 Max compared to the others? How much better was the dispersion. If the club helps you play better is what matters. aerospace_ray, Tom D., Micah T and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSS Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share Posted March 17, 2021 Thanks about 10 yards shorter on average with roll and Ping dispersion was tighter groupings with TSI2 2nd. Thanks Micah T and tony@CIC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlow206 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 As a high handicapper, I look at dispersion from the perspective of balls acceptably in play vs. not. "Acceptably in play" is my own terminology for meaning would it put me in an acceptable place for a second shot that wouldn't have been OB, in the woods, etc. When testing my TSI2 vs my old SIM Max gamer, the difference i found was that I was more likely to miss big right that would lead to OB balls. The SIM Max was probably 5 yards longer, but wasn't worth the risk due to the more likely big right miss that would be OB. I have found the above from my test plays out on the course. SIM Max used to hit OB right occasionally. TSI2 I can still miss right, rarely big OB right ball. tony@CIC, Micah T, juspoole and 4 others 7 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 07/15/2022 Driver: Rogue St Max LS - Autoflex Fairway Woods: Rogue Max St 3HL and 7 Wood Irons: JPX 921 Hot Metal 5 to AW - Aerotech Steelfiber i95 Stiff parallel tip Wedges: Glide 4.0 54 and 58 Putter: PLD Custom Kushin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 44 minutes ago, RSS said: Thanks about 10 yards shorter on average with roll and Ping dispersion was tighter groupings with TSI2 2nd. Thanks In reality 10 yards with roll isn’t a lot. Roll is going to vary from hole to hole course to course and even shot to shot. Having a driver that has better dispersion and giving up that little bit of yardage isn’t really an issue IMO. Micah T, tehuti, russtopherb and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah T Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 I have the ping G410 LST: I hit it the shortest of all the clubs I tested against it, but it stays in the bag due to dispersion. I can hit a sim or epic flash 30 yards farther; but god himself doesn’t know where it’s going. 2 way misses were the norm and routinely had 4-6 penalty strokes a round from blasting balls into Narnia. My handicap is down 7 strokes since I put the ping in my bag. Game what you can keep in play, game whatever has a predictable miss. A strokes gained perspective has value, but don’t tumble too far down that rabbit hole: for me, 285 and in play beat 330 2/10 times with another 2 requiring a chip out from under trees and 6 OB bombs that had me hitting my 3rd still in the tee box.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Rickp, dlow206, RollingGreens and 5 others 7 1 Quote Driver - Cobra LtDxLS 3 Wood - Ping g410 LST 2iron - Titleist U505 Irons - Ping i59 Wedges - Vokey Sm9 Putter - Mizuno Mcraft IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pupini Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 3 hours ago, RSS said: Thanks about 10 yards shorter on average with roll and Ping dispersion was tighter groupings with TSI2 2nd. Thanks How many rounds have you played with it? I just bought the Ping 425LST because the Max gave me too much spin. I've always been long enough that I would gladly give up 10 yards for more accuracy, so it's more of a personal preference. Micah T, fixyurdivot and tony@CIC 3 Quote - Driver: 425LST w / KBS TD60 X-Stiff - 3-Wood: Callaway Rogue - Mkii ZX5 irons - 5-pw True Temper Dynamic Golf Tour Issue - Hybrid - 939X: with Proforce V2 Stiff - SM7 50* & 56* - ER10 Mallet - Pro Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSS Posted March 17, 2021 Author Share Posted March 17, 2021 Thanks all the commented. You have given me a better appreciation for the club. wwaldo and Micah T 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pouetvl Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, RSS said: Thanks all the commented. You have given me a better appreciation for the club. It should, on most test I've seen the ping come a little shorter than other brand, but again ping shaft is shorter which help in dispersion normally, I got myself a ping 410 SFT, should help me hit the fairway more often, I know it hit shorter but when I can find my ball after my drive its a bonus. In the end I save more on ball in a year that compensate for the driver anyway Edited March 18, 2021 by pouetvl Vegan_Golfer_PNW and tony@CIC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwaldo Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 I play the G400MAX which I bought when they were introduced. I was able to demo several (3) other 2018 new drivers and I actually liked all of them. All were longer than the Ping by around 5-12 yds however the Ping was consistently finding the fairway whereas the others were finding areas that added strokes. With the Ping for the last 3+ years, I have shot consistently in the mid to upper 70s, something I had never done in years past. I definitely plan on scheduling a fitting for the G425, either LST or MAX. Finding the fairway always beats 10 yards longer in the rough/woods. tony@CIC and fixyurdivot 2 Quote Ping G400 Max @ 9 degrees Ping G400 Stretch 3W Ping G400 3i Hybrid Cleveland 2009 launcher 4i Hybrid (also a 2i and 1i not currently in the bag) Ping G700 5-9, PW, GW, SW (Green Dot and 3/4" length addition) Ping Glide-3 60 Deg. LW (Green Dot) (also a Glide-2 58 deg LW and Glide 54 Deg SW not in the bag) All Golf Pride CP2 Wrap Midsize Grips Cleveland Huntington Beach Soft 11 Putter 35" w/oversize grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/17/2021 at 5:00 PM, RSS said: Thanks all the commented. You have given me a better appreciation for the club. You chose the club that works best for YOU. Don't forget, you led off by saying this: "I recently purchased the G425 Max 10.5 with Tensei Orange 55 shaft. It worked well against all the others in my fitting." You have a great driver and shaft setup...play well!!! Micah T and Blueberry_Squishie 2 Quote PING G400 LST Mitsubishi Tensei White 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03trdblack Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I was a little disappointed that the distance wasn't quite up there with the best of this year's drivers. In addition, the sound is just not pleasing at all and reminds me of the square driver era. Quote My bag is a revolving door! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSS Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 Thanks everyone for your help. Another idea?? What if I get a lighter back weight for the G425, would that get more speed for more distance and keep the solid MOI of the Ping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thin2win Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 hour ago, RSS said: Thanks everyone for your help. Another idea?? What if I get a lighter back weight for the G425, would that get more speed for more distance and keep the solid MOI of the Ping? Theory to practice on that one is always a question mark. A lighter weight could help you swing faster, but it is probably the weight of the Ping that makes it so accurate for you. I know over all the G425 Max didn't get love from most wanted here, but on other corners of the internet it was highly praised. And remember, most wanted just tells which club fits the most people, not which club fits you. Every club in most wanted probably has a subset that it is best for regardless of where it fell in overall testing. tony@CIC, Micah T, Vegan_Golfer_PNW and 5 others 8 Quote WITB: Driver: SIM2 Max 12° - Accra TZ6 M4 FW Wood: Gen5 0311 7w Fujikura Motore X F3 Irons: ZX7 PW-7i, ZX5 6i-5i Wedges: Zipcore 50°, 58° Putter: MySpider X Cart: Onewheel XR+ Ball: Z-Star Diamond/ Z-Star XV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 10 hours ago, RSS said: Thanks everyone for your help. Another idea?? What if I get a lighter back weight for the G425, would that get more speed for more distance and keep the solid MOI of the Ping? What was the carry distance for the all of the drivers you hit at your fitting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSS Posted March 20, 2021 Author Share Posted March 20, 2021 210 G425 carry 220ish for Speed and RAD. tony@CIC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 hour ago, RSS said: 210 G425 carry 220ish for Speed and RAD. Carry with your old driver (and type)? Stock or aftermarket shafts with 425 & Rad? Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 1 hour ago, RSS said: 210 G425 carry 220ish for Speed and RAD. On 3/17/2021 at 12:19 PM, RSS said: It worked well against all the others in my fitting. On 3/17/2021 at 12:19 PM, RSS said: The consistency was the best however. Going to use your statements from the OP. You picked and I’m assuming in conjunction with the fitter that the best driver for your game. Based on all the information during your fitting the g425 gave you the best of both worlds of playable distance and dispersion even tough you had to sacrifice give or take a club of distance. I use your statements because you said it was basically the best of all drivers but now that you are playing it appear as though ego might becoming into play in wanting more of the distance than the better overall performance. Nothing wrong with wanting more distance as we all would like that and would take it if someone gave it to us. I would imagine the fitter would have considered what changing the back weight would do could have done to the performance of the g425 that you are now pondering but he chose not to go that route more than likely because it would have negatively affected how the club works for you. If you swapped it out it might give you some express speed but it might not. It could even affect spin and dispersion that would then be worse for you and could even rob some of the distance you get. It really comes down to what you want. The best performing driver from your fitting or distance and to sacrifice overall performance. Personally I go with the overall performance and predictability of a club. Tom D., Grand Stranded, tony@CIC and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tom D. Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 On 3/17/2021 at 12:52 PM, Micah T said: I can hit a sim or epic flash 30 yards farther; but god himself doesn’t know where it’s going. 2 way misses were the norm and routinely had 4-6 penalty strokes a round from blasting balls into Narnia. Great prose there ! Gave me a good chuckle, thanks ! Rickp, tony@CIC and Micah T 2 1 Quote I'm decidedly brand agnostic -- but a bit less so with my recent change from a PING driver - TSi2 10.5 Driver - Tensei AV Raw Blue 55 R - TS2 4W - Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6 RS & TS2 7W - Alta CB 65 R - Baffler 23* - Aldila NV-HL 65 R - Original Series 0211 - 5-PW - MMT 80 S - CBX2 50 / 54 / 58 - Rotex - Directed Force 2.1 (Nickel) - KBS Tour - Press No. II 3* - MTB Black - DG Lite II cart bag attached via Top-Lok to - Quad XL and Tracked by - V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp0319 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 From what I have read the 425 Max just doesn't perform any better than the 410 Max so there may be a lot of Ping players that figure there is really no reason to buy the newest model (Myself included). On the accuracy front, personally, I'd always prefer to be in the fairway and short as opposed to in the rough or OB long... 1nflteam and tehuti 2 Quote G410 Plus Driver, Ping Tour 173-65 Regular G410 5 wood, Ping Tour 173-65 Regular G410 Crossover 3 Iron, Alta CB 70 Regular G410 Irons 4-LW Project X LZ 5.5 Phantom X 12 Pro V1x Yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, jp0319 said: From what I have read the 425 Max just doesn't perform any better than the 410 Max so there may be a lot of Ping players that figure there is really no reason to buy the newest model (Myself included). On the accuracy front, personally, I'd always prefer to be in the fairway and short as opposed to in the rough or OB long... A good many argue the G410 offered no improvement over the G400. PING is well known for being rather self limiting in the hype game. Their advertising shows small improvements in hitting data performance and I tend to believe it accurate. If only we could conduct controlled tests (and blind were that possible), with a couple hundred players across the range of skillset... tony@CIC 1 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp0319 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said: A good many argue the G410 offered no improvement over the G400. PING is well known for being rather self limiting in the hype game. Their advertising shows small improvements in hitting data performance and I tend to believe it accurate. If only we could conduct controlled tests (and blind were that possible), with a couple hundred players across the range of skillset... I agree, but usually Ping waits longer to come out with new versions for this reason. It surprised me when they came out with the 425 on the heels of the 410 because of the incremental improvement nature of their releases... fixyurdivot 1 Quote G410 Plus Driver, Ping Tour 173-65 Regular G410 5 wood, Ping Tour 173-65 Regular G410 Crossover 3 Iron, Alta CB 70 Regular G410 Irons 4-LW Project X LZ 5.5 Phantom X 12 Pro V1x Yellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM01 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Just now, jp0319 said: I agree, but usually Ping waits longer to come out with new versions for this reason. It surprised me when they came out with the 425 on the heels of the 410 because of the incremental improvement nature of their releases... Ping has an 18-24 month cycle that has been standard for a long time so the g;25 wasn’t on the heels of the 410 but in the normal product cycle release. They also redesigned the moveable weight in the g425 based on fitting information around the g410. In most driver releases from the various brands year to year releases don’t always yield what most consider significant improvements. tony@CIC, fixyurdivot, RollingGreens and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nateyeight Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I just switched from a GBB EPIC to a PING G425 Max and noticed a massive difference. I hit way more fairways and the difference between a good strike and a bad strike with the PING is minimal. The GBB EPIC though, majority of my bad strikes were OB. I am a high a high handicap player too, and hitting fairways are more important to me. Make sure you get a good hybrid you can flush, and that can make up any distance you may get with another driver on those longer holes. Vegan_Golfer_PNW, Micah T, wwaldo and 2 others 5 Quote Driver: G425 Max 10.5* 5 Wood: G425 Max 7 Wood: G425 Max Hybrid: TS2 23* Irons: 6 to GW, T300 Wedges: Vokey SM8 50F, 54S, 58K Putter: 1998 Tei3 Newport Long Neck Ball: Yellow Titleist VG3 Bag: Nike Air Hybrid Golf Bag I Love the Art of Putting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03trdblack Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Ping has to figure out how to fix the sound. How could they go so far backwards in sound from the g400 series?? I just can't listen to the G425 Max and there are a lot of driver companies making incredible drivers that have figured it out. dolleris, Tom D. and tony@CIC 3 Quote My bag is a revolving door! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolleris Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 13 hours ago, 03trdblack said: Ping has to figure out how to fix the sound. How could they go so far backwards in sound from the g400 series?? I just can't listen to the G425 Max and there are a lot of driver companies making incredible drivers that have figured it out. This - main reason for me returning mine. Also, it feels somewhat head-heavier compared to the 400 Max, I had previously 03trdblack 1 Quote My current bag: PING G400Max, G400 3 and 5 woods, G400 hybrid, Srixon Z565 5-PW, TM MG wedges, Yes! Tracy III+ putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah T Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 I just switched from a GBB EPIC to a PING G425 Max and noticed a massive difference. I hit way more fairways and the difference between a good strike and a bad strike with the PING is minimal. The GBB EPIC though, majority of my bad strikes were OB. I am a high a high handicap player too, and hitting fairways are more important to me. Make sure you get a good hybrid you can flush, and that can make up any distance you may get with another driver on those longer holes. Same for me with the epic; the bad shots were just incredibly bad. I switched to the 410+ , then the LST this year. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Nateyeight and tony@CIC 2 Quote Driver - Cobra LtDxLS 3 Wood - Ping g410 LST 2iron - Titleist U505 Irons - Ping i59 Wedges - Vokey Sm9 Putter - Mizuno Mcraft IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosox04 Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 We had a Ping fitting event at the course last Saturday. I compared my G400 Max vs the G425 Max. Both were very straight, and the 425 was slightly longer, and I mean 3-5 yards longer. Not enough of a difference to spend $500. tony@CIC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 It's different strokes for different folks always - I couldn't care less about the sound of anything - I played my best golf ever with a totally unexpected driver that I ended up being fit for - it was uglier than death and sounded worse - some iteration of Mizuno driver about 10 years ago. Looked like a pancake, sounded worse and hit the ball 245 down the middle of the fairway with a slight draw every single time. Never had to practice with it, just pulled it out of the bag on the 2nd tee (1 was always a hybrid for me then - pre every stroke counts) and off I went with it - played to a 1 or less for two seasons - then I gained weight, got sick and lost over 10 MPH in swing speed that I've been chasing ever since TruFit identified the 425 Max as the best driver for me this season - we shall see - I do think it's significant that the data from my current gamer - the 410 LST would have been in that mix. I would consider $500 for 5 functional yards because it would actually be less than that with my trade in - I'd keep the LST and trade the 410 Max that I have. Since the G30 Ping drivers have consistently been the best choice for my swing - that doesn't mean they are for everyone but whatever they do in design seems to work for the way I deliver the club to the ball. If it works I get used to the sound/feel. tony@CIC, bens197 and NM01 3 Quote Driver: Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 R flex - 44.25 Fairways: Ping G410 5, 7, 9 wood Alta CB red 65 R flex Hybrid: Ping G410 26 degree Alta CB Red 70 R flex Irons: Ping G430 7-PW, 45, 50 Alta CB black 65 soft R flex Wedges: Ping 195 S54, E58 Wedges and irons are - 1/2” and one degree flat Putter: Sacks Parente Duke 32.5” Ball: Titleist Pro VI or Callaway Chrome Soft X ls While not at the same time I was fit for every club in my bag as well as the Pro VI ball. I use the chrome soft x ls on my league course. It has much softer softer greens than the club that I belong to. I’m on a mission to shoot my age - lifetime lowest round is 66 and I’m currently 67. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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